Re: [MBZ] Top Nigerian Scammer Arrested

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah, they speak better French.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The people from the former french colonies (N and W Africa) are quite
> different from the folks from former Brit colonies.  (east Africa)
>
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> August 2, 2016 at 10:17 AM
>>
>> Thats also a great story!
>> Some years ago I worked with a Nigerian guy, Alfred, here in the US. He
>> was a nice guy but always kind of odd. For instance at one point he came to
>> me wanting to buy a video camera. I figure Alfred wanted to do some work so
>> I showed him my camera but, he wanted something "cheap, but with really
>> good low light". Turns out he wanted to videotape the women he had sex with
>> "in case they accuse me of something." In another case Alfred's laptop "got
>> stolen" from the trunk of his car in Montreal. We all figured he got robbed
>> but never could get the story out of him.
>> He got laid off and a couple years later resurfaced in Nigeria, he
>> emailed me asking me to buy him a couple copies of Photoshop for which I
>> would be "richly rewarded". I couldn't believe he was trying that one me of
>> all people and politely declined. I've never heard from him again...
>> -Curt
>>
>> From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 10:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Top Nigerian Scammer Arrested
>>
>> That is a great Story!  It bears preserving for posterity!
>>
>> When I was on grad school, one of my friends was from CA, and another
>> from Zimbabwe.  At a conference in  LA, We decided to rent a car and
>> have Jim, the CA boy drive us around.  So we went to Venice beach and
>> some other places, then went to the fufu mall (i forget the name) in the
>> Hollywood/rodeo drive area.  Since the guy from Zimbabwe always walked
>> like he was a king, and spoke the Queen's english like a Windsor, (and
>> he was maybe 45+) we designated him to be, for the mall purposes, King
>> Onward of Mandebvu.  We became his entourage.  The schtick was that he
>> would look regal and say little or nothing, other than to order us
>> around, or to critique the merchandise, which we'd have to "interpret"
>> for the clerk.  So we'd walk into one of these fufu mall stores and the
>> King would look all snooty.  Jim or I would explain to the clerks that
>> this was King Onward and they should bow or curtsey.  It was quite
>> entertaining.  In fact it was the best entertainment of ANY trip I have
>> been on.
>>
>> After we left the mall we laughed so hard we could not stand.  The
>> "king" was about as low key as your guy, a professional University
>> Professor from before Zimbabwe melted down.
>>
>>
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>> Curley McLain <mailto:126die...@gmail.com>
>> August 1, 2016 at 9:34 PM
>>
>> That is a great Story!   It bears preserving for posterity!
>>
>> When I was on grad school, one of my friends was from CA, and another
>> from Zimbabwe.  At a conference in  LA, We decided to rent a car and have
>> Jim, the CA boy drive us around.  So we went to Venice beach and some other
>> places, then went to the fufu mall (i forget the name) in the
>> Hollywood/rodeo drive area.  Since the guy from Zimbabwe always walked like
>> he was a king, and spoke the Queen's english like a Windsor, (and he was
>> maybe 45+) we designated him to be, for the mall purposes, King Onward of
>> Mandebvu.  We became his entourage.   The schtick was that he would look
>> regal and say little or nothing, other than to order us around, or to
>> critique the merchandise, which we'd have to "interpret" for the clerk.  So
>> we'd walk into one of these fufu mall stores and the King would look all
>> snooty.  Jim or I would explain to the clerks th

Re: [MBZ] Top Nigerian Scammer Arrested

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The people from the former french colonies (N and W Africa) are quite 
different from the folks from former Brit colonies.  (east Africa)



Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
August 2, 2016 at 10:17 AM
Thats also a great story!
Some years ago I worked with a Nigerian guy, Alfred, here in the US. 
He was a nice guy but always kind of odd. For instance at one point he 
came to me wanting to buy a video camera. I figure Alfred wanted to do 
some work so I showed him my camera but, he wanted something "cheap, 
but with really good low light". Turns out he wanted to videotape the 
women he had sex with "in case they accuse me of something." In 
another case Alfred's laptop "got stolen" from the trunk of his car in 
Montreal. We all figured he got robbed but never could get the story 
out of him.
He got laid off and a couple years later resurfaced in Nigeria, he 
emailed me asking me to buy him a couple copies of Photoshop for which 
I would be "richly rewarded". I couldn't believe he was trying that 
one me of all people and politely declined. I've never heard from him 
again...

