Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

So it cranked slower and slower until finally "clunk".
That sounds like the probably didn't have enough energy to cause further 
damage.


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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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It was spinning fine, then it seemed like either the battery or starter was 
failing.  It spinned (spun?) slowly a coupla times then clunk and no spinnies. 
Charged up the battery but would still just clunk. Changed the starter and 
still just clunk. Tried to spin by hand forward and nothing though it will go 
backwards a bit. Should’ve tried that before going to the trouble of changing 
starter. 

This suggests chain is broken or bound up inside but could be something else I 
suppose. Guides broken?

—FT

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> On Jan 9, 2024, at 7:38 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2024-01-09 12:22, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> Is this an interference engine?
> 
> Fortunately I don't think he ever started it before it stopped spinning 
> freely.
> I don't know how much valve damage, if any, you'd get if the chain failed at 
> cranking speed.
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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 09 Jan 2024 19:37:32 -0500 mitch--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On 2024-01-09 12:22, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> > Is this an interference engine?
> > 
> 
> Fortunately I don't think he ever started it before it stopped spinning 
> freely.
> I don't know how much valve damage, if any, you'd get if the chain 
> failed at cranking speed.

Some starters can be rather powerful ...


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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2024-01-09 12:22, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Is this an interference engine?



Fortunately I don't think he ever started it before it stopped spinning 
freely.
I don't know how much valve damage, if any, you'd get if the chain 
failed at cranking speed.


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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Most likely. Almost all modern engines are.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024, at 15:08, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> I don’t know. Will have to check that out. M272
>
> --FT
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>
>> On Jan 9, 2024, at 12:23 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Is this an interference engine?
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
>>> On 09/01/2024 11:18 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I’m thinking timing chain at this point
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
> On Jan 9, 2024, at 12:09 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Not sure if that is good news or bad.
 
 Randy
 
 
> On 09/01/2024 11:00 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> I did that yesterday, no problems there
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2024, at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> Pull the plugs and make sure it is not hydro locked?
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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I don’t know. Will have to check that out. M272

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> On Jan 9, 2024, at 12:23 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
> Is this an interference engine?
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
>> On 09/01/2024 11:18 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’m thinking timing chain at this point
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Jan 9, 2024, at 12:09 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not sure if that is good news or bad.
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
>>> 
 On 09/01/2024 11:00 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
 I did that yesterday, no problems there
 
 --FT
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>> On Jan 9, 2024, at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> Pull the plugs and make sure it is not hydro locked?
> 
> Randy
> 
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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Is this an interference engine?

Randy


On 09/01/2024 11:18 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I’m thinking timing chain at this point
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On Jan 9, 2024, at 12:09 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

Not sure if that is good news or bad.

Randy



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I did that yesterday, no problems there

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On Jan 9, 2024, at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
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Pull the plugs and make sure it is not hydro locked?

Randy





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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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I’m thinking timing chain at this point
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> On Jan 9, 2024, at 12:09 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
> Not sure if that is good news or bad.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
>> On 09/01/2024 11:00 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> I did that yesterday, no problems there
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Jan 9, 2024, at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
  wrote:
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>>> Pull the plugs and make sure it is not hydro locked?
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Not sure if that is good news or bad.

Randy


On 09/01/2024 11:00 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I did that yesterday, no problems there

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On Jan 9, 2024, at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
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Pull the plugs and make sure it is not hydro locked?

Randy





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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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I did that yesterday, no problems there

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> On Jan 9, 2024, at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
> Pull the plugs and make sure it is not hydro locked?
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> 
>> On 08/01/2024 7:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yeah I’m thinking that but the gear spun freely, and in any case shouldn’t 
>> be engaged to the flywheel. The old one looked fine too and at this point 
>> I’m thinking the starter isn’t the issue.
>> 
>> I was able to spin the engine backwards a bit but going forward it hit a 
>> hard stop. Interestingly the timing marks on the crank pulley has 0deg right 
>> on top. Not sure if that means anything.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Jan 8, 2024, at 7:27 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd take off the new/used starter and try to turn the engine over before 
>>> writing it off.
>>> Mitch.
>>> 
 On 2024-01-08 15:49, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
 As it turns out the engine in this car is out of the bad range for M272 
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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Pull the plugs and make sure it is not hydro locked?

Randy



On 08/01/2024 7:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah I’m thinking that but the gear spun freely, and in any case shouldn’t be 
engaged to the flywheel. The old one looked fine too and at this point I’m 
thinking the starter isn’t the issue.

I was able to spin the engine backwards a bit but going forward it hit a hard 
stop. Interestingly the timing marks on the crank pulley has 0deg right on top. 
Not sure if that means anything.

--FT
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On Jan 8, 2024, at 7:27 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  wrote:

I'd take off the new/used starter and try to turn the engine over before 
writing it off.
Mitch.


On 2024-01-08 15:49, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
As it turns out the engine in this car is out of the bad range for M272 350 
engines.

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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yes after moving some electrical and hoses around they come off fairly 
easily


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On 1/9/24 9:15 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

On 2024-01-09 01:18, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I pulled all the plugs no joy. Next is cam covers.


Are the valve covers easier than the starter?

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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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On 2024-01-09 01:18, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I pulled all the plugs no joy. Next is cam covers.


Are the valve covers easier than the starter?

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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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I pulled all the plugs no joy. Next is cam covers. 

--FT
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> On Jan 9, 2024, at 12:53 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
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> 
> On 2024-01-08 20:32, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> I was able to spin the engine backwards a bit but going forward it hit a 
>> hard stop. Interestingly the timing marks on the crank pulley has 0deg right 
>> on top. Not sure if that means anything.
> 
> Hydrolock #1?
> Dropped valve?
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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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I was able to spin the engine backwards a bit but going forward it hit 
a hard stop. Interestingly the timing marks on the crank pulley has 
0deg right on top. Not sure if that means anything.


Hydrolock #1?
Dropped valve?

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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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Yeah I’m thinking that but the gear spun freely, and in any case shouldn’t be 
engaged to the flywheel. The old one looked fine too and at this point I’m 
thinking the starter isn’t the issue. 

I was able to spin the engine backwards a bit but going forward it hit a hard 
stop. Interestingly the timing marks on the crank pulley has 0deg right on top. 
Not sure if that means anything. 

--FT
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> On Jan 8, 2024, at 7:27 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'd take off the new/used starter and try to turn the engine over before 
> writing it off.
> Mitch.
> 
>> On 2024-01-08 15:49, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> As it turns out the engine in this car is out of the bad range for M272 350 
>> engines. 
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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

I'd take off the new/used starter and try to turn the engine over before 
writing it off.

Mitch.

On 2024-01-08 15:49, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
As it turns out the engine in this car is out of the bad range for M272 
350 engines. 


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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 15:49:40 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> As it turns out the engine in this car is out of the bad range for M272 
> 350 engines.  I'm not sure I checked that before and forgot I had, or 
> never checked it.  In any case that suggests that the balance shaft 
> issue is not the problem here, and it is something else that I will
> have to determine.  So, that is the next step in all this adventure.
> This is a bit of relief.

May you be successful in getting it repaired!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

As it turns out the engine in this car is out of the bad range for M272 
350 engines.  I'm not sure I checked that before and forgot I had, or 
never checked it.  In any case that suggests that the balance shaft 
issue is not the problem here, and it is something else that I will have 
to determine.  So, that is the next step in all this adventure.  This is 
a bit of relief.


--FT

On 1/7/24 4:40 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:


So this car I got for [$400] if I account for what I had in the $600 
(+ maybe $300 for the trans conductor plate fix) 99E320 I traded, and 
the woman gave me $500.  It was spinning but not lighting off.  My 
buddy Todd put on another ECU because the one on the car somehow 
thought it was for a V8 which was weird, but whatever.  We messed with 
it a bit and it would spin then after a bit not spin, starter seemed 
like it went bad.  He gave me another starter he had laying around and 
I just finished putting it on the car.  (it was not a very pleasant 
job, had to remove exhaust pipe, O2 sensors, etc. to get at it and it 
was incredibly tight up in there, but I managed)


So I threw a battery in and hit the start and... clunk.  And... clunk. 
Bugger.  So I went and found a big socket and put it on the crank 
and... nothing.  No spinnie, no turnie...  I guess it is locked up.  
Bugger.


This is kinda weird as it was spinning fine when I picked it up and 
when we were messing with it until it seemed like the starter had 
quit.  No cam codes or timing issues showing which is what you see 
when these engines jump timing due to the balance shaft sprocket 
wearing down.  I think there might be some way to get a borescope in 
there to look at it, I remember seeing something about that.


So anyway, it is a nice car other than the engine likely being 
trashed, which is kind of a surprise since it seemed to be spinning 
OK.  But not a lot of $$$ into it, I will look for another engine and 
pop it in.


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[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So this car I got for [$400] if I account for what I had in the $600 (+ 
maybe $300 for the trans conductor plate fix) 99E320 I traded, and the 
woman gave me $500.  It was spinning but not lighting off.  My buddy 
Todd put on another ECU because the one on the car somehow thought it 
was for a V8 which was weird, but whatever.  We messed with it a bit and 
it would spin then after a bit not spin, starter seemed like it went 
bad.  He gave me another starter he had laying around and I just 
finished putting it on the car.  (it was not a very pleasant job, had to 
remove exhaust pipe, O2 sensors, etc. to get at it and it was incredibly 
tight up in there, but I managed)


So I threw a battery in and hit the start and... clunk.  And... clunk. 
Bugger.  So I went and found a big socket and put it on the crank and... 
nothing.  No spinnie, no turnie...  I guess it is locked up.  Bugger.


This is kinda weird as it was spinning fine when I picked it up and when 
we were messing with it until it seemed like the starter had quit. No 
cam codes or timing issues showing which is what you see when these 
engines jump timing due to the balance shaft sprocket wearing down.  I 
think there might be some way to get a borescope in there to look at it, 
I remember seeing something about that.


So anyway, it is a nice car other than the engine likely being trashed, 
which is kind of a surprise since it seemed to be spinning OK.  But not 
a lot of $$$ into it, I will look for another engine and pop it in.


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Re: [MBZ] Well, Well, Well...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 18:47:51 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Probably not a lot, but there are a lot of things missing on that car
> that will be tough to find. Looks pretty solid for a Ponton, though,
> but definitely, a full-blown restoration is in order.

It's interesting the engine is a diesel, but the model number has no "D"
in it.

It's also interesting the injection pump is on the passenger side, unlike
later engines with the injection pump is on the driver's side.

