Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Dan Penoff]

Kohler or Onan, but not the consumer grade stuff. If I was going to put in 
another standby system I would shop around for a decent used commercial system. 
There are lots of them out there with few hours on them as "take outs".

I had a 25kW Generac at my last house, but I got it through work as a take out 
from a very expensive (2.5M) home. Cost me $40 to get it running, courtesy of 
John, the Aussie guy with the MB shop. He could source the electrical part the 
engine needed that couldn't be found here in the States.

Dan

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On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:44 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> So, what is a decent home back-up power generator/transfer switch combo?
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> That's a Generac!
> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Mitch Haley]

OK Don wrote:

So, what is a decent home back-up power generator/transfer switch combo?


I don't know about best, but Briggs is cheap:
http://search.ebay.com/380671444551

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[OK Don]

So, what is a decent home back-up power generator/transfer switch combo?


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> That's a Generac!
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Dan Penoff]

That's a Generac!

Dan

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On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> OK Don wrote:
>> Cool. Let's see, $6000 for a used tractor + $1600 for the genhead = $7600
>> for a 17KW generator, but it will mow the grass as well.
> 
> But it won't turn itself on when there's a power failure.
> 
> OTOH, on one occasion my parents' Generac standby unit didn't either.
> Lightning took out their transformer, the generator fired up, and 30 seconds 
> later the transfer switch figured the generator hadn't stabilized yet, so it 
> waited for Hell to freeze over before engaging. The worst of both worlds, the 
> generator was burning propane but the lights and refrigerator weren't working.
> 
> I went out there in the storm, turned the generator off and back on, and the 
> transfer switch engaged properly. But it's made us leery ever since of 
> depending  on the thing to do its job when nobody is home.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Mitch Haley]

OK Don wrote:

Oops, I was off a few thousand - the tractor is $8000, but only has a 23HP
engine, and the 15KW genhead wants 30HP - might have to pass on this one.


So you only get 12kw out of it.
Are you talking about that 57 hour Kubota? That one seemed like a deal for 
anybody who was considering dropping five figures on a new one. But I'd check 
and see exactly what a new one would cost you first.


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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Mitch Haley]

OK Don wrote:

Cool. Let's see, $6000 for a used tractor + $1600 for the genhead = $7600
for a 17KW generator, but it will mow the grass as well.


But it won't turn itself on when there's a power failure.

OTOH, on one occasion my parents' Generac standby unit didn't either.
Lightning took out their transformer, the generator fired up, and 30 seconds 
later the transfer switch figured the generator hadn't stabilized yet, so it 
waited for Hell to freeze over before engaging. The worst of both worlds, the 
generator was burning propane but the lights and refrigerator weren't working.


I went out there in the storm, turned the generator off and back on, and the 
transfer switch engaged properly. But it's made us leery ever since of depending 
 on the thing to do its job when nobody is home.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[OK Don]

Oops, I was off a few thousand - the tractor is $8000, but only has a 23HP
engine, and the 15KW genhead wants 30HP - might have to pass on this one.


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:22 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> Cool. Let's see, $6000 for a used tractor + $1600 for the genhead = $7600
> for a 17KW generator, but it will mow the grass as well.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Allan Streib wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/16000-watts-max-15000-watts-rated-tractor-driven-pto-generator-65309.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> OK Don
> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
> "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
> - Benjamin Franklin 1789
> 2013 F150, 19 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>



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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[OK Don]

Cool. Let's see, $6000 for a used tractor + $1600 for the genhead = $7600
for a 17KW generator, but it will mow the grass as well.


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Allan Streib wrote:

>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/16000-watts-max-15000-watts-rated-tractor-driven-pto-generator-65309.html
>
>
>
>


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- Benjamin Franklin 1789
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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Allan Streib]

http://www.harborfreight.com/16000-watts-max-15000-watts-rated-tractor-driven-pto-generator-65309.html


Dan Penoff  writes:

> Yes. PTO driven generators, also known in the business as two bearing 
> generators, are available with both direct drive and gear reduction units. 
> Generac makes these as do a few other companies. They're not cheap nor easy 
> to find, as they were never made in large volumes.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 10, 2013, at 10:14 PM, OK Don  wrote:
>
>> This one looks to be a more serious machine, with a more serious price-
>> 
>> http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/for/3965663133.html
>> 
>> I wonder if the PTO could realistically be used to turn a back-up generator
>> for the house?
>> 
>> 
>> OK Don
>> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
>> "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
>> - Benjamin Franklin 1789
>> 2013 F150, 19 mpg
>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Dan Penoff]

Yes. PTO driven generators, also known in the business as two bearing 
generators, are available with both direct drive and gear reduction units. 
Generac makes these as do a few other companies. They're not cheap nor easy to 
find, as they were never made in large volumes.

Dan

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On Aug 10, 2013, at 10:14 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> This one looks to be a more serious machine, with a more serious price-
> 
> http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/for/3965663133.html
> 
> I wonder if the PTO could realistically be used to turn a back-up generator
> for the house?
> 
> 
> OK Don
> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
> "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
> - Benjamin Franklin 1789
> 2013 F150, 19 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Mitch Haley]

OK Don wrote:

This one looks to be a more serious machine, with a more serious price-

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/for/3965663133.html


Yes, a BX is a serious if small tractor.
A kubota G is a lawn tractor.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[OK Don]

This one looks to be a more serious machine, with a more serious price-

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/for/3965663133.html

I wonder if the PTO could realistically be used to turn a back-up generator
for the house?


OK Don
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
"in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[OK Don]

I think they are arbitrary, but the G4200 has a 424cc 2-cyl diesel engine
of 12hp, while the G5200 has a 599cc 3-cyl diesel of 14hp. It was available
with three different width mowing decks.
I wonder what is wrong with it - why is he selling it?


On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
>> http://tulsa.craigslist.org/**grd/3993341476.html
>>
>
> I've seen G3800 and G4200, but that's the first G5200 I've seen.
> Anybody know what the model numbers mean?
>
> Mitch.
>
>


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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Mitch Haley]

Curt Raymond wrote:

Thats awesome, if I were closer I'd snap it up.



http://maine.craigslist.org/grd/3980855147.html

http://maine.craigslist.org/grd/3954377343.html

http://nh.craigslist.org/grd/3957216822.html

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/grd/3964456671.html

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

http://tulsa.craigslist.org/grd/3993341476.html


I've seen G3800 and G4200, but that's the first G5200 I've seen.
Anybody know what the model numbers mean?

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Think I should buy it and sell my 3-4 year old mtd made mower?

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On Aug 10, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Thats awesome, if I were closer I'd snap it up.
> 
> I'm probably a month away from putting a 10HP diesel in my Cub Cadet plow 
> mule. It'll be an interesting project, should be a drop in replacement.
> 
> -Curt
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Curt Raymond]

Thats awesome, if I were closer I'd snap it up.

I'm probably a month away from putting a 10HP diesel in my Cub Cadet plow mule. 
It'll be an interesting project, should be a drop in replacement.

-Curt


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[MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://tulsa.craigslist.org/grd/3993341476.html


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