Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
New seal will be ordered right away, It's worth it. Thanks . Ralph On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, Use weatherstrip cement. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
Hopefully you get a seal that has not aged on the shelve for the last 20 years. I got a hood pad that fell apart within a month. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: New seal will be ordered right away, It's worth it. Thanks . Ralph On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, Use weatherstrip cement. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
checked trunk seal, appeared good, however it was easily removed, and pulled out of groove without any difficulty, so it would seem that it is not sealed good enough for water. Wondering if I have to remove old glue on the rubber before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, and if so, how would I remove that glue without damaging the seal/rubber. There are no cracks or tears in the rubber seal and it appears in good shape so should be able to simply re-glue and install again. Ralph On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, will have the seal checked carefully. The water seems to come in at the top of the trunk, right across the whole trunk. Possibly even from the ledge under the window, but it could be running from the trunk lid across to this ledge. Will check it out. Ralph On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Check your trunk seal. Clean it well, make sure it is not cracked or broken where it attaches to the lip. --R On 7/26/13 10:04 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
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Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
Don't cheap out. Get a new one. The glue isn't there to keep the water out, though it will if you use glue on the top and bottom of the old seal and glue the trunk shut. :-) It's kind of like a garden hose which has a rubber washer to seal the connection against leaks. IF the connection isn't tight enough the rubber washer will leak even if you take it out and glue it in on one surface. Tighten the connection and the leak stops even without the glue. The pressure of the rubber between the metal of the lid and the frame is what keeps the water out and if it isn't enough, water will seep through like it is now because the old seal has taken a set since it's been sitting in the squished closed position for the last 20 or 30 years. New rubber has more resistance against compression thus making the seal tighter which will keep water out better. Manfred Ralph Robertson wrote: checked trunk seal, appeared good, however it was easily removed, and pulled out of groove without any difficulty, so it would seem that it is not sealed good enough for water. Wondering if I have to remove old glue on the rubber before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, and if so, how would I remove that glue without damaging the seal/rubber. There are no cracks or tears in the rubber seal and it appears in good shape so should be able to simply re-glue and install again. Ralph On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, will have the seal checked carefully. The water seems to come in at the top of the trunk, right across the whole trunk. Possibly even from the ledge under the window, but it could be running from the trunk lid across to this ledge. Will check it out. Ralph On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Check your trunk seal. Clean it well, make sure it is not cracked or broken where it attaches to the lip. --R On 7/26/13 10:04 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
My guess would be that the old seal will be fine unless it appears deformed. My car has the same issue. The trunk seal is there but is not glued in at all. I am guessing the previous owner got a new seal when the car was painted but never got to installing it properly. I have not yet glued it in for a number of reasons including prorcastination. The other reason is that there is a spot that needs a touch up of paint. I need to remove the rubber and sand and paint a spot that shows surface rusting before I glue the thing in. So long as I keep it properly arranged, it seems to be fine but if I open and close the trunk a few times without checking it, then it seems to creep a bit and I get leaking into the trunk. So, in my case I think the seal will be fine and I am guessing the same for you unless there is something visibly wrong with the seal. Randy On 29/07/2013 2:01 PM, MG wrote: Don't cheap out. Get a new one. The glue isn't there to keep the water out, though it will if you use glue on the top and bottom of the old seal and glue the trunk shut. :-) It's kind of like a garden hose which has a rubber washer to seal the connection against leaks. IF the connection isn't tight enough the rubber washer will leak even if you take it out and glue it in on one surface. Tighten the connection and the leak stops even without the glue. The pressure of the rubber between the metal of the lid and the frame is what keeps the water out and if it isn't enough, water will seep through like it is now because the old seal has taken a set since it's been sitting in the squished closed position for the last 20 or 30 years. New rubber has more resistance against compression thus making the seal tighter which will keep water out better. Manfred Ralph Robertson wrote: checked trunk seal, appeared good, however it was easily removed, and pulled out of groove without any difficulty, so it would seem that it is not sealed good enough for water. Wondering if I have to remove old glue on the rubber before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, and if so, how would I remove that glue without damaging the seal/rubber. There are no cracks or tears in the rubber seal and it appears in good shape so should be able to simply re-glue and install again. Ralph ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
thanks, will have the seal checked carefully. The water seems to come in at the top of the trunk, right across the whole trunk. Possibly even from the ledge under the window, but it could be running from the trunk lid across to this ledge. Will check it out. Ralph On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Check your trunk seal. Clean it well, make sure it is not cracked or broken where it attaches to the lip. --R On 7/26/13 10:04 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
Check your trunk seal. Clean it well, make sure it is not cracked or broken where it attaches to the lip. --R On 7/26/13 10:04 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
Possibly the rear drains of the sunroof are plugged. Manfred Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:04:23 -0400 From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water Leak in trunk of W-126 Longbody and seat Question.
