Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer -- Laser

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

That would be cool.  I’ve got a bunch of ammo cans I could engrave

-D

> On Dec 11, 2018, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A friend of mine laser engraves wood for pistol grips he sells at gun shows. 
> More recently he takes ammo cans, coats them with some magic stuff and then 
> burns it back off with the laser. He gave me a couple with the Maine state 
> seal on them, pretty cool stuff.
> -Curt
> 
>On Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:00:45 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Need a fairly high-powered laser to do that.  My 60W might do it with a 
> special coating that absorbs the laser energy.  Something called Cermark 
> is supposedly the best, but others say molybdenum sulfide dry lubricant 
> works too.  I had some and tried it on some aluminum soda can stock, it 
> sorta worked but I did not fool with it too much.
> 
> The little machines use a diode laser, some are supposedly 5W but 
> probably more like 2.5W.  Those will engrave on wood and leather, maybe 
> cut thin stock in several passes.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 12/10/18 10:36 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>> I could have you make custom stainless steel labels for my truck ...
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer -- Laser

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 A friend of mine laser engraves wood for pistol grips he sells at gun shows. 
More recently he takes ammo cans, coats them with some magic stuff and then 
burns it back off with the laser. He gave me a couple with the Maine state seal 
on them, pretty cool stuff.
-Curt

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:00:45 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Need a fairly high-powered laser to do that.  My 60W might do it with a 
special coating that absorbs the laser energy.  Something called Cermark 
is supposedly the best, but others say molybdenum sulfide dry lubricant 
works too.  I had some and tried it on some aluminum soda can stock, it 
sorta worked but I did not fool with it too much.

The little machines use a diode laser, some are supposedly 5W but 
probably more like 2.5W.  Those will engrave on wood and leather, maybe 
cut thin stock in several passes.

--FT


On 12/10/18 10:36 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> I could have you make custom stainless steel labels for my truck ...
>
>
> Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer -- Laser

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Need a fairly high-powered laser to do that.  My 60W might do it with a 
special coating that absorbs the laser energy.  Something called Cermark 
is supposedly the best, but others say molybdenum sulfide dry lubricant 
works too.  I had some and tried it on some aluminum soda can stock, it 
sorta worked but I did not fool with it too much.


The little machines use a diode laser, some are supposedly 5W but 
probably more like 2.5W.  Those will engrave on wood and leather, maybe 
cut thin stock in several passes.


--FT


On 12/10/18 10:36 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

I could have you make custom stainless steel labels for my truck ...


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

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On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 20:38:33 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> No idea.  The youngest got it and knows exactly nothing about them.  It
> looks like you can spend another $50-$100 and make it really nice with
> a bunch of add-ons.  I like that there is a laser etching add-on that’s
> cheap. That could be fun.

I could have you make custom stainless steel labels for my truck ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah that is like the ones I’ve seen cheap. You can put a laser diode on them. 
Look at Lightburn for the laser software. I think these low-end machines have a 
GRBL arduino controller, very simple stuff, but powerful and gets the job done. 

It will be fun. 

--FT
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> On Dec 10, 2018, at 5:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is the printer:
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/y8mhc9my
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 5:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There are now cheepchinee 3D printers on banggood and dx, $300 or less for 
>> small ones that maybe have a 6in bed, you can put them right on a desk, I am 
>> almost tempted to get one at some point just to play with it and learn how 
>> to do it, then maybe build a good one like I did my CNC router machine.  
>> They sell all the bits too, really cheap.  Probably not something for 
>> high-quality parts printing, but for random hacking and to learn it would be 
>> an easy way to get into it.  Almost everything about them is now 
>> open-source, and free software.
>> 
>> I bought a little 12x12 solid state diode laser engraver a couple years ago, 
>> used it a bit but the software was crap, now there is much better software 
>> that will control these little machines as well as my 60W big machine, I 
>> need to get that going in my copious spare time too.
>> 
>> Let us know how it goes.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/10/18 5:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>> They've come an awfully long way in a relatively short time. I'm thinking 
>>> the first I heard of 3d printing as a reasonable home type thing was maybe 
>>> 10 years ago. Prices are now in the sub $1000 range for a reasonably good 
>>> one...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

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Print me a Glock please, 9mm. 
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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No idea.  The youngest got it and knows exactly nothing about them.  It looks 
like you can spend another $50-$100 and make it really nice with a bunch of 
add-ons.  I like that there is a laser etching add-on that’s cheap. That could 
be fun.

