Re: [MBZ] 108 Spotted

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Maybe he's bored with it.  Did you ask?

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> I was headed to lunch and saw a beautiful MB parked in the lot.  I talked
> to the driver.  1971 280SEL.  Gorgeous car.
>
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> He was complimentary about my 124, but I think he was being nice. A 108 is
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Re: [MBZ] 108 4.5

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I love it

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Re: [MBZ] 108 at Copart, something seems off with this car

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That is sick.  The chrome must have been  badly degraded for anyone to do
that.

I just saw the $15k minimum bid.  What a crock.

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> Some knucklehead repainted all the chrome bits in black paint, looks awful.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 108 at Copart, something seems off with this car

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Some knucklehead repainted all the chrome bits in black paint, looks awful.

However, 4.5 V8 baby!
-
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Re: [MBZ] 108 at Copart, something seems off with this car

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Looks good to me. Great color combination, although it's hard to say what
the condition is from the photos.

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Re: [MBZ] 108

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"This posting has been deleted by its author. "

I guess y'all shamed the seller into taking down his listing. 
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On January 22, 2019 5:20:44 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Haha.  That was the most obvious answer.
>
>On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 1:31 PM OK Don via Mercedes
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>wrote:
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>> The color blind!
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 10:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>>
>> > Fugly color.  Would that appeal to a certain buyer demographic?
>> >
>> > --FT
>> >
>> > On 1/22/19 11:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> > > Stupid price for a very ugly sedan with crank windows.
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> 1969 Mercedes Benz
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
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>fence
>> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] 108

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Haha.  That was the most obvious answer.

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 1:31 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
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> The color blind!
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 10:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>
> > Fugly color.  Would that appeal to a certain buyer demographic?
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 1/22/19 11:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Stupid price for a very ugly sedan with crank windows.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> 1969 Mercedes Benz
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] 108

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The color blind!

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 10:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Fugly color.  Would that appeal to a certain buyer demographic?
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/22/19 11:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Stupid price for a very ugly sedan with crank windows.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> >> 1969 Mercedes Benz
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Re: [MBZ] 108

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People With No Taste
Nouveaux Riches
PRC Chinese bourgeosie




On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 11:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Fugly color.  Would that appeal to a certain buyer demographic?
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/22/19 11:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Stupid price for a very ugly sedan with crank windows.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> >> 1969 Mercedes Benz
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Re: [MBZ] 108

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Fugly color.  Would that appeal to a certain buyer demographic?

--FT

On 1/22/19 11:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Stupid price for a very ugly sedan with crank windows.

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1969 Mercedes Benz


https://stillwater.craigslist.org/cto/d/ponca-city-1969-mercedes-benz/6800252798.html


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Re: [MBZ] 108

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Stupid price for a very ugly sedan with crank windows.

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> 1969 Mercedes Benz
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Re: [MBZ] 108 280S sold

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Not to be a nit picker but the $30k car was a '69 280SE L sedan, whereas
Jaime's is a 1968 250S currently at just over $11k.

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> Ha!  My first MB was a '69 280S - we put a lot of miles on it but I
> struggled with the dual carbs, window mechanisms and the rockers were
> getting pretty rusty.  I replaced both rockers but the front fenders needed
> work.  I rebuilt the engine and it ran great! but it's days were numbered
> and I finally traded it for a bunch of parts for my 1st diesel (78 240D).
>
> Never dreamed a 280S would bring such a high bid - but I bet that
> restoration cost a Bunch!
>
> Love those 108s though - my favorite was a '72 280SE 4.5 we had for
> several years. What an awesome engine that was!  So much power - it would
> chirp the tires under full accel when it shifted from 2-3 (at least I think
> it was the 2-3 shift) that occurred at 45mph
>
> Larry
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>
>
> On 07/25/2018 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> oops - wrong car.
>>
>> Jaime's car is still being auctioned.
>>
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-mercedes-benz-250s-4/
>> ?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-07-25
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel <
>> astrasfo...@gmail.com>
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>>
>> I was a little light in my estimate, others heavy.
>>>
>>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-
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Re: [MBZ] 108 280S sold

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Ha!  My first MB was a '69 280S - we put a lot of miles on it but I 
struggled with the dual carbs, window mechanisms and the rockers were 
getting pretty rusty.  I replaced both rockers but the front fenders 
needed work.  I rebuilt the engine and it ran great! but it's days were 
numbered and I finally traded it for a bunch of parts for my 1st diesel 
(78 240D).


Never dreamed a 280S would bring such a high bid - but I bet that 
restoration cost a Bunch!


Love those 108s though - my favorite was a '72 280SE 4.5 we had for 
several years. What an awesome engine that was!  So much power - it 
would chirp the tires under full accel when it shifted from 2-3 (at 
least I think it was the 2-3 shift) that occurred at 45mph


Larry


On 07/25/2018 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

oops - wrong car.

Jaime's car is still being auctioned.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-mercedes-benz-250s-4/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-07-25

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I was a little light in my estimate, others heavy.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-
280sel/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-07-19


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Re: [MBZ] 108 280S sold

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Allegedly original dark green cars are apparently worth more than refurbished 
dark blue cars, but it looks like the Jaimemobile is finally going to hit five 
digits. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 108 280S sold

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

oops - wrong car.

Jaime's car is still being auctioned.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-mercedes-benz-250s-4/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-07-25

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> I was a little light in my estimate, others heavy.
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-
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Re: [MBZ] 108

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I have the side marker lenses if anyone wants them.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sunroof is a big plus.  I don't like the 68... the safety bits ruined the
> interiors.  But a 250SE is a very nice car.
>
> If its not rusty, its certainly worth saving.
>
> Jaime
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>
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Sunroof is a big plus.  I don't like the 68... the safety bits ruined the
interiors.  But a 250SE is a very nice car.

If its not rusty, its certainly worth saving.

