Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. 450 SL tranny replacement. Had to get it scary high in the air in order to actually have room to work the tranny out from under. I think I had to jack it up in two steps, using big firewood rounds as spacers. Not my idea of great fun, but fairly stable if the wood is big enough. (And sawn square on the ends!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. 450 SL tranny replacement. Had to get it scary high in the air in order to actually have room to work the tranny out from under. I think I had to jack it up in two steps, using big firewood rounds as spacers. Not my idea of great fun, but fairly stable if the wood is big enough. (And sawn square on the ends!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
I'm thinking I'd put my ramps on doubled 2x12s to gain an extra 3, drive the front onto the ramps, then jack up the back and put it on a pair of those big truck jack stands. If the drive isn't concrete, I'd put the stands on 2x12 for stability. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38847 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34924 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=39178 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3185 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95640 Luther wrote: I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. 450 SL tranny replacement. Had to get it scary high in the air in order to actually have room to work the tranny out from under. I think I had to jack it up in two steps, using big firewood rounds as spacers. Not my idea of great fun, but fairly stable if the wood is big enough. (And sawn square on the ends!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny An oft-overlooked factor is the height of the transmission jack, assuming you're using such. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Have you ever RR'd a MB box? The box is a two pretty strong man operation to get in and out and the torque converter is usually stuck in there pretty tight. Hendrik who finds it easier to pull the engine and box out as a unit Luther wrote: I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Luther, Harbor Freight sells a tranny handling adapter (about $30) which replaces the 5 inch saddle on your standard floor jack.? If you are thinking one man job, this will make the difference.? Unfortunately, it adds about 5 inches to the height you need to clear the frame.?? Worth it tho.? It straps the tranny down and tilts to permit angling the trans into place.? I just resealed my son's Dodge Caravan, by myself, and I am 69.? I did saw off about a 3 inch strip on the adapter to let it fit more easily in the space available.? Mine is available if you live close. For height, in front, I filled two std cement blocks, two pices of 3/4 plywood?which then I set my jack stands on.? In the back, the two jackstands were sufficient. Letting the engine/ trans assembly drop in the rear (keeping close watch for firewall clearance and cable strain) will make it easier to get at those honkin' big hex bolts, best reached with about 20 inches of extentions and a 1/2 breaker bar.? Clean the hex sockets (10mm) thoroughly with a brake cleaner, you don't want to round one of these and have it slip!? When they break loose, you will swear you broke something!? Heavy gloves will cushion the hands but watch your elbow.? Finally, get as much of the trans fluid out before you start, as it will run out the tailshaft when you pull the driveshaft. Good luck! Jim in Phoenix I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -Original Message- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:18 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. 450 SL tranny replacement. Had to get it scary high in the air in order to actually have room to work the tranny out from under. I think I had to jack it up in two steps, using big firewood rounds as spacers. Not my idea of great fun, but fairly stable if the wood is big enough. (And sawn square on the ends!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:00:04 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm thinking I'd put my ramps on doubled 2x12s to gain an extra 3, drive the front onto the ramps, then jack up the back and put it on a pair of those big truck jack stands. If the drive isn't concrete, I'd put the stands on 2x12 for stability. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38847 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34924 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=39178 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3185 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95640 Luther wrote: I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark Luther: I did my 300d (w124) w/the 6 ton stands (4 of them, under still sound lifting pads, front higher than rear) and the 800lb jack above. With the stands about 3/4 up and the jack down and plate tilted forward a bit to lower the bell housing I cleared by about 1/2 inch. Don't screw w/the scissors jack; not worth the hassles (800lb one much more stable and adjustability saves time and grief). can always sell the jack when done! Personally I don't like ramps. Would advise against wood as replacement for jack stands. If using wood at least bolt together- screws break WAY too easily. While you're in there- great time to replace the rear main seal. Are you putting in a reman/junkyard tranny or DIY rebuild? The rebuild isn't as hard as it might sound! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. Auto tranny isn't all that heavy (150lb? tops?) and the manuals are like 75lb or lighter. -Rolf Jim Cathey wrote: about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny An oft-overlooked factor is the height of the transmission jack, assuming you're using such. