Re: [MBZ] suspension flood

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 24, 2017 at 4:46 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Parts guy produces 2 filters with the same 
> part # on them and the invoice shows them separately and the Buick 
> filter is much more expensive than the Chevy filter.

Like buying Bosch ignition points from the VW dealer or the Porsche dealer. 
Everybody knew, decades before the internet, that you wanted to cross reference 
the Porsche part number to the Bosch number and buy it from an independent 
parts store, or cross the Bosch number to a VW number and buy it from the VW 
dealer. Prices on the VW parts were often less than half the price of the 
Porsche parts, even if they came in yellow and red Bosch boxes from both 
dealers. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] suspension flood

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I had a similar experience many years back buying a temperature sensor for my 
Saab 99. The indy parts guy knew his stuff. He sold me a part listed for a VW 
at about $20, the identical part # but listed for the Saab was about 4X that 
price.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] suspension flood

My father used to tell a story about buying oil filters. He was in  a GM 
dealership for some reason and decided he might as well pick up oil filters so 
he went to the parts counter. The partsman asks what they are for and is told 
one for a Chevy pickup and one for a Buick sedan (I don't recall what years 
etc). Parts guy produces 2 filters with the same part # on them and the invoice 
shows them separately and the Buick filter is much more expensive than the 
Chevy filter. My father asks why and is given some weak excuse, so he tells the 
guy he has changed his mind and wants 2 filters for the Chevy. Parts guy is a 
bit miffed but produces a new invoice and the same filters are sold for the 
lower price.
RB

On 24/10/2017 3:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>> On October 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I doubt that very much.  Retail parts aren't a big profit center for them, 
>> so they are actually very affordable.  Just don't call in and ask for a 
>> price over the phone or they'll bone you. However, if you show up in person 
>> they're good.
> Now that's a very strange game.
> When somebody calls for a price check, they're saying "I'd like to buy it 
> from you, but if the price is too high, I'm staying away". And their response 
> to that is to quote double the actual price to scare the potential customer 
> away?
>
> Now, what just happened to me has a clearer motive behind it, if it was 
> intentional.
> A business customer calls the local Chevy dealer for the price on a couple of 
> seatbelts. My cost on them is $98 and $119 at Ed Rinke Chevrolet, but I'd 
> have to pay shipping or drive to the Detroit area to get them. I was going to 
> see if a dealer in Lansing would match Rinke's price, but my body and paint 
> man offered to get them for me wholesale. The local folks tell my friend that 
> they belts are the same price, $102.xx each. He says he'll take that. When 
> the belts came, he showed me the invoice, and they charged him 106.95 and 
> 129.70, which is more than I would have paid the Detroit guys to ship them 
> straight to me.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] suspension flood

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

My father used to tell a story about buying oil filters. He was in  a GM 
dealership for some reason and decided he might as well pick up oil 
filters so he went to the parts counter. The partsman asks what they are 
for and is told one for a Chevy pickup and one for a Buick sedan (I 
don't recall what years etc). Parts guy produces 2 filters with the same 
part # on them and the invoice shows them separately and the Buick 
filter is much more expensive than the Chevy filter. My father asks why 
and is given some weak excuse, so he tells the guy he has changed his 
mind and wants 2 filters for the Chevy. Parts guy is a bit miffed but 
produces a new invoice and the same filters are sold for the lower price.

RB

On 24/10/2017 3:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On October 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  
wrote:


I doubt that very much.  Retail parts aren't a big profit center for them, so 
they are actually very affordable.  Just don't call in and ask for a price over 
the phone or they'll bone you. However, if you show up in person they're good.

Now that's a very strange game.
When somebody calls for a price check, they're saying "I'd like to buy it from you, 
but if the price is too high, I'm staying away". And their response to that is to 
quote double the actual price to scare the potential customer away?