Jaime


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> Huh.  I got a set of dog dishes that would fit that car...
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[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Huh.  I got a set of dog dishes that would fit that car...
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[OK Don via Mercedes]

"needs a lot of work to be up and running." Sounds like another home for
mice and rats at Okie Acres - do you really want another project needing "needs
a lot of work to be up and running."?

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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>
> > On January 29, 2018 at 2:52 PM Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > When I try to follow the link it fails.
>
> Is failbook a banned domain where you work?
> Unfortunately, we don't want to know what Regina would do to Kaleb if he
> banned failbook on his home network.
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 29, 2018 at 2:52 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> When I try to follow the link it fails.

Is failbook a banned domain where you work?
Unfortunately, we don't want to know what Regina would do to Kaleb if he banned 
failbook on his home network. 

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

When I try to follow the link it fails.

-D

> On Jan 29, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:10:16 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> What do you all think about this one?
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/471840939878658
> 
> Since it's on facebook, nothing.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:10:16 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> What do you all think about this one?
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/471840939878658

Since it's on facebook, nothing.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A POS by any other name.

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> $400 junker for $2500.
>
> The base for the missing star must be worth at least $2100!
>
>> Craig via Mercedes 
>> January 22, 2018 at 10:22 PM
>> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:54:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>
>> Tired.
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

$400 junker for $2500.

The base for the missing star must be worth at least $2100!

Craig via Mercedes 
January 22, 2018 at 10:22 PM
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:54:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"

Tired.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:54:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Classic
> 
> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/classic-1972-mercedes-benz/6469308414.html

Tired.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

"Pretty good shape" = Trashed

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Mitch Haley via 
Mercedes wrote:   
Huh?
"Runs and drives great"
"Needs a fuel pump"

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I know in the 70s Dogde had the same wheel bearings as the 110 
chassis.   I fixed up a friend who needed to get back to KC, but his 
dogde had a bad front wheel bearing.  I told him to come out and I'd see 
what I could do.  Popped it out, looked at the number, recognized it was 
the same as MB.  Went out to my junker 190c, popped off the front hub, 
stuck the bearings in the dogde and sent him on the way!


I love it when a plan comes togetherespecially when there was no 
preconceived plan!

M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
December 30, 2017 at 11:15 AM
Where the deuce does one get one mag wheel with DB spacing?

-MMM-


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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

4 3/8 was one US Mfgr.  I can't remember which one.  Could be dogde or 
shovey?  112 MM is very close to 4 3/8


Junkyard?

M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
December 30, 2017 at 11:15 AM
Where the deuce does one get one mag wheel with DB spacing?

-MMM-


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Re: [MBZ] 108

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Where the deuce does one get one mag wheel with DB spacing?

-MMM-

On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> 70 Mercedes Benz 280 SEL
>
> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/70-mercedes-benz-280-
> sel/6442624492.html
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Huh?
"Runs and drives great"
"Needs a fuel pump"

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I'd be very careful with this one.  One of the top five most BORING color
combinations so very little upsside, plus a series of question marks that
could add up to big buck$ to resolve.

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Rust spots + damp driver's carpet = run away.

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> What do you 108 people think about this one?
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-SEL-/252190490677?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3ab7b98035:g:3xoAAOSwbdpWWp5e&item=252190490677
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Re: [MBZ] 108 vapor lock - was: This might be a decent buy

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Darren wrote:
> 
> Anyone familiar with 108 vapor lock issues?

What vapor lock?

My 108 (280SE 4.5) had the pump about 6 inches from the tank
- and down low. Pretty much no chance for classic vapor lock.
(fuel is vapor at the fuel pump so the fuel pump can't pump)

And mine had the electronic fuel injection (D-jet?  I don't
remember which "jet" it is) again making vapor lock nearly
impossible.

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Re: [MBZ] 108 needs modern engine

[Hendrik and Fay]

However the trade off is that they are also more complicated and have 
more expensive bits that could fail.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/mercedes-engine-transplant-modern-diesel-in-a-1992-190e-26

Hendrik
who would not mind a modern Diesel in the TE

On 30/08/13 13:00, Gary Hurst wrote:

i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today

which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
bucks for it





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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Craig]

On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:53:31 -0500 Rick Knoble 
wrote:

> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:04 PM, "Craig"  wrote:
> 
> > That's true, but the way it used to be, pictures over a certain size
> > were saved to the server's disk and links added to the bottom of the
> > email. That way an external picture site (which might require
> > registration) isn't necessary.
> 
> 
> Yes and the links are only good for x amount of days. Most folks tend
> to leave pictures on photo sharing sites indefinitely. I have emails in
> my archive going back nearly a decade. 

I wasn't aware of the expiration of email links. That, of course, could
be solved by downloading the pictures you want to have forever.

I, too, have emails going back a long ways.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Curt Raymond]

A quick glance at my iPhone 5 shows that there are no choices for image 
resolution. All of the "real" digital cameras I've had have a setting as does 
my GoPro.

On the iPhone I've got the Photobucket app, most stuff goes directly there for 
distribution.

-Curt


Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:50:23 -0500
From: Rick Knoble 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 photos
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:12 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> My Nikon Coolpix 775 has different sizes of pictures one can choose
> between. Do phones have the same capability?


I
 have an iPhone 3GS (3 generations out of date) and I can't choose size.
 I have an ancient Sony Mavica Fd something and it has a setting to take
 an email size pic along with whatever size you are taking. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Curt Raymond]

They won't roll up like foil, theres a rigid frame in there which will mostly 
hold together. I think they're 4 star Euroencap tested. However they don't have 
much for crumple zones to absorb force so that all gets transmitted into your 
body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDyeWofcLY

-Curt


Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:48:19 -0400
From: Larry T 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
Message-ID: <52213d53.4080...@comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Speaking of little cars, every time I see a MB "Smart Car" I think, 
Geez, I'd hate to be in that thing when I was involved in a wreck!  
They look like they'd roll up like aluminum foil.. but hopefully I'm 
wrong -  right?

LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Curt Raymond]

My wife and I watched an ad the other night for some new phone with a 40+ 
megapixel camera. I made fun of it mostly because every idiot with a phone now 
thinks they're the next Ansel Adams...

-Curt


Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:24:32 -0500
From: Rick Knoble 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 photos
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On Aug 30, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> It would have helped to have links to the pictures, or reasonable size
> pictures (say 1024x768) instead of the 2592x1936 (which is larger than my
> monitor at 1920x1200


I
 agree. That is the problem with phones that have 12 terapixel (I am 
being facetious) cameras. The inferior optics plus the over sized image 
sensor allow crappy pictures to be huge. 

There is a reason for 
Flickr, Picasa, Photobucket, DropBox, etc. They are easy to link to, and
 you can post as many digital images as you like. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Gerry Archer]

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Knoble" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 photos



On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:17 PM, "Gerry Archer" 
wrote:


There is a reason for Flickr, Picasa, Photobucket, DropBox, etc. They
are easy to link to, and you can post as many digital images as you
like.
Rick



Which is the simplest to join and use?
Thanks,
Gerry




It depends. If you have a yahoo account, Flickr is yahoos photo site. If
you have a google account, Picasa is theirs. They are pretty simple to
use, a couple of mouse clicks and every thing gets uploaded.

Rick


I've been using Picasa occasionally since it was created but didn't realise
its storage program was accessible publicly.  Early Picasa was simple and
easy to use, but its upgrades seem to have made it more complex.
Already being a Yahoo member, perhaps I'll try Flickr.
Thanks,
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Rick Knoble]

On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:17 PM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:

>> There is a reason for Flickr, Picasa, Photobucket, DropBox, etc. They are 
>> easy to link to, and you can post as many digital images as you like.
>> Rick

> Which is the simplest to join and use?
> Thanks,
> Gerry



It depends. If you have a yahoo account, Flickr is yahoos photo site. If you 
have a google account, Picasa is theirs. They are pretty simple to use, a 
couple of mouse clicks and every thing gets uploaded. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Rick Knoble]

On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:04 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> That's true, but the way it used to be, pictures over a certain size were
> saved to the server's disk and links added to the bottom of the email.
> That way an external picture site (which might require registration)
> isn't necessary.


Yes and the links are only good for x amount of days. Most folks tend to leave 
pictures on photo sharing sites indefinitely. I have emails in my archive going 
back nearly a decade. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Rick Knoble]

On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:12 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> My Nikon Coolpix 775 has different sizes of pictures one can choose
> between. Do phones have the same capability?


I have an iPhone 3GS (3 generations out of date) and I can't choose size. I 
have an ancient Sony Mavica Fd something and it has a setting to take an email 
size pic along with whatever size you are taking. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Mitch Haley]

Gary Hurst wrote:

i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today


In 1987, Road and Track said a non-turbo Dodge Omni would do 0-60 in 10.2 
seconds, same as a BMW 318i. That was considered fast for a basic $7000 
hatchback. A 2.3-16v would do 0-60 in 7.8 and cost $35k.


These days, the automotive press acts as if you're in danger of getting rear 
ended if you drive a car that's so underpowered it takes 8-10 seconds to get to 
60mph.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[OK Don]

Correct - you are wrong. They maintain their passenger compartment
size/shape. However, the decelleration is rather fast - you might not
survive the G-forces, even if you don't get crushed.


On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Larry T  wrote:

> Speaking of little cars, every time I see a MB "Smart Car" I think, Geez,
> I'd hate to be in that thing when I was involved in a wreck!   They look
> like they'd roll up like aluminum foil.. but hopefully I'm wrong -  right?
>
> LarryT
>
>>
>
>
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safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[mlh]

> It would have helped to have links to the pictures, or reasonable size
> pictures (say 1024x768) instead of the 2592x1936 (which is larger than my
> monitor at 1920x1200
>
>
> Craig

If I'd spent two hours downloading that 18mb message via dial-up I
wouldn't be too happy. As it was, I logged in to learn I'd used 43% of my
50MB email storage and couldn't figure out why 160 messages would be that
big.

Mitch


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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Larry T]

Speaking of little cars, every time I see a MB "Smart Car" I think, 
Geez, I'd hate to be in that thing when I was involved in a wreck!   
They look like they'd roll up like aluminum foil.. but hopefully I'm 
wrong -  right?


LarryT

On 8/30/2013 3:04 PM, clay wrote:

I am using my mothers Corolla while she is out of town.  I hate that car.  It 
is buzzy and feels like it is made of tinfoil and chicken wire.  You feel every 
ripple in the road and get whiplash when you strike an errant pebble.  I drove 
it to Montana and back a few years ago.  That was a mind rending experience.  
Eight plus hours of drone and skiffle about the roadway while your back and all 
ached from the poor support.

IT does get wonderful mileage though

clay


On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:01 AM, Richard Hattaway wrote:


Rented a Toyota Corolla the other day for a trip while the wife's car was in 
the shop.  It was one of the 'Sport' models.

That thing was a rocketship compared to any older MB I've owned.  Course most 
of my stuff was diesels, but did have a coupla M110 engines in my career.

The little nippon car handled like it was on rails, and although it did not see 
100 mph, it did see 40 mpg with great flair (c:



From: Gary Hurst 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108


i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today

which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
bucks for it


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
wrote:


Off with his head!


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst 
wrote:


compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM,  wrote:


Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit

that

thing was fast!  Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like.



Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick 

wrote:

It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears

instead of 3.88, uses less fuel.

I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway

if

you use only premium.

No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast.  Factory

specs

are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end.  It's

actually a

pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's
necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top

speed

is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you

can

push them faster.  You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you

do

(as in a couple runs).