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Sorry, I feel this advice is very poor to say the least. Drop 150 pounds on you chest is inviting cardiac tampanod S. Damn few of use could lift the transmission up to reinstall, maintain alignment, not hang it on the input seal/shaft. If renting a transmission jack is too much, ride a bike... Pete -- Original message -- From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. Auto tranny isn't all that heavy (150lb? tops?) and the manuals are like 75lb or lighter. -Rolf Jim Cathey wrote: about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny An oft-overlooked factor is the height of the transmission jack, assuming you're using such. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Rolf wrote: No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. When I worked at a Honda dealer, one of my coworkers showed up on Monday with a huge cast on his arm. It seems that Kelly had pulled the tranny (THM 350 or THM 400) on his Chevy pickup on Saturday. He braced his elbow against the driveway with his palm under the oil pan, grabbed the tailshaft with his right hand, and pulled the tranny off the locating dowels so he could catch it on his left hand. Shattered his left forearm like a toothpick. Scared me off from manual tranny catching for life. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. When I worked at a Honda dealer, one of my coworkers showed up on Monday with a huge cast on his arm. It seems that Kelly had pulled the tranny (THM 350 or THM 400) on his Chevy pickup on Saturday. He braced his elbow against the driveway with his palm under the oil pan, grabbed the tailshaft with his right hand, and pulled the tranny off the locating dowels so he could catch it on his left hand. Shattered his left forearm like a toothpick. Scared me off from manual tranny catching for life. I was able to bench press my Toyota manual trans-axle into place with some cursing ect. I was exercising and lifting weights at that time though. I would probably struggle more now. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Rick Knoble wrote: I was able to bench press my Toyota manual trans-axle into place with some cursing ect. I was exercising and lifting weights at that time though. I had no trouble with my 4sp Muncie in the Citation. I undid the cables, exhaust and wiring, unbolted the engine, unplugged the inner CV joints from the tranny, and yanked the power pack out the top. Standing next to the engine I just pulled the tranny off with both hands. Don't know what it weighted, I probably weighed 135 but I could curl 75lb about 20 reps back then. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Harbor Freight sells a tranny handling adapter (about $30) That's what I have. which replaces the 5 inch saddle on your standard floor jack. In _their_ standard floor jack. I bought the adapter for my jack, only to find it wouldn't fit. So I went back and bought the matching jack too. (You can always use an extra jack, I've used the pair now for several years. Can jack up the entire side of a car at once, etc. Two cars can be operated on at once, etc.) Just be aware. No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. Auto tranny isn't all that heavy (150lb? tops?) and the manuals are like 75lb or lighter. Didn't work for me on the SL tranny, I'm not that beefy. I did end up bench-pressing the manual tranny back into place on the 190D. I think to get the auto out, since I didn't care about it, I lowered it on the jack and then dragged it off and onto the ground to drag it out from under the (too low) car. Scrape, bang, scrape. He braced his elbow against the driveway with his palm under the oil pan, grabbed the tailshaft with his right hand, and pulled the tranny off the locating dowels so he could catch it on his left hand. Shattered his left forearm like a toothpick. Ouch! You NEVER catch something like that where you don't have any room to travel. Just like you don't jump out of a tree and land with your knees locked. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style/OT trans lifting
In a message dated 4/30/2008 8:26:16 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. When I worked at a Honda dealer, one of my coworkers showed up on Monday with a huge cast on his arm. It seems that Kelly had pulled the tranny (THM 350 or THM 400) on his Chevy pickup on Saturday. He braced his elbow against the driveway with his palm under the oil pan, grabbed the tailshaft with his right hand, and pulled the tranny off the locating dowels so he could catch it on his left hand. Shattered his left forearm like a toothpick. Scared me off from manual tranny catching for life. I was able to bench press my Toyota manual trans-axle into place with some cursing ect. I was exercising and lifting weights at that time though. I would probably struggle more now. Rick Knoble Rick, Rolf, and all. When I was about 27, I put a 55 Olds 4 speed Hydramatic in my Corvette, for drag racing. I dug a hole in the dirt to fit my body, then slid the trans on my chest and boosted it in. It took about 3 trys! I think my gonads were gone for about 3 days! I later weighed one of these and with the fluid coupling, it was 225 pounds! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 155 K miles **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Jim Cathey wrote: Ouch! You NEVER catch something like that where you don't have any room to travel. Just like you don't jump out of a tree and land with your knees locked. Catch may have been the wrong word. From what he said, his palm was firmly pressed against the tranny when he pulled it off the engine. I don't know if the tranny was heavy enough to telescope his arm or if his arm wasn't vertical and couldn't take the sideload. But just thinking about him in a cast from armpit to fingertips makes me shudder. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style/OT trans lifting