Any idea what OM it is? OM621?

When I was in the USAF stationed in Colorado Springs in 1972, I had the
opportunity to buy a ponton diesel, but bought our '72 220D/8 new.


Craig


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> 
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/phoenix-1953-mercedes/7684014244.html

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Re: [MBZ] Well, Well, Well...

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Probably not a lot, but there are a lot of things missing on that car that will 
be tough to find. Looks pretty solid for a Ponton, though, but definitely, a 
full-blown restoration is in order.

-D

On Nov 6, 2023, at 11:23 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

NIEW BREAK LIGHT LENSES

that’s a cool car. Wonder what it would take to get a tittle

--FT
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https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/phoenix-1953-mercedes/7684014244.html



This is interesting



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NIEW BREAK LIGHT LENSESthat’s a cool car. Wonder what it would take to get a tittle --FTSent from iFōnOn Nov 6, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/phoenix-1953-mercedes/7684014244.html This is interesting AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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[MBZ] Well, Well, Well...

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Well $#!+

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> thought there was a fair amount of gas in it as I had put some in at some 
> point and have not driven it that much.

Well, it _is_ a V12 is it not?  Not sure why low fuel would have affected the 
transmission behavior.
Still wouldn't hurt to check the ground points.  A whole lotta crap can 'go 
bad' at once that way.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Well $#!+

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I woke up dis mawnin and the first thought in my cabeza was GAS! (Not 
THAT kind, petrol gas) So I took a jug up, poured it in the tank, the 
car fired up, and I drove it home.  DUH!


I don't have the "new" instrument cluster in and programmed yet, thought 
there was a fair amount of gas in it as I had put some in at some point 
and have not driven it that much. Actually thought as I was leaving the 
Vast Estate yesterday that I should hit the station to put some more in 
but NAH! I'll be OK!


Anyway, dumbass me...  I did get my steps in yesterday and today walking 
2.5mi home then back this morning to fetch the GL I took the gas can 
in.  So there's that...


--FT

On 6/4/23 9:17 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:

Good thought. I’ll have to check that out

--FT
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On Jun 4, 2023, at 7:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

I hate it when that happens. Sounds like a bad ground somewhere?


On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 6:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I decided to fool around with the CL600 this afternoon as it had been
throwing codes for O2 sensors and the cam sensor I had recently changed.
Battery charged up, started fine and… no codes!

Gave it a wash then out for a little spin. It was running great (these
things are REALLY fast). Got 2.5mi up the road and turned around in a
little shopping center lot then headed back.

Got about 1/4mi, went into a limp mode, transmission acting up, not
running well, finally died. I got it on the side of the road ok then hooked
up the scanner to see what it was unhappy about. Multiple misfires on 6-8
zylinders, a cam sensor code again, and some other random code for
something I forget.




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Re: [MBZ] Well $#!+

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Good thought. I’ll have to check that out

--FT
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> On Jun 4, 2023, at 7:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I hate it when that happens. Sounds like a bad ground somewhere?
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 6:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I decided to fool around with the CL600 this afternoon as it had been
>> throwing codes for O2 sensors and the cam sensor I had recently changed.
>> Battery charged up, started fine and… no codes!
>> 
>> Gave it a wash then out for a little spin. It was running great (these
>> things are REALLY fast). Got 2.5mi up the road and turned around in a
>> little shopping center lot then headed back.
>> 
>> Got about 1/4mi, went into a limp mode, transmission acting up, not
>> running well, finally died. I got it on the side of the road ok then hooked
>> up the scanner to see what it was unhappy about. Multiple misfires on 6-8
>> zylinders, a cam sensor code again, and some other random code for
>> something I forget.
>> 
>> I walked home (got my steps!) and came back in the GL with tools and
>> battery. I got thinking while I was walking that maybe the battery was bad
>> as it had run down a coupla times but charged right back up (and was fine
>> earlier). Jumped up a good new battery and still no joy. I then swapped it
>> in, nope. Engine will spin fine, barely runs at low rough idle then dies,
>> but now it sounds like the starter bendix is not disengaging. Weird.
>> 
>> It was doing some other kinda weird electrical things too. So I’m
>> wondering if there’s some electrical fault somewhere or if it’s something
>> else with the engine ECU or wiring or something. Don’t know why it would
>> just happen like that unless the heat made something really unhappy.
>> 
>> I’m gonna let it sit awhile and see if it cools down later. If it still
>> won’t go I guess I’ll get the trailer hooked up and go collect it in the
>> morning.
>> 
>> Bah.
>> 
>> --FT
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> 
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> are wearing."
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Werner
> Von Braun
> 
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> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
> doing it."
>-- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Well $#!+

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I hate it when that happens. Sounds like a bad ground somewhere?

On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 6:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I decided to fool around with the CL600 this afternoon as it had been
> throwing codes for O2 sensors and the cam sensor I had recently changed.
> Battery charged up, started fine and… no codes!
>
> Gave it a wash then out for a little spin. It was running great (these
> things are REALLY fast). Got 2.5mi up the road and turned around in a
> little shopping center lot then headed back.
>
> Got about 1/4mi, went into a limp mode, transmission acting up, not
> running well, finally died. I got it on the side of the road ok then hooked
> up the scanner to see what it was unhappy about. Multiple misfires on 6-8
> zylinders, a cam sensor code again, and some other random code for
> something I forget.
>
> I walked home (got my steps!) and came back in the GL with tools and
> battery. I got thinking while I was walking that maybe the battery was bad
> as it had run down a coupla times but charged right back up (and was fine
> earlier). Jumped up a good new battery and still no joy. I then swapped it
> in, nope. Engine will spin fine, barely runs at low rough idle then dies,
> but now it sounds like the starter bendix is not disengaging. Weird.
>
> It was doing some other kinda weird electrical things too. So I’m
> wondering if there’s some electrical fault somewhere or if it’s something
> else with the engine ECU or wiring or something. Don’t know why it would
> just happen like that unless the heat made something really unhappy.
>
> I’m gonna let it sit awhile and see if it cools down later. If it still
> won’t go I guess I’ll get the trailer hooked up and go collect it in the
> morning.
>
> Bah.
>
> --FT
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are wearing."

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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Von Braun

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In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
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I decided to fool around with the CL600 this afternoon as it had been throwing 
codes for O2 sensors and the cam sensor I had recently changed. Battery charged 
up, started fine and… no codes!  

Gave it a wash then out for a little spin. It was running great (these things 
are REALLY fast). Got 2.5mi up the road and turned around in a little shopping 
center lot then headed back. 

Got about 1/4mi, went into a limp mode, transmission acting up, not running 
well, finally died. I got it on the side of the road ok then hooked up the 
scanner to see what it was unhappy about. Multiple misfires on 6-8 zylinders, a 
cam sensor code again, and some other random code for something I forget. 

I walked home (got my steps!) and came back in the GL with tools and battery. I 
got thinking while I was walking that maybe the battery was bad as it had run 
down a coupla times but charged right back up (and was fine earlier). Jumped up 
a good new battery and still no joy. I then swapped it in, nope. Engine will 
spin fine, barely runs at low rough idle then dies, but now it sounds like the 
starter bendix is not disengaging. Weird. 

It was doing some other kinda weird electrical things too. So I’m wondering if 
there’s some electrical fault somewhere or if it’s something else with the 
engine ECU or wiring or something. Don’t know why it would just happen like 
that unless the heat made something really unhappy. 

I’m gonna let it sit awhile and see if it cools down later. If it still won’t 
go I guess I’ll get the trailer hooked up and go collect it in the morning. 

Bah.

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Well? What is it?

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Talking Heads. ;)

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>
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Re: [MBZ] Well that was easy — locks on CL500

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I’ll dig into it then. I’ve just used my Icarsoft so far

--FT
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> On Jul 24, 2022, at 6:01 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> DRL - daytime running lights. Required by law in Canadia. And yes, you can 
> disable them with SDS.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2022, at 5:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The headlights are the kind that come on when the car is on. What’s that 
>> callEd, DRO or DRL or something?  I think they might either be some super 
>> bright bulbs as they look kinda blue or LEDs that are causing a fault. But 
>> they work. I’ll leave good enough alone. 
>> 
>> I’ll have to look and see if I can shut that always-on “feature” off with 
>> the fancy computer. It annoys me. 
>> 
>> I’ll dig into the taillights at some point and figure out how to remove 
>> them.  The RF corner marker fixture in the bumper is broken and the bulb was 
>> burned out, I thought I had some but didn’t find any. The fixture is cheap 
>> enough on eBay or AliExpress. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Jul 24, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If it uses taillight socket arrangements similar to the W210 there’s a 
>>> good chance t’s just corrosion.
>>> 
>>> Youngest son’s 2002 E320 has a reverse light in the trunk lid that is 
>>> intermittent. I’ve tinkered with it numerous times and no matter what I do 
>>> it seems to have a life of it’s own. New lamp, cleaned the contacts, etc., 
>>> etc. Just a lousy design.
>>> 
>>> Headlight squirters in later models seem to be a failed effort to clean the 
>>> headlights. I’m not sure that they’re effective, at all.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jul 22, 2022, at 7:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 There is a pneumatic pump that both blows and sucks to open/close the 
 doors and trunk. German electromechanical engineering at its finest. 20A 
 fuse was blown. It was working then it quit so a new fuse cured it. The 
 key fob now opens and closes doors and opens trunk. (I need to order a new 
 fob shell as this one is worn out).  I used the blade key earlier to open 
 driver door at Costco which of course set off the alarm which was loud as 
 hell. I should kill that thing. 
 
 BTW I ordered a 250 piece fuse kit off Amazon that showed up just before I 
 started this job (which was somewhat contorted because I had locked the 
 passenger door and the fuse panel is behind the passenger seat under the 
 rear seat and I had to climb in from the driver side, it is tight in the 
 back) so I could CHANGE THE FUSE. the kit has a bunch of the bigger blade 
 fuses and the smaller ones in various sizes. Should keep me going for 
 awhile. It was not expensive, good to have around in the tool kit. 
 
 I’m getting error messages for lights, some of which appear to be working. 
 H. Some for bulbs in the tail lights which are not intuitively 
 removable. I’ll have to research that. Also says a low beam headlight but 
 it is working. I wonder if someone put in some funky bulbs. And the switch 
 must be a replacement as it does not pull out for fogs and rear bright 
 taillight. Weird. 
 
 This car has headlight squirters that appear to be more like car wash 
 sprayers. I think the nozzles are buggered up as they sprayed the hood and 
 fenders. Not that I need them but interesting feature. 
 
