Re: [MBZ] '95 E320 transmission fluid

2015-02-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:10:01 -0500 LarryT via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Give me your chassis/VIN # and I'll give you the type of trans without
 a doubt - unless it's been swapped out ;-)

Chassis: WDBEA32E7SC217008
 Engine: M104.992-12-080780

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '95 E320 transmission fluid

2015-02-25 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
You'd get a lot of use from a MB Technical Manual - it lists all the 
models, engines, trannys, torques,  and much more - it's only about 
5x8 but it's almost 1 thick and has everything you'd ever want to know -


The official title is/Technical Data Passenger Cars/ - I think I 
ordered it direct from MBNA - you'll be amazed at the amount of info in 
it


Give me your chassis/VIN # and I'll give you the type of trans without a 
doubt - unless it's been swapped out ;-)


LarryT
91 300D
78 240D


On 2/24/2015 11:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

It's either 722.3 or .4, I'm pretty sure it's .3

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 24, 2015, at 9:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

I have been looking through the information about transmissions I have
gleaned from the list over the years and have found a spec sheet listing
(BB00.40-P-0231-01A) which lists what spec sheet (e.g., 236.14) is needed
for which model of transmission (e.g., 722.6).

I cannot, however, find out what model of transmission my car has.

Does anyone know where I can find that information?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '95 E320 transmission fluid

2015-02-25 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The EPC used to give you all that data, plus a lot more based on the VIN.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:10 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 You'd get a lot of use from a MB Technical Manual - it lists all the
 models, engines, trannys, torques,  and much more - it's only about 5x8
 but it's almost 1 thick and has everything you'd ever want to know -

 The official title is/Technical Data Passenger Cars/ - I think I ordered
 it direct from MBNA - you'll be amazed at the amount of info in it

 Give me your chassis/VIN # and I'll give you the type of trans without a
 doubt - unless it's been swapped out ;-)

 LarryT
 91 300D
 78 240D





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Re: [MBZ] '95 E320 transmission fluid

2015-02-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's either 722.3 or .4, I'm pretty sure it's .3

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 On Feb 24, 2015, at 9:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I have been looking through the information about transmissions I have
 gleaned from the list over the years and have found a spec sheet listing
 (BB00.40-P-0231-01A) which lists what spec sheet (e.g., 236.14) is needed
 for which model of transmission (e.g., 722.6).
 
 I cannot, however, find out what model of transmission my car has.
 
 Does anyone know where I can find that information?
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] '95 E320 Leaking Coolant neve6a8a

2012-06-17 Thread Dieselhead

Hendrik,

The simplest thing is to just ignore or block posts from relly.  They 
are almost always irrelevant.  Or, as he sez, not relater.


...Unless you want welcome him to the isuzu owners club..


So I am supposed to trawl back through a 100 or so posts to find the 
one you originally referred to, even though you may well have 
changed the original title to something completely different, then 
write the original posters name on what you quoted, just so people 
don't get confused? Why don't you just leave the original posters 
name on what you quoting? Like everyone else around here. You 
actually seem to take the time to cut the name out, for whatever 
reason.


Hendrik
who might not get it but does not particularly care

On 17/06/12 14:25, relng...@aol.com wrote the second part, from 
memory I think I wrote first bit:

...This is a good example of why it is pretty hard to reply to your
rantings, err I mean insightful inputs, you often change the original
thread title and never quote who you are answering, below are three
different bits, or parts thereof, who wrote what?..


You know damned well that I own an Isuzu. I change the title to
relater to my post, not one from an unrelated post a week ago.I 
didn't think your

memory was so short.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] '95 E320 Leaking Coolant

2012-06-17 Thread Craig
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:26:08 -0600 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

In looking at the 124 manual, I have found some answers.

 1. How does one loosen the serpentine belt? The E420 has a spring-loaded
idler that provides the tension, but I saw nothing like that. The
belt needs to be replaced.

It does have a spring-loaded tensioner; it's just not as visible as the
one on the E420.


 2. Where are the spark plugs and distributor? (Dumb question, I know,
 but I saw no trace of them.)

Thanks to all who answered this.