I dug a hole in the dirt to fit my body, then slid the trans on my chest and boosted it in. It took about 3 tries! I think my gonads were gone for about 3 days! I later weighed one...it was 225 pounds! Shouldn't have been any worse for you than an after-hours drunken rasslin' match with a fat chick from the bar, with _both_ of you less than pleased with your choice! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style/OT trans lifting
LOL! Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 9:05 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style/OT trans lifting I dug a hole in the dirt to fit my body, then slid the trans on my chest and boosted it in. It took about 3 tries! I think my gonads were gone for about 3 days! I later weighed one...it was 225 pounds! Shouldn't have been any worse for you than an after-hours drunken rasslin' match with a fat chick from the bar, with _both_ of you less than pleased with your choice! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
They should have a scissor style jack intended for transmissions as well. I bought one of the adapters for my floor jack and discovered the height problem too. I went back and swapped it for the scissor style jack. That will drop the transmission down to about 3 inches from the floor. I still had to slide the tranny off of the jack in order to get sufficient clearance to drag it out from under the vehicle without jacking the vehicle up further. The jack works well. It is raised and lowered by a screw. I use an air ratchet in the input of the screw and move it up and down with ease. It helps to have 2 or 3 people for reinstalling. One on either side of the jack and tranny and one under the front looking up into the bellhousing to ge the alignment right - at least that was the way we did it - on a manual tranny 4X4 with the transfer case attached which made the tranny a bit unbalanced to the back and one side. Might be easier on a basic tranny that would balance better. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:25 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style Luther, Harbor Freight sells a tranny handling adapter (about $30) which replaces the 5 inch saddle on your standard floor jack.? If you are thinking one man job, this will make the difference.? Unfortunately, it adds about 5 inches to the height you need to clear the frame.?? Worth it tho.? It straps the tranny down and tilts to permit angling the trans into place.? I just resealed my son's Dodge Caravan, by myself, and I am 69.? I did saw off about a 3 inch strip on the adapter to let it fit more easily in the space available.? Mine is available if you live close. For height, in front, I filled two std cement blocks, two pices of 3/4 plywood?which then I set my jack stands on.? In the back, the two jackstands were sufficient. Letting the engine/ trans assembly drop in the rear (keeping close watch for firewall clearance and cable strain) will make it easier to get at those honkin' big hex bolts, best reached with about 20 inches of extentions and a 1/2 breaker bar.? Clean the hex sockets (10mm) thoroughly with a brake cleaner, you don't want to round one of these and have it slip!? When they break loose, you will swear you broke something!? Heavy gloves will cushion the hands but watch your elbow.? Finally, get as much of the trans fluid out before you start, as it will run out the tailshaft when you pull the driveshaft. Good luck! Jim in Phoenix I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -Original Message- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:18 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. 450 SL tranny replacement. Had to get it scary high in the air in order to actually have room to work the tranny out from under. I think I had to jack it up in two steps, using big firewood rounds as spacers. Not my idea of great fun, but fairly stable if the wood is big enough. (And sawn square on the ends!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. My advice would be to see if you can find a local private owned, private run garage that has a couple of bays and ask to lease one for a couple of weekends. There was a guy I used to know around here that ran a garage out of his old pole barn, had a couple frame lifts and a ramp lift, and if you talked to him right he didn't mind letting you use one for a while. Too bad it's a subdivision now with McMansions in it. *sighs* I could use a lift for rent right about now. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My advice would be to see if you can find a local private owned, private run garage that has a couple of bays and ask to lease one for a couple of weekends. There was a guy I used to know around here that ran a garage out of his old pole barn, had a couple frame lifts and a ramp lift, and if you talked to him right he didn't mind letting you use one for a while. Also, you are a big truck mechanic, correct? This may not mean as much to you then, but when I was working as a mechanic for a Chrysler dealer we always had more bays than line techs. Large shop, three rows of lifts. So my General Manager never cared if I pulled my car into one from time to time. You know, had to ask first and make sure it was ok at that time, each time. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Yes, 11 pounds per square inch to break a forearm (per bone, laterally). I had no problem letting it come down on my chest and then wrestling out from under it. 6-2 and 280lb. Like I said, if you got a bit of heft to you. Manual on the other hand is super light and is no problem (just another reason to go to manual :) ). I have done atleast 4 transmissions in the same manner. Just make sure you have someone near by -Rolf Mitch Haley wrote: Rolf wrote: No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. When I worked at a Honda dealer, one of my coworkers showed up on Monday with a huge cast on his arm. It seems that Kelly had pulled the tranny (THM 350 or THM 400) on his Chevy pickup on Saturday. He braced his elbow against the driveway with his palm under the oil pan, grabbed the tailshaft with his right hand, and pulled the tranny off the locating dowels so he could catch it on his left hand. Shattered his left forearm like a toothpick. Scared me off from manual tranny catching for life. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Bench Pressing the 280 lb. back IN A CONTROLLED MANNER would be the better of me at any time or size and I was 5'14 and 305 pounds. Thats 20 year ago, today a brake job leaves me panting. Pete -- Original message -- From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, 11 pounds per square inch to break a forearm (per bone, laterally). I had no problem letting it come down on my chest and then wrestling out from under it. 6-2 and 280lb. Like I said, if you got a bit of heft to you. Manual on the other hand is super light and is no problem (just another reason to go to manual :) ). I have done atleast 4 transmissions in the same manner. Just make sure you have someone near by -Rolf Mitch Haley wrote: Rolf wrote: No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. When I worked at a Honda dealer, one of my coworkers showed up on Monday with a huge cast on his arm. It seems that Kelly had pulled the tranny (THM 350 or THM 400) on his Chevy pickup on Saturday. He braced his elbow against the driveway with his palm under the oil pan, grabbed the tailshaft with his right hand, and pulled the tranny off the locating dowels so he could catch it on his left hand. Shattered his left forearm like a toothpick. Scared me off from manual tranny catching for life. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=39178 This is just like the one I used and referred to in an earlier post. The only thing I would suggest is that you might want to modify the top as it is a bit narrow and short to balance the transmission on and the strap is not a whole lot of help. The adapters that fit a floor jack have adjustable arms that probably work better to balance the tranny. Would not be difficult to rig something similar to the scissor jack. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
You prosperous gents are gonna need to lift that car another few inches to get under it. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bench Pressing the 280 lb. back IN A CONTROLLED MANNER would be the better of me at any time or size and I was 5'14 and 305 pounds. Thats 20 year ago, today a brake job leaves me panting. Pete -- Original message -- From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, 11 pounds per square inch to break a forearm (per bone, laterally). I had no problem letting it come down on my chest and then wrestling out from under it. 6-2 and 280lb. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
8 or so. Harbor Freight sissor/crank/non-hydraulic type. On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:16:28 -0500, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny An oft-overlooked factor is the height of the transmission jack, assuming you're using such. -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
If you have seen me (6'2, 180, and I've benched 200+ lbs 4 times in my life) you would know this is NOT an option. I already have a tranny jack. Luther On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:03:53 -0500, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. Auto tranny isn't all that heavy (150lb? tops?) and the manuals are like 75lb or lighter. -Rolf Jim Cathey wrote: about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny An oft-overlooked factor is the height of the transmission jack, assuming you're using such. -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
I'm not a big truck mechanic. I do the Roadside Assistance, sorta like On-Star, but we say NO like a bad credit card reward program... Luther On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:37:19 -0500, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My advice would be to see if you can find a local private owned, private run garage that has a couple of bays and ask to lease one for a couple of weekends. There was a guy I used to know around here that ran a garage out of his old pole barn, had a couple frame lifts and a ramp lift, and if you talked to him right he didn't mind letting you use one for a while. Also, you are a big truck mechanic, correct? This may not mean as much to you then, but when I was working as a mechanic for a Chrysler dealer we always had more bays than line techs. Large shop, three rows of lifts. So my General Manager never cared if I pulled my car into one from time to time. You know, had to ask first and make sure it was ok at that time, each time. EdB -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Borrow an engine hoist (a good one!) and pull engine and tranny together. Vastly safer than jacking the car high enough to get the tranny out from underneath. I'd only attempt that with a lift. Peter On Apr 30, 2008, at 1:15 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. 450 SL tranny replacement. Had to get it scary high in the air in order to actually have room to work the tranny out from under. I think I had to jack it up in two steps, using big firewood rounds as spacers. Not my idea of great fun, but fairly stable if the wood is big enough. (And sawn square on the ends!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
