Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
Kevin - I have an 81SD and I screwed around with all that stupid valve system on top of the valve cover. If I understand its purpose is twofold, first to control the EGR system, and second to modulate the vacuum signal to the vacuum modulator on the tranny. Well on my car it seems that a BB somehow found its way into the vacuum line to the EGR valve so why control that. I finally just disconnected all that plumbing and rely on the vacuum control valve down below the ALDA to control the vacuum signal. My first to second shift is a bit firm when the tranny is cold but settles down rapidly. Actually I kinda like a slightly firm shift as I figure it tends to save the clutch pack a bit. I know it's not factory but it works for me! On another note I'm kinda exited about how the old girl is running now as I just recently rebuilt my injectors and installed new Monarch nozzles. Man I now wished that I had done that years ago. I likely would not have gone through all those broken air cleaner mounting brackets and sagging motor mounts. The engine doesn't shake near as much, and I can really notice a difference as I can make fine adjustments to the rack damper screw. I still need to do another fine adjustment to that after I get it really good and warmed up. I also have to lower the idle speed as it's a bit fast now. What I found when I tested the injectors was that all the injectors had a pretty good spray pattern when they cracked and they were still within about 10 Bar of each other but the number 3 injector would pee a bit just before and after it cracked. That must have been causing the poor running. Oh yeah, I get a lot less soot now when taking off from a light. These were the original injectors and had about 225K miles on them so they did their job. It was pretty cool too I was able to clean up and lap out all the other parts in the injector bodies and I really lucked out as I only had to change one shim for the entire set to get within 3 Bar delta P between them. It was so worth the time and trouble. Barry Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
The '83 300D has been flairing for over 100K since I bought it. Sometimes think about replacing the parts that will fix it but have gotten so used to it the way it is, why bother? Gerry I sold the rusty, trusty, high mileage 240D, so now it's onto the next Mercedes Diesel. I found a couple for around $1K. The first one is a 1981 300D with the ACCII setup (no servo), and a 1982 300SD, both near 300Kmi. The 300SD is supposedly a good runner with good body and interior as is the 300D. It does have a couple issues. First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it's warming up, but it's normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN? Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, Kein MB Diesel for now ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
I think the correct word is flaring. On 6/5/12, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The '83 300D has been flairing for over 100K since I bought it. Sometimes think about replacing the parts that will fix it but have gotten so used to it the way it is, why bother? Gerry I sold the rusty, trusty, high mileage 240D, so now it's onto the next Mercedes Diesel. I found a couple for around $1K. The first one is a 1981 300D with the ACCII setup (no servo), and a 1982 300SD, both near 300Kmi. The 300SD is supposedly a good runner with good body and interior as is the 300D. It does have a couple issues. First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it's warming up, but it's normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN? Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, Kein MB Diesel for now ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
He's talking about Nature Boy Ric Flair --R On 6/5/12 10:17 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I think the correct word is flaring. On 6/5/12, Gerry Archerarche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The '83 300D has been flairing for over 100K since I bought it. Sometimes think about replacing the parts that will fix it but have gotten so used to it the way it is, why bother? Gerry I sold the rusty, trusty, high mileage 240D, so now it's onto the next Mercedes Diesel. I found a couple for around $1K. The first one is a 1981 300D with the ACCII setup (no servo), and a 1982 300SD, both near 300Kmi. The 300SD is supposedly a good runner with good body and interior as is the 300D. It does have a couple issues. First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it's warming up, but it's normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN? Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, Kein MB Diesel for now ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
You young guys misspell so many words, I forget the true spelling and my declining memory doesn't help either. Many people born after WW-2 don't know how to spell. It's because of the whole word learning system adopted by many schools back then that enriched textbook publishers because schools had to buy from the same publishers that had the next set of words. Phonics is better but schools should actually go back to the old McGuffeys Readers which simply taught syllabication. Of course, with everybody texting, the Queens English will soon be a dead language. (End of rant) Gerry From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net He's talking about Nature Boy Ric Flair --R On 6/5/12 10:17 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I think the correct word is flaring. On 6/5/12, Gerry Archerarche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The '83 300D has been flairing for over 100K since I bought it. Sometimes think about replacing the parts that will fix it but have gotten so used to it the way it is, why bother? Gerry I sold the rusty, trusty, high mileage 240D, so now it's onto the next Mercedes Diesel. I found a couple for around $1K. The first one is a 1981 300D with the ACCII setup (no servo), and a 1982 300SD, both near 300Kmi. The 300SD is supposedly a good runner with good body and interior as is the 300D. It does have a couple issues. First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it's warming up, but it's normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN? Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, Kein MB Diesel for now ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5046 - Release Date: 06/05/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
