Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
Yes, clear and obvious deception. Anything for the buck, right? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500 Craig wrote: My understanding is that the 300SDLs that followed the 350SDLs are also rod benders. In an underhanded acknowledgment that the 3.5L had a reputation for poor reliability, they started calling them 300 instead of 350 in hopes that buyers wouldn't realize it was still the 3.5L engine. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
When they changed it to the letter in the front it was supposed to keep everything making sense, so instead of 400sel it was s420 since it was a 4.2l. Now it seems they are back to the numbers not always matching the engine in the case of my gl320, it's got a 3.0 in it, and this new s350 you are taking about. I wish they would have just left it the old way. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2012, at 12:48 AM, Chris james c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: MBUSA has a long history of adjusting (or making up) model nomenclature, on both gas diesel models specifically for the supposed benefit of the US market. But in the case of the 3.5L 300SD W140, it was simply a world wide marketing change (all W140 model designations were rounded displacements, i.e. 400SEL, 300SD for the 1st two MY). Too soon for the reliability issues to of had any hand in it. IIRC, most of the problem engines didn't begin to self destruct until near the end or just past the 4yr/50K warranty period. No? And as john mentioned, there is the current S350 BlueTEC 4matic, powered by a 3.0L V6 turbodiesel no less! On 12/9/2012 12:13 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: In an underhanded acknowledgment that the 3.5L had a reputation for poor reliability, they started calling them 300 instead of 350 in hopes that buyers wouldn't realize it was still the 3.5L engine. -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
That is what happens when the shots are called by Madison ave bowties. I was telling a guy yesterday that the 126 was the last real big mercedes. (along with the 124 and 201) When they changed it to the letter in the front it was supposed to keep everything making sense, so instead of 400sel it was s420 since it was a 4.2l. Now it seems they are back to the numbers not always matching the engine in the case of my gl320, it's got a 3.0 in it, and this new s350 you are taking about. I wish they would have just left it the old way. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2012, at 12:48 AM, Chris james c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: MBUSA has a long history of adjusting (or making up) model nomenclature, on both gas diesel models specifically for the supposed benefit of the US market. But in the case of the 3.5L 300SD W140, it was simply a world wide marketing change (all W140 model designations were rounded displacements, i.e. 400SEL, 300SD for the 1st two MY). Too soon for the reliability issues to of had any hand in it. IIRC, most of the problem engines didn't begin to self destruct until near the end or just past the 4yr/50K warranty period. No? And as john mentioned, there is the current S350 BlueTEC 4matic, powered by a 3.0L V6 turbodiesel no less! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
Yes - is this a record for keeping a car around? On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: My 92 300sd? It's a daily driver. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2012, at 11:16 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: What finally happened to your 140 rod bender?? On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Yes Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Outside looks very good in the dark. Light color. Mercedes and foreign car repair shop on U.S. 19 Many wealthy people live around Crystal River. This shop does their maintainence/repairs and sells their cars for them when they buy new ones, or so I've been told. Is this a rod bender? Gerry All Prestige Automotive 309 NW Hwy 19 Crystal River, Florida 305 795 7000 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
No don't think so. Have had other cars longer. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:35 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Yes - is this a record for keeping a car around? On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: My 92 300sd? It's a daily driver. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2012, at 11:16 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: What finally happened to your 140 rod bender?? On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Yes Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Outside looks very good in the dark. Light color. Mercedes and foreign car repair shop on U.S. 19 Many wealthy people live around Crystal River. This shop does their maintainence/repairs and sells their cars for them when they buy new ones, or so I've been told. Is this a rod bender? Gerry All Prestige Automotive 309 NW Hwy 19 Crystal River, Florida 305 795 7000 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
You've had it 5-6 years at least. How long did you have the SDL before the 140? No don't think so. Have had other cars longer. Sent from my jPhone On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:35 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Yes - is this a record for keeping a car around? On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: My 92 300sd? It's a daily driver. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
