[MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank

2005-11-01 Thread Bob Rentfro
So...what does a gallon of bio weigh? If I slapped a correct aluminum aux tank 
in my trunk and filled it (26 gal) of bio, what would the weight be? Would I be 
all saggy in the rear (the car you clowns).  I hate the look of a saggy rear 
(in my cars too).

Thanks

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 142K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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Dan found

There is one on ebay: (correct aux fuel tank for W123)

Sweet.

That is the price the old German guy at the boneyard here wanted for the one
he had. I haven't seen one since...until now.
I have a friend coming out here for Thanksgiving from Joplin...maybe I'll
put a bid in and, if I wim it, I'll have her schlep it out here to me.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 142K
Litchfield Park, AZ




Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank

2005-11-01 Thread Marshall Booth

Bob Rentfro wrote:

So...what does a gallon of bio weigh? If I slapped a correct aluminum aux tank 
in my trunk and filled it (26 gal) of bio, what would the weight be? Would I be 
all saggy in the rear (the car you clowns).  I hate the look of a saggy rear 
(in my cars too).



26 gallons will weigh ABOUT 200 lb plus the weight of the tank. Almost 
the correct weight to make the car ideal in snow (weight distribution 
about 50:50)!!


Marshall
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[MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank

2005-11-01 Thread Dan Holden
Bob wrote:  So...what does a gallon of bio weigh? If I slapped a correct
aluminum aux tank in my trunk and filled it (26 gal) of bio, what would the
weight be? Would I be all saggy in the rear (the car you clowns).

At 6 pounds per gallon it would weigh about the same as an adult size
passenger in the back seat.  Does your car sag when somebody sits in the
back seat?  If you fill both fuel tanks and put five big adults in the car
it will droop.  If you have one or two people up front and both tanks topped
you should not notice any appreciable change.

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank

2005-11-01 Thread l02turner

Most liquids weigh approx 8# - close enough for planning purposes.
26 gal X 8 = 208#'s Your rearend might sag. ;-)

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Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank

2005-11-01 Thread Marshall Booth

ernest breakfield wrote:

when i throw 20 gallons (4 x 5 Gallon carboys)of B100 in the trunk and
fill up the tank, it's noticeably lower in the rear than if i have a
passenger in the back seat. (FWIW, the shocks are fairly new, and springs
seem good.)
   having the weight farther back makes the same weight have more of an
effect on the cars attitude; to the point that if i put the carboys at
the front of the trunk it doesn't make as much of a difference as if i
put them at the back.


And if you stuck a 20 foot pole out the back of the car and hung the 
B100 on it, the car would sit even lower.


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Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank

2005-11-01 Thread ernest breakfield
the geometry involved seemed obvious to me (and you, apparently); but that
didn't seem apparent to a poster who implied that the weight in the trunk
was like a passengers weight in the rear seat,... that's why i thought it
necessary and appropriate to be specific and clarify.

   was there something of value you were trying to add to the discussion?


cheers!
e


 ernest breakfield wrote:
 when i throw 20 gallons (4 x 5 Gallon carboys)of B100 in the trunk and
 fill up the tank, it's noticeably lower in the rear than if i have a
 passenger in the back seat. (FWIW, the shocks are fairly new, and
 springs
 seem good.)
having the weight farther back makes the same weight have more of an
 effect on the cars attitude; to the point that if i put the carboys at
 the front of the trunk it doesn't make as much of a difference as if i
 put them at the back.

 And if you stuck a 20 foot pole out the back of the car and hung the
 B100 on it, the car would sit even lower.

 Marshall



Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank

2005-11-01 Thread John Ervine

ernest breakfield wrote:

the geometry involved seemed obvious to me (and you, apparently); but that
didn't seem apparent to a poster who implied that the weight in the trunk
was like a passengers weight in the rear seat,... that's why i thought it
necessary and appropriate to be specific and clarify.

   was there something of value you were trying to add to the discussion?


Marshall was obviating the obvious by demonstrating the multiplication of force 
(in this, the weight of several carboys of B100, which can be depicted as a 
downward vector acting upon the rear axle) as applied by use of a lever, 
particularly in reference to storage and transportation of alternative fuels in 
Mercedes sedans.


Keep up, won't you?  ;-)

--
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi
1980 300TD 170+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi
1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi



Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank

2005-11-01 Thread ernest breakfield
obviating the obvious

   exactly.


 ernest breakfield wrote:
 the geometry involved seemed obvious to me (and you, apparently); but
 that
 didn't seem apparent to a poster who implied that the weight in the
 trunk
 was like a passengers weight in the rear seat,... that's why i thought
 it
 necessary and appropriate to be specific and clarify.

was there something of value you were trying to add to the
 discussion?

 Marshall was obviating the obvious by demonstrating the multiplication of
 force
 (in this, the weight of several carboys of B100, which can be depicted as
 a
 downward vector acting upon the rear axle) as applied by use of a lever,
 particularly in reference to storage and transportation of alternative
 fuels in
 Mercedes sedans.

 Keep up, won't you?  ;-)

 --
 John L. Ervine
 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi
 1980 300TD 170+kmi
 1980 300SD 277+kmi
 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi





Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank

2005-11-01 Thread Harry Watkins
Huh?

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
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81 240D manual trans

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 Marshall was obviating the obvious by demonstrating the multiplication of
force
 (in this, the weight of several carboys of B100, which can be depicted as
a
 downward vector acting upon the rear axle) as applied by use of a lever,
 particularly in reference to storage and transportation of alternative
fuels in
 Mercedes sedans.

 Keep up, won't you?  ;-)

 -- 
 John L. Ervine