 --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Well that was easy — locks on CL500

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

DRL - daytime running lights. Required by law in Canadia. And yes, you can 
disable them with SDS.

-D

> On Jul 24, 2022, at 5:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The headlights are the kind that come on when the car is on. What’s that 
> callEd, DRO or DRL or something?  I think they might either be some super 
> bright bulbs as they look kinda blue or LEDs that are causing a fault. But 
> they work. I’ll leave good enough alone. 
> 
> I’ll have to look and see if I can shut that always-on “feature” off with the 
> fancy computer. It annoys me. 
> 
> I’ll dig into the taillights at some point and figure out how to remove them. 
>  The RF corner marker fixture in the bumper is broken and the bulb was burned 
> out, I thought I had some but didn’t find any. The fixture is cheap enough on 
> eBay or AliExpress. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If it uses taillight socket arrangements similar to the W210 there’s a good 
>> chance t’s just corrosion.
>> 
>> Youngest son’s 2002 E320 has a reverse light in the trunk lid that is 
>> intermittent. I’ve tinkered with it numerous times and no matter what I do 
>> it seems to have a life of it’s own. New lamp, cleaned the contacts, etc., 
>> etc. Just a lousy design.
>> 
>> Headlight squirters in later models seem to be a failed effort to clean the 
>> headlights. I’m not sure that they’re effective, at all.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2022, at 7:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is a pneumatic pump that both blows and sucks to open/close the doors 
>>> and trunk. German electromechanical engineering at its finest. 20A fuse was 
>>> blown. It was working then it quit so a new fuse cured it. The key fob now 
>>> opens and closes doors and opens trunk. (I need to order a new fob shell as 
>>> this one is worn out).  I used the blade key earlier to open driver door at 
>>> Costco which of course set off the alarm which was loud as hell. I should 
>>> kill that thing. 
>>> 
>>> BTW I ordered a 250 piece fuse kit off Amazon that showed up just before I 
>>> started this job (which was somewhat contorted because I had locked the 
>>> passenger door and the fuse panel is behind the passenger seat under the 
>>> rear seat and I had to climb in from the driver side, it is tight in the 
>>> back) so I could CHANGE THE FUSE. the kit has a bunch of the bigger blade 
>>> fuses and the smaller ones in various sizes. Should keep me going for 
>>> awhile. It was not expensive, good to have around in the tool kit. 
>>> 
>>> I’m getting error messages for lights, some of which appear to be working. 
>>> H. Some for bulbs in the tail lights which are not intuitively 
>>> removable. I’ll have to research that. Also says a low beam headlight but 
>>> it is working. I wonder if someone put in some funky bulbs. And the switch 
>>> must be a replacement as it does not pull out for fogs and rear bright 
>>> taillight. Weird. 
>>> 
>>> This car has headlight squirters that appear to be more like car wash 
>>> sprayers. I think the nozzles are buggered up as they sprayed the hood and 
>>> fenders. Not that I need them but interesting feature. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Well that was easy — locks on CL500

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The headlights are the kind that come on when the car is on. What’s that 
callEd, DRO or DRL or something?  I think they might either be some super 
bright bulbs as they look kinda blue or LEDs that are causing a fault. But they 
work. I’ll leave good enough alone. 

I’ll have to look and see if I can shut that always-on “feature” off with the 
fancy computer. It annoys me. 

I’ll dig into the taillights at some point and figure out how to remove them.  
The RF corner marker fixture in the bumper is broken and the bulb was burned 
out, I thought I had some but didn’t find any. The fixture is cheap enough on 
eBay or AliExpress. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jul 24, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If it uses taillight socket arrangements similar to the W210 there’s a good 
> chance t’s just corrosion.
> 
> Youngest son’s 2002 E320 has a reverse light in the trunk lid that is 
> intermittent. I’ve tinkered with it numerous times and no matter what I do it 
> seems to have a life of it’s own. New lamp, cleaned the contacts, etc., etc. 
> Just a lousy design.
> 
> Headlight squirters in later models seem to be a failed effort to clean the 
> headlights. I’m not sure that they’re effective, at all.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2022, at 7:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There is a pneumatic pump that both blows and sucks to open/close the doors 
>> and trunk. German electromechanical engineering at its finest. 20A fuse was 
>> blown. It was working then it quit so a new fuse cured it. The key fob now 
>> opens and closes doors and opens trunk. (I need to order a new fob shell as 
>> this one is worn out).  I used the blade key earlier to open driver door at 
>> Costco which of course set off the alarm which was loud as hell. I should 
>> kill that thing. 
>> 
>> BTW I ordered a 250 piece fuse kit off Amazon that showed up just before I 
>> started this job (which was somewhat contorted because I had locked the 
>> passenger door and the fuse panel is behind the passenger seat under the 
>> rear seat and I had to climb in from the driver side, it is tight in the 
>> back) so I could CHANGE THE FUSE. the kit has a bunch of the bigger blade 
>> fuses and the smaller ones in various sizes. Should keep me going for 
>> awhile. It was not expensive, good to have around in the tool kit. 
>> 
>> I’m getting error messages for lights, some of which appear to be working. 
>> H. Some for bulbs in the tail lights which are not intuitively 
>> removable. I’ll have to research that. Also says a low beam headlight but it 
>> is working. I wonder if someone put in some funky bulbs. And the switch must 
>> be a replacement as it does not pull out for fogs and rear bright taillight. 
>> Weird. 
>> 
>> This car has headlight squirters that appear to be more like car wash 
>> sprayers. I think the nozzles are buggered up as they sprayed the hood and 
>> fenders. Not that I need them but interesting feature. 
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Well that was easy — locks on CL500

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

If it uses taillight socket arrangements similar to the W210 there’s a good 
chance t’s just corrosion.

Youngest son’s 2002 E320 has a reverse light in the trunk lid that is 
intermittent. I’ve tinkered with it numerous times and no matter what I do it 
seems to have a life of it’s own. New lamp, cleaned the contacts, etc., etc. 
Just a lousy design.

Headlight squirters in later models seem to be a failed effort to clean the 
headlights. I’m not sure that they’re effective, at all.

-D

> On Jul 22, 2022, at 7:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is a pneumatic pump that both blows and sucks to open/close the doors 
> and trunk. German electromechanical engineering at its finest. 20A fuse was 
> blown. It was working then it quit so a new fuse cured it. The key fob now 
> opens and closes doors and opens trunk. (I need to order a new fob shell as 
> this one is worn out).  I used the blade key earlier to open driver door at 
> Costco which of course set off the alarm which was loud as hell. I should 
> kill that thing. 
> 
> BTW I ordered a 250 piece fuse kit off Amazon that showed up just before I 
> started this job (which was somewhat contorted because I had locked the 
> passenger door and the fuse panel is behind the passenger seat under the rear 
> seat and I had to climb in from the driver side, it is tight in the back) so 
> I could CHANGE THE FUSE. the kit has a bunch of the bigger blade fuses and 
> the smaller ones in various sizes. Should keep me going for awhile. It was 
> not expensive, good to have around in the tool kit. 
> 
> I’m getting error messages for lights, some of which appear to be working. 
> H. Some for bulbs in the tail lights which are not intuitively removable. 
> I’ll have to research that. Also says a low beam headlight but it is working. 
> I wonder if someone put in some funky bulbs. And the switch must be a 
> replacement as it does not pull out for fogs and rear bright taillight. 
> Weird. 
> 
> This car has headlight squirters that appear to be more like car wash 
> sprayers. I think the nozzles are buggered up as they sprayed the hood and 
> fenders. Not that I need them but interesting feature. 
> 
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[MBZ] Well that was easy — locks on CL500

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

There is a pneumatic pump that both blows and sucks to open/close the doors and 
trunk. German electromechanical engineering at its finest. 20A fuse was blown. 
It was working then it quit so a new fuse cured it. The key fob now opens and 
closes doors and opens trunk. (I need to order a new fob shell as this one is 
worn out).  I used the blade key earlier to open driver door at Costco which of 
course set off the alarm which was loud as hell. I should kill that thing. 

BTW I ordered a 250 piece fuse kit off Amazon that showed up just before I 
started this job (which was somewhat contorted because I had locked the 
passenger door and the fuse panel is behind the passenger seat under the rear 
seat and I had to climb in from the driver side, it is tight in the back) so I 
could CHANGE THE FUSE. the kit has a bunch of the bigger blade fuses and the 
smaller ones in various sizes. Should keep me going for awhile. It was not 
expensive, good to have around in the tool kit. 

I’m getting error messages for lights, some of which appear to be working. 
H. Some for bulbs in the tail lights which are not intuitively removable. 
I’ll have to research that. Also says a low beam headlight but it is working. I 
wonder if someone put in some funky bulbs. And the switch must be a replacement 
as it does not pull out for fogs and rear bright taillight. Weird. 

This car has headlight squirters that appear to be more like car wash sprayers. 
I think the nozzles are buggered up as they sprayed the hood and fenders. Not 
that I need them but interesting feature. 

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Re: [MBZ] Well hell

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I probably should. I like mob stories and documentaries. I watched the Michael 
Franzese and Sammy Gravano podcasts on YouTube until they started to get 
repetitive.

I just haven't taken the time for movies in years. I did like Goodfellas and 
Casino though. For whatever reason, never watched any of the Godfather movies.


On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> You really should watch the original Godfather movie.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 08/07/2022 12:02 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> LOL. Nope, haven't see either one.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, at 6:56 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Or Elf?
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
 On Jul 7, 2022, at 10:58 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:

 A human who has not seen The Godfather?

 AZBob

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> On Jul 7, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Did a quick review of his Wikipedia page, don't think I've seen any of 
> his movies. Guess that shows I don't watch movies much.
>
>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022, at 7:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I guess James Caan died yesterday.
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Well hell

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

And Elf for the feel good holiday vibe. And for Will Ferrell’s over the top 
performance which he has refused to reprise despite being offered major $$ to 
do so.

-D

> On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You really should watch the original Godfather movie.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> On 08/07/2022 12:02 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> LOL. Nope, haven't see either one.
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, at 6:56 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Or Elf?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jul 7, 2022, at 10:58 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 A human who has not seen The Godfather?
 
 AZBob
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 7, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did a quick review of his Wikipedia page, don't think I've seen any of 
> his movies. Guess that shows I don't watch movies much.
> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022, at 7:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I guess James Caan died yesterday.
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Well hell

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

You really should watch the original Godfather movie.

Randy


On 08/07/2022 12:02 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

LOL. Nope, haven't see either one.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, at 6:56 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Or Elf?