Yes Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Outside looks very good in the dark. Light color. Mercedes and foreign car repair shop on U.S. 19 Many wealthy people live around Crystal River. This shop does their maintainence/repairs and sells their cars for them when they buy new ones, or so I've been told. Is this a rod bender? Gerry All Prestige Automotive 309 NW Hwy 19 Crystal River, Florida 305 795 7000 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yes Aside from that, the best of the W126 sedans. Probably a good car if it's had a new factory engine or at least a preventative head gasket upgrade. Price seems a bit steep though. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
yup. John On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Outside looks very good in the dark. Light color. Mercedes and foreign car repair shop on U.S. 19 Many wealthy people live around Crystal River. This shop does their maintainence/repairs and sells their cars for them when they buy new ones, or so I've been told. Is this a rod bender? Gerry All Prestige Automotive 309 NW Hwy 19 Crystal River, Florida 305 795 7000 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
Aside from that, the best of the W126 sedans. Probably a good car if it's had a new factory engine or at least a preventative head gasket upgrade. Price seems a bit steep though. Mitch. SDLs seem to be gaining in value. At least nice ones not in the rust belt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
Could be. Many 350s have bent rods, but my '91 350SDL has 203 kmi, anyway; sure cruised mighty fine on 150-mile trip today. Still keeping fingers crossed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 9:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500 Outside looks very good in the dark. Light color. Mercedes and foreign car repair shop on U.S. 19 Many wealthy people live around Crystal River. This shop does their maintainence/repairs and sells their cars for them when they buy new ones, or so I've been told. Is this a rod bender? Gerry All Prestige Automotive 309 NW Hwy 19 Crystal River, Florida 305 795 7000 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
WILTON wrote: Could be. Many 350s have bent rods, but my '91 350SDL has 203 kmi, anyway; sure cruised mighty fine on 150-mile trip today. Still keeping fingers crossed. Didn't yours have a valve job or something? What year is the head gasket? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
Is this a rod bender? As I recall (from Herr Doktor), all original 350SDLs (but not 300SDLs) are latent rod benders unless they've been upgraded, either by a MBZ reman/new crate engine or the redesigned connecting rods ... prior to ovaling out the bores. That said, even original motors may go many miles before symptoms appear. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 9:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500 Outside looks very good in the dark. Light color. Mercedes and foreign car repair shop on U.S. 19 Many wealthy people live around Crystal River. This shop does their maintainence/repairs and sells their cars for them when they buy new ones, or so I've been told. Is this a rod bender? Gerry All Prestige Automotive 309 NW Hwy 19 Crystal River, Florida 305 795 7000 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 23:01:21 -0500 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Is this a rod bender? As I recall (from Herr Doktor), all original 350SDLs (but not 300SDLs) are latent rod benders unless they've been upgraded ... My understanding is that the 300SDLs that followed the 350SDLs are also rod benders. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
Bzzt after the 126 350SDL (rodbender) was the 350/300SD W140 (rodbender) SDLs were only 126. On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 23:01:21 -0500 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Is this a rod bender? As I recall (from Herr Doktor), all original 350SDLs (but not 300SDLs) are latent rod benders unless they've been upgraded ... My understanding is that the 300SDLs that followed the 350SDLs are also rod benders. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 22:26:51 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Bzzt after the 126 350SDL (rodbender) was the 350/300SD W140 (rodbender) SDLs were only 126. So were there: 126 350SDL rodbender 126 300SDL non-rodbender 140 300SD rodbender ? Or was there no 300SDL after the 350SDL? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
The 3.5L 6cyl OM603 was installed in the following '90-'95 S-Class models, specifically badged as 350SD Turbo (W126), '90-'91 350SDL Turbo (W126), '90-'91 300SD (W140), '92-'93 S350 Turbodiesel (W140), '94-'95 On 12/8/2012 11:33 PM, Craig wrote: So were there: 126 350SDL rodbender 126 300SDL non-rodbender 140 300SD rodbender -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
No, there was not. 1987 was the last year for the 3.0L in the US the W140 diesels were all SWB (short wheel base). On 12/8/2012 11:33 PM, Craig wrote: Or was there no 300SDL after the 350SDL? -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
Timing chain broke at 89 kmi, Jun '96; replaced 3 or 4 valves and lifters, shaved head, new head gasket, of course, bunch of other stuff I don't remember. Nothing done to lower part of eng. Changed T chain again at ~195 kmi. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500 WILTON wrote: Could be. Many 350s have bent rods, but my '91 350SDL has 203 kmi, anyway; sure cruised mighty fine on 150-mile trip today. Still keeping fingers crossed. Didn't yours have a valve job or something? What year is the head gasket? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