-Curt

From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Top Nigerian Scammer Arrested

That is a great Story!  It bears preserving for posterity!

When I was on grad school, one of my friends was from CA, and another
from Zimbabwe.  At a conference in  LA, We decided to rent a car and
have Jim, the CA boy drive us around.  So we went to Venice beach and
some other places, then went to the fufu mall (i forget the name) in the
Hollywood/rodeo drive area.  Since the guy from Zimbabwe always walked
like he was a king, and spoke the Queen's english like a Windsor, (and
he was maybe 45+) we designated him to be, for the mall purposes, King
Onward of Mandebvu.  We became his entourage.  The schtick was that he
would look regal and say little or nothing, other than to order us
around, or to critique the merchandise, which we'd have to "interpret"
for the clerk.  So we'd walk into one of these fufu mall stores and the
King would look all snooty.  Jim or I would explain to the clerks that
this was King Onward and they should bow or curtsey.  It was quite
entertaining.  In fact it was the best entertainment of ANY trip I have
been on.

After we left the mall we laughed so hard we could not stand.  The
"king" was about as low key as your guy, a professional University
Professor from before Zimbabwe melted down.


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Curley McLain <mailto:126die...@gmail.com>
August 1, 2016 at 9:34 PM
That is a great Story!   It bears preserving for posterity!

When I was on grad school, one of my friends was from CA, and another 
from Zimbabwe.  At a conference in  LA, We decided to rent a car and 
have Jim, the CA boy drive us around.  So we went to Venice beach and 
some other places, then went to the fufu mall (i forget the name) in 
the Hollywood/rodeo drive area.  Since the guy from Zimbabwe always 
walked like he was a king, and spoke the Queen's english like a 
Windsor, (and he was maybe 45+) we designated him to be, for the mall 
purposes, King Onward of Mandebvu.  We became his entourage.   The 
schtick was that he would look regal and say little or nothing, other 
than to order us around, or to critique the merchandise, which we'd 
have to "interpret" for the clerk.  So we'd walk into one of these 
fufu mall stores and the King would look all snooty.  Jim or I would 
explain to the clerks that this was King Onward and they should bow or 
curtsey.   It was quite entertaining.   In fact it was the best 
entertainment of ANY trip I have been on.


After we left the mall we laughed so hard we could not stand.   The 
"king" was about as low key as your guy, a professional University 
Professor from before Zimbabwe melted down.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
August 1, 2016 at 7:25 PM
Some years back the company I worked for, for reasons never 
particularly clear, decided that we needed to do some business in 
Africa.  I think it had something to do with the fact that the 
president/founder of the company, who was Indian by way of London, got 
wrangled into some trade delegation the state had organized to go to 
Africa for "business development."  There weren't a lot of b

Re: [MBZ] Top Nigerian Scammer Arrested

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thats also a great story!
Some years ago I worked with a Nigerian guy, Alfred, here in the US. He was a 
nice guy but always kind of odd. For instance at one point he came to me 
wanting to buy a video camera. I figure Alfred wanted to do some work so I 
showed him my camera but, he wanted something "cheap, but with really good low 
light". Turns out he wanted to videotape the women he had sex with "in case 
they accuse me of something." In another case Alfred's laptop "got stolen" from 
the trunk of his car in Montreal. We all figured he got robbed but never could 
get the story out of him.
He got laid off and a couple years later resurfaced in Nigeria, he emailed me 
asking me to buy him a couple copies of Photoshop for which I would be "richly 
rewarded". I couldn't believe he was trying that one me of all people and 
politely declined. I've never heard from him again...
-Curt

  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 10:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Top Nigerian Scammer Arrested
   
That is a great Story!  It bears preserving for posterity!

When I was on grad school, one of my friends was from CA, and another 
from Zimbabwe.  At a conference in  LA, We decided to rent a car and 
have Jim, the CA boy drive us around.  So we went to Venice beach and 
some other places, then went to the fufu mall (i forget the name) in the 
Hollywood/rodeo drive area.  Since the guy from Zimbabwe always walked 
like he was a king, and spoke the Queen's english like a Windsor, (and 
he was maybe 45+) we designated him to be, for the mall purposes, King 
Onward of Mandebvu.  We became his entourage.  The schtick was that he 
would look regal and say little or nothing, other than to order us 
around, or to critique the merchandise, which we'd have to "interpret" 
for the clerk.  So we'd walk into one of these fufu mall stores and the 
King would look all snooty.  Jim or I would explain to the clerks that 
this was King Onward and they should bow or curtsey.  It was quite 
entertaining.  In fact it was the best entertainment of ANY trip I have 
been on.

