Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-21 Thread Rich Thomas
The Rip-rap is designed to be self-replicating, I suppose you could 
adjust the scale of the child creations...


--R

On 2/21/2011 8:12 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

I wonder if a 3-d printer could be made 'self feeding' using existing
material at hand, and then it could make smaller 3-d printers, which would
then make a even smaller printers, etc. etc. until you'd need a microscope
to see them, but don't get too close or you may become 'infested' and used
as material to make more printers.

-Max

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Read this article:

http://www.economist.com/node/18114327?story_id=18114327

OOPS...
That was the lead-in summary article.
Here's the entire special section:

http://www.economist.com/node/18114221

mao

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Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-21 Thread Max Dillon
I wonder if a 3-d printer could be made 'self feeding' using existing
material at hand, and then it could make smaller 3-d printers, which would
then make a even smaller printers, etc. etc. until you'd need a microscope
to see them, but don't get too close or you may become 'infested' and used
as material to make more printers.

-Max

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

> Read this article:
>
> http://www.economist.com/node/18114327?story_id=18114327

OOPS...
That was the lead-in summary article.
Here's the entire special section:

http://www.economist.com/node/18114221

mao

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Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-20 Thread John Reames
Maybe, yes. They are the ABS that has NO vacuum booster. The failure mode is 
that the boost seal in the cylinder starts weeping, then the pump starts to run 
too long until it seizes... Voilà! You have full manual breaks! (hope you have 
strong leg muscles!)

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On Feb 19, 2011, at 12:12, Walt Zarnoch  wrote:

> Leme correct that for you, I think you meant "Heep", not "Jeep"
> 
> Is this the ABS system with the electric pump and BFS (big freaking
> sphere) pressure accumulator? I see em in junkyards all the time, some
> Buick's have em.
> 
> Benz content:
> Upper oil pan is nearing completion, I'm finished except for some more
> material removal to fit the starter. That'll teach me to make
> clearances like that EXACT...
> 
> Walt
> 
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:04 PM, John Reames  wrote:
>> Chrysler let the JEEP* influence the MB 210's
>> 
>> having had a 91 XJ, with the (in)famous bendix (integral boost) abs-9/abs-10 
>> system, I can say that... Master cylinders are unobtanium. Whatever the 
>> books say fits that vehicle is NOT correct. It's a dealer only item, and has 
>> to be bought in pieces! (which the dealers cannot get anymore)
>> 
>> (*Just Eats Every Penny)
>> 
>> --
>> John W Reames
>> jwrea...@comcast.net
>> Home: +14106646986
>> Mobile: +14437915905
>> 
>> On Feb 18, 2011, at 22:36, Hendrik & Fay  wrote:
>> 
>>> Don't be mean Dan, Kaleb now has a 210 to support, so needs all the money 
>>> he can get, just to try and keep on top of the rust.
>>> Although I hear Regina has been dropping some big burnouts in the main 
>>> street of Claremore.
>>> 
>>> Hendrik
>>> who has some concreting to do
>>> 
>>> Mountain Man wrote:
 Does anyone have a W123 240D parts car I can purchase some parts?
 I need the alternator bracket with adjust screw and engine mount.
 I would assume Kleb has these in OkieLand, but I am thinking he has
 his hands full with other stuff these days.
 Thanks.
 mao
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-19 Thread Dieselhead

Or an  OM616 in a 110.  I made my own with a grinder, drill and thread tap.


Walt Zarnoch wrote:


I'm making a run of OM617 remote filter adapter plates, in case anyone
is interested. I'll throw the link and relevant info in another email
to the list so I don't keep thread-jacking this one...


Could come in handy if you want to put one in a W115.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Walt Zarnoch wrote:


I'm making a run of OM617 remote filter adapter plates, in case anyone
is interested. I'll throw the link and relevant info in another email
to the list so I don't keep thread-jacking this one...


Could come in handy if you want to put one in a W115.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Yeah, I've seen the makerbot's, rep-raps, and similar DIY printers,
but they're still very primitive compared to what I have access to
right now.

I'm not saying that they aren't worth the time or effort to build and
operate, just that I can more effectively employ the multitude of
subtractive processes at my disposal to meet my set end-goals in my
projected time frame.

Oh, on that note...

I'm making a run of OM617 remote filter adapter plates, in case anyone
is interested. I'll throw the link and relevant info in another email
to the list so I don't keep thread-jacking this one...

Walt

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Rich Thomas
 wrote:
> 3D printers can be built for $1000 or less but they use plastic not metal.
>  A manufacturing-sized machine, maybe it would use different plastics, would
> cost a lot more, but they exist for prototyping and limited production runs.
>  Metal can be done with an electro-something process but it takes forever
> and is really expensive (and so are the machines).
>
> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/12/3d-printing-and-fabrication-open-so.html
>
> --R
>
> On 2/19/2011 4:39 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
>>
>> Walt wrote:
>>>
>>> Upper oil pan is nearing completion, I'm finished except for some more
>>> material removal to fit the starter.
>>
>> Read this article:
>>
>> http://www.economist.com/node/18114327?story_id=18114327
>>
>> Instead of  removal manufacturing, how about additive manufacturing
>> using 3d material printing.  Sounds like awesome tech... someday in
>> your hometown...
>>
>> And... you are set up to work this tech today, as you know Inventor...
>> mao
>>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-19 Thread Rich Thomas
3D printers can be built for $1000 or less but they use plastic not 
metal.  A manufacturing-sized machine, maybe it would use different 
plastics, would cost a lot more, but they exist for prototyping and 
limited production runs.  Metal can be done with an electro-something 
process but it takes forever and is really expensive (and so are the 
machines).


http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/12/3d-printing-and-fabrication-open-so.html

--R

On 2/19/2011 4:39 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Walt wrote:

Upper oil pan is nearing completion, I'm finished except for some more
material removal to fit the starter.