-D

> On Dec 10, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Is it any good? At $199 I'd consider it...
> 
> On Monday, December 10, 2018, 5:44:19 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is the printer:
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/y8mhc9my 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Dec 10, 2018, at 5:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > There are now cheepchinee 3D printers on banggood and dx, $300 or less for 
> > small ones that maybe have a 6in bed, you can put them right on a desk, I 
> > am almost tempted to get one at some point just to play with it and learn 
> > how to do it, then maybe build a good one like I did my CNC router machine. 
> >  They sell all the bits too, really cheap.  Probably not something for 
> > high-quality parts printing, but for random hacking and to learn it would 
> > be an easy way to get into it.  Almost everything about them is now 
> > open-source, and free software.
> > 
> > I bought a little 12x12 solid state diode laser engraver a couple years 
> > ago, used it a bit but the software was crap, now there is much better 
> > software that will control these little machines as well as my 60W big 
> > machine, I need to get that going in my copious spare time too.
> > 
> > Let us know how it goes.
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> > 
> > On 12/10/18 5:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >>  They've come an awfully long way in a relatively short time. I'm thinking 
> >> the first I heard of 3d printing as a reasonable home type thing was maybe 
> >> 10 years ago. Prices are now in the sub $1000 range for a reasonably good 
> >> one...
> >> -Curt
> >> 
> >>
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Is it any good? At $199 I'd consider it...

On Monday, December 10, 2018, 5:44:19 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 This is the printer:

https://tinyurl.com/y8mhc9my

-D


> On Dec 10, 2018, at 5:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There are now cheepchinee 3D printers on banggood and dx, $300 or less for 
> small ones that maybe have a 6in bed, you can put them right on a desk, I am 
> almost tempted to get one at some point just to play with it and learn how to 
> do it, then maybe build a good one like I did my CNC router machine.  They 
> sell all the bits too, really cheap.  Probably not something for high-quality 
> parts printing, but for random hacking and to learn it would be an easy way 
> to get into it.  Almost everything about them is now open-source, and free 
> software.
> 
> I bought a little 12x12 solid state diode laser engraver a couple years ago, 
> used it a bit but the software was crap, now there is much better software 
> that will control these little machines as well as my 60W big machine, I need 
> to get that going in my copious spare time too.
> 
> Let us know how it goes.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 12/10/18 5:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>  They've come an awfully long way in a relatively short time. I'm thinking 
>>the first I heard of 3d printing as a reasonable home type thing was maybe 10 
>>years ago. Prices are now in the sub $1000 range for a reasonably good one...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>    
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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is the printer:

https://tinyurl.com/y8mhc9my

-D


> On Dec 10, 2018, at 5:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There are now cheepchinee 3D printers on banggood and dx, $300 or less for 
> small ones that maybe have a 6in bed, you can put them right on a desk, I am 
> almost tempted to get one at some point just to play with it and learn how to 
> do it, then maybe build a good one like I did my CNC router machine.  They 
> sell all the bits too, really cheap.  Probably not something for high-quality 
> parts printing, but for random hacking and to learn it would be an easy way 
> to get into it.  Almost everything about them is now open-source, and free 
> software.
> 
> I bought a little 12x12 solid state diode laser engraver a couple years ago, 
> used it a bit but the software was crap, now there is much better software 
> that will control these little machines as well as my 60W big machine, I need 
> to get that going in my copious spare time too.
> 
> Let us know how it goes.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 12/10/18 5:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>  They've come an awfully long way in a relatively short time. I'm thinking 
>> the first I heard of 3d printing as a reasonable home type thing was maybe 
>> 10 years ago. Prices are now in the sub $1000 range for a reasonably good 
>> one...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Poos now has a bidness oppty!  And gears for the speedos! (I think I ran 
across some files for these at some point a coupla years ago)


-FFT


On 12/10/18 5:23 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
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Cc: Greg Fiorentino
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 16:18:21 -0800
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https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1480687

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

Visor clips sound like a perfect use for a 3D printer.