After we left the mall we laughed so hard we could not stand.  The 
"king" was about as low key as your guy, a professional University 
Professor from before Zimbabwe melted down.

> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> August 1, 2016 at 7:25 PM
> Some years back the company I worked for, for reasons never 
> particularly clear, decided that we needed to do some business in 
> Africa.  I think it had something to do with the fact that the 
> president/founder of the company, who was Indian by way of London, got 
> wrangled into some trade delegation the state had organized to go to 
> Africa for "business development."  There weren't a lot of black 
> company owners so they figured this guy would do.  Anyway, at some 
> point we ended up hiring this Malian guy, who was a really nice guy, 
> to be our consultant in trying to get bidness going somewhere in 
> Africa.  I thought this a complete waste of time and money, and it 
> ended up being so, but no one listened to me so off we went.  Since 
> our guy spoke French we concentrated on Cote d'Ivoire and Gabon, I 
> think we ended up with maybe $25k in bidness after spending at least 
> that much on travel and bribes, er, "consulting fees," and whatever.  
> I never went there but my boss did, and loved it.
>
> This Malian guy had been living in the US for some time, and pretty 
> much hated Africa, any part of Africa, because of the corruption, 
> violence, poverty, kleptocrats, etc.  He was very politic in his 
> expressions of his opinion, but he hated Africa in general, and 
> Nigeria in particular.  One day over lunch he told me this story of 
> the last time he had gone there, he had flown there from Bamako (his 
> family home) after a visit.  Some relative of his was a big shot 
> general in the Malian military, which was probably like being the 
> sergeant in charge of the motor pool in some medium-sized American 
> community, but whatever, this guy was connected.  So our guy bums a 
> general's uniform from him to go to Nigeria, with all the medals and 
> stars and gold stuff, and shoulder brushes, the big hat and all that 
> stuff.  He got some other guy to come with him, probably some other 
> cousin or something, dressed in a regular soldier's uniform, to be his 
> gofer and bag carrier, kinda completing the whole image.  No parrot on 
> his shoulder though.
>
> He gets to the airport there, and rather than the usual shakedown 
> given to other Africans, he starts yelling at the customs guys, the 
> guards, the airport staff, etc. in French as s

Re: [MBZ] Top Nigerian Scammer Arrested

[Peter Hertzing via Mercedes]