MARSHALL BOOTH wrote: ANGELO GIAIMO wrote: What would cause water (turned to ice by the following AM here) accumulate in the driver's side of the trunkthe depressed area right behind the wheel well? It's been dry since being re-painted this fall, but not really driven in the rain. Saturday night, I went thru some thunderous downpours and bad crosswinds, and Sunday AM, ICE The seal on the trunklid was replaced but I would have thaught if that was leaking, I'd see more evidence. I know there's a vent down there somewhere, but are they troublesome? Today it's 4 degrees, and it's still frozen sold ;-(, but when it thaws out, where do I start looking? And another question...the panel on the back of the passinger's seat has fallen off. No clue has to how it happened. Do they just snap back on, or are there some screws and/or clips that keep them in place. Rear taillight seals are known to often leak as they age. There can also be leaks from the trunk lid seals OR even from the emblem or trunk lock mounting holes. Finally, the rear window seal is a common source of water. Well, I checked around the tail light assy and under the trunk lid and did not find any water. What I DID find in the trunk was this triangular shaped piece of rubber about 4X6X8 inches, about .5 inches thick. Just happens to match the opening at the back side of the wheel well on the outside of the car that prevents water from splashing up behind the bumper, where the vent is. Don't know how it got in the trunk; I THINK that panel was in place when I picked up the vehicle after paint in Oct (I'll have to check the many pictures I took afterwards), but I did have 2 rear tires mounted a few days ago; maybe the tire shop saw it was loose and thru it into the trunk and did'nt tell me...who knows? Guess I'll have to monitor the situaition. As for the seat, I found the screw holes, found 1 screws on the floor, the other still in the panel, but won't hold. When it's a little warmer, I'll figure out why it fell down. Thanks to all who responded, I appreciate your help. Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532); 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
Re: [MBZ] Water Leak in trunk of W-126 Longbody and seat Question.
Well, I checked around the tail light assy and under the trunk lid and did not find any water. What I DID find in the trunk was this triangular shaped piece of rubber about 4X6X8 inches, about .5 inches thick. Just happens to match the opening at the back side of the wheel well on the outside of the car that prevents water from splashing up behind the bumper, where the vent is. Don't know how it got in the trunk; I THINK that panel was in place when I picked up the vehicle after paint in Oct (I'll have to check the many pictures I took afterwards), but I did have 2 rear tires mounted a few days ago; maybe the tire shop saw it was loose and thru it into the trunk and did'nt tell me...who knows? Guess I'll have to monitor the situaition. Weird. The one-way vents (w/flappers) _do_ need to be shielded from direct spray off of the wheel. -- Jim
[MBZ] Water Leak in trunk of W-126 Longbody and seat Question.
What would cause water (turned to ice by the following AM here) accumulate in the driver's side of the trunkthe depressed area right behind the wheel well? It's been dry since being re-painted this fall, but not really driven in the rain. Saturday night, I went thru some thunderous downpours and bad crosswinds, and Sunday AM, ICE The seal on the trunklid was replaced but I would have thaught if that was leaking, I'd see more evidence. I know there's a vent down there somewhere, but are they troublesome? Today it's 4 degrees, and it's still frozen sold ;-(, but when it thaws out, where do I start looking? And another question...the panel on the back of the passinger's seat has fallen off. No clue has to how it happened. Do they just snap back on, or are there some screws and/or clips that keep them in place. Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532); 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
Re: [MBZ] Water Leak in trunk of W-126 Longbody and seat Question.
Angelo - 126's are known to develop rear window seal leaks, and the leak will collect water in the 'well' as you describe. You can check for that (when it melts) by feeling around in between the metal cross trunk structure, under the rear window and ahead of the trunk opening. Yes, there is a big air vent on the side of the trunk well on each side, as well as a rubber drain plug in the bottom. But water would only come in that way when driving, while a rear window leak will show up when parked. Werner - Original Message - From: ANGELO GIAIMO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] Water Leak in trunk of W-126 Longbody and seat Question. What would cause water (turned to ice by the following AM here) accumulate in the driver's side of the trunkthe depressed area right behind the wheel well? It's been dry since being re-painted this fall, but not really driven in the rain. Saturday night, I went thru some thunderous downpours and bad crosswinds, and Sunday AM, ICE The seal on the trunklid was replaced but I would have thaught if that was leaking, I'd see more evidence. I know there's a vent down there somewhere, but are they troublesome? Today it's 4 degrees, and it's still frozen sold ;-(, but when it thaws out, where do I start looking? And another question...the panel on the back of the passinger's seat has fallen off. No clue has to how it happened. Do they just snap back on, or are there some screws and/or clips that keep them in place. Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532); 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Water Leak in trunk of W-126 Longbody and seat Question.
