Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think cheapskate?

2013-08-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Well that sounds good then, guess all you can do is put your hat in the 
ring and see what happens, personally I would prefer a 420SL, 560 is 
overkilll for places with speed limits.


Hendrik
who has the lowly 6 banger family truck

On 12/08/13 10:19, Dan Penoff wrote:

I have a third generation (yes, that's third!) MB indie in town.  The father 
(still living), two sons and a grandson or two are the business.  They have 
forgotten more than the local stealerships will ever know.  When I had my W112 
the old man used to get the giggles whenever I brought it in, because he knew 
the chassis so well and rarely ever saw them.

I can deal with all of the issues it has, except paint. and to be honest I 
would ignore it.  From what the guy is describing the car sat for an extended 
time under a non-breathable cover in a shaded area (probably a car port.)  This 
will almost always result in the failure of the clear coat, leaving it a milky 
color that won't come out.  No fix for that short of a repaint.

The interior is scary, but color resolution in digital photos is not all that 
great, so I wouldn't worry tht it's as bad as it looks.

Dan

  
On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:



The M117 engine is pretty good, except that the timing chain guides need to 
replaced every now and then.
This is a KE-jetronic (CIS/E) car, maybe the fuel pump relay going wonky?
However it is a reliable system and reasonably simple.
Of concern is the 'corrosion' on the engine, looks like it was near nasty 
stuff, like acid rain.
Hate the colour of the interior, I thought they got rid of those colours back 
in the 70's.
Rust! Like an iceberg, you only see the tip of it and rust repair is expensive.
Yeah basically if that SL was rust free and had no issues then yeah 6-7k is 
about right but not in this state, soft top has tear, seats are dried out.
Looks to me like it was not loved much.
To make this a worthwhile thing, you gotta be able to do the work to get it up 
to a decent standard yourself. How much is a decent paint job these days?
Do you know anything about the KE system? Do you know a good indie who knows 
these cars?

Hendrik
who does not own a SL




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Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think cheapskate?

2013-08-11 Thread Dan Penoff
I have a third generation (yes, that's third!) MB indie in town.  The father 
(still living), two sons and a grandson or two are the business.  They have 
forgotten more than the local stealerships will ever know.  When I had my W112 
the old man used to get the giggles whenever I brought it in, because he knew 
the chassis so well and rarely ever saw them.

I can deal with all of the issues it has, except paint. and to be honest I 
would ignore it.  From what the guy is describing the car sat for an extended 
time under a non-breathable cover in a shaded area (probably a car port.)  This 
will almost always result in the failure of the clear coat, leaving it a milky 
color that won't come out.  No fix for that short of a repaint.

The interior is scary, but color resolution in digital photos is not all that 
great, so I wouldn't worry tht it's as bad as it looks.

Dan

 
On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

> The M117 engine is pretty good, except that the timing chain guides need to 
> replaced every now and then.
> This is a KE-jetronic (CIS/E) car, maybe the fuel pump relay going wonky?
> However it is a reliable system and reasonably simple.
> Of concern is the 'corrosion' on the engine, looks like it was near nasty 
> stuff, like acid rain.
> Hate the colour of the interior, I thought they got rid of those colours back 
> in the 70's.
> Rust! Like an iceberg, you only see the tip of it and rust repair is 
> expensive.
> Yeah basically if that SL was rust free and had no issues then yeah 6-7k is 
> about right but not in this state, soft top has tear, seats are dried out.
> Looks to me like it was not loved much.
> To make this a worthwhile thing, you gotta be able to do the work to get it 
> up to a decent standard yourself. How much is a decent paint job these days?
> Do you know anything about the KE system? Do you know a good indie who knows 
> these cars?
> 
> Hendrik
> who does not own a SL
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think cheapskate?

2013-08-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay
The M117 engine is pretty good, except that the timing chain guides need 
to replaced every now and then.

This is a KE-jetronic (CIS/E) car, maybe the fuel pump relay going wonky?
However it is a reliable system and reasonably simple.
Of concern is the 'corrosion' on the engine, looks like it was near 
nasty stuff, like acid rain.
Hate the colour of the interior, I thought they got rid of those colours 
back in the 70's.
Rust! Like an iceberg, you only see the tip of it and rust repair is 
expensive.
Yeah basically if that SL was rust free and had no issues then yeah 6-7k 
is about right but not in this state, soft top has tear, seats are dried 
out.

Looks to me like it was not loved much.
To make this a worthwhile thing, you gotta be able to do the work to get 
it up to a decent standard yourself. How much is a decent paint job 
these days?
Do you know anything about the KE system? Do you know a good indie who 
knows these cars?


Hendrik
who does not own a SL

On 12/08/13 08:51, Allan Streib wrote:

I don't know why people get "offended" by lowball offers.  If someone
make me an offer that is too low, I just say "sorry, I can't accept
that."  It's just an offer... not a personal insult!

What does annoy me is if somone says something like "would you take
$1,500" and then if I say yes, they backpedal and say something like
they are still looking around or want to think about it.  I now ask "are
you offering to buy it right now for that price?" before I answer.  Also
if I am buying I don't talk about price until I am ready to actually buy
the car.

Allan


Dan Penoff  writes:


Very true. However, this is Dad's old car and Dad isn't around any more, nor 
does there appear to be any sort of sentiment in his effort to sell.  Looks 
like it's taking up driveway space.

I sent him a rather detailed note with my concerns and the justification for my 
offer.  If anything, he shouldn't be offended.  You can read between the lines 
in his very detailed description that deep down he knows this is a project car. 
 Around here it' s worth maybe $5000 if it was in good running condition.  
Right now you can't move it out of the driveway without hitting it with a shot 
of ether.

And if he is offended, well, TS.

Dan




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