[MBZ] stupid tranmission
So I have spent all weekend trying to pull the stupid transmission on this 190D Im working on. Its tight but I got all the bolts out with no problems at all. Unbolted torque converter etc, then get ready to slide the tranny back. At this point the damn thing is about out and is just hanging there but there is NO ROOM for it to drop all the way out. You see, instead of the torque converter coming out with the tranny, it stayed where it was and the tranny came out of it. Well doing it this way there is NO ROOM for the damn tranny to clear the firewall. Thats the only thing I can figure is holding it in. I mean its just almost touching the ground, I have tried every which way but loose to get it out. It just doesnt have that extra 1/4" or whatever it needs to come on out. If the TC would have come loose like it should have, it would have practically dropped straight down after pulling it loose. Guess my next plan is to loosen the motor mounts and move the engine forward as far as I can. Damn. Next question, I got a couple of 722.409 trannies that are out of a 2.6 Im going to put in. Supposedly they are good, I sure hope so and I dont have to pull it back out. Anyway, one of them looks normal. The other one has a strange fluid line assembly that runs from the very back round cover on the drivers side, up to what looks like a switch block, then to a small port near the front of the tranny. Never seen this before. Looked in the EPC and found the assembly, it says its for increase in transmission shift point. And the switch block which has 1 wire to is says its a magnetic solenoid. So, anybody know what this does? I assume if I leave it installed and not hooked up it will be normal, but if you feed power to it the shift points will increase? Wonder if this would be of an advantage to hook up in the 190D? Could wire in a toggle switch or something to increase shift points? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid tranmission
When I had the tranny rebuilt in the SLC, I paid the shop to R&R it - and it was GOOD choice. They fought the torque converter for half a day to get it off the engine - the center protrusion (the right word escapes me now) was corroded in the end of the crankshaft. They did have the advantage of having the car up on a lift and used long pry bars. On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I have spent all weekend trying to pull the stupid transmission on > this 190D Im working on. Its tight but I got all the bolts out with no > problems at all. Unbolted torque converter etc, then get ready to slide > the tranny back. At this point the damn thing is about out and is just > hanging there but there is NO ROOM for it to drop all the way out. You > see, instead of the torque converter coming out with the tranny, it > stayed where it was and the tranny came out of it. Well doing it this > way there is NO ROOM for the damn tranny to clear the firewall. Thats > the only thing I can figure is holding it in. I mean its just almost > touching the ground, I have tried every which way but loose to get it > out. It just doesnt have that extra 1/4" or whatever it needs to come > on out. If the TC would have come loose like it should have, it would > have practically dropped straight down after pulling it loose. > > Guess my next plan is to loosen the motor mounts and move the engine > forward as far as I can. Damn. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid tranmission
> Subject: [MBZ] stupid tranmission > To: mercedes Mailing List > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > So I have spent all weekend trying to pull the stupid transmission on > this 190D Im working on. Its tight but I got all the bolts out with no > problems at all. Unbolted torque converter etc, then get ready to slide > the tranny back. At this point the damn thing is about out and is just > hanging there but there is NO ROOM for it to drop all the way out. You > see, instead of the torque converter coming out with the tranny, it > stayed where it was and the tranny came out of it. Kaleb- Do what you can to get the TC back into the tranny. put the rear mount back in and pound the TC free through the access hole in the bottom of the block. Might have to rotate the TC 90-120 degrees a few times to do it. I don't think that the trans will drop with the TC in place, and having the mass of the motor free while trying to drop the trans would cause me some concern. WHen I did the rebuild on my 300d 2.5 the converter didn't fight much, but it did try to stay in place. Also FWIW I found loosening the engine mount bolts ~ 3 turns seem to help let the motor tilt a bit more. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid tranmission
The tc is loose, but I cant get anything in there to get it to slide off the engine, so at least its not stuck. OK Don wrote: > When I had the tranny rebuilt in the SLC, I paid the shop to R&R it - > and it was GOOD choice. They fought the torque converter for half a > day to get it off the engine - the center protrusion (the right word > escapes me now) was corroded in the end of the crankshaft. They did > have the advantage of having the car up on a lift and used long pry > bars. > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So I have spent all weekend trying to pull the stupid transmission on >> this 190D Im working on. Its tight but I got all the bolts out with no >> problems at all. Unbolted torque converter etc, then get ready to slide >> the tranny back. At this point the damn thing is about out and is just >> hanging there but there is NO ROOM for it to drop all the way out. You >> see, instead of the torque converter coming out with the tranny, it >> stayed where it was and the tranny came out of it. Well doing it this >> way there is NO ROOM for the damn tranny to clear the firewall. Thats >> the only thing I can figure is holding it in. I mean its just almost >> touching the ground, I have tried every which way but loose to get it >> out. It just doesnt have that extra 1/4" or whatever it needs to come >> on out. If the TC would have come loose like it should have, it would >> have practically dropped straight down after pulling it loose. >> >> Guess my next plan is to loosen the motor mounts and move the engine >> forward as far as I can. Damn. >> -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid tranmission
I guess the moral of that story is to smear the stub of the TC with NeverSeez when you put one together. Never have this problem with real (manual) transmissions! Subject should be: Stupid Automatic transmissions! Too bad the lords of Montvale never want to give us a choice! At 09:14 PM 8/17/2008, you wrote: >When I had the tranny rebuilt in the SLC, I paid the shop to R&R it - >and it was GOOD choice. They fought the torque converter for half a >day to get it off the engine - the center protrusion (the right word >escapes me now) was corroded in the end of the crankshaft. They did >have the advantage of having the car up on a lift and used long pry >bars. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid tranmission
You are correct. Manual trannys suffer from other stupid failures at the input side that auto trannys don't suffer from, like worn out pilot bearings and siezed throwout bearings and failed slave cylinders. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 8/18/08 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] stupid tranmission I guess the moral of that story is to smear the stub of the TC with NeverSeez when you put one together. Never have this problem with real (manual) transmissions! Subject should be: Stupid Automatic transmissions! Too bad the lords of Montvale never want to give us a choice! At 09:14 PM 8/17/2008, you wrote: >When I had the tranny rebuilt in the SLC, I paid the shop to R&R it - >and it was GOOD choice. They fought the torque converter for half a >day to get it off the engine - the center protrusion (the right word >escapes me now) was corroded in the end of the crankshaft. They did >have the advantage of having the car up on a lift and used long pry >bars. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 5:12 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