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Larry T]

I had a slightly different epiphany - when i was doing 90in my 911 I 
could see way in the distance a big Buick slowly pulling out in 
front of me.   I thought - "They have no idea how fast I am 
approaching"  as I got on the brakes and slowed dramatically.  That was 
the last time i drove in "Go to Jail Territory".   It's just too 
dangerous.  People just don't expect a road rocket to be heading toward 
them and the fast driver has _/all /_the responsibility to avoid the 
accident. Many people can't even see a small sports car several hundred 
yards in the distance much less estimate how fast they're approaching.


BTW, i know I was being irresponsible by driving so fast on a public 
road and never drove that fast again...


BTW, a few years ago the speed limits in Montana and N. Dakota were not 
enforced.  I've even heard that people from Europe have brought their 
fast cars over specifically to drive on those interstates because the 
Autobahn was becoming so congested.That was on a program called 
/Modern Marvels - The Autobahn/ and included a great snip of a SL 
tumbling over and over from "high speed" then seeing the driver hop out 
and walk to the hill next to the highway. They said the Germans built 
cars that could survive and excel on the unlimited speed zones.  It was 
pretty impressive.  I believe it's still on Youtube in several parts 
BTW, there wasn't much left of that SL!


Larryt
91 300D

On 8/30/2013 1:41 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

the problems today is the penalty.  what used to get you a warning or maybe
a $100 fine today gets your car impounding, the night in jail and a 4
figure fine

i remember the encounter with police that finally convinced me you can't
drive fast anymore in the USA after decades of believing the driving time
between fort lauderdale and naples is about an hour.  it was about 3 years
ago on I-85 in NC.  i had been driving with another guy at about 120 but he
turned off, so i slowed down to a comfortable cruising speed.  about 5
minutes later the blue lights came on behind me.

"do you know why i pulled you over?"
"yeah, you felt obliged to because of my speed"
'do you know how fast you were going?"
"like 85ish.  maybe closer to 90"
"what??  why did you tell me that???"
"well, i mean, we both know how fast i was going, so why play games about
it?"
"do you know what i'm supposed to do now?"
"well, judging by your tone, i am unaware"
"i'm supposed to impound your car and arrest you.  then, after you get out
of jail, you'll have to return in person to stand trial"
"what???"
"look, i'm writing you up for 79 in a 65.  please be more careful in the
future!"

so i heeded his warning and no longer drive fast.  in fact, i mostly just
ride a bicycle nowadays


On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:


Depends on where you are. Head north of Bangor, Maine on I95 and the speed
limit is 75mph, everybody is cruising at 85mph +

-Curt

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 23:30:53 -0400
From: Gary Hurst 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
Message-ID:
 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today

which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
bucks for it
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Larry T]

Came across an article in Octane about this company doing "resto-mods" 
on older MBs.  Very impressive MBs!!


http://mechatronik.de/

Enjoy -
Larry

On 8/30/2013 9:01 AM, Richard Hattaway wrote:

Rented a Toyota Corolla the other day for a trip while the wife's car was in 
the shop.  It was one of the 'Sport' models.

That thing was a rocketship compared to any older MB I've owned.  Course most 
of my stuff was diesels, but did have a coupla M110 engines in my career.

The little nippon car handled like it was on rails, and although it did not see 
100 mph, it did see 40 mpg with great flair (c:



  From: Gary Hurst 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
  


i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today

which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
bucks for it


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
wrote:


Off with his head!


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst 
wrote:


compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM,  wrote:


Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit

that

thing was fast!  Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like.



Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick 

wrote:

It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears

instead of 3.88, uses less fuel.

I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway

if

you use only premium.

No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast.  Factory

specs

are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end.  It's

actually a

pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's
necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top

speed

is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you

can

push them faster.  You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you

do

(as in a couple runs).

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Gerry Archer]

Which is the simplest to join and use?
Thanks,
Gerry

There is a reason for Flickr, Picasa, Photobucket, DropBox, etc. They are 
easy to link to, and you can post as many digital images as you like.

Rick



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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Craig]

On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:24:32 -0500 Rick Knoble 
wrote:

> On Aug 30, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Craig"  wrote:
> 
> > It would have helped to have links to the pictures, or reasonable size
> > pictures (say 1024x768) instead of the 2592x1936 (which is larger
> > than my monitor at 1920x1200
> 
> I agree. That is the problem with phones that have 12 terapixel (I am
> being facetious) cameras. The inferior optics plus the over sized image
> sensor allow crappy pictures to be huge. 

My Nikon Coolpix 775 has different sizes of pictures one can choose
between. Do phones have the same capability?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Craig]

On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:19:21 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> Here are some more photos of that 108

Nice looking car for its age.

It would have helped to have links to the pictures, or reasonable size
pictures (say 1024x768) instead of the 2592x1936 (which is larger than my
monitor at 1920x1200


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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Gary Hurst]

the problems today is the penalty.  what used to get you a warning or maybe
a $100 fine today gets your car impounding, the night in jail and a 4
figure fine

i remember the encounter with police that finally convinced me you can't
drive fast anymore in the USA after decades of believing the driving time
between fort lauderdale and naples is about an hour.  it was about 3 years
ago on I-85 in NC.  i had been driving with another guy at about 120 but he
turned off, so i slowed down to a comfortable cruising speed.  about 5
minutes later the blue lights came on behind me.