Yes, 350's rebadged as 300's - MB blowing smoke. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500 On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 23:01:21 -0500 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Is this a rod bender? As I recall (from Herr Doktor), all original 350SDLs (but not 300SDLs) are latent rod benders unless they've been upgraded ... My understanding is that the 300SDLs that followed the 350SDLs are also rod benders. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
Craig wrote: My understanding is that the 300SDLs that followed the 350SDLs are also rod benders. In an underhanded acknowledgment that the 3.5L had a reputation for poor reliability, they started calling them 300 instead of 350 in hopes that buyers wouldn't realize it was still the 3.5L engine. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
What finally happened to your 140 rod bender?? On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Yes Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Outside looks very good in the dark. Light color. Mercedes and foreign car repair shop on U.S. 19 Many wealthy people live around Crystal River. This shop does their maintainence/repairs and sells their cars for them when they buy new ones, or so I've been told. Is this a rod bender? Gerry All Prestige Automotive 309 NW Hwy 19 Crystal River, Florida 305 795 7000 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
WILTON wrote: Timing chain broke at 89 kmi, Jun '96; replaced 3 or 4 valves and lifters, shaved head, new head gasket, of course, bunch of other stuff I don't remember. Nothing done to lower part of eng. Changed T chain again at ~195 kmi. I'm 90% sure the replacement engines were supposed to be good by 1996. I wonder about an original engine with a 1996 head gasket. Having the head milled flat again after 89000 miles and thousands of heat cycles would also tend to improve the reliability of the head gasket. I also wonder if the problem is moot as long as the owner keeps watch for oil leaks near the front of the head and changes the head gasket promptly when seepage starts. Is it possible to fill the #1 cylinder with oil and not leak any to the outside of the engine? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
And now they have a new S350 TD for 2012 and 13. Guess they didn't learn! John On Dec 8, 2012 9:16 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: My understanding is that the 300SDLs that followed the 350SDLs are also rod benders. In an underhanded acknowledgment that the 3.5L had a reputation for poor reliability, they started calling them 300 instead of 350 in hopes that buyers wouldn't realize it was still the 3.5L engine. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
Yes. Oil fills cylinder and exhaust smokes terribly. No external leak. I thought it was bad turbo and bent rod #1 before I figured it out. It's worth a preventive head gasket change in my opinion. At least then you can do it when you want to instead of when you have to. Newer revisions have reinforced the known weak spot. On Sunday, December 9, 2012, Mitch Haley wrote: WILTON wrote: Timing chain broke at 89 kmi, Jun '96; replaced 3 or 4 valves and lifters, shaved head, new head gasket, of course, bunch of other stuff I don't remember. Nothing done to lower part of eng. Changed T chain again at ~195 kmi. I'm 90% sure the replacement engines were supposed to be good by 1996. I wonder about an original engine with a 1996 head gasket. Having the head milled flat again after 89000 miles and thousands of heat cycles would also tend to improve the reliability of the head gasket. I also wonder if the problem is moot as long as the owner keeps watch for oil leaks near the front of the head and changes the head gasket promptly when seepage starts. Is it possible to fill the #1 cylinder with oil and not leak any to the outside of the engine? Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
My 92 300sd? It's a daily driver. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2012, at 11:16 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: What finally happened to your 140 rod bender?? On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Yes Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Outside looks very good in the dark. Light color. Mercedes and foreign car repair shop on U.S. 19 Many wealthy people live around Crystal River. This shop does their maintainence/repairs and sells their cars for them when they buy new ones, or so I've been told. Is this a rod bender? Gerry All Prestige Automotive 309 NW Hwy 19 Crystal River, Florida 305 795 7000 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350 SDL $6500
MBUSA has a long history of adjusting (or making up) model nomenclature, on both gas diesel models specifically for the supposed benefit of the US market. But in the case of the 3.5L 300SD W140, it was simply a world wide marketing change (all W140 model designations were rounded displacements, i.e. 400SEL, 300SD for the 1st two MY). Too soon for the reliability issues to of had any hand in it. IIRC, most of the problem engines didn't begin to self destruct until near the end or just past the 4yr/50K warranty period. No? And as john mentioned, there is the current S350 BlueTEC 4matic, powered by a 3.0L V6 turbodiesel no less! On 12/9/2012 12:13 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: In an underhanded acknowledgment that the 3.5L had a reputation for poor reliability, they started calling them 300 instead of 350 in hopes that buyers wouldn't realize it was still the 3.5L engine. -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