Rear window seal or tail light seal. Seat back panel has to screws at the bottom pointing up that hold it in. ANGELO GIAIMO wrote: What would cause water (turned to ice by the following AM here) accumulate in the driver's side of the trunkthe depressed area right behind the wheel well? It's been dry since being re-painted this fall, but not really driven in the rain. Saturday night, I went thru some thunderous downpours and bad crosswinds, and Sunday AM, ICE The seal on the trunklid was replaced but I would have thaught if that was leaking, I'd see more evidence. I know there's a vent down there somewhere, but are they troublesome? Today it's 4 degrees, and it's still frozen sold ;-(, but when it thaws out, where do I start looking? And another question...the panel on the back of the passinger's seat has fallen off. No clue has to how it happened. Do they just snap back on, or are there some screws and/or clips that keep them in place. Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532); 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Water Leak in trunk of W-126 Longbody and seat Question.
What would cause water (turned to ice by the following AM here) accumulate in the driver's side of the trunkthe depressed area right behind the wheel well? As often as not it's the taillight seal. Water runs down the trunk channel and onto the taillight, and thence into the rear of the trunk. Glub, glub. It's easy to test by looking with a hose or other water source. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Water Leak in trunk of W-126 Longbody and seat Question.
ANGELO GIAIMO wrote: What would cause water (turned to ice by the following AM here) accumulate in the driver's side of the trunkthe depressed area right behind the wheel well? It's been dry since being re-painted this fall, but not really driven in the rain. Saturday night, I went thru some thunderous downpours and bad crosswinds, and Sunday AM, ICE The seal on the trunklid was replaced but I would have thaught if that was leaking, I'd see more evidence. I know there's a vent down there somewhere, but are they troublesome? Today it's 4 degrees, and it's still frozen sold ;-(, but when it thaws out, where do I start looking? And another question...the panel on the back of the passinger's seat has fallen off. No clue has to how it happened. Do they just snap back on, or are there some screws and/or clips that keep them in place. Rear taillight seals are known to often leak as they age. There can also be leaks from the trunk lid seals OR even from the emblem or trunk lock mounting holes. Finally, the rear window seal is a common source of water. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
David Brodbeck wrote: I may have partly solved this, today. I picked up my toolbox, which sits in the right hand junk well (behind the wheel well), and found I had my own private swimming pool in there. The left well was dry. I peered under that part of the car and saw what looked suspiciously like a drain fitting. I probed it and found something in the way...probed harder, and water started gushing out. Is this a sunroof drain, or does it just drain water that's already leaked into the trunk? The rear taillight seals often leak and provide a path into the side wells. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
I may have partly solved this, today. I picked up my toolbox, which sits in the right hand junk well (behind the wheel well), and found I had my own private swimming pool in there. The left well was dry. I peered under that part of the car and saw what looked suspiciously like a drain fitting. I probed it and found something in the way...probed harder, and water started gushing out. Is this a sunroof drain, or does it just drain water that's already leaked into the trunk?
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
I put a piece of wire in there (like 12g house wire with black insulation) with the end just sticking out an inch or so, and every now and again just jiggle it a bit to keep the hole open. That will save you having to dig around in the well to clean it out, once you have it clean. The wire is not big enough to cause a clog, but if trash gets in there that usually dislodges it. --R David Brodbeck wrote: I may have partly solved this, today. I picked up my toolbox, which sits in the right hand junk well (behind the wheel well), and found I had my own private swimming pool in there. The left well was dry. I peered under that part of the car and saw what looked suspiciously like a drain fitting. I probed it and found something in the way...probed harder, and water started gushing out. Is this a sunroof drain, or does it just drain water that's already leaked into the trunk? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
harder, and water started gushing out. Is this a sunroof drain, or does it just drain water that's already leaked into the trunk? B. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
Jim Cathey wrote: harder, and water started gushing out. Is this a sunroof drain, or does it just drain water that's already leaked into the trunk? B. Okay. So I'm only treating the symptom, and I've still got to find the leak.