"do you know why i pulled you over?"
"yeah, you felt obliged to because of my speed"
'do you know how fast you were going?"
"like 85ish.  maybe closer to 90"
"what??  why did you tell me that???"
"well, i mean, we both know how fast i was going, so why play games about
it?"
"do you know what i'm supposed to do now?"
"well, judging by your tone, i am unaware"
"i'm supposed to impound your car and arrest you.  then, after you get out
of jail, you'll have to return in person to stand trial"
"what???"
"look, i'm writing you up for 79 in a 65.  please be more careful in the
future!"

so i heeded his warning and no longer drive fast.  in fact, i mostly just
ride a bicycle nowadays


On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Depends on where you are. Head north of Bangor, Maine on I95 and the speed
> limit is 75mph, everybody is cruising at 85mph +
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 23:30:53 -0400
> From: Gary Hurst 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today
>
> which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
> gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
> bucks for it
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[dseretakis]

True but with all that sound deadening and suspension isolation you don't 
realize the power. New powerful cars bore the crap out of me. A 100 hp BMW 
feels and sounds a lot faster than new stuff even though its a complete joke nt 
today's standards.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that
>> thing was fast!  Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:
>> 
>>> It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears
>> instead of 3.88, uses less fuel.
>>> 
>>> I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway if
>> you use only premium.
>>> 
>>> No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast.  Factory specs
>> are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end.  It's actually a
>> pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's
>> necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top speed
>> is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you can
>> push them faster.  You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you do
>> (as in a couple runs).
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[clay]

I am using my mothers Corolla while she is out of town.  I hate that car.  It 
is buzzy and feels like it is made of tinfoil and chicken wire.  You feel every 
ripple in the road and get whiplash when you strike an errant pebble.  I drove 
it to Montana and back a few years ago.  That was a mind rending experience.  
Eight plus hours of drone and skiffle about the roadway while your back and all 
ached from the poor support.

IT does get wonderful mileage though

clay


On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:01 AM, Richard Hattaway wrote:

> Rented a Toyota Corolla the other day for a trip while the wife's car was in 
> the shop.  It was one of the 'Sport' models.
> 
> That thing was a rocketship compared to any older MB I've owned.  Course most 
> of my stuff was diesels, but did have a coupla M110 engines in my career.  
> 
> The little nippon car handled like it was on rails, and although it did not 
> see 100 mph, it did see 40 mpg with great flair (c:
> 
> 
> 
> From: Gary Hurst 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
> 
> 
> i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today
> 
> which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
> gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
> bucks for it
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
> wrote:
> 
>> Off with his head!
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM,  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit
>> that
>>>> thing was fast!  Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears
>>>> instead of 3.88, uses less fuel.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway
>> if
>>>> you use only premium.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast.  Factory
>>> specs
>>>> are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end.  It's
>> actually a
>>>> pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's
>>>> necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top
>>> speed
>>>> is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you
>>> can
>>>> push them faster.  You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you
>> do
>>>> (as in a couple runs).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Curt Raymond]

Depends on where you are. Head north of Bangor, Maine on I95 and the speed 
limit is 75mph, everybody is cruising at 85mph +

-Curt

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 23:30:53 -0400
From: Gary Hurst 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today

which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
bucks for it
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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Craig]

On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:24:32 -0500 Rick Knoble 
wrote:

> On Aug 30, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Craig"  wrote:
> 
> > It would have helped to have links to the pictures, or reasonable size
> > pictures (say 1024x768) instead of the 2592x1936 (which is larger
> > than my monitor at 1920x1200
> 
> I agree. That is the problem with phones that have 12 terapixel (I am
> being facetious) cameras. The inferior optics plus the over sized image
> sensor allow crappy pictures to be huge. 
> 
> There is a reason for Flickr, Picasa, Photobucket, DropBox, etc. They
> are easy to link to, and you can post as many digital images as you
> like. 

That's true, but the way it used to be, pictures over a certain size were
saved to the server's disk and links added to the bottom of the email.
That way an external picture site (which might require registration)
isn't necessary.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

One other thing too, even though some folks like the 6 cylinder better, I still 
think I would rather have a v8. I have had a couple of 4.5s none drivable tough 
and ended up selling them before fixing them. Even had a 300sel once.

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On Aug 30, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Consider that you have a tendency to either flip stuff or sit on it for a 
> while.  It's not going to appreciate in value, at least not for some time.  
> If you let it sit it's going to be problematic, as the fuel system won't like 
> it.
> 
> I think you would be wise to pass.  At least until you find me a nice finnie 
> like the one you bought cheap off of Toad.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> 
>> I think I am going to pass on it as I do not have any other 108 parts cars 
>> and no telling what I would be getting involved with. Going to look at a ran 
>> when parked a year ago 87 300d for $1k only a few miles away
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Now that was a car that was an example of a car that was a mistake to buy. Toad 
had it a long time, stores it inside so it could sit for a long long time. I do 
not have any indoor storage so it sat outside. And old car like that will ruin 
quick because they usually leak water. So that car filled up with water and got 
all musty and moldy inside. I ended up selling it for about $600. So that is 
what I would be worried about with this car. If and when I get a big shop build 
and can store cars inside, then I will think about it. I would still like to 
have one someday. It's bad enough leaving my 115s outside. As to more modern 
cars like a 124, you can leave them outside and they will not leak water etc 
like an old car

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On Aug 30, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Consider that you have a tendency to either flip stuff or sit on it for a 
> while.  It's not going to appreciate in value, at least not for some time.  
> If you let it sit it's going to be problematic, as the fuel system won't like 
> it.
> 
> I think you would be wise to pass.  At least until you find me a nice finnie 
> like the one you bought cheap off of Toad.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> 
>> I think I am going to pass on it as I do not have any other 108 parts cars 
>> and no telling what I would be getting involved with. Going to look at a ran 
>> when parked a year ago 87 300d for $1k only a few miles away
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Rick Knoble]

On Aug 30, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> It would have helped to have links to the pictures, or reasonable size
> pictures (say 1024x768) instead of the 2592x1936 (which is larger than my
> monitor at 1920x1200


I agree. That is the problem with phones that have 12 terapixel (I am being 
facetious) cameras. The inferior optics plus the over sized image sensor allow 
crappy pictures to be huge. 

There is a reason for Flickr, Picasa, Photobucket, DropBox, etc. They are easy 
to link to, and you can post as many digital images as you like. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Dan Penoff]

Consider that you have a tendency to either flip stuff or sit on it for a 
while.  It's not going to appreciate in value, at least not for some time.  If 
you let it sit it's going to be problematic, as the fuel system won't like it.