Does he need help with bail?  I'll await the email.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No parrot, but he had a hat/headress and a colorful cloth/sash over his 
> shoulder.
> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> August 2, 2016 at 8:40 AM
>> Did he have a parrot on his shoulder?  He cannot be King of Mandebvu without 
>> a parrot on his shoulder.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Curley McLain 
>> August 1, 2016 at 9:34 PM
>> That is a great Story!   It bears preserving for posterity!
>> 
>> When I was on grad school, one of my friends was from CA, and another from 
>> Zimbabwe.  At a conference in  LA, We decided to rent a car and have Jim, 
>> the CA boy drive us around.  So we went to Venice beach and some other 
>> places, then went to the fufu mall (i forget the name) in the 
>> Hollywood/rodeo drive area.  Since the guy from Zimbabwe always walked like 
>> he was a king, and spoke the Queen's english like a Windsor, (and he was 
>> maybe 45+) we designated him to be, for the mall purposes, King Onward of 
>> Mandebvu.  We became his entourage.   The schtick was that he would look 
>> regal and say little or nothing, other than to order us around, or to 
>> critique the merchandise, which we'd have to "interpret" for the clerk.  So 
>> we'd walk into one of these fufu mall stores and the King would look all 
>> snooty.  Jim or I would explain to the clerks that this was King Onward and 
>> they should bow or curtsey.   It was quite entertaining.   In fact it was 
>> the best entertainment of ANY trip I have been o
 n.
>> 
>> After we left the mall we laughed so hard we could not stand.   The "king" 
>> was about as low key as your guy, a professional University Professor from 
>> before Zimbabwe melted down.
>> 
>> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> August 1, 2016 at 7:25 PM
>> Some years back the company I worked for, for reasons never particularly 
>> clear, decided that we needed to do some business in Africa.  I think it had 
>> something to do with the fact that the president/founder of the company, who 
>> was Indian by way of London, got wrangled into some trade delegation the 
>> state had organized to go to Africa for "business development."  There 
>> weren't a lot of black company owners so they figured this guy would do.  
>> Anyway, at some point we ended up hiring this Malian guy, who was a really 
>> nice guy, to be our consultant in trying to get bidness going somewhere in 
>> Africa.  I thought this a complete waste of time and money, and it ended up 
>> being so, but no one listened to me so off we went.  Since our guy spoke 
>> French we concentrated on Cote d'Ivoire and Gabon, I think we ended up with 
>> maybe $25k in bidness after spending at least that much on travel and 
>> bribes, er, "consulting fees," and whatever.  I never went there but my boss 
>> did, and loved it.
>> 
>> This Malian guy had been living in the US for some time, and pretty much 
>> hated Africa, any part of Africa, because of the corruption, violence, 
>> poverty, kleptocrats, etc.  He was very politic in his expressions of his 
>> opinion, but he hated Africa in general, and Nigeria in particular.  One day 
>> over lunch he told me this story of the last time he had gone there, he had 
>> flown there from Bamako (his family home) after a visit.  Some relative of 
>> his was a big shot general in the Malian military, which was probably like 
>> being the sergeant in charge of the motor pool in some medium-sized American 
>> community, but whatever, this guy was connected.  So our guy bums a 
>> general's uniform from him to go to Nigeria, with all the medals and stars 
>> and gold stuff, and shoulder brushes, the big hat and all that stuff.  He 
>> got some other guy to come with him, probably some other cousin or 
>> something, dressed in a regular soldier's uniform, to be his gofer and bag 
>> carrier, kinda completing the whole im
 age.  No parrot on his shoulder though.
>> 
>> He gets to the airport there, and rather than the usual shakedown given to 
>> other Africans, he starts yelling at the customs guys, the guards, the 
>> airport staff, etc. in French as soon as he gets off the plane, waving his 
>> stick around, berating his gofer, walking along like he owns the place, the 
>> whole package.  He said it was great, no one gave him any trouble, no 
>> shakedowns, no "fees" and such, he got right through.  He had his client 
>> organize a big limo for him to go from the airport to the hotel, to look 
>> like a big shot too, and changed clothes in the car so he wouldn't draw any 
>> more attention once he cleared the airport.  This was all pretty funny as 
>> this guy was about as quiet and professional as someone could be, but in the 
>> act he was a tyrant.  He said it was a lot of fun.
>> 
>> He heard later from his big shot rel that the Nigerian military w

Re: [MBZ] Top Nigerian Scammer Arrested

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

No parrot, but he had a hat/headress and a colorful cloth/sash over his 
shoulder.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
August 2, 2016 at 8:40 AM
Did he have a parrot on his shoulder?  He cannot be King of Mandebvu 
without a parrot on his shoulder.


--FT




Curley McLain 
August 1, 2016 at 9:34 PM
That is a great Story!   It bears preserving for posterity!

When I was on grad school, one of my friends was from CA, and another 
from Zimbabwe.  At a conference in  LA, We decided to rent a car and 
have Jim, the CA boy drive us around.  So we went to Venice beach and 
some other places, then went to the fufu mall (i forget the name) in 
the Hollywood/rodeo drive area.  Since the guy from Zimbabwe always 
walked like he was a king, and spoke the Queen's english like a 
Windsor, (and he was maybe 45+) we designated him to be, for the mall 
purposes, King Onward of Mandebvu.  We became his entourage.   The 
schtick was that he would look regal and say little or nothing, other 
than to order us around, or to critique the merchandise, which we'd 
have to "interpret" for the clerk.  So we'd walk into one of these 
fufu mall stores and the King would look all snooty.  Jim or I would 
explain to the clerks that this was King Onward and they should bow or 
curtsey.   It was quite entertaining.   In fact it was the best 
entertainment of ANY trip I have been on.