There all loosers --R On 6/5/12 11:12 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: You young guys misspell so many words, I forget the true spelling and my declining memory doesn't help either. Many people born after WW-2 don't know how to spell. It's because of the whole word learning system adopted by many schools back then that enriched textbook publishers because schools had to buy from the same publishers that had the next set of words. Phonics is better but schools should actually go back to the old McGuffeys Readers which simply taught syllabication. Of course, with everybody texting, the Queens English will soon be a dead language. (End of rant) Gerry From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net He's talking about Nature Boy Ric Flair --R On 6/5/12 10:17 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I think the correct word is flaring. On 6/5/12, Gerry Archerarche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The '83 300D has been flairing for over 100K since I bought it. Sometimes think about replacing the parts that will fix it but have gotten so used to it the way it is, why bother? Gerry I sold the rusty, trusty, high mileage 240D, so now it's onto the next Mercedes Diesel. I found a couple for around $1K. The first one is a 1981 300D with the ACCII setup (no servo), and a 1982 300SD, both near 300Kmi. The 300SD is supposedly a good runner with good body and interior as is the 300D. It does have a couple issues. First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it's warming up, but it's normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN? Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, Kein MB Diesel for now ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5046 - Release Date: 06/05/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
I would go with the 126 Kevin. Though they are not as ubiquitous as the 123, the finish is nicer and lots more room. You can use much of the same parts as the 123 to keep it on the road. I am not enamored of the 123, it is common and most of them do not get the care they deserved by being the everyday car, where the 126 might have been given more attention early on, thus extending its future life. Neither car is rare. Finding a gasser of either model is nigh impossible in seattle. Market is flooded with diesels. clay On Jun 4, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: Thanks, Alan. I'm going to be more particular with this next car than the 240D, and I'm giving this next one a better LOOK before I hand over the CASH. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
I agree. I was going to improve Frosch by removing the AC clutter, since it does not function. Mechanic told me not to. I would gain no measurable power and probably piss off the next owner when he wanted to do a complete restore and it was missing all the a/c goodies. I decided that when I have spare cash and am feeling particularly foolish and stupid, I will go over the whole thing bit by bit and renew all seals and have non-operable parts made good. Probably will never get it to working, but at least it should hold charge and could become functional at a later date. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 4, 2012, at 8:25 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Do NOT buy a car that's been improved by removing vital parts. On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks, Alan. I'm going to be more particular with this next car than the 240D, and I'm giving this next one a better LOOK before I hand over the CASH. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
It could just be an issue with fluid level and gunk in the filter. What does the fluid look like? High miles and minimal care would doom a transmission. Does he have records? I was pretty pleased that Frosch had records since 1987 that showed continual care and major work was done as needed. That the worst the guys at the benz dealer would say about it was that it was an old car. If most everything is all there and it looks like you can use it without immediate draining of wallet and bank, it might be a good gamble. clay On Jun 4, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Fmiser wrote: Kevin Kraly wrote: First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it’s warming up, but it’s normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN? Isn't a K1 spring a cure for 2-3 flairs? But if it's only when cold, probably not the spring. If the lines to the vacuum switch were just left open, it should shift hard. But if it's plumbed straight though, I think the transmission will shift like you are at an idle - ie, very soft. But again, I would expect that to be the same warm or cold. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
car would have to be excessively inexpensive for me to bite, knowing I would have to redo the trans that quickly. Budget $2k for a trans, and the car would have to come in at $1k, have no other issue and be wanting only fluids, filters and detailing clay On Jun 4, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net writes: Thanks, Alan. I'm going to be more particular with this next car than the 240D, and I'm giving this next one a better LOOK before I hand over the CASH. If it's an otherwise very solid car, might be worth the time and cost to put in a rebuilt transmission. That's a pretty big IF though. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
I learned phonics, I think most everybody has for the last 30 years or so... -Curt Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:12:04 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question Message-ID: 1B29DB9B0952449585ABA585D0EB3D64@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response You young guys misspell so many words, I forget the true spelling and my declining memory doesn't help either. Many people born after WW-2 don't know how to spell. It's because of the whole word learning system adopted by many schools back then that enriched textbook publishers because schools had to buy from the same publishers that had the next set of words. Phonics is better but schools should actually go back to the old McGuffeys Readers which simply taught syllabication. Of course, with everybody texting, the Queens English will soon be a dead language. (End of rant) Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