I think you would be wise to pass.  At least until you find me a nice finnie 
like the one you bought cheap off of Toad.

Dan

On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> I think I am going to pass on it as I do not have any other 108 parts cars 
> and no telling what I would be getting involved with. Going to look at a ran 
> when parked a year ago 87 300d for $1k only a few miles away
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I think I am going to pass on it as I do not have any other 108 parts cars and 
no telling what I would be getting involved with. Going to look at a ran when 
parked a year ago 87 300d for $1k only a few miles away

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:19:21 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Here are some more photos of that 108
> 
> Nice looking car for its age.
> 
> It would have helped to have links to the pictures, or reasonable size
> pictures (say 1024x768) instead of the 2592x1936 (which is larger than my
> monitor at 1920x1200
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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I noticed that and it appears like it has some surface rust under 
the trim on that back door on that side.  In any case, $2700 is as 
low as the dude will go.


On 8/30/2013 4:48 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

You might be able to get a paintless dent repair guy to work those creases out 
of the left rear quarter. They'll probably want you to agree that they might 
crack the paint and won't be responsible if they do.

I've found that the older MB paint is pretty resilient.  I had one of the 
classic dings in the top of the fender on a 108 taken out without damage.  
Worst case, the lines of the car are right and the paint has some cracks.  
That's easier to hide than the dings.

Dan

   
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Re: [MBZ] 108 photos

[Dan Penoff]

You might be able to get a paintless dent repair guy to work those creases out 
of the left rear quarter. They'll probably want you to agree that they might 
crack the paint and won't be responsible if they do.

I've found that the older MB paint is pretty resilient.  I had one of the 
classic dings in the top of the fender on a 108 taken out without damage.  
Worst case, the lines of the car are right and the paint has some cracks.  
That's easier to hide than the dings.

Dan

  
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> Here are some more photos of that 108
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Randy Bennell]

On 30/08/2013 2:04 PM, clay wrote:

I am using my mothers Corolla while she is out of town.  I hate that car.  It 
is buzzy and feels like it is made of tinfoil and chicken wire.  You feel every 
ripple in the road and get whiplash when you strike an errant pebble.  I drove 
it to Montana and back a few years ago.  That was a mind rending experience.  
Eight plus hours of drone and skiffle about the roadway while your back and all 
ached from the poor support.

IT does get wonderful mileage though

clay



I don't think it is intended for the highway. We had a rental Corolla 
once when we went to Victoria BC. Very smooth little car in city 
traffic. No real freeways there however.


I did not come away wanting to own one, but it was better than I had 
expected.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Randy Bennell]

We were just down to Fargo ND and I29 is 75 mph limit the whole way.
I am amazed at how nicely my Supercrew rolls along at 75+ mph.
At 75 mpoh  it is under 2K rpm.

Randy


On 30/08/2013 12:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Depends on where you are. Head north of Bangor, Maine on I95 and the speed 
limit is 75mph, everybody is cruising at 85mph +

-Curt

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 23:30:53 -0400
From: Gary Hurst 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
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i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today

which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
bucks for it
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Richard Hattaway]

Rented a Toyota Corolla the other day for a trip while the wife's car was in 
the shop.  It was one of the 'Sport' models.

That thing was a rocketship compared to any older MB I've owned.  Course most 
of my stuff was diesels, but did have a coupla M110 engines in my career.  

The little nippon car handled like it was on rails, and although it did not see 
100 mph, it did see 40 mpg with great flair (c:



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
 

i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today

which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
bucks for it


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
wrote:

> Off with his head!
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
>
> > compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM,  wrote:
> >
> > > Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit
> that
> > > thing was fast!  Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears
> > > instead of 3.88, uses less fuel.
> > > >
> > > > I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway
> if
> > > you use only premium.
> > > >
> > > > No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast.  Factory
> > specs
> > > are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end.  It's
> actually a
> > > pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's
> > > necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top
> > speed
> > > is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you
> > can
> > > push them faster.  You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you
> do
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Gary Hurst]

i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today

which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
bucks for it


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
wrote:

> Off with his head!
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
>
> > compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM,  wrote:
> >
> > > Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit
> that
> > > thing was fast!  Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears
> > > instead of 3.88, uses less fuel.
> > > >
> > > > I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway
> if
> > > you use only premium.
> > > >
> > > > No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast.  Factory
> > specs
> > > are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end.  It's
> actually a
> > > pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's
> > > necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top
> > speed
> > > is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you
> > can
> > > push them faster.  You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you
> do
> > > (as in a couple runs).
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] 108

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Off with his head!


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM,  wrote:
>
> > Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that
> > thing was fast!  Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick 
> wrote:
> >
> > > It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears
> > instead of 3.88, uses less fuel.
> > >
> > > I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway if
> > you use only premium.
> > >
> > > No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast.  Factory
> specs
> > are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end.  It's actually a
> > pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's
> > necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top
> speed
> > is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you
> can
> > push them faster.  You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you do
> > (as in a couple runs).
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Gary Hurst]

compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM,  wrote:

> Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that
> thing was fast!  Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:
>
> > It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears
> instead of 3.88, uses less fuel.
> >
> > I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway if
> you use only premium.
> >
> > No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast.  Factory specs
> are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end.  It's actually a
> pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's
> necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top speed
> is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you can
> push them faster.  You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you do
> (as in a couple runs).
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 108

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I owned a 280SE 6 cyl. sedan, several 280SE 3.5 coupes and a 3.5 sedan.
They were all awesome and fun to drive.  The 3.5s were fast, dependable,
and reasonably fuel efficient.  The 280Se was my first concours winner.  I
loved driving at night with the colorful dash lights and slightly growly
EFI engine.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM,  wrote:

> Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that
> thing was fast!  Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:
>
> > It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears
> instead of 3.88, uses less fuel.
> >
> > I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway if
> you use only premium.
> >
> > No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast.  Factory specs
> are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end.  It's actually a
> pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's
> necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top speed
> is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you can
> push them faster.  You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you do
> (as in a couple runs).
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 108

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Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that thing 
was fast!  Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like.



Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:

> It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears instead 
> of 3.88, uses less fuel.
> 
> I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway if you 
> use only premium.
> 
> No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast.  Factory specs are 
> 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end.  It's actually a pain to 
> drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's necessary to 
> keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top speed is 125 for the 
> 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you can push them 
> faster.  You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you do (as in a 
> couple runs).
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Peter Frederick]

It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears  
instead of 3.88, uses less fuel.


I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway  
if you use only premium.


No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast.  Factory  
specs are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end.  It's  
actually a pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go  
faster and it's necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the  
speed limit. Top speed is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes,  
although if you are brave you can push them faster.  You will wear the  
cylinders out pretty fast if you do (as in a couple runs).


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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Curt Raymond]

I guess I don't understand this, are you suggesting that the 4.5 wasn't very 
fuel hungry with its mid-high teens fuel economy?

-Curt

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:19:53 -0500
From: Peter Frederick 
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My 280SE 4.5 got 17 mpg on the highway, and really wanted to run at 90  
and up  Enormous power out of the 4.5L, much more (and at much  
lower rpm) than the sixes, which were screaming at highway speed and  
as a result very fuel hungry (upper teens to very low 20's mpg).

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[dseretakis]

My 2.8 L FI pagoda is quite powerful and quite thirsty!

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On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.  A
> nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> 
>> When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body?
>> I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would
>> probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking
>> about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Peter Frederick]

My 280SE 4.5 got 17 mpg on the highway, and really wanted to run at 90  
and up  Enormous power out of the 4.5L, much more (and at much  
lower rpm) than the sixes, which were screaming at highway speed and  
as a result very fuel hungry (upper teens to very low 20's mpg).


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Dieselhead]

My pick of the 108 litter would be a 280SEL.  If the FI got too 
costly, I am sure I could snag a  FI system off a 3.3 dogde or 
similar and adapticate it.  However if the pump is cared for, they 
will last a lifetime or more.


The M130/M180 is so smooth and quiet.  They are nice engines, 
especially euro/pre-smog


250SE is not bad
250S with webers would be nice

Dan can have all the warped nasty zenights he wants.  Another 
possibility is to snag the dual 2 barrel solexes off an early 220S 
M180.  those just run.


111/112 is nice too.  This grille is not as big though.

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Larry T]

Me too - I've owned 3 W108's with the last being a 4.5 - that engine was 
amazing - really smooth and powerful - that 280SEL was great on the 
interstate!  Got terrible mpg's but a joy to drive.  My 280SEwas an 
awesome car also - and the engine got low 20s mpg's.  Also a beautiful 
car only lacking a big honking V8!


Larryt

On 8/29/2013 5:12 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

I saw it about 10 days ago. It is nice. Wish I had a 108

On Thursday, August 29, 2013, Jon Agne  wrote:

You bet.  Also has very nice door panels.

On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


Oh boy, I may have to get with you on that. Got the carpet etc in green

also?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:


That would be meif you like pristine green leather!


On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:


I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for

that baby:)

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:


Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and

the upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice.

Buy it, ship it to me for the full "Martha" treatment, then come get

it.

Dan

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On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" 

wrote:

What do you think about this?


http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html

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On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski 

wrote:

I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the

v8s.  A

nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.

Jaime


On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to

that body?

I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6

would

probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to

thinking

about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Dwight Giles]

I saw it about 10 days ago. It is nice. Wish I had a 108

On Thursday, August 29, 2013, Jon Agne  wrote:
> You bet.  Also has very nice door panels.
>
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
>> Oh boy, I may have to get with you on that. Got the carpet etc in green
also?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>>
>>> That would be meif you like pristine green leather!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
 I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for
that baby:)

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and
the upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice.
>
> Buy it, ship it to me for the full "Martha" treatment, then come get
it.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
wrote:
>
>> What do you think about this?
>>
>>> http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski 
wrote:
>>
>>> I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the
v8s.  A
>>> nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
>>>
>>> Jaime
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>>>
 When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to
that body?
 I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6
would
 probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to
thinking
 about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Jon Agne]

You bet.  Also has very nice door panels.

On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> Oh boy, I may have to get with you on that. Got the carpet etc in green also?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
>> That would be meif you like pristine green leather!
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> 
>>> I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for that 
>>> baby:)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>>> 
 Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the 
 upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice.
 
 Buy it, ship it to me for the full "Martha" treatment, then come get it.
 
 Dan
 
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 wrote:
 
> What do you think about this?
> 
>> http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
> 
>> I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.  A
>> nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> 
>>> When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that 
>>> body?
>>> I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would
>>> probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to 
>>> thinking
>>> about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Oh boy, I may have to get with you on that. Got the carpet etc in green also?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> That would be meif you like pristine green leather!
> 
> 
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
>> I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for that 
>> baby:)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>>> Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the 
>>> upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice.
>>> 
>>> Buy it, ship it to me for the full "Martha" treatment, then come get it.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 What do you think about this?
 
> http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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> I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.  A
> nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> 
>> When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that 
>> body?
>> I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would
>> probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to 
>> thinking
>> about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Jon Agne]

That would be meif you like pristine green leather!


On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

> I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for that 
> baby:)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the 
>> upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice.
>> 
>> Buy it, ship it to me for the full "Martha" treatment, then come get it.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
>> 
>>> What do you think about this?
>>> 
 http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>>> 
 I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.  A
 nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
> When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body?
> I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would
> probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking
> about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[dseretakis]

I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for that baby:)

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On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the 
> upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice.
> 
> Buy it, ship it to me for the full "Martha" treatment, then come get it.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
> 
>> What do you think about this?
>> 
>>> http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.  A
>>> nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
>>> 
>>> Jaime
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>>> 
 When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body?
 I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would
 probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking
 about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[dseretakis]

And it's a 6- just to your liking.

