Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
I think its electrical as when you press the pedal the brake lights come one - in fact perhaps they don't come on and that's the whole problem PEter -Original Message- From: R A Bennell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2007 17:41 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? Not if it continues when the vehicle is stopped. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:35 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
Its all tight Tom. I am tending to believe is gearbox related. When declutching while resonance is active is goes away. PEter -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2007 05:57 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? It's vibrating when you apply the pedal and still doing it when the car's not moving? I would have guessed a colapsed motor mount the reverse torque on the engine that's being applied while your foot is off the accelerator was causing the metal parts to meet caused the vibration. But you repleced the mounts. Any chance that the 2 small screws that hold the mounts to the sub-frame are not properly tightened? Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I thought that, but it is persistent while stopped, not just at engagement. I have new engine transmission mounts which cured the previous shakes. There is some rattle transmitted to the dash and steering wheel clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 20:35, Tom Hargrave wrote: Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
I suspect the input shaft bearing. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Merle Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? Its all tight Tom. I am tending to believe is gearbox related. When declutching while resonance is active is goes away. PEter -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2007 05:57 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? It's vibrating when you apply the pedal and still doing it when the car's not moving? I would have guessed a colapsed motor mount the reverse torque on the engine that's being applied while your foot is off the accelerator was causing the metal parts to meet caused the vibration. But you repleced the mounts. Any chance that the 2 small screws that hold the mounts to the sub-frame are not properly tightened? Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I thought that, but it is persistent while stopped, not just at engagement. I have new engine transmission mounts which cured the previous shakes. There is some rattle transmitted to the dash and steering wheel clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 20:35, Tom Hargrave wrote: Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
IS this 5 speed box similar to older the 4 speed box's from the 114/115 and 123 series ? IS removal similar to W123 procedure? PEter -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2007 09:05 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? I suspect the input shaft bearing. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Merle Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? Its all tight Tom. I am tending to believe is gearbox related. When declutching while resonance is active is goes away. PEter -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2007 05:57 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? It's vibrating when you apply the pedal and still doing it when the car's not moving? I would have guessed a colapsed motor mount the reverse torque on the engine that's being applied while your foot is off the accelerator was causing the metal parts to meet caused the vibration. But you repleced the mounts. Any chance that the 2 small screws that hold the mounts to the sub-frame are not properly tightened? Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I thought that, but it is persistent while stopped, not just at engagement. I have new engine transmission mounts which cured the previous shakes. There is some rattle transmitted to the dash and steering wheel clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 20:35, Tom Hargrave wrote: Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
Not if it continues when the vehicle is stopped. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:35 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
I thought that, but it is persistent while stopped, not just at engagement. I have new engine transmission mounts which cured the previous shakes. There is some rattle transmitted to the dash and steering wheel clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 20:35, Tom Hargrave wrote: Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
It's vibrating when you apply the pedal and still doing it when the car's not moving? I would have guessed a colapsed motor mount the reverse torque on the engine that's being applied while your foot is off the accelerator was causing the metal parts to meet caused the vibration. But you repleced the mounts. Any chance that the 2 small screws that hold the mounts to the sub-frame are not properly tightened? Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I thought that, but it is persistent while stopped, not just at engagement. I have new engine transmission mounts which cured the previous shakes. There is some rattle transmitted to the dash and steering wheel clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 20:35, Tom Hargrave wrote: Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
There is a chance, and I am going under in the morning to make sure all screws are tight at least to a modicum of torque. Will be looking for bushings that might be shot. I know the upper control arm needs some, as do the lowers, but I have not invested in a set of replacements and will be postponing that until spring or summer so that oldest boy will have something to work on before we take him out for driving lessons clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 20:57, Tom Hargrave wrote: It's vibrating when you apply the pedal and still doing it when the car's not moving? I would have guessed a colapsed motor mount the reverse torque on the engine that's being applied while your foot is off the accelerator was causing the metal parts to meet caused the vibration. But you repleced the mounts. Any chance that the 2 small screws that hold the mounts to the sub- frame are not properly tightened? Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I thought that, but it is persistent while stopped, not just at engagement. I have new engine transmission mounts which cured the previous shakes. There is some rattle transmitted to the dash and steering wheel clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 20:35, Tom Hargrave wrote: Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