-D


On Jul 7, 2022, at 10:58 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

A human who has not seen The Godfather?

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 7, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

Did a quick review of his Wikipedia page, don't think I've seen any of his 
movies. Guess that shows I don't watch movies much.


On Thu, Jul 7, 2022, at 7:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I guess James Caan died yesterday.




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Re: [MBZ] Well hell

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

LOL. Nope, haven't see either one.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, at 6:56 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Or Elf?
>
> -D
>
>> On Jul 7, 2022, at 10:58 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A human who has not seen The Godfather? 
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did a quick review of his Wikipedia page, don't think I've seen any of his 
>>> movies. Guess that shows I don't watch movies much.
>>> 
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022, at 7:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 I guess James Caan died yesterday.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Well hell

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Or Elf?

-D

> On Jul 7, 2022, at 10:58 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A human who has not seen The Godfather? 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 7, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Did a quick review of his Wikipedia page, don't think I've seen any of his 
>> movies. Guess that shows I don't watch movies much.
>> 
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>>> I guess James Caan died yesterday.
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Re: [MBZ] Well hell

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

A human who has not seen The Godfather? 

AZBob

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> On Jul 7, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
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> 
> Did a quick review of his Wikipedia page, don't think I've seen any of his 
> movies. Guess that shows I don't watch movies much.
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022, at 7:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Well hell

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Did a quick review of his Wikipedia page, don't think I've seen any of his 
movies. Guess that shows I don't watch movies much.

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[MBZ] Well hell

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I guess James Caan died yesterday.

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[MBZ] Well broken in 123 wagon on MB Market

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sort of like a pair of old shoes with worn out heels but hey, they are now
iconic so open your wallet.

https://thembmarket.com/1982-mercedes-benz-300td
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Re: [MBZ] Well maintained/restored '83 300D on BAT

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

sold for 6500

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> Might go cheaply, due I guess to high mileage.  Might be a rewarding and
> affordable diesel for someone on this list.
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo-36/
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[MBZ] Well maintained/restored '83 300D on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Might go cheaply, due I guess to high mileage.  Might be a rewarding and
affordable diesel for someone on this list.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo-36/
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[MBZ] Well cared for car that belonged to a meticulous owner. Mercedes Benz 560 SEL - $11, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Might be in decent shape but BO-RING

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-mercedes-benz-560-sel/7432030607.html

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[MBZ] Well okeydokey then -- 2005 Mercedes-Benz C-Class C 320 Sedan 4D, $3, 900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's certainly... unique

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/412395330488840

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Re: [MBZ] Well it’s done

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

I'm on the three-year plan, myself.  Ah, well.

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Well it’s done

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I went for my second (10 year interval) earlier this year. They found one polyp 
that was benign and told me I have to come back every three years now. Looking 
forward to it, for sure. Beats being on the wrong side of the dirt, however.

-D

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> No issues go back in 10 years 
> 
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[MBZ] Well it’s done

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

No issues go back in 10 years 

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Re: [MBZ] Well I went off and bought these

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

looks good
 congratulations

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> farm. The previous owners died 25 years ago and all their kids have died
> since except for one son. He sold it to the new owners as is and didn’t
> want any of the contents. These 2 cars were sitting in the barn for the
> last 25 years. Supposedly the red 300d ran when parked. The 220d supposedly
> had the engine rebuilt not long before it was parked.  The 300D had some
> minor rust but the 220d is mostly rust free. Got them for $500 on a
> handshake deal. They gave me the keys and I will come back next week to pay
> and pick them up. I’m local and I guess they were getting flooded with
> crazy people from California.
>
> 1976 Mercedes-Benz 1969 Mercedes
>
>
> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/pts/d/bartlesville-1976-mercedes-benz-1969/7412726474.html
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Re: [MBZ] Well I went off and bought these

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Easily worth $25K each on BAT once they're through the carwash.

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> These are total barn finds. Story is these people bought this 180 acre
> farm. The previous owners died 25 years ago and all their kids have died
> since except for one son. He sold it to the new owners as is and didn’t
> want any of the contents. These 2 cars were sitting in the barn for the
> last 25 years. Supposedly the red 300d ran when parked. The 220d supposedly
> had the engine rebuilt not long before it was parked.  The 300D had some
> minor rust but the 220d is mostly rust free. Got them for $500 on a
> handshake deal. They gave me the keys and I will come back next week to pay
> and pick them up. I’m local and I guess they were getting flooded with
> crazy people from California.
>
> 1976 Mercedes-Benz 1969 Mercedes
>
>
> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/pts/d/bartlesville-1976-mercedes-benz-1969/7412726474.html
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[MBZ] Well I went off and bought these

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

These are total barn finds. Story is these people bought this 180 acre farm. 
The previous owners died 25 years ago and all their kids have died since except 
for one son. He sold it to the new owners as is and didn’t want any of the 
contents. These 2 cars were sitting in the barn for the last 25 years. 
Supposedly the red 300d ran when parked. The 220d supposedly had the engine 
rebuilt not long before it was parked.  The 300D had some minor rust but the 
220d is mostly rust free. Got them for $500 on a handshake deal. They gave me 
the keys and I will come back next week to pay and pick them up. I’m local and 
I guess they were getting flooded with crazy people from California. 

1976 Mercedes-Benz 1969 Mercedes

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[MBZ] Well bought '87 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-mercedes-benz-300td-22/
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Re: [MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Just don’t try to go to B&H on Saturday…

Canal Street can be cool, as is the diamond district. Just a cool place to see 
the people and surrounds.

-D

> On Aug 10, 2021, at 7:59 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess it depends what kind of experience you want to get.  The tourist
> stuff is all there and well known.  Going to the top of building is cool,
> but once you go up one you've seen them all.
> 
> You can really absorb so much of the city by just walking around, sitting
> outside and eating a meal, and visiting some museums.  Goto a show or
> something.  Visit B&H photo.  All stuff new yorkers do.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 7:39 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Just a quick check of some of these observation deck at the top of these
>> building, some of them seem pricey.
>> 
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>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Best time of year to see NYC is late January or early Feb, if you don't
>>> mind the snow.  I remember Janet and I were walking around one cold night
>>> (back when she lived there before we were married) and we walked by
>>> Rockefeller plaza.  Some guy at the door was announcing there was no line
>>> and no wait to goto the top of the building, so we went.  Walked right
>> into
>>> the elevator and up to the top.  Cool experience without any tourists.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:05 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 It could be the times or it could be the kind of idiots you get in those
 groups.
 I think the best time to see Times Square is about 6am. Get coffee from
>> a
 cart and just sit around and watch. Better around Christmas...
 Curt
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   I’m in a Fakebook Hilton group and
>> asked
 about places to stay and most locals say to avoid the Times Square area
 especially after dark as there is a lot of crime there right now. So
>> hell I
 don’t know. Some of them also say that the millennium Hilton is a dump.
>> I
 will just pick something and can ride the subway up there during the
>> day if
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>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Curt Raymond 
>> wrote:
> 
> Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in
 Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
> 
> I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which
 puts you in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to
>> the
 north and the Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday
 Inn express around there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too
 badly when you see Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night
 but that was a week the UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go
>> walk
 the Highline, I bet the flowers are nice this time of year.
> 
> LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there.
 It's not a bad airport though.
> 
> To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it
 was. It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards.
>> Stick
 to the touristy areas and nobody will bother you.
> 
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> For my weekend I’m thinking about moving to the Hilton that is close to
 the WTC/ground zero area. Got to thinking, how expensive and how would
>> it
 take to take a cab/Uber from here to the dealership in the Bay Ridge
>> area?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2
 tickets out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until
>> Monday so
 I can enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy
>> tickets
 for the wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this
>> case
 was LGA.
>> 
>> I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday,
 and will book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly
 relocate to a different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look
 at? Perhap Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any
 ferries that go across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure
>> the
 wife and kid will ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit
>> at
 hotel. After I’m done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably
>> just
 take a cab to and from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around.
>> If
 we do relocate hotels Friday, will probably hav

Re: [MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I guess it depends what kind of experience you want to get.  The tourist
stuff is all there and well known.  Going to the top of building is cool,
but once you go up one you've seen them all.

You can really absorb so much of the city by just walking around, sitting
outside and eating a meal, and visiting some museums.  Goto a show or
something.  Visit B&H photo.  All stuff new yorkers do.

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 7:39 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just a quick check of some of these observation deck at the top of these
> building, some of them seem pricey.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:35 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Best time of year to see NYC is late January or early Feb, if you don't
> > mind the snow.  I remember Janet and I were walking around one cold night
> > (back when she lived there before we were married) and we walked by
> > Rockefeller plaza.  Some guy at the door was announcing there was no line
> > and no wait to goto the top of the building, so we went.  Walked right
> into
> > the elevator and up to the top.  Cool experience without any tourists.
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:05 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It could be the times or it could be the kind of idiots you get in those
> >> groups.
> >> I think the best time to see Times Square is about 6am. Get coffee from
> a
> >> cart and just sit around and watch. Better around Christmas...
> >> Curt
> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >>
> >>  On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 4:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes<
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   I’m in a Fakebook Hilton group and
> asked
> >> about places to stay and most locals say to avoid the Times Square area
> >> especially after dark as there is a lot of crime there right now. So
> hell I
> >> don’t know. Some of them also say that the millennium Hilton is a dump.
> I
> >> will just pick something and can ride the subway up there during the
> day if
> >> need be.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
>  On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in
> >> Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
> >>>
> >>> I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which
> >> puts you in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to
> the
> >> north and the Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday
> >> Inn express around there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too
> >> badly when you see Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night
> >> but that was a week the UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go
> walk
> >> the Highline, I bet the flowers are nice this time of year.
> >>>
> >>> LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there.
> >> It's not a bad airport though.
> >>>
> >>> To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it
> >> was. It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards.
> Stick
> >> to the touristy areas and nobody will bother you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Curt
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> For my weekend I’m thinking about moving to the Hilton that is close to
> >> the WTC/ground zero area. Got to thinking, how expensive and how would
> it
> >> take to take a cab/Uber from here to the dealership in the Bay Ridge
> area?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
> wrote:
> 
>  Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2
> >> tickets out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until
> Monday so
> >> I can enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy
> tickets
> >> for the wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this
> case
> >> was LGA.
> 
>  I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday,
> >> and will book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly
> >> relocate to a different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look
> >> at? Perhap Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any
> >> ferries that go across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure
> the
> >> wife and kid will ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit
> at
> >> hotel. After I’m done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably
> just
> >> take a cab to and from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around.
> If
> >> we do relocate hotels Friday, will probably have the wife haul the bags
> to
> >> the new place while I’m at work.
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Just a quick check of some of these observation deck at the top of these 
building, some of them seem pricey. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:35 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Best time of year to see NYC is late January or early Feb, if you don't
> mind the snow.  I remember Janet and I were walking around one cold night
> (back when she lived there before we were married) and we walked by
> Rockefeller plaza.  Some guy at the door was announcing there was no line
> and no wait to goto the top of the building, so we went.  Walked right into
> the elevator and up to the top.  Cool experience without any tourists.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:05 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It could be the times or it could be the kind of idiots you get in those
>> groups.
>> I think the best time to see Times Square is about 6am. Get coffee from a
>> cart and just sit around and watch. Better around Christmas...
>> Curt
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>  On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 4:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes<
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   I’m in a Fakebook Hilton group and asked
>> about places to stay and most locals say to avoid the Times Square area
>> especially after dark as there is a lot of crime there right now. So hell I
>> don’t know. Some of them also say that the millennium Hilton is a dump. I
>> will just pick something and can ride the subway up there during the day if
>> need be.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in
>> Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
>>> 
>>> I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which
>> puts you in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to the
>> north and the Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday
>> Inn express around there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too
>> badly when you see Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night
>> but that was a week the UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go walk
>> the Highline, I bet the flowers are nice this time of year.
>>> 
>>> LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there.
>> It's not a bad airport though.
>>> 
>>> To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it
>> was. It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards. Stick
>> to the touristy areas and nobody will bother you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Curt
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> For my weekend I’m thinking about moving to the Hilton that is close to
>> the WTC/ground zero area. Got to thinking, how expensive and how would it
>> take to take a cab/Uber from here to the dealership in the Bay Ridge area?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
 
 Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2
>> tickets out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday so
>> I can enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy tickets
>> for the wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this case
>> was LGA.
 
 I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday,
>> and will book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly
>> relocate to a different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look
>> at? Perhap Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any
>> ferries that go across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure the
>> wife and kid will ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit at
>> hotel. After I’m done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably just
>> take a cab to and from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around. If
>> we do relocate hotels Friday, will probably have the wife haul the bags to
>> the new place while I’m at work.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Best time of year to see NYC is late January or early Feb, if you don't
mind the snow.  I remember Janet and I were walking around one cold night
(back when she lived there before we were married) and we walked by
Rockefeller plaza.  Some guy at the door was announcing there was no line
and no wait to goto the top of the building, so we went.  Walked right into
the elevator and up to the top.  Cool experience without any tourists.


On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:05 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It could be the times or it could be the kind of idiots you get in those
> groups.
> I think the best time to see Times Square is about 6am. Get coffee from a
> cart and just sit around and watch. Better around Christmas...
> Curt
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 4:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   I’m in a Fakebook Hilton group and asked
> about places to stay and most locals say to avoid the Times Square area
> especially after dark as there is a lot of crime there right now. So hell I
> don’t know. Some of them also say that the millennium Hilton is a dump. I
> will just pick something and can ride the subway up there during the day if
> need be.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in
> Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
> >
> > I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which
> puts you in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to the
> north and the Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday
> Inn express around there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too
> badly when you see Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night
> but that was a week the UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go walk
> the Highline, I bet the flowers are nice this time of year.
> >
> > LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there.
> It's not a bad airport though.
> >
> > To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it
> was. It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards. Stick
> to the touristy areas and nobody will bother you.
> >
> >
> > Curt
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > For my weekend I’m thinking about moving to the Hilton that is close to
> the WTC/ground zero area. Got to thinking, how expensive and how would it
> take to take a cab/Uber from here to the dealership in the Bay Ridge area?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> > >
> > > Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2
> tickets out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday so
> I can enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy tickets
> for the wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this case
> was LGA.
> > >
> > > I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday,
> and will book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly
> relocate to a different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look
> at? Perhap Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any
> ferries that go across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure the
> wife and kid will ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit at
> hotel. After I’m done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably just
> take a cab to and from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around. If
> we do relocate hotels Friday, will probably have the wife haul the bags to
> the new place while I’m at work.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

It cleaned up a lot from 30 yrs ago but has gone down hill precipitously since 
10 years ago. Garbage everywhere etc. The leadership changed. Need I say more?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 10, 2021, at 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in 
> Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
> I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which puts 
> you in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to the north 
> and the Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday Inn 
> express around there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too badly when 
> you see Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night but that was a 
> week the UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go walk the Highline, I 
> bet the flowers are nice this time of year.
> 
> LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there. It's 
> not a bad airport though.
> To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it was. 
> It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards. Stick to the 
> touristy areas and nobody will bother you.
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
> Mercedes wrote:   For my weekend I’m thinking about 
> moving to the Hilton that is close to the WTC/ground zero area. Got to 
> thinking, how expensive and how would it take to take a cab/Uber from here to 
> the dealership in the Bay Ridge area? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>> 
>> Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2 tickets 
>> out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday so I can 
>> enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy tickets for the 
>> wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this case was LGA.
>> 
>> I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday, and will 
>> book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly relocate to a 
>> different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look at? Perhap 
>> Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any ferries that go 
>> across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure the wife and kid 
>> will ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit at hotel. After 
>> I’m done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably just take a cab to 
>> and from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around. If we do relocate 
>> hotels Friday, will probably have the wife haul the bags to the new place 
>> while I’m at work. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Well it is fakebook, so…

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 10, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> It could be the times or it could be the kind of idiots you get in those 
> groups.
> 
> I think the best time to see Times Square is about 6am. Get coffee from a 
> cart and just sit around and watch. Better around Christmas...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 4:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> I’m in a Fakebook Hilton group and asked about places to stay and most locals 
> say to avoid the Times Square area especially after dark as there is a lot of 
> crime there right now. So hell I don’t know. Some of them also say that the 
> millennium Hilton is a dump. I will just pick something and can ride the 
> subway up there during the day if need be. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> > 
> > Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in 
> > Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
> > 
> > I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which puts 
> > you in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to the north 
> > and the Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday Inn 
> > express around there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too badly 
> > when you see Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night but that 
> > was a week the UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go walk the 
> > Highline, I bet the flowers are nice this time of year.
> > 
> > LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there. It's 
> > not a bad airport though.
> > 
> > To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it was. 
> > It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards. Stick to 
> > the touristy areas and nobody will bother you.
> > 
> > 
> > Curt
> > 
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > For my weekend I’m thinking about moving to the Hilton that is close to the 
> > WTC/ground zero area. Got to thinking, how expensive and how would it take 
> > to take a cab/Uber from here to the dealership in the Bay Ridge area? 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > > On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2 
> > > tickets out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday 
> > > so I can enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy 
> > > tickets for the wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in 
> > > this case was LGA.
> > > 
> > > I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday, and 
> > > will book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly relocate 
> > > to a different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look at? 
> > > Perhap Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any 
> > > ferries that go across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure 
> > > the wife and kid will ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just 
> > > sit at hotel. After I’m done working, we will do the subway thing. 
> > > Probably just take a cab to and from airport so we don’t have to haul 
> > > luggage around. If we do relocate hotels Friday, will probably have the 
> > > wife haul the bags to the new place while I’m at work. 
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It could be the times or it could be the kind of idiots you get in those groups.
I think the best time to see Times Square is about 6am. Get coffee from a cart 
and just sit around and watch. Better around Christmas...
Curt
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 4:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes wrote:   I’m in a Fakebook Hilton group and 
asked about places to stay and most locals say to avoid the Times Square area 
especially after dark as there is a lot of crime there right now. So hell I 
don’t know. Some of them also say that the millennium Hilton is a dump. I will 
just pick something and can ride the subway up there during the day if need be. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in 
> Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
> 
> I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which puts 
> you in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to the north 
> and the Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday Inn 
> express around there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too badly when 
> you see Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night but that was a 
> week the UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go walk the Highline, I 
> bet the flowers are nice this time of year.
> 
> LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there. It's 
> not a bad airport though.
> 
> To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it was. 
> It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards. Stick to the 
> touristy areas and nobody will bother you.
> 
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> For my weekend I’m thinking about moving to the Hilton that is close to the 
> WTC/ground zero area. Got to thinking, how expensive and how would it take to 
> take a cab/Uber from here to the dealership in the Bay Ridge area? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> > 
> > Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2 
> > tickets out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday so 
> > I can enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy tickets 
> > for the wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this case 
> > was LGA.
> > 
> > I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday, and 
> > will book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly relocate to 
> > a different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look at? Perhap 
> > Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any ferries that 
> > go across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure the wife and kid 
> > will ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit at hotel. After 
> > I’m done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably just take a cab to 
> > and from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around. If we do relocate 
> > hotels Friday, will probably have the wife haul the bags to the new place 
> > while I’m at work. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I spent 2 weeks in Manhattan teaching at HBO a couple years ago. Ran the 
Highline every couple days.

Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   Curt's recommendation of walking the 
high line (in Manhattan) is a good one.  Stop in at Chelsea market for an 
overpriced fancy foo foo lunch while you are there.

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Re: [MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I’m in a Fakebook Hilton group and asked about places to stay and most locals 
say to avoid the Times Square area especially after dark as there is a lot of 
crime there right now. So hell I don’t know. Some of them also say that the 
millennium Hilton is a dump. I will just pick something and can ride the subway 
up there during the day if need be. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in 
> Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
> 
> I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which puts 
> you in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to the north 
> and the Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday Inn 
> express around there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too badly when 
> you see Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night but that was a 
> week the UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go walk the Highline, I 
> bet the flowers are nice this time of year.
> 
> LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there. It's 
> not a bad airport though.
> 
> To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it was. 
> It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards. Stick to the 
> touristy areas and nobody will bother you.
> 
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> For my weekend I’m thinking about moving to the Hilton that is close to the 
> WTC/ground zero area. Got to thinking, how expensive and how would it take to 
> take a cab/Uber from here to the dealership in the Bay Ridge area? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> > 
> > Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2 
> > tickets out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday so 
> > I can enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy tickets 
> > for the wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this case 
> > was LGA.
> > 
> > I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday, and 
> > will book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly relocate to 
> > a different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look at? Perhap 
> > Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any ferries that 
> > go across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure the wife and kid 
> > will ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit at hotel. After 
> > I’m done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably just take a cab to 
> > and from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around. If we do relocate 
> > hotels Friday, will probably have the wife haul the bags to the new place 
> > while I’m at work. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Curt's recommendation of walking the high line (in Manhattan) is a good one.  
Stop in at Chelsea market for an overpriced fancy foo foo lunch while you are 
there.