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On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> i'd be interested
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> 
>> What do you think about this?
>> 
>>> http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.  A
>>> nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
>>> 
>>> Jaime
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>>> 
 When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that
>> body?
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 probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[dseretakis]

That's pretty darn nice.

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> What do you think about this?
> 
>> http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html
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> 
>> I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.  A
>> nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> 
>>> When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body?
>>> I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would
>>> probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking
>>> about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Gary Hurst]

it's very likely worth 3 but consider that he'll get it for 2500 or less.
but i'm guessing someone has already bought it in the low to mid 2 grand
range


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the
> upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice.
>
> Buy it, ship it to me for the full "Martha" treatment, then come get it.
>
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> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
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>
> > What do you think about this?
> >
> >> http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.
>  A
> >> nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
> >>
> >> Jaime
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >>
> >>> When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that
> body?
> >>> I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would
> >>> probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to
> thinking
> >>> about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.
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Re: [MBZ] 108

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Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the 
upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice.

Buy it, ship it to me for the full "Martha" treatment, then come get it.

Dan

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> What do you think about this?
> 
>> http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
> 
>> I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.  A
>> nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> 
>>> When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body?
>>> I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would
>>> probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking
>>> about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Gary Hurst]

i'd be interested


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> What do you think about this?
>
> > http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>
> > I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.  A
> > nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >
> >> When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that
> body?
> >> I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would
> >> probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to
> thinking
> >> about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

What do you think about this?

> http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html

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On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.  A
> nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> 
>> When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body?
>> I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would
>> probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking
>> about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Dan Penoff]

I had a couple that leaked on my 1970 250C, but after they were rebuilt and the 
air cleaner bolt properly tightened I never had a problem with them after that.

On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> you would be less happy with them overall had they leaked
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> Now don't start trashing the Zeniths.
>> 
>> Jaime and I will have to start defending them. Again.
>> 
>> Maybe it's just me, but I had at least three MBs with Zeniths over the
>> years, and I never had a problem with them once they were adjusted and set
>> up properly.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>> 
 I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.
>> A
 nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
>>> 
>>> The M130 in our 250C (convertible) ran quite nicely.  IIRC.
>>> The Zenith carbs, however...
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Gary Hurst]

you would be less happy with them overall had they leaked


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> Now don't start trashing the Zeniths.
>
> Jaime and I will have to start defending them. Again.
>
> Maybe it's just me, but I had at least three MBs with Zeniths over the
> years, and I never had a problem with them once they were adjusted and set
> up properly.
>
> Dan
>
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>
> >> I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.
>  A
> >> nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
> >
> > The M130 in our 250C (convertible) ran quite nicely.  IIRC.
> > The Zenith carbs, however...
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Dan Penoff]

Now don't start trashing the Zeniths.

Jaime and I will have to start defending them. Again.

Maybe it's just me, but I had at least three MBs with Zeniths over the years, 
and I never had a problem with them once they were adjusted and set up properly.

Dan

On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>> I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.  A
>> nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.
> 
> The M130 in our 250C (convertible) ran quite nicely.  IIRC.
> The Zenith carbs, however...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Jim Cathey]

I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. 
 A

nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.


The M130 in our 250C (convertible) ran quite nicely.  IIRC.
The Zenith carbs, however...

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Jaime Kopchinski]

I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s.  A
nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful.

Jaime


On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body?
> I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would
> probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking
> about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Jim Cathey]

The "E" originally meant "fuel injected" - and I think for the 108
vintage cars it still did.


Until the letters came in front, in the 90's, that's
exactly (and only) what "E" meant.  Not definitive,
though, as SL's (starting with the gullwing/300)
never had an "E", even when fuel-injected.

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Dan Penoff]

I have never owned a 108 with a V-8, but the ones I had with the inline six 
were good cars and did well in the road.

I like the simplicity of the sizes and the amount of space in the engine 
compartment they give you. The V-8s always sort of scared me with their fuel 
systems and the appearance of being shoehorned into the car.

>From what I understand the performance wasn't that great with the larger 
>engines, either, but that's hearsay for me.

Dan

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> When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I 
> think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably 
> be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this 
> and wondered what some of you 108 people thought.
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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Fmiser]

> Kaleb wrote:
> 
> The 280SE and SEL are fuel injected.  I believe there are other
> fuel injected models also.

The "E" originally meant "fuel injected" - and I think for the 108
vintage cars it still did.

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Dieselhead]

FI sixes are mechanical, and you gotta have really deep pockets to 
keep them running these days -- on top of the fact that several 
parts were NLA a decade ago.


Still weak in the knees compared to the V8, and fuel hungry.

Peter


Buy a 280S and let Dan show off his carb expertise.

Or you could  buy the webers from Larry

or you could convert to EFI with the holly kit or parts robbed from 
merkun iron in the junkyard.


Or you could pay Neil at Star motors to convert it to EFI.  He was 
converting a $$$ M100 $$$ when I was there to visit.



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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Peter Frederick]

FI sixes are mechanical, and you gotta have really deep pockets to  
keep them running these days -- on top of the fact that several parts  
were NLA a decade ago.


Still weak in the knees compared to the V8, and fuel hungry.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 108

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

The 280SE and SEL are fuel injected.  I believe there are other fuel 
injected models also.



On 8/28/2013 10:01 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
The V8 is a beast, but a bit front heavy.  Most noticeable when 
braking hard as it doesn't have anti-dive geometry and the nose drops 
horribly.


The six is rather breathless at high speeds and doesn't get better 
milage than the V8, and is distinctly short on performance.  Not 
available with FI, only with a pair of 2bls that are often roasted by 
stuck hear risers.


If you are lusting after a V8, I have a parts car for you.

Peter

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