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
That's the drain for the trunk. Both junk wells have drains - they have
rubber bushings to keep water from the road from splashing in.
But the water that you're letting out entered from somewhere above - perhaps
like mine - from the underside of the hatrack.
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I may have partly solved this, today. I picked up my toolbox, which
sits in the right hand junk well (behind the wheel well), and found I
had my own private swimming pool in there. The left well was dry. I
peered under that part of the car and saw what looked suspiciously like
a drain fitting. I probed it and found something in the way...probed
harder, and water started gushing out. Is this a sunroof drain, or does
it just drain water that's already leaked into the trunk?
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Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
Marshall Booth wrote: If the water is dripping off of the hinges, the water probably isn't likely coming in around the truck seals (and certainly NOT the tail light seals or the filler pipe seal), but from above - like around the rear window. To be honest, I'm not sure if it's dripping down from the hinges to begin with, or if it's just gotten so humid in the trunk from the standing water that the condensation on the trunk lid runs down the hinges when I open it. I looked closely today and saw water marks in the dust around the tail lights, so I'm going to start there.
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
David Brodbeck wrote: Nick Gough wrote: Have you checked the trunk seal itself? The trunk lid could be out of alignment and allowing water to get in through the gap. BTDT. That's on my list, too. Any good tricks for checking it? I was thinking of smearing lipstick on the seal, closing the trunk, then opening it again and looking for gaps in the 'kiss mark' on the trunk lid... Slip a strip of paper in and close the trunk. Try that several times in different places. There should be resistance to pulling the paper out. If the water is dripping off of the hinges, the water probably isn't likely coming in around the truck seals (and certainly NOT the tail light seals or the filler pipe seal), but from above - like around the rear window. The truck DOES have some adjustment of the hinge to insure that it does seal. On some models, water CAN enter the trunk around the model (300D/190D etc) emblem or the star or the truck latch. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
If you get water in the rear floorboards, the front windshield is probably leaking. David Brodbeck wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: I can't tell if it's all coming from condensation, or if the condensation is a symptom of a leak elsewhere. I vote for the latter, like maybe rear window seal. Could be. I've never found any wetness on the rear parcel tray, but I do get water on the rear floorboards. Maybe I should attack it with the same silicone sealer I used to seal the leaky rear windows on my Volvo wagon. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
yep. Gump weeps too. I think I may need to install some Depends On Tuesday, November 15, 2005, at 11:40 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: Anyone else have this problem? Every morning there's a ton of condensation on the inside of the trunk lid. It runs down the hinges into the trunk when I open the lid, and rains down on the contents from the rear lip where it's collected. Last week I took the carpet out and found it had soaked up what seemed like about a pint of water. I can't tell if it's all coming from condensation, or if the condensation is a symptom of a leak elsewhere. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Have you checked the trunk seal itself? The trunk lid could be out of alignment and allowing water to get in through the gap. BTDT. Taillight housing seals? BTDT as well. Good Luck. Nick Gough 86 300SDL 171k 93 300E 2.8 121k 97 Jetta 70k - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 16 17:13:17 2005 Received: from web51512.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.158]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EcQqS-0003f1-Rm for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:13:17 + Received: (qmail 66035 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2005 17:13:12 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IDvzveBU9KGr/sH8tPaqCOt1ibjQxkTFb4yM1Gdpj+BsPr5640K2d1Sh9oXjbMWkKYBDzck2lZLFOXrmUBG8HwJitXdQ1ZEy/krIXKBi0TgEp3vDW6yAY/GsYnl4YfTICzW9/z70hVay0j5tYWpgipQSPZeXu2WXWflP36Ia0cE= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.185.18.207] by web51512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:13:11 PST Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:13:11 -0800 (PST) From: Nick Gough [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] New C-class X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:13:17 - I've seen the posts regarding the E-class W210 cars rusting out in weird locations. Does anyone have any knowledge of how solid the new C-class models are? I like the styling and handling and interior comfort and may be interested in getting a new C230 Sport within the next 2 years... mit 6-speed and all-season tires. I'd really like to get a new(er) C22CDI wagon with the 6-speed, but it is very difficult to get one into the US, unless one is willing to fork over $15k for shipping and conversion and have no warranty. I drove a 2002 C320 wagon awhile back and was duely impressed with almost everything about it. I just don't know of its history as a model line. Shops don't really see them as most are still under warranty and dealers prolly won't be honest enough to give the straight scoop on issues. I am not so sure I trust a few people's nasty notes on their woes (some being self-induced as they appear to be very, very anal). Comments? Thx. Nick Gough 86300SDL 171k 93 300E 2.8 121k 97 Jetta 70k - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 16 18:04:51 2005 Received: from mail1.globat.com ([203.22.204.31]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EcReN-rx-1k for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:04:51 + Received: from cm-ms1.globat.com (cm-ms1.inside.globat.com [10.1.1.142]) by mail1.globat.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jAGI4i02022666 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:04:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by cm-ms1.globat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AA04747A5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from cm-ms1.globat.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cm-ms1.globat.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12542-01-11 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:04:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from AITXPWSTG (unknown [216.248.140.218]) by cm-ms1.globat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6293474819 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:04:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Terry Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:02:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned:
[MBZ] Water in the trunk
Anyone else have this problem? Every morning there's a ton of condensation on the inside of the trunk lid. It runs down the hinges into the trunk when I open the lid, and rains down on the contents from the rear lip where it's collected. Last week I took the carpet out and found it had soaked up what seemed like about a pint of water. I can't tell if it's all coming from condensation, or if the condensation is a symptom of a leak elsewhere.