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Re: [MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Also, look for :
 The *Outdoor Co-ed Topless Pulp Fiction Appreciation Society* was a group
of several dozen women and a few men that had, since August 17, 2011,[1]

organized regular gatherings around New York City
, meeting to read and discuss
books in public while topless.[2]

[3]

The primary objective of the group, besides enjoying the sun and book
reading, was to create awareness that New York law allows toplessness
 in public, and to change social
attitudes to the exposure of women's breasts. The group's blog had reported
that there had been no harassment of the participants by the police
, and very
rarely by the public.

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 10:37 AM OK Don  wrote:

> I don't remember where they are relative to anything else, but with the
> subway it really doesn't matter much - see the Museum of Natural History,
> the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Guggenhiem, Central Park North for the
> gardens, Zabar's, ride the Staten Island Ferry (it was free).
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 9:07 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>>  Thats a pretty okay hotel. It's an easy walk to 30 Rock and the Empire
>> State building. A longish walk to Times Square, pretty far to the 911
>> memorial.
>> There is a diner between there and the Empire State that I used to go to.
>> Old school, big menu, good food, small money. I can't find it on Google
>> Maps, it's been a long time since I've been there.
>> Another thing you might check out, try to be at B&H Photo (33rd & 9th) at
>> maybe 4:30 on Friday. The place is run by Hasidic Jews, they close at sun
>> down on Friday which, at least in the 90s when I went there "Put down the
>> items and leave now." It was pretty funny to watch people who didn't know
>> what was going on.
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021, 9:45:59 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>
>>  Speaking of UN, what about that Hilton right by the UN, or is that still
>> a long way away from everything?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> >
>> > Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in
>> Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
>> >
>> > I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which
>> puts you in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to the
>> north and the Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday
>> Inn express around there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too
>> badly when you see Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night
>> but that was a week the UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go walk
>> the Highline, I bet the flowers are nice this time of year.
>> >
>> > LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there.
>> It's not a bad airport though.
>> >
>> > To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it
>> was. It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards. Stick
>> to the touristy areas and nobody will bother you.
>> >
>> >
>> > Curt
>> >
>> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> >  wrote:
>> > For my weekend I’m thinking about moving to the Hilton that is close to
>> the WTC/ground zero area. Got to thinking, how expensive and how would it
>> take to take a cab/Uber from here to the dealership in the Bay Ridge area?
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > > On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2
>> tickets out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday so
>> I can enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy tickets
>> for the wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this case
>> was LGA.
>> > >
>> > > I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday,
>> and will book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly
>> relocate to a different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look
>> at? Perhap Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any
>> ferries that go across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure the
>> wife and kid will ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit at
>> hotel. After I’m done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably just
>> take a cab to and from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around. If
>> we do relocate hotels Friday, will probably have the w

Re: [MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I don't remember where they are relative to anything else, but with the
subway it really doesn't matter much - see the Museum of Natural History,
the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Guggenhiem, Central Park North for the
gardens, Zabar's, ride the Staten Island Ferry (it was free).

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 9:07 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Thats a pretty okay hotel. It's an easy walk to 30 Rock and the Empire
> State building. A longish walk to Times Square, pretty far to the 911
> memorial.
> There is a diner between there and the Empire State that I used to go to.
> Old school, big menu, good food, small money. I can't find it on Google
> Maps, it's been a long time since I've been there.
> Another thing you might check out, try to be at B&H Photo (33rd & 9th) at
> maybe 4:30 on Friday. The place is run by Hasidic Jews, they close at sun
> down on Friday which, at least in the 90s when I went there "Put down the
> items and leave now." It was pretty funny to watch people who didn't know
> what was going on.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021, 9:45:59 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  Speaking of UN, what about that Hilton right by the UN, or is that still
> a long way away from everything?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in
> Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
> >
> > I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which
> puts you in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to the
> north and the Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday
> Inn express around there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too
> badly when you see Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night
> but that was a week the UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go walk
> the Highline, I bet the flowers are nice this time of year.
> >
> > LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there.
> It's not a bad airport though.
> >
> > To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it
> was. It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards. Stick
> to the touristy areas and nobody will bother you.
> >
> >
> > Curt
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > For my weekend I’m thinking about moving to the Hilton that is close to
> the WTC/ground zero area. Got to thinking, how expensive and how would it
> take to take a cab/Uber from here to the dealership in the Bay Ridge area?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> > >
> > > Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2
> tickets out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday so
> I can enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy tickets
> for the wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this case
> was LGA.
> > >
> > > I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday,
> and will book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly
> relocate to a different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look
> at? Perhap Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any
> ferries that go across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure the
> wife and kid will ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit at
> hotel. After I’m done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably just
> take a cab to and from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around. If
> we do relocate hotels Friday, will probably have the wife haul the bags to
> the new place while I’m at work.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Thats a pretty okay hotel. It's an easy walk to 30 Rock and the Empire State 
building. A longish walk to Times Square, pretty far to the 911 memorial.
There is a diner between there and the Empire State that I used to go to. Old 
school, big menu, good food, small money. I can't find it on Google Maps, it's 
been a long time since I've been there.
Another thing you might check out, try to be at B&H Photo (33rd & 9th) at maybe 
4:30 on Friday. The place is run by Hasidic Jews, they close at sun down on 
Friday which, at least in the 90s when I went there "Put down the items and 
leave now." It was pretty funny to watch people who didn't know what was going 
on. 

-Curt

On Tuesday, August 10, 2021, 9:45:59 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Speaking of UN, what about that Hilton right by the UN, or is that still a 
long way away from everything?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in 
> Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
> 
> I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which puts 
> you in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to the north 
> and the Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday Inn 
> express around there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too badly when 
> you see Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night but that was a 
> week the UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go walk the Highline, I 
> bet the flowers are nice this time of year.
> 
> LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there. It's 
> not a bad airport though.
> 
> To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it was. 
> It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards. Stick to the 
> touristy areas and nobody will bother you.
> 
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> For my weekend I’m thinking about moving to the Hilton that is close to the 
> WTC/ground zero area. Got to thinking, how expensive and how would it take to 
> take a cab/Uber from here to the dealership in the Bay Ridge area? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> > 
> > Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2 
> > tickets out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday so 
> > I can enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy tickets 
> > for the wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this case 
> > was LGA.
> > 
> > I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday, and 
> > will book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly relocate to 
> > a different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look at? Perhap 
> > Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any ferries that 
> > go across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure the wife and kid 
> > will ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit at hotel. After 
> > I’m done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably just take a cab to 
> > and from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around. If we do relocate 
> > hotels Friday, will probably have the wife haul the bags to the new place 
> > while I’m at work. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Speaking of UN, what about that Hilton right by the UN, or is that still a long 
way away from everything?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in 
> Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
> 
> I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which puts 
> you in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to the north 
> and the Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday Inn 
> express around there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too badly when 
> you see Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night but that was a 
> week the UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go walk the Highline, I 
> bet the flowers are nice this time of year.
> 
> LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there. It's 
> not a bad airport though.
> 
> To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it was. 
> It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards. Stick to the 
> touristy areas and nobody will bother you.
> 
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> For my weekend I’m thinking about moving to the Hilton that is close to the 
> WTC/ground zero area. Got to thinking, how expensive and how would it take to 
> take a cab/Uber from here to the dealership in the Bay Ridge area? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> > 
> > Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2 
> > tickets out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday so 
> > I can enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy tickets 
> > for the wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this case 
> > was LGA.
> > 
> > I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday, and 
> > will book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly relocate to 
> > a different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look at? Perhap 
> > Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any ferries that 
> > go across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure the wife and kid 
> > will ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit at hotel. After 
> > I’m done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably just take a cab to 
> > and from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around. If we do relocate 
> > hotels Friday, will probably have the wife haul the bags to the new place 
> > while I’m at work. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> 
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Probably $50. I took a cab once from Penn station to sheepshead bay in 
Brooklyn, $90 and a long ride.
I would recommend you go a little farther uptown, 30th st or so which puts you 
in walking distance of Times Square and Rockefeller Center to the north and the 
Sept 11 memorial to the south. I used to stay in a Holiday Inn express around 
there. It's a pretty good good hotel, don't gag too badly when you see 
Manhattan prices, the most I ever paid was $700/night but that was a week the 
UN was in town. If you do stay in that area go walk the Highline, I bet the 
flowers are nice this time of year.

LGA is run down, or it was a couple years ago when I last went there. It's not 
a bad airport though.
To anybody who hasn't been in NYC in 30 years, this is not the city it was. 
It's cleaned up a lot and is pretty safe by big city standards. Stick to the 
touristy areas and nobody will bother you.

Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes wrote:   For my weekend I’m thinking about 
moving to the Hilton that is close to the WTC/ground zero area. Got to 
thinking, how expensive and how would it take to take a cab/Uber from here to 
the dealership in the Bay Ridge area? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2 tickets 
> out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday so I can 
> enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy tickets for the 
> wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this case was LGA.
> 
> I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday, and will 
> book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly relocate to a 
> different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look at? Perhap 
> Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any ferries that go 
> across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure the wife and kid will 
> ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit at hotel. After I’m 
> done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably just take a cab to and 
> from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around. If we do relocate 
> hotels Friday, will probably have the wife haul the bags to the new place 
> while I’m at work. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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For my weekend I’m thinking about moving to the Hilton that is close to the 
WTC/ground zero area. Got to thinking, how expensive and how would it take to 
take a cab/Uber from here to the dealership in the Bay Ridge area? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2 tickets 
> out of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday so I can 
> enjoy some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy tickets for the 
> wife and kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this case was LGA.
> 
> I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday, and will 
> book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly relocate to a 
> different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look at? Perhap 
> Manhattan closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any ferries that go 
> across to them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure the wife and kid will 
> ride the subway around while I’m at work: or just sit at hotel. After I’m 
> done working, we will do the subway thing. Probably just take a cab to and 
> from airport so we don’t have to haul luggage around. If we do relocate 
> hotels Friday, will probably have the wife haul the bags to the new place 
> while I’m at work. 
> 
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[MBZ] Well I’m booked to NYC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Which turned into the kid also wanting to go. So I had to pay for 2 tickets out 
of pocket. This also has turned into me staying until Monday so I can enjoy 
some sight seeing over the weekend. Since I had to buy tickets for the wife and 
kid I went the cheapest route possible, which in this case was LGA.