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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There are now cheepchinee 3D printers on banggood and dx, $300 or less 
for small ones that maybe have a 6in bed, you can put them right on a 
desk, I am almost tempted to get one at some point just to play with it 
and learn how to do it, then maybe build a good one like I did my CNC 
router machine.  They sell all the bits too, really cheap.  Probably not 
something for high-quality parts printing, but for random hacking and to 
learn it would be an easy way to get into it.  Almost everything about 
them is now open-source, and free software.


I bought a little 12x12 solid state diode laser engraver a couple years 
ago, used it a bit but the software was crap, now there is much better 
software that will control these little machines as well as my 60W big 
machine, I need to get that going in my copious spare time too.


Let us know how it goes.

--FT


On 12/10/18 5:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  They've come an awfully long way in a relatively short time. I'm thinking the 
first I heard of 3d printing as a reasonable home type thing was maybe 10 years 
ago. Prices are now in the sub $1000 range for a reasonably good one...
-Curt

 



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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

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On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:44:34 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I now have access to a Creality Ender-3 3D printer.  I know nothing
> about this thing but plan on learning.  Looks like it prints using a
> filament.
> 
> There were discussions recently in one of these groups about 3D
> printing and an online repository of files for Mercedes parts.  Can
> someone forward that information to me?
> 
> Also, if anyone here is doing any 3D printing, I would love to know
> where the best resources are online.  I’ll be doing some googling, of
> course, but t would be nice to have some direction from someone who has
> gone before me…




From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
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https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1480687

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

Visor clips sound like a perfect use for a 3D printer.
















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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, Greg!  Especially for the personal insight.  I’ve noticed that there 
are many low cost upgrades on the Island of Large Wimmen that appear to enhance 
the functionality of these machines, too.

I’m going to have to dust off one of my Windows laptops and put it to use as it 
appears that Macs are not supported.

-D

> On Dec 10, 2018, at 5:05 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan:
> 
> https://www.thingiverse.com/
> 
> Is the place to find ready-to-print files.
> 
> Autodesk has a free software called 123d design that you can use to design 
> your own items.
> 
> Most use PLA filament to start with, it prints easily but has a low melting 
> point (not suitable for automotive) and is not very strong. ABS is stronger 
> and suitable for higher temperatures, but is fussier to print and emits 
> unpleasant fumes.
> 
> I have settled on PETG for my default material. It prints pretty well, is 
> stronger than PLA, and survives temperatures in the passenger compartment of 
> a car.
> 
> I get my supplies from the River of Big Wimmen.
> 
> My printer is a Qidi, it's an open source design with a heated bed and dual 
> nozzles. I have added a glass bed and use hairspray to ensure good bend 
> adhesion.
> 
> The software that creates the machine instructions from the STL files is 
> called a "slicer" there are several free slicers available, but I have opted 
> for the Simplify 3D commercial slicer.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Greg
> 
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> Subject: [MBZ] 3D Printer
> 
> I now have access to a Creality Ender-3 3D printer.  I know nothing about 
> this thing but plan on learning.  Looks like it prints using a filament.
> 
> There were discussions recently in one of these groups about 3D printing and 
> an online repository of files for Mercedes parts.  Can someone forward that 
> information to me?
> 
> Also, if anyone here is doing any 3D printing, I would love to know where the 
> best resources are online.  I’ll be doing some googling, of course, but t 
> would be nice to have some direction from someone who has gone before me…
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 They've come an awfully long way in a relatively short time. I'm thinking the 
first I heard of 3d printing as a reasonable home type thing was maybe 10 years 
ago. Prices are now in the sub $1000 range for a reasonably good one...
-Curt

On Monday, December 10, 2018, 5:02:36 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Good luck! From what I understand it is complicated and there is a real 
learning curve. I participate in a metal working forum that was 
initially about lathes and milling machine work etc but seems to have 
evolved into a forum about these printers. I don't have one and have no 
intention of acquiring one any time soon but I continue to read most of it.