After we left the mall we laughed so hard we could not stand.   The 
"king" was about as low key as your guy, a professional University 
Professor from before Zimbabwe melted down.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
August 1, 2016 at 7:25 PM
Some years back the company I worked for, for reasons never 
particularly clear, decided that we needed to do some business in 
Africa.  I think it had something to do with the fact that the 
president/founder of the company, who was Indian by way of London, got 
wrangled into some trade delegation the state had organized to go to 
Africa for "business development."  There weren't a lot of black 
company owners so they figured this guy would do.  Anyway, at some 
point we ended up hiring this Malian guy, who was a really nice guy, 
to be our consultant in trying to get bidness going somewhere in 
Africa.  I thought this a complete waste of time and money, and it 
ended up being so, but no one listened to me so off we went.  Since 
our guy spoke French we concentrated on Cote d'Ivoire and Gabon, I 
think we ended up with maybe $25k in bidness after spending at least 
that much on travel and bribes, er, "consulting fees," and whatever.  
I never went there but my boss did, and loved it.


This Malian guy had been living in the US for some time, and pretty 
much hated Africa, any part of Africa, because of the corruption, 
violence, poverty, kleptocrats, etc.  He was very politic in his 
expressions of his opinion, but he hated Africa in general, and 
Nigeria in particular.  One day over lunch he told me this story of 
the last time he had gone there, he had flown there from Bamako (his 
family home) after a visit.  Some relative of his was a big shot 
general in the Malian military, which was probably like being the 
sergeant in charge of the motor pool in some medium-sized American 
community, but whatever, this guy was connected.  So our guy bums a 
general's uniform from him to go to Nigeria, with all the medals and 
stars and gold stuff, and shoulder brushes, the big hat and all that 
stuff.  He got some other guy to come with him, probably some other 
cousin or something, dressed in a regular soldier's uniform, to be his 
gofer and bag carrier, kinda completing the whole image.  No parrot on 
his shoulder though.


He gets to the airport there, and rather than the usual shakedown 
given to other Africans, he starts yelling at the customs guys, the 
guards, the airport staff, etc. in French as soon as he gets off the 
plane, waving his stick around, berating his gofer, walking along like 
he owns the place, the whole package.  He said it was great, no one 
gave him any trouble, no shakedowns, no "fees" and such, he got right 
through.  He had his client organize a big limo for him to go from the 
airport to the hotel, to look like a big shot too, and changed clothes 
in the car so he wouldn't draw any more attention once he cleared the 
airport.  This was all pretty funny as this guy was about as quiet and 
professional as someone could be, but in the act he was a tyrant.  He 
said it was a lot of fun.


He heard later from his big shot rel that the Nigerian military were 
all bent that they didn't know this distinguished visitor was coming, 
and had been calling the Malian military to find out who the hell he 
was, what he was doing there, and why he never surfaced.  They all 
thought the whole deal was pretty funny as they hated the Nigerians too.


--FT




G Mann via Mercedes 
August 1, 2016 at 6:28 PM
Comp

Re: [MBZ] Top Nigerian Scammer Arrested

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Did he have a parrot on his shoulder?  He cannot be King of Mandebvu 
without a parrot on his shoulder.


--FT


On 8/1/16 10:34 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

That is a great Story!   It bears preserving for posterity!

When I was on grad school, one of my friends was from CA, and another 
from Zimbabwe.  At a conference in  LA, We decided to rent a car and 
have Jim, the CA boy drive us around.  So we went to Venice beach and 
some other places, then went to the fufu mall (i forget the name) in 
the Hollywood/rodeo drive area.  Since the guy from Zimbabwe always 
walked like he was a king, and spoke the Queen's english like a 
Windsor, (and he was maybe 45+) we designated him to be, for the mall 
purposes, King Onward of Mandebvu.  We became his entourage.   The 
schtick was that he would look regal and say little or nothing, other 
than to order us around, or to critique the merchandise, which we'd 
have to "interpret" for the clerk.  So we'd walk into one of these 
fufu mall stores and the King would look all snooty.  Jim or I would 
explain to the clerks that this was King Onward and they should bow or 
curtsey.   It was quite entertaining.   In fact it was the best 
entertainment of ANY trip I have been on.