I have a company paid hotel, Hampton Inn Brooklyn, up until Friday, and will 
book my own reservation Friday thru Monday. Might possibly relocate to a 
different hotel for the weekend? Recommended areas to look at? Perhap Manhattan 
closer to tourist crap? Or stay at same hotel? Any ferries that go across to 
them ride that Staten Island ferry?  I’m sure the wife and kid will ride the 
subway around while I’m at work: or just sit at hotel. After I’m done working, 
we will do the subway thing. Probably just take a cab to and from airport so we 
don’t have to haul luggage around. If we do relocate hotels Friday, will 
probably have the wife haul the bags to the new place while I’m at work. 

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Re: [MBZ] Well loved CD

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes i would say so. I think worth twice that much. Could be a great BAT
flip.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E3204matic
Wickford RI

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> That’s pretty reasonable for a CD in good shape
>
> --FT
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> > On Jul 10, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/seattle-1984-mercedes-benz-300-cd-turbo/7347833805.html
> <
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/seattle-1984-mercedes-benz-300-cd-turbo/7347833805.html
> >
> >
> > Looks nice and cared for.  Price reasonable.
> >
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Well loved CD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Price reflects the unattractive color combination.

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> That’s pretty reasonable for a CD in good shape
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jul 10, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/seattle-1984-mercedes-benz-300-cd-turbo/7347833805.html
> <
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/seattle-1984-mercedes-benz-300-cd-turbo/7347833805.html
> >
> >
> > Looks nice and cared for.  Price reasonable.
> >
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Well loved CD

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That’s pretty reasonable for a CD in good shape 

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> On Jul 10, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/seattle-1984-mercedes-benz-300-cd-turbo/7347833805.html
>  
> 
> 
> Looks nice and cared for.  Price reasonable.  
> 
> Clay
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Well loved CD

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Wow yes that looks really nice. Wish it was closer.

Allan

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> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/seattle-1984-mercedes-benz-300-cd-turbo/7347833805.html
>  
> 
> 
> Looks nice and cared for.  Price reasonable.  
> 
> Clay
> 
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[MBZ] Well loved CD

[Clay via Mercedes]

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/seattle-1984-mercedes-benz-300-cd-turbo/7347833805.html
 


Looks nice and cared for.  Price reasonable.  

Clay


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Re: [MBZ] Well this is unique -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class SLK 230 Roadster 2D, $650

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 11:47:39 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Another reason why I insist on a signed bill of sale.

Here in New Mexico, the plate goes with the person, not the vehicle,
so I keep the plate when I sell a vehicle.

I then tell the MVD I have sold the vehicle and give them the plate,
unless I want to re-use it.


Craig


> > On Apr 5, 2021, at 11:01 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On 2021-04-05 09:45, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >> What's the risk of leaving it open?
> > 
> > Getting sued when 'your' car is involved in a collision.

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Re: [MBZ] Well this is unique -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class SLK 230 Roadster 2D, $650

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Another reason why I insist on a signed bill of sale.

-D

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 11:01 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-04-05 09:45, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> What's the risk of leaving it open?
> 
> Getting sued when 'your' car is involved in a collision.
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Re: [MBZ] Well this is unique -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class SLK 230 Roadster 2D, $650

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On 2021-04-05 09:45, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

What's the risk of leaving it open?


Getting sued when 'your' car is involved in a collision.

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Re: [MBZ] Well this is unique -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class SLK 230 Roadster 2D, $650

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

What's the risk of leaving it open?
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> A good example where it would be ideal to have an open title.
>
> Unless I know the buyer, I won’ t leave a title open. If people want it
> that way, tough beans. It’s only been an issue once that I can recall,
> where a buyer didn’t want me to fully execute the title and I refused. He
> wasn’t happy, but too bad, buddy, I’m not going to do it.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:19 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> >
> >> most states (like Florida) require you to title and register a car
> within 30 days of purchase.
> >
> > They simply don't understand something like buying a car that has
> issues, where you're
> > not sure you're going to fix it or part it out and where you don't have
> time to make that
> > determination immediately.
> >
> > "It wasn't a vehicle until yesterday.  Prior to that it was a very small
> storage shed.
> > I still have 29 days according to your rules."
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Well this is unique -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class SLK 230 Roadster 2D, $650

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

A good example where it would be ideal to have an open title.

Unless I know the buyer, I won’ t leave a title open. If people want it that 
way, tough beans. It’s only been an issue once that I can recall, where a buyer 
didn’t want me to fully execute the title and I refused. He wasn’t happy, but 
too bad, buddy, I’m not going to do it.

-D

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:19 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
>> most states (like Florida) require you to title and register a car within 30 
>> days of purchase.
> 
> They simply don't understand something like buying a car that has issues, 
> where you're
> not sure you're going to fix it or part it out and where you don't have time 
> to make that
> determination immediately.
> 
> "It wasn't a vehicle until yesterday.  Prior to that it was a very small 
> storage shed.
> I still have 29 days according to your rules."
> 
> -- Jim
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Well this is unique -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class SLK 230 Roadster 2D, $650

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> most states (like Florida) require you to title and register a car within 30 
> days of purchase.

They simply don't understand something like buying a car that has issues, where 
you're
not sure you're going to fix it or part it out and where you don't have time to 
make that
determination immediately.

"It wasn't a vehicle until yesterday.  Prior to that it was a very small 
storage shed.
I still have 29 days according to your rules."

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Well this is unique -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class SLK 230 Roadster 2D, $650

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Correct.

The first seller just signed the title and didn’t date it. Thanks for that 
clarification - it shows you have to have some collusion on the seller’s part 
to make it happen, that, or convince them they shouldn’t date it.

-D

> On Apr 4, 2021, at 7:26 PM, greg via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> So did the first seller leave the date blank on the signature line so it
> would appear you just bought it from him? (Otherwise they could see months
> had passed.)
> 
> Greg
> 
>> In Florida, an â?oopen titleâ? is a title held by the seller in the
>> previous ownerâ?Ts name. In other words, I buy a car from you but I never
>> sign the title and register the car. Theoretically, itâ?Ts illegal, as
>> most states (like Florida) require you to title and register a car within
>> 30 days of purchase. They wonâ?Tt come after you, as they have no idea
>> youâ?Tve done it since thereâ?Ts no record of the sale, but when/if you go
>> to title/register the car if your name would come up as the buyer you
>> would get dinged.
>> 
>> The 99 E320 4Matic had an open title. The guy I bought it from had bought
>> it several months before from the original owner. He never registered it
>> or insured it (I assume) as he hadnâ?Tt been driving it. When I titled it
>> the DMV â?osawâ? that it was a purchase from the original owner to me.
>> The flipper I bought it from never played into the transaction. As far as
>> the state knows I bought it from the first owner and was titling it
>> immediately following the purchase.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What's an "open title"?
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 12:01 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 interesting color choice
 
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So did the first seller leave the date blank on the signature line so it
would appear you just bought it from him? (Otherwise they could see months
had passed.)

Greg

> In Florida, an “open title” is a title held by the seller in the
> previous owner’s name. In other words, I buy a car from you but I never
> sign the title and register the car. Theoretically, it’s illegal, as
> most states (like Florida) require you to title and register a car within
> 30 days of purchase. They won’t come after you, as they have no idea
> you’ve done it since there’s no record of the sale, but when/if you go
> to title/register the car if your name would come up as the buyer you
> would get dinged.
>
> The 99 E320 4Matic had an open title. The guy I bought it from had bought
> it several months before from the original owner. He never registered it
> or insured it (I assume) as he hadn’t been driving it. When I titled it
> the DMV “saw” that it was a purchase from the original owner to me.
> The flipper I bought it from never played into the transaction. As far as
> the state knows I bought it from the first owner and was titling it
> immediately following the purchase.
>
> -D
>
>> On Apr 4, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>> What's an "open title"?
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 12:01 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> interesting color choice
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2960595680894058
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Well this is unique -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class SLK 230 Roadster 2D, $650

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

In Florida, an “open title” is a title held by the seller in the previous 
owner’s name. In other words, I buy a car from you but I never sign the title 
and register the car. Theoretically, it’s illegal, as most states (like 
Florida) require you to title and register a car within 30 days of purchase. 
They won’t come after you, as they have no idea you’ve done it since there’s no 
record of the sale, but when/if you go to title/register the car if your name 
would come up as the buyer you would get dinged.

The 99 E320 4Matic had an open title. The guy I bought it from had bought it 
several months before from the original owner. He never registered it or 
insured it (I assume) as he hadn’t been driving it. When I titled it the DMV 
“saw” that it was a purchase from the original owner to me. The flipper I 
bought it from never played into the transaction. As far as the state knows I 
bought it from the first owner and was titling it immediately following the 
purchase.

-D

> On Apr 4, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> What's an "open title"?
> 
> On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 12:01 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> interesting color choice
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2960595680894058
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Well this is unique -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class SLK 230 Roadster 2D, $650

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What's an "open title"?

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> interesting color choice
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2960595680894058
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[MBZ] Well this is unique -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class SLK 230 Roadster 2D, $650

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

interesting color choice

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Re: [MBZ] Well poo $900E500

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

If a W123 is limping something is very wrong. 