RB

On 10/12/2018 3:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>  Super cool. I've pondered this a few times.Thingverse is where you go for 
>pre-made plans to print stuff. I've been eyeing some miniature Atari stuff, 
>theres a 1050 disk drive that can hold an SD card reader that looks really 
>cool.
> Theres so much 3d printing stuff out there, I like Bob at I like to Make 
> Stuff, he's got several "Bits" videos that give basic info on all sorts of 
> stuff, including 3d printing: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bccT1Ll15I=PLice_sU_6RfiaNCNTd-ngE4IuH_vAydpa
>
> -Curt
>
>      On Monday, December 10, 2018, 4:45:22 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>  
>  I now have access to a Creality Ender-3 3D printer.  I know nothing about 
>this thing but plan on learning.  Looks like it prints using a filament.
>
> There were discussions recently in one of these groups about 3D printing and 
> an online repository of files for Mercedes parts.  Can someone forward that 
> information to me?
>
> Also, if anyone here is doing any 3D printing, I would love to know where the 
> best resources are online.  I’ll be doing some googling, of course, but t 
> would be nice to have some direction from someone who has gone before me…
>
> Thanks!
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Dan:

https://www.thingiverse.com/

Is the place to find ready-to-print files.

Autodesk has a free software called 123d design that you can use to design your 
own items.

Most use PLA filament to start with, it prints easily but has a low melting 
point (not suitable for automotive) and is not very strong. ABS is stronger and 
suitable for higher temperatures, but is fussier to print and emits unpleasant 
fumes.

I have settled on PETG for my default material. It prints pretty well, is 
stronger than PLA, and survives temperatures in the passenger compartment of a 
car.

I get my supplies from the River of Big Wimmen.

My printer is a Qidi, it's an open source design with a heated bed and dual 
nozzles. I have added a glass bed and use hairspray to ensure good bend 
adhesion.

The software that creates the machine instructions from the STL files is called 
a "slicer" there are several free slicers available, but I have opted for the 
Simplify 3D commercial slicer.

HTH

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] 3D Printer

I now have access to a Creality Ender-3 3D printer.  I know nothing about this 
thing but plan on learning.  Looks like it prints using a filament.

There were discussions recently in one of these groups about 3D printing and an 
online repository of files for Mercedes parts.  Can someone forward that 
information to me?

Also, if anyone here is doing any 3D printing, I would love to know where the 
best resources are online.  I’ll be doing some googling, of course, but t would 
be nice to have some direction from someone who has gone before me…

Thanks!

-D
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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Good luck! From what I understand it is complicated and there is a real 
learning curve. I participate in a metal working forum that was 
initially about lathes and milling machine work etc but seems to have 
evolved into a forum about these printers. I don't have one and have no 
intention of acquiring one any time soon but I continue to read most of it.


RB

On 10/12/2018 3:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  Super cool. I've pondered this a few times.Thingverse is where you go for 
pre-made plans to print stuff. I've been eyeing some miniature Atari stuff, 
theres a 1050 disk drive that can hold an SD card reader that looks really cool.
Theres so much 3d printing stuff out there, I like Bob at I like to Make Stuff, he's got 
several "Bits" videos that give basic info on all sorts of stuff, including 3d 
printing: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bccT1Ll15I=PLice_sU_6RfiaNCNTd-ngE4IuH_vAydpa

-Curt

 On Monday, December 10, 2018, 4:45:22 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  I now have access to a Creality Ender-3 3D printer.  I know nothing about this thing but plan on learning.  Looks like it prints using a filament.


There were discussions recently in one of these groups about 3D printing and an 
online repository of files for Mercedes parts.  Can someone forward that 
information to me?

Also, if anyone here is doing any 3D printing, I would love to know where the 
best resources are online.  I’ll be doing some googling, of course, but t would 
be nice to have some direction from someone who has gone before me…

Thanks!

-D
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Re: [MBZ] 3D Printer

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Super cool. I've pondered this a few times.Thingverse is where you go for 
pre-made plans to print stuff. I've been eyeing some miniature Atari stuff, 
theres a 1050 disk drive that can hold an SD card reader that looks really cool.
Theres so much 3d printing stuff out there, I like Bob at I like to Make Stuff, 
he's got several "Bits" videos that give basic info on all sorts of stuff, 
including 3d printing: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bccT1Ll15I=PLice_sU_6RfiaNCNTd-ngE4IuH_vAydpa

-Curt

On Monday, December 10, 2018, 4:45:22 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I now have access to a Creality Ender-3 3D printer.  I know nothing about this 
thing but plan on learning.  Looks like it prints using a filament.

There were discussions recently in one of these groups about 3D printing and an 
online repository of files for Mercedes parts.  Can someone forward that 
information to me?

Also, if anyone here is doing any 3D printing, I would love to know where the 
best resources are online.  I’ll be doing some googling, of course, but t would 
be nice to have some direction from someone who has gone before me…

Thanks!

-D
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