After we left the mall we laughed so hard we could not stand. The 
"king" was about as low key as your guy, a professional University 
Professor from before Zimbabwe melted down.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
August 1, 2016 at 7:25 PM
Some years back the company I worked for, for reasons never 
particularly clear, decided that we needed to do some business in 
Africa.  I think it had something to do with the fact that the 
president/founder of the company, who was Indian by way of London, 
got wrangled into some trade delegation the state had organized to go 
to Africa for "business development."  There weren't a lot of black 
company owners so they figured this guy would do.  Anyway, at some 
point we ended up hiring this Malian guy, who was a really nice guy, 
to be our consultant in trying to get bidness going somewhere in 
Africa.  I thought this a complete waste of time and money, and it 
ended up being so, but no one listened to me so off we went.  Since 
our guy spoke French we concentrated on Cote d'Ivoire and Gabon, I 
think we ended up with maybe $25k in bidness after spending at least 
that much on travel and bribes, er, "consulting fees," and whatever. 
I never went there but my boss did, and loved it.


This Malian guy had been living in the US for some time, and pretty 
much hated Africa, any part of Africa, because of the corruption, 
violence, poverty, kleptocrats, etc.  He was very politic in his 
expressions of his opinion, but he hated Africa in general, and 
Nigeria in particular.  One day over lunch he told me this story of 
the last time he had gone there, he had flown there from Bamako (his 
family home) after a visit.  Some relative of his was a big shot 
general in the Malian military, which was probably like being the 
sergeant in charge of the motor pool in some medium-sized American 
community, but whatever, this guy was connected.  So our guy bums a 
general's uniform from him to go to Nigeria, with all the medals and 
stars and gold stuff, and shoulder brushes, the big hat and all that 
stuff.  He got some other guy to come with him, probably some other 
cousin or something, dressed in a regular soldier's uniform, to be 
his gofer and bag carrier, kinda completing the whole image.  No 
parrot on his shoulder though.


He gets to the airport there, and rather than the usual shakedown 
given to other Africans, he starts yelling at the customs guys, the 
guards, the airport staff, etc. in French as soon as he gets off the 
plane, waving his stick around, berating his gofer, walking along 
like he owns the place, the whole package.  He said it was great, no 
one gave him any trouble, no shakedowns, no "fees" and such, he got 
right through.  He had his client organize a big limo for him to go 
from the airport to the hotel, to look like a big shot too, and 
changed clothes in the car so he wouldn't draw any more attention 
once he cleared the airport.  This was all pretty funny as this guy 
was about as quiet and professional as someone could be, but in the 
act he was a tyrant.  He said it was a lot of fun.


He heard later from his big shot rel that the Nigerian military were 
all bent that they didn't know this distinguished visitor was coming, 
and had been calling the Malian military to find out who the hell he 
was, what he was doing there, and why he never surfaced.  They all 
thought the whole deal was pretty funny as they hated the Nigerians too.


--FT




G Mann via Mercedes 
August 1, 2016 at 6:28 PM
Compared to Nigeria and Africa in general... USA politicians are rank
amateurs.

When I was in Nigeria last [3 yrs ago] the price for having someone 
killed
with a machete was $20.00 cash... if

Re: [MBZ] Top Nigerian Scammer Arrested

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Grant wrote:
> We are so civilized we can't imagine such things happening.

Yeah.  Civilized.  We have better ways to do massacre.  Vince Foster.
Sandy Hook.  Extremist Muslim Terrorists.  Iran Contra.  911  Orlando
nightclub.  Ruby Ridge.  Oklahoma City.  Sooo civilized.  Or, just
hire Africa.
mao

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That is a great Story!   It bears preserving for posterity!

When I was on grad school, one of my friends was from CA, and another 
from Zimbabwe.  At a conference in  LA, We decided to rent a car and 
have Jim, the CA boy drive us around.  So we went to Venice beach and 
some other places, then went to the fufu mall (i forget the name) in the 
Hollywood/rodeo drive area.  Since the guy from Zimbabwe always walked 
like he was a king, and spoke the Queen's english like a Windsor, (and 
he was maybe 45+) we designated him to be, for the mall purposes, King 
Onward of Mandebvu.  We became his entourage.   The schtick was that he 
would look regal and say little or nothing, other than to order us 
around, or to critique the merchandise, which we'd have to "interpret" 
for the clerk.  So we'd walk into one of these fufu mall stores and the 
King would look all snooty.  Jim or I would explain to the clerks that 
this was King Onward and they should bow or curtsey.   It was quite 
entertaining.   In fact it was the best entertainment of ANY trip I have 
been on.