Now, what just happened to me has a clearer motive behind it, if it was 
intentional.
A business customer calls the local Chevy dealer for the price on a couple of 
seatbelts. My cost on them is $98 and $119 at Ed Rinke Chevrolet, but I'd have 
to pay shipping or drive to the Detroit area to get them. I was going to see if 
a dealer in Lansing would match Rinke's price, but my body and paint man 
offered to get them for me wholesale. The local folks tell my friend that they 
belts are the same price, $102.xx each. He says he'll take that. When the belts 
came, he showed me the invoice, and they charged him 106.95 and 129.70, which 
is more than I would have paid the Detroit guys to ship them straight to me.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] suspension flood

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I doubt that very much.  Retail parts aren't a big profit center for them, so 
> they are actually very affordable.  Just don't call in and ask for a price 
> over the phone or they'll bone you. However, if you show up in person they're 
> good.

Now that's a very strange game. 
When somebody calls for a price check, they're saying "I'd like to buy it from 
you, but if the price is too high, I'm staying away". And their response to 
that is to quote double the actual price to scare the potential customer away?

Now, what just happened to me has a clearer motive behind it, if it was 
intentional. 
A business customer calls the local Chevy dealer for the price on a couple of 
seatbelts. My cost on them is $98 and $119 at Ed Rinke Chevrolet, but I'd have 
to pay shipping or drive to the Detroit area to get them. I was going to see if 
a dealer in Lansing would match Rinke's price, but my body and paint man 
offered to get them for me wholesale. The local folks tell my friend that they 
belts are the same price, $102.xx each. He says he'll take that. When the belts 
came, he showed me the invoice, and they charged him 106.95 and 129.70, which 
is more than I would have paid the Detroit guys to ship them straight to me. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] suspension flood

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 16:27:29 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I doubt that very much.  Retail parts aren't a big profit center for
> them, so they are actually very affordable.  Just don't call in and ask
> for a price over the phone or they'll bone you. However, if you show up
> in person they're good.
> 
> Had a buddy call them for a price on an SLK oil filter. Phone guy
> quoted him $20.
> 
> Had him walk in ahead of me at the counter so they wouldn't associate
> him with me and it was $10.  I stepped up and said he was with me and
> it went to $8.
> 
> It's the games they play. Why, I have no idea.

I had similar happen when I was looking for 10 gallons of synthetic
75W-90 for our Kenworth's differentials. I called around and went to
Fleet Pride in Albuquerque to purchase it because they had the best
price.

When I got there to actually buy it, it was noticably lower than the
telephone quote. The fellow there said he wasn't sure I was coming in,
so he quoted a higher price over the phone. I was glad for the lower
price in person, having saved something like $100, IIRC.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] suspension flood

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I doubt that very much.  Retail parts aren't a big profit center for them, so 
they are actually very affordable.  Just don't call in and ask for a price over 
the phone or they'll bone you. However, if you show up in person they're good.

Had a buddy call them for a price on an SLK oil filter. Phone guy quoted him 
$20.

Had him walk in ahead of me at the counter so they wouldn't associate him with 
me and it was $10.  I stepped up and said he was with me and it went to $8.

It's the games they play. Why, I have no idea.

-D

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Your dealer is heading toward bankruptcy.
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> About $8.00/liter at my dealer. Retail.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > As low as $8.40 at AuhohausAZ
>> >
>> > http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=saoz0ovrdyugr1vpfkd2nkrb=800016@Mercedes=1194320@300TDT=1983=fluid@fluid=12144@Hydraulic
>> > System Fluid
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I had some sitting around in the old TD and poured it into the SEC but I
>> >> need more since the tank was mostly empty and the bottle was not full.  I
>> >> look at FCP and it is $6.99/qt for Febi which is a good price.  The old
>> >> stuff I had was the blue bottle, which I think was Febi too, it was
>> >> "genuine" I think when I got it years ago.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.fcpeuro.com/Mercedes~Benz-parts/560SEC/Hydraulic
>> >> -System-Fluid?year=1989=624=20=1
>> >>
>> >> So I look on Amazon to see about getting free shipping, and its like
>> >> $14-$20/liter.  hmm.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_14?url=search-alia
>> >> s%3Daps=mercedes+hydraulic+fluid=
>> >> mercedes+hydra%2Caps%2C173=2H4BFEFC3T3SJ
>> >>
>> >> I guess I need to order some from FCP but I need to add some other bits to
>> >> get free shipping.
>> >>
>> >> --FT
>> >>
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Re: [MBZ] suspension flood

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Your dealer is heading toward bankruptcy.