Curt Raymond wrote: I learned phonics, I think most everybody has for the last 30 years or so... Phonics has gone in and out of style for a long time. Around 1940, when my mom learned to read, it was in fashion. 1945ish, my grandma taught my aunt to read at home because they weren't teaching it in schools. Late 1960s they acted like it was some great new thing when I learned it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
Had phonics in the mid/late 60's in my part of Indiana. By the mid 70's it had already fallen by the wayside. Dan On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I learned phonics, I think most everybody has for the last 30 years or so... Phonics has gone in and out of style for a long time. Around 1940, when my mom learned to read, it was in fashion. 1945ish, my grandma taught my aunt to read at home because they weren't teaching it in schools. Late 1960s they acted like it was some great new thing when I learned it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
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Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
I went to look at the 1982 300SD today, and it didn't follow me home. It had many strengths although it had lots of little issues, but one big thing chased me off. The first red flag went up when he pulled in with the car as we were pulling up. I personally like to start a car cold to see what's going on. It didn't have any blowby at 301K which was impressive! The tranny problem wasn't serious. Just a messed up control cable housing (broken just like my '83 was), and rerouted vacuum lines. The switch was still on the valve cover. It did shift normally after a little fiddling with the cable which eased my mind. The interesting situation was the injector/diesel knock. I noticed it as he was turning around to park it. The engine was perfectly quiet immediately upon restarting, but after 5-10 seconds, the knock would gradually fade in. It seemed to be with one cylinder at a constant rhythm at idle and while under load up to 2500RPM or so. It subsides once you take your foot off the loud pedal and coast down to a stop. The engine was a bit oily but not too bad, and the body and interior were presentable though in need of a good cleaning. The front shocks were well warn to the point where the right front clicked and rattled over bumps. I could feel it transmit through the shock as I put my hand on it and bounced the car. All of the tie rod and ball joint boots were intact, and it had good tires and brakes all the way around. The other problem was that there was something stripped in the sunroof drive mechanism. It's clearly a bottom feeder's Benz which I could live with, but I found the deal breaker. ALL OF THE AC COMPONENTS WERE REMOVED, compressor, condenser, etc under the hood! In the 1 kilobuck price bracket, I didn't expect the AC to work, but it would cost too much to buy the components and restore the AC to factory condition. I think there would have been a chance of buying the car if it was all there. It did have european headlights which was kind of cool. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, looking for another kilobuck Mercedes Diesel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net writes: I sold the rusty, trusty, high mileage 240D, so now it’s onto the next Mercedes Diesel. I found a couple for around $1K. The first one is a 1981 300D with the ACCII setup (no servo), and a 1982 300SD, both near 300Kmi. The 300SD is supposedly a good runner with good body and interior as is the 300D. It does have a couple issues. First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it’s warming up, but it’s normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN? Might just need a fluid and filter change. Fluid might be low. You are right that no vacuum should make it shift hard. Check the fluid level and condition, if that looks good either factor in a possible rebuilt from Rusty, or move on to the next one. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
Thanks, Alan. I'm going to be more particular with this next car than the 240D, and I'm giving this next one a better LOOK before I hand over the CASH. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
Do NOT buy a car that's been improved by removing vital parts. On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks, Alan. I'm going to be more particular with this next car than the 240D, and I'm giving this next one a better LOOK before I hand over the CASH. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
Kevin Kraly wrote: First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it’s warming up, but it’s normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN? Isn't a K1 spring a cure for 2-3 flairs? But if it's only when cold, probably not the spring. If the lines to the vacuum switch were just left open, it should shift hard. But if it's plumbed straight though, I think the transmission will shift like you are at an idle - ie, very soft. But again, I would expect that to be the same warm or cold. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
Before writing off a car for lacking the vacuum switch on the valve cover, check with Q to see about the cost/availability of the switch. the vac lines can be rerouted to normal. Not a hard job. I have seen cars with the trans flair go for long time and distance with a flaring trans, IF you let up on the pedal when it starts to shift. But still, if you can't afford/budget for a rebult trans, then you may want to keep looking. I sold the rusty, trusty, high mileage 240D, so now it's onto the next Mercedes Diesel. I found a couple for around $1K. The first one is a 1981 300D with the ACCII setup (no servo), and a 1982 300SD, both near 300Kmi. The 300SD is supposedly a good runner with good body and interior as is the 300D. It does have a couple issues. First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it's warming up, but it's normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN? Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, Kein MB Diesel for now ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: Do NOT buy a car that's been improved by removing vital parts. Unless it's the TRAP OXIDIZER. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question
Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net writes: Thanks, Alan. I'm going to be more particular with this next car than the 240D, and I'm giving this next one a better LOOK before I hand over the CASH. If it's an otherwise very solid car, might be worth the time and cost to put in a rebuilt transmission. That's a pretty big IF though. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