Read this article:

http://www.economist.com/node/18114327?story_id=18114327

Instead of  removal manufacturing, how about additive manufacturing
using 3d material printing.  Sounds like awesome tech... someday in
your hometown...

And... you are set up to work this tech today, as you know Inventor...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Very interesting article, I've been following the work in some trade
pubs i get, it seems to be making stellar leaps every other time it's
featured.

Would likely be more than 6 feet of 1x4 aluminum and some 1/8 inch
plate though, till the price goes down at least.
If made out of plastic, it might be cheaper, but for now I'll stick
with what I know.

Walt, who unintentionally hijacked, yet again...

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:
>> Read this article:
>>
>> http://www.economist.com/node/18114327?story_id=18114327
>
> OOPS...
> That was the lead-in summary article.
> Here's the entire special section:
>
> http://www.economist.com/node/18114221
>
> mao
>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-19 Thread Mountain Man
> Read this article:
>
> http://www.economist.com/node/18114327?story_id=18114327

OOPS...
That was the lead-in summary article.
Here's the entire special section:

http://www.economist.com/node/18114221

mao

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Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-19 Thread Mountain Man
Walt wrote:
> Upper oil pan is nearing completion, I'm finished except for some more
> material removal to fit the starter.

Read this article:

http://www.economist.com/node/18114327?story_id=18114327

Instead of  removal manufacturing, how about additive manufacturing
using 3d material printing.  Sounds like awesome tech... someday in
your hometown...

And... you are set up to work this tech today, as you know Inventor...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Leme correct that for you, I think you meant "Heep", not "Jeep"

Is this the ABS system with the electric pump and BFS (big freaking
sphere) pressure accumulator? I see em in junkyards all the time, some
Buick's have em.

Benz content:
Upper oil pan is nearing completion, I'm finished except for some more
material removal to fit the starter. That'll teach me to make
clearances like that EXACT...

Walt

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:04 PM, John Reames  wrote:
> Chrysler let the JEEP* influence the MB 210's
>
> having had a 91 XJ, with the (in)famous bendix (integral boost) abs-9/abs-10 
> system, I can say that... Master cylinders are unobtanium. Whatever the books 
> say fits that vehicle is NOT correct. It's a dealer only item, and has to be 
> bought in pieces! (which the dealers cannot get anymore)
>
> (*Just Eats Every Penny)
>
> --
> John W Reames
> jwrea...@comcast.net
> Home: +14106646986
> Mobile: +14437915905
>
> On Feb 18, 2011, at 22:36, Hendrik & Fay  wrote:
>
>> Don't be mean Dan, Kaleb now has a 210 to support, so needs all the money he 
>> can get, just to try and keep on top of the rust.
>> Although I hear Regina has been dropping some big burnouts in the main 
>> street of Claremore.
>>
>> Hendrik
>> who has some concreting to do
>>
>> Mountain Man wrote:
>>> Does anyone have a W123 240D parts car I can purchase some parts?
>>> I need the alternator bracket with adjust screw and engine mount.
>>> I would assume Kleb has these in OkieLand, but I am thinking he has
>>> his hands full with other stuff these days.
>>> Thanks.
>>> mao
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-19 Thread John Reames
Chrysler let the JEEP* influence the MB 210's 

having had a 91 XJ, with the (in)famous bendix (integral boost) abs-9/abs-10 
system, I can say that... Master cylinders are unobtanium. Whatever the books 
say fits that vehicle is NOT correct. It's a dealer only item, and has to be 
bought in pieces! (which the dealers cannot get anymore)

(*Just Eats Every Penny)

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On Feb 18, 2011, at 22:36, Hendrik & Fay  wrote:

> Don't be mean Dan, Kaleb now has a 210 to support, so needs all the money he 
> can get, just to try and keep on top of the rust.
> Although I hear Regina has been dropping some big burnouts in the main street 
> of Claremore.
> 
> Hendrik
> who has some concreting to do
> 
> Mountain Man wrote:
>> Does anyone have a W123 240D parts car I can purchase some parts?
>> I need the alternator bracket with adjust screw and engine mount.
>> I would assume Kleb has these in OkieLand, but I am thinking he has
>> his hands full with other stuff these days.
>> Thanks.
>> mao
>> 
>>  
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 engine parts for Uncle Scrooge

2011-02-18 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Don't be mean Dan, Kaleb now has a 210 to support, so needs all the 
money he can get, just to try and keep on top of the rust.
Although I hear Regina has been dropping some big burnouts in the main 
street of Claremore.


Hendrik
who has some concreting to do

Mountain Man wrote:

Does anyone have a W123 240D parts car I can purchase some parts?
I need the alternator bracket with adjust screw and engine mount.
I would assume Kleb has these in OkieLand, but I am thinking he has
his hands full with other stuff these days.
Thanks.
mao

  



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