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> About $8.00/liter at my dealer. Retail.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > As low as $8.40 at AuhohausAZ
> >
> > http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=
> saoz0ovrdyugr1vpfkd2nkrb=800016@Mercedes&
> modelid=1194320@300TDT=1983=fluid@fluid=12144@Hydraulic
> > System Fluid
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I had some sitting around in the old TD and poured it into the SEC but I
> >> need more since the tank was mostly empty and the bottle was not full.
> I
> >> look at FCP and it is $6.99/qt for Febi which is a good price.  The old
> >> stuff I had was the blue bottle, which I think was Febi too, it was
> >> "genuine" I think when I got it years ago.
> >>
> >> https://www.fcpeuro.com/Mercedes~Benz-parts/560SEC/Hydraulic
> >> -System-Fluid?year=1989=624=20=1
> >>
> >> So I look on Amazon to see about getting free shipping, and its like
> >> $14-$20/liter.  hmm.
> >>
> >> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_14?url=search-alia
> >> s%3Daps=mercedes+hydraulic+fluid=
> >> mercedes+hydra%2Caps%2C173=2H4BFEFC3T3SJ
> >>
> >> I guess I need to order some from FCP but I need to add some other bits
> to
> >> get free shipping.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] suspension flood

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

About $8.00/liter at my dealer. Retail.

-D

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As low as $8.40 at AuhohausAZ
> 
> http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=saoz0ovrdyugr1vpfkd2nkrb=800016@Mercedes=1194320@300TDT=1983=fluid@fluid=12144@Hydraulic
> System Fluid
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I had some sitting around in the old TD and poured it into the SEC but I
>> need more since the tank was mostly empty and the bottle was not full.  I
>> look at FCP and it is $6.99/qt for Febi which is a good price.  The old
>> stuff I had was the blue bottle, which I think was Febi too, it was
>> "genuine" I think when I got it years ago.
>> 
>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/Mercedes~Benz-parts/560SEC/Hydraulic
>> -System-Fluid?year=1989=624=20=1
>> 
>> So I look on Amazon to see about getting free shipping, and its like
>> $14-$20/liter.  hmm.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_14?url=search-alia
>> s%3Daps=mercedes+hydraulic+fluid=
>> mercedes+hydra%2Caps%2C173=2H4BFEFC3T3SJ
>> 
>> I guess I need to order some from FCP but I need to add some other bits to
>> get free shipping.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] suspension flood

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

As low as $8.40 at AuhohausAZ

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=saoz0ovrdyugr1vpfkd2nkrb=800016@Mercedes=1194320@300TDT=1983=fluid@fluid=12144@Hydraulic
System Fluid


On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I had some sitting around in the old TD and poured it into the SEC but I
> need more since the tank was mostly empty and the bottle was not full.  I
> look at FCP and it is $6.99/qt for Febi which is a good price.  The old
> stuff I had was the blue bottle, which I think was Febi too, it was
> "genuine" I think when I got it years ago.
>
> https://www.fcpeuro.com/Mercedes~Benz-parts/560SEC/Hydraulic
> -System-Fluid?year=1989=624=20=1
>
> So I look on Amazon to see about getting free shipping, and its like
> $14-$20/liter.  hmm.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_14?url=search-alia
> s%3Daps=mercedes+hydraulic+fluid=
> mercedes+hydra%2Caps%2C173=2H4BFEFC3T3SJ
>
> I guess I need to order some from FCP but I need to add some other bits to
> get free shipping.
>
> --FT
>
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[MBZ] suspension flood

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I had some sitting around in the old TD and poured it into the SEC but I 
need more since the tank was mostly empty and the bottle was not full.  
I look at FCP and it is $6.99/qt for Febi which is a good price.  The 
old stuff I had was the blue bottle, which I think was Febi too, it was 
"genuine" I think when I got it years ago.


https://www.fcpeuro.com/Mercedes~Benz-parts/560SEC/Hydraulic-System-Fluid?year=1989=624=20=1

So I look on Amazon to see about getting free shipping, and its like 
$14-$20/liter.  hmm.


https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_14?url=search-alias%3Daps=mercedes+hydraulic+fluid=mercedes+hydra%2Caps%2C173=2H4BFEFC3T3SJ

I guess I need to order some from FCP but I need to add some other bits 
to get free shipping.


--FT


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