AZBob

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> On Mar 31, 2021, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> But it will have 1 million miles to compensate for.
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 4:36 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Nah, it'll sag. A $900 W123 at this point doesn't have any floors...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021, 4:30:10 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel <
>> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> A W123 will NEVER limp.
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 4:29 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I mean, he bought a jalopy and is having problems with it. A $900 W123 is
>> probably going to be a lot worse...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>On Wednesday, March 31, 2021, 4:18:36 PM EDT, Allan Streib via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Your posts are reinforcing more and more my feeling that I should stick
>> with W123s.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> I took off the transmission connector plug today and cleaned it, it was
>> oily which made me think it was goobered up enough that the TCM was not
>> talking to the rest of the nannies.  But alas it was not to be. Was still
>> in limp mode In a short drive after a good cleaning and clearing the codes.
>>> 
>>> It is perplexing why it is an intermittent fault. There was also a code
>> for a solenoid related to the brake. The car is also throwing a code for
>> the SBC accumulator so I’m wondering if that might be making the TCM act
>> up. I need to call the stealer to see if that would be covered under the
>> SBC warranty. If so I can get that fixed by them, if not I’ll buy the $75
>> part and fix it myself.
>>> 
>>> I’m not wanting to tear into the trans yet although it’s not a big deal.
>> Even if I get it sorted I should change the fluid/filter anyway I suppose
>>> 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Well poo $900E500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

But it will have 1 million miles to compensate for.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 4:36 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Nah, it'll sag. A $900 W123 at this point doesn't have any floors...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021, 4:30:10 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> A W123 will NEVER limp.
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 4:29 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  I mean, he bought a jalopy and is having problems with it. A $900 W123 is
> probably going to be a lot worse...
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021, 4:18:36 PM EDT, Allan Streib via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  Your posts are reinforcing more and more my feeling that I should stick
> with W123s.
>
> Allan
>
> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > I took off the transmission connector plug today and cleaned it, it was
> oily which made me think it was goobered up enough that the TCM was not
> talking to the rest of the nannies.  But alas it was not to be. Was still
> in limp mode In a short drive after a good cleaning and clearing the codes.
> >
> > It is perplexing why it is an intermittent fault. There was also a code
> for a solenoid related to the brake. The car is also throwing a code for
> the SBC accumulator so I’m wondering if that might be making the TCM act
> up. I need to call the stealer to see if that would be covered under the
> SBC warranty. If so I can get that fixed by them, if not I’ll buy the $75
> part and fix it myself.
> >
> > I’m not wanting to tear into the trans yet although it’s not a big deal.
> Even if I get it sorted I should change the fluid/filter anyway I suppose
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Well poo $900E500

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Nah, it'll sag. A $900 W123 at this point doesn't have any floors...
-Curt

On Wednesday, March 31, 2021, 4:30:10 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:  
 
 A W123 will NEVER limp.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 4:29 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

 I mean, he bought a jalopy and is having problems with it. A $900 W123 is 
probably going to be a lot worse...
-Curt

    On Wednesday, March 31, 2021, 4:18:36 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 Your posts are reinforcing more and more my feeling that I should stick with 
W123s.

Allan

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:

> I took off the transmission connector plug today and cleaned it, it was oily 
> which made me think it was goobered up enough that the TCM was not talking to 
> the rest of the nannies.  But alas it was not to be. Was still in limp mode 
> In a short drive after a good cleaning and clearing the codes. 
>
> It is perplexing why it is an intermittent fault. There was also a code for a 
> solenoid related to the brake. The car is also throwing a code for the SBC 
> accumulator so I’m wondering if that might be making the TCM act up. I need 
> to call the stealer to see if that would be covered under the SBC warranty. 
> If so I can get that fixed by them, if not I’ll buy the $75 part and fix it 
> myself. 
>
> I’m not wanting to tear into the trans yet although it’s not a big deal. Even 
> if I get it sorted I should change the fluid/filter anyway I suppose 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Well poo $900E500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah right?  The 211s are nice cars but I'm not sure if they are worth 
the bother with all the complex systems that can go bad


I was thinking about the 210 v. 211.  The 210 is OK, quite competent, 
but still a 25yo design.  the 211 is much more refined to where I'm not 
sure how any newer model could be much better, and would be even more 
complicated.


--FT

On 3/31/21 4:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Your posts are reinforcing more and more my feeling that I should stick with 
W123s.

Allan

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:


I took off the transmission connector plug today and cleaned it, it was oily 
which made me think it was goobered up enough that the TCM was not talking to 
the rest of the nannies.  But alas it was not to be. Was still in limp mode In 
a short drive after a good cleaning and clearing the codes.

It is perplexing why it is an intermittent fault. There was also a code for a 
solenoid related to the brake. The car is also throwing a code for the SBC 
accumulator so I’m wondering if that might be making the TCM act up. I need to 
call the stealer to see if that would be covered under the SBC warranty. If so 
I can get that fixed by them, if not I’ll buy the $75 part and fix it myself.

I’m not wanting to tear into the trans yet although it’s not a big deal. Even 
if I get it sorted I should change the fluid/filter anyway I suppose

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Well poo $900E500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

722.9 the TCM is up in the trans as part of the conductor plate, not a 
stand-alone component.  A whole new unit is like $900 and needs to be 
programmed to the car which is doable I guess with the STAR clone. or 
pay the stealer.  I have seen refurbs  or used supposedly paired for 
like $300.  Some places will rebuild the conductor plate for $200-300 
but that is just the solenoid connections not the TCM.  I might need to 
go that route if fixing the brake accumulator doesn't work.


--FT

On 3/31/21 4:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Did you also clean out the transmission module?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 31, 2021, at 3:06 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I took off the transmission connector plug today and cleaned it, it was oily 
which made me think it was goobered up enough that the TCM was not talking to 
the rest of the nannies.  But alas it was not to be. Was still in limp mode In 
a short drive after a good cleaning and clearing the codes.

It is perplexing why it is an intermittent fault. There was also a code for a 
solenoid related to the brake. The car is also throwing a code for the SBC 
accumulator so I’m wondering if that might be making the TCM act up. I need to 
call the stealer to see if that would be covered under the SBC warranty. If so 
I can get that fixed by them, if not I’ll buy the $75 part and fix it myself.

I’m not wanting to tear into the trans yet although it’s not a big deal. Even 
if I get it sorted I should change the fluid/filter anyway I suppose

--FT
Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Well poo $900E500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A W123 will NEVER limp.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 4:29 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I mean, he bought a jalopy and is having problems with it. A $900 W123 is
> probably going to be a lot worse...
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021, 4:18:36 PM EDT, Allan Streib via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  Your posts are reinforcing more and more my feeling that I should stick
> with W123s.
>
> Allan
>
> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > I took off the transmission connector plug today and cleaned it, it was
> oily which made me think it was goobered up enough that the TCM was not
> talking to the rest of the nannies.  But alas it was not to be. Was still
> in limp mode In a short drive after a good cleaning and clearing the codes.
> >
> > It is perplexing why it is an intermittent fault. There was also a code
> for a solenoid related to the brake. The car is also throwing a code for
> the SBC accumulator so I’m wondering if that might be making the TCM act
> up. I need to call the stealer to see if that would be covered under the
> SBC warranty. If so I can get that fixed by them, if not I’ll buy the $75
> part and fix it myself.
> >
> > I’m not wanting to tear into the trans yet although it’s not a big deal.
> Even if I get it sorted I should change the fluid/filter anyway I suppose
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Well poo $900E500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yet... When FLoyd solves his limping problem we will all celebrate.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 4:18 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Your posts are reinforcing more and more my feeling that I should stick
> with W123s.
>
> Allan
>
> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > I took off the transmission connector plug today and cleaned it, it was
> oily which made me think it was goobered up enough that the TCM was not
> talking to the rest of the nannies.  But alas it was not to be. Was still
> in limp mode In a short drive after a good cleaning and clearing the codes.
> >
> > It is perplexing why it is an intermittent fault. There was also a code
> for a solenoid related to the brake. The car is also throwing a code for
> the SBC accumulator so I’m wondering if that might be making the TCM act
> up. I need to call the stealer to see if that would be covered under the
> SBC warranty. If so I can get that fixed by them, if not I’ll buy the $75
> part and fix it myself.
> >
> > I’m not wanting to tear into the trans yet although it’s not a big deal.
> Even if I get it sorted I should change the fluid/filter anyway I suppose
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Well poo $900E500

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I mean, he bought a jalopy and is having problems with it. A $900 W123 is 
probably going to be a lot worse...
-Curt

On Wednesday, March 31, 2021, 4:18:36 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Your posts are reinforcing more and more my feeling that I should stick with 
W123s.

Allan

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:

> I took off the transmission connector plug today and cleaned it, it was oily 
> which made me think it was goobered up enough that the TCM was not talking to 
> the rest of the nannies.  But alas it was not to be. Was still in limp mode 
> In a short drive after a good cleaning and clearing the codes. 
>
> It is perplexing why it is an intermittent fault. There was also a code for a 
> solenoid related to the brake. The car is also throwing a code for the SBC 
> accumulator so I’m wondering if that might be making the TCM act up. I need 
> to call the stealer to see if that would be covered under the SBC warranty. 
> If so I can get that fixed by them, if not I’ll buy the $75 part and fix it 
> myself. 
>
> I’m not wanting to tear into the trans yet although it’s not a big deal. Even 
> if I get it sorted I should change the fluid/filter anyway I suppose 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Well poo $900E500

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Did you also clean out the transmission module?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2021, at 3:06 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I took off the transmission connector plug today and cleaned it, it was oily 
> which made me think it was goobered up enough that the TCM was not talking to 
> the rest of the nannies.  But alas it was not to be. Was still in limp mode 
> In a short drive after a good cleaning and clearing the codes. 
> 
> It is perplexing why it is an intermittent fault. There was also a code for a 
> solenoid related to the brake. The car is also throwing a code for the SBC 
> accumulator so I’m wondering if that might be making the TCM act up. I need 
> to call the stealer to see if that would be covered under the SBC warranty. 
> If so I can get that fixed by them, if not I’ll buy the $75 part and fix it 
> myself. 
> 
> I’m not wanting to tear into the trans yet although it’s not a big deal. Even 
> if I get it sorted I should change the fluid/filter anyway I suppose 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Well poo $900E500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Your posts are reinforcing more and more my feeling that I should stick with 
W123s.

Allan

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:

> I took off the transmission connector plug today and cleaned it, it was oily 
> which made me think it was goobered up enough that the TCM was not talking to 
> the rest of the nannies.  But alas it was not to be. Was still in limp mode 
> In a short drive after a good cleaning and clearing the codes. 
>
> It is perplexing why it is an intermittent fault. There was also a code for a 
> solenoid related to the brake. The car is also throwing a code for the SBC 
> accumulator so I’m wondering if that might be making the TCM act up. I need 
> to call the stealer to see if that would be covered under the SBC warranty. 
> If so I can get that fixed by them, if not I’ll buy the $75 part and fix it 
> myself. 
>
> I’m not wanting to tear into the trans yet although it’s not a big deal. Even 
> if I get it sorted I should change the fluid/filter anyway I suppose 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone

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[MBZ] Well poo $900E500

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I took off the transmission connector plug today and cleaned it, it was oily 
which made me think it was goobered up enough that the TCM was not talking to 
the rest of the nannies.  But alas it was not to be. Was still in limp mode In 
a short drive after a good cleaning and clearing the codes. 

It is perplexing why it is an intermittent fault. There was also a code for a 
solenoid related to the brake. The car is also throwing a code for the SBC 
accumulator so I’m wondering if that might be making the TCM act up. I need to 
call the stealer to see if that would be covered under the SBC warranty. If so 
I can get that fixed by them, if not I’ll buy the $75 part and fix it myself. 

I’m not wanting to tear into the trans yet although it’s not a big deal. Even 
if I get it sorted I should change the fluid/filter anyway I suppose 

--FT
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