After we left the mall we laughed so hard we could not stand.   The 
"king" was about as low key as your guy, a professional University 
Professor from before Zimbabwe melted down.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
August 1, 2016 at 7:25 PM
Some years back the company I worked for, for reasons never 
particularly clear, decided that we needed to do some business in 
Africa.  I think it had something to do with the fact that the 
president/founder of the company, who was Indian by way of London, got 
wrangled into some trade delegation the state had organized to go to 
Africa for "business development."  There weren't a lot of black 
company owners so they figured this guy would do.  Anyway, at some 
point we ended up hiring this Malian guy, who was a really nice guy, 
to be our consultant in trying to get bidness going somewhere in 
Africa.  I thought this a complete waste of time and money, and it 
ended up being so, but no one listened to me so off we went.  Since 
our guy spoke French we concentrated on Cote d'Ivoire and Gabon, I 
think we ended up with maybe $25k in bidness after spending at least 
that much on travel and bribes, er, "consulting fees," and whatever.  
I never went there but my boss did, and loved it.


This Malian guy had been living in the US for some time, and pretty 
much hated Africa, any part of Africa, because of the corruption, 
violence, poverty, kleptocrats, etc.  He was very politic in his 
expressions of his opinion, but he hated Africa in general, and 
Nigeria in particular.  One day over lunch he told me this story of 
the last time he had gone there, he had flown there from Bamako (his 
family home) after a visit.  Some relative of his was a big shot 
general in the Malian military, which was probably like being the 
sergeant in charge of the motor pool in some medium-sized American 
community, but whatever, this guy was connected.  So our guy bums a 
general's uniform from him to go to Nigeria, with all the medals and 
stars and gold stuff, and shoulder brushes, the big hat and all that 
stuff.  He got some other guy to come with him, probably some other 
cousin or something, dressed in a regular soldier's uniform, to be his 
gofer and bag carrier, kinda completing the whole image.  No parrot on 
his shoulder though.


He gets to the airport there, and rather than the usual shakedown 
given to other Africans, he starts yelling at the customs guys, the 
guards, the airport staff, etc. in French as soon as he gets off the 
plane, waving his stick around, berating his gofer, walking along like 
he owns the place, the whole package.  He said it was great, no one 
gave him any trouble, no shakedowns, no "fees" and such, he got right 
through.  He had his client organize a big limo for him to go from the 
airport to the hotel, to look like a big shot too, and changed clothes 
in the car so he wouldn't draw any more attention once he cleared the 
airport.  This was all pretty funny as this guy was about as quiet and 
professional as someone could be, but in the act he was a tyrant.  He 
said it was a lot of fun.


He heard later from his big shot rel that the Nigerian military were 
all bent that they didn't know this distinguished visitor was coming, 
and had been calling the Malian military to find out who the hell he 
was, what he was doing there, and why he never surfaced.  They all 
thought the whole deal was pretty funny as they hated the Nigerians too.


--FT




G Mann via Mercedes 
August 1, 2016 at 6:28 PM
Compared to Nigeria and Africa in general... USA politicians are rank
amateurs.

When I was in Nigeria last [3 yrs ago] the price for having someone killed
with a machete was $20.00 cash... if you wanted them shot, you had to buy
the gun and the killer got to keep it, so cost was higher... maybe
$150.00. Or, at your option, you could have the "offending p

Re: [MBZ] Top Nigerian Scammer Arrested

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That's pretty funny, I can just see it in my mind's eye.  Probably only a 
"one-time-use" option...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 1, 2016 8:25:30 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Some years back the company I worked for, for reasons never
>particularly 
>clear, decided that we needed to do some business in Africa. 

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Re: [MBZ] Top Nigerian Scammer Arrested

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Some years back the company I worked for, for reasons never particularly 
clear, decided that we needed to do some business in Africa.  I think it 
had something to do with the fact that the president/founder of the 
company, who was Indian by way of London, got wrangled into some trade 
delegation the state had organized to go to Africa for "business 
development."  There weren't a lot of black company owners so they 
figured this guy would do.  Anyway, at some point we ended up hiring 
this Malian guy, who was a really nice guy, to be our consultant in 
trying to get bidness going somewhere in Africa.  I thought this a 
complete waste of time and money, and it ended up being so, but no one 
listened to me so off we went.  Since our guy spoke French we 
concentrated on Cote d'Ivoire and Gabon, I think we ended up with maybe 
$25k in bidness after spending at least that much on travel and bribes, 
er, "consulting fees," and whatever.  I never went there but my boss 
did, and loved it.