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
David Brodbeck wrote: Anyone else have this problem? Every morning there's a ton of condensation on the inside of the trunk lid. It runs down the hinges into the trunk when I open the lid, and rains down on the contents from the rear lip where it's collected. Last week I took the carpet out and found it had soaked up what seemed like about a pint of water. I can't tell if it's all coming from condensation, or if the condensation is a symptom of a leak elsewhere. I should probably add that this is a W123.
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
David Brodbeck wrote: I can't tell if it's all coming from condensation, or if the condensation is a symptom of a leak elsewhere. I vote for the latter, like maybe rear window seal.
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
Mitch Haley wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: I can't tell if it's all coming from condensation, or if the condensation is a symptom of a leak elsewhere. I vote for the latter, like maybe rear window seal. Could be. I've never found any wetness on the rear parcel tray, but I do get water on the rear floorboards. Maybe I should attack it with the same silicone sealer I used to seal the leaky rear windows on my Volvo wagon.
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
As others have mentioned, the rear window seal is a common leak point. You also might want to check the tail lights as this is where our 300D was leaking. Terry Geiger Florence, Alabama USA http://www.shoalsbritishcars.org '74 Triumph TR6 (my sunny day car) '63 Triumph Herald (wife's sunny day car) '84 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel (wife's car) '90 Chevy S10 (parts fetcher) - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] Water in the trunk Anyone else have this problem? Every morning there's a ton of condensation on the inside of the trunk lid. It runs down the hinges into the trunk when I open the lid, and rains down on the contents from the rear lip where it's collected. Last week I took the carpet out and found it had soaked up what seemed like about a pint of water. I can't tell if it's all coming from condensation, or if the condensation is a symptom of a leak elsewhere. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
Another place to look -- although probably not your issue -- is the rubber seal around the fuel fill pipe. Mine is bad and lets water into the side well. On 11/15/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else have this problem? Every morning there's a ton of condensation on the inside of the trunk lid. It runs down the hinges into the trunk when I open the lid, and rains down on the contents from the rear lip where it's collected. Last week I took the carpet out and found it had soaked up what seemed like about a pint of water. I can't tell if it's all coming from condensation, or if the condensation is a symptom of a leak elsewhere. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
David Brodbeck wrote: Anyone else have this problem? Every morning there's a ton of condensation on the inside of the trunk lid. It runs down the hinges into the trunk when I open the lid, and rains down on the contents from the rear lip where it's collected. Last week I took the carpet out and found it had soaked up what seemed like about a pint of water. I can't tell if it's all coming from condensation, or if the condensation is a symptom of a leak elsewhere. IT'S NOT CONDENSATION! It's at least ONE leak. Probably along the rear window seal or even more likely, the metal around the rear window has rusted so the seal no longer seals. It is best to have someone at a glass shop (that has Mercedes experience) fix it, but I've succeeded in fixing on or two myself (and one of them never leaked again). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Water in the trunk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a similar problem with my '78 240D W123 - I believe if was coming in thru the drain lines in the roof - for water entering via my sunroof - don't know if you have a SR - Yeah, I do have a sunroof. I'll add that to my list of stuff to check. It's hard to tell exactly where the water's coming from, because by now it's permanently humid in the trunk and water is condensing *everywhere*.