This Malian guy had been living in the US for some time, and pretty much 
hated Africa, any part of Africa, because of the corruption, violence, 
poverty, kleptocrats, etc.  He was very politic in his expressions of 
his opinion, but he hated Africa in general, and Nigeria in particular.  
One day over lunch he told me this story of the last time he had gone 
there, he had flown there from Bamako (his family home) after a visit.  
Some relative of his was a big shot general in the Malian military, 
which was probably like being the sergeant in charge of the motor pool 
in some medium-sized American community, but whatever, this guy was 
connected.  So our guy bums a general's uniform from him to go to 
Nigeria, with all the medals and stars and gold stuff, and shoulder 
brushes, the big hat and all that stuff.  He got some other guy to come 
with him, probably some other cousin or something, dressed in a regular 
soldier's uniform, to be his gofer and bag carrier, kinda completing the 
whole image.  No parrot on his shoulder though.


He gets to the airport there, and rather than the usual shakedown given 
to other Africans, he starts yelling at the customs guys, the guards, 
the airport staff, etc. in French as soon as he gets off the plane, 
waving his stick around, berating his gofer, walking along like he owns 
the place, the whole package.  He said it was great, no one gave him any 
trouble, no shakedowns, no "fees" and such, he got right through.  He 
had his client organize a big limo for him to go from the airport to the 
hotel, to look like a big shot too, and changed clothes in the car so he 
wouldn't draw any more attention once he cleared the airport.  This was 
all pretty funny as this guy was about as quiet and professional as 
someone could be, but in the act he was a tyrant.  He said it was a lot 
of fun.


He heard later from his big shot rel that the Nigerian military were all 
bent that they didn't know this distinguished visitor was coming, and 
had been calling the Malian military to find out who the hell he was, 
what he was doing there, and why he never surfaced.  They all thought 
the whole deal was pretty funny as they hated the Nigerians too.


--FT


On 8/1/16 7:28 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Compared to Nigeria and Africa in general... USA politicians are rank
amateurs.

When I was in Nigeria last [3 yrs ago] the price for having someone killed
with a machete was $20.00 cash... if you wanted them shot, you had to buy
the gun and the killer got to keep it, so cost was higher... maybe
$150.00.  Or, at your option, you could have the "offending party" captured
and sold into slavery, never to be seen again. The slaver takes a double
fee, one from you, one when the "slave" is sold.

Anyone in office had their hand out, or an assistant pushing a wheelbarrow
to carry the bribe demanded. with armed guards.

We are so civilized we can't imagine such things happening.

Mercedes are however very popular with elected officials there, armored
versions in particular.



On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Grant wrote:

Africa: The mother of all fraud, the center of public official

corruption.

Oh.
So... they are the people running our election process fiasco?
mao

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[G Mann via Mercedes]

Compared to Nigeria and Africa in general... USA politicians are rank
amateurs.

When I was in Nigeria last [3 yrs ago] the price for having someone killed
with a machete was $20.00 cash... if you wanted them shot, you had to buy
the gun and the killer got to keep it, so cost was higher... maybe
$150.00.  Or, at your option, you could have the "offending party" captured
and sold into slavery, never to be seen again. The slaver takes a double
fee, one from you, one when the "slave" is sold.

Anyone in office had their hand out, or an assistant pushing a wheelbarrow
to carry the bribe demanded. with armed guards.

We are so civilized we can't imagine such things happening.

Mercedes are however very popular with elected officials there, armored
versions in particular.



On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Grant wrote:
> > Africa: The mother of all fraud, the center of public official
> corruption.
>
> Oh.
> So... they are the people running our election process fiasco?
> mao
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[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Grant wrote:
> Africa: The mother of all fraud, the center of public official corruption.

Oh.
So... they are the people running our election process fiasco?
mao

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[G Mann via Mercedes]

Ohhh Noo Does this mean the $20,000,000 inheritance that is held by the
princess dying of cancer will never be released?

"Released on Bail" in Nigeria.

Translation: Time to become invisible for life and never be found again..

Africa: The mother of all fraud, the center of public official corruption.



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