 3. It appears that to get the radiator out I need to take off the fan
 and the radiator shroud and maybe other things. Is that correct?

According to what I have read, replacing the water pump does not require
removing the radiator nor the cooling fan and thermostatic clutch. I'm
still not sure I understand the full story or agree with that.


 4. Anyone been there, done that?

This question still remains.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '95 E320 Leaking Coolant

2012-06-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The car does not have a distributor, it has coil packs. All in under the center 
plaque valve cover

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On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 Well, I got the car up on the ramps (which was more difficult because I
 didn't want to start up the engine) and took off the belly pan (which is
 a plastic-type material).
 
 I had Shirley start the engine and once it warmed up and started leaking,
 found roughly where the leak is coming from. It's on the driver's side of
 the block toward the front and toward the top. I think it's coming from
 the water pump. The thing has a belt driven pulley and a lot of hoses
 going to it and has the thermostat on top. Being used to water pumps
 behind the fan pulley, it seems a little odd, but apparently they put it
 on the side of the block to shorten the engine.
 
 I looked around while I was under the car and then on top and have some
 questions:
 
 1. How does one loosen the serpentine belt? The E420 has a spring-loaded
   idler that provides the tension, but I saw nothing like that. The belt
   needs to be replaced.
 
 2. Where are the spark plugs and distributor? (Dumb question, I know, but
   I saw no trace of them.)
 
 3. It appears that to get the radiator out I need to take off the fan and
   the radiator shroud and maybe other things. Is that correct?
 
 4. Anyone been there, done that?
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Craig
 
 --
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'94 E420Oskar  123 kmi
'82 240D/3.0Bluebell   267 kmi
 Past:   '86 190E/2.3
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Re: [MBZ] '95 E320 Leaking Coolant

2012-06-15 Thread Craig
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:46:07 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 The car does not have a distributor, it has coil packs. All in under
 the center plaque valve cover

Coil packs. Never thought of them. That must be where the spark plugs are,
too.

Any ideas on the other questions?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '95 E320 Leaking Coolant

2012-06-15 Thread Dan Penoff
Coil pack, or what some domestic manufacturers call COP or coil on plug are 
nothing more than individual ignition coils that are typically mounted directly 
on top of the spark plug.

To get to a spark plug you merely disconnect the wiring harness connector to 
the coil pack and twist/pull to remove the coil pack from the spark plug.

Dan


On Jun 15, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Craig wrote:

 On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:46:07 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
 ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 
 The car does not have a distributor, it has coil packs. All in under
 the center plaque valve cover
 
 Coil packs. Never thought of them. That must be where the spark plugs are,
 too.
 
 Any ideas on the other questions?
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] '95 E320 Leaking Coolant

2012-06-15 Thread Craig
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:32:17 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Coil pack, or what some domestic manufacturers call COP or coil on
 plug are nothing more than individual ignition coils that are
 typically mounted directly on top of the spark plug.
 
 To get to a spark plug you merely disconnect the wiring harness
 connector to the coil pack and twist/pull to remove the coil pack from
 the spark plug.

Thanks for the tip, Dan.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-23 Thread Donald Snook
Rich wrote: Come on just go buy the thing!  You know you want it!

If I can get him down to $5500, I will buy it today!

This thing is in even better shape in person.  The only thing I can find wrong 
with it, is that the powered headrests on the front seats don't work.  They are 
up a little high, anyone know how to get them down if the headrest motors isn't 
working.

I had forgotten how nice the 124 is.  With the 104 engine, this thing really 
has quite a bit of power!



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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-23 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: the ac compressor should still kick on. If its got a evap 
problem, it
wont kick on at all.  Put it in defrost if you have to.

That's a GREAT idea. I didn't think about turning on the defrost!


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-23 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: its a little high but might not be a bad deal at 4-5k

I won't be able to get it for $5K, but maybe $5500.  We were stuck on $6900. 
Now, he wants to trade for my Cadillac, but he wants my car plus $3500.  I 
offered him my car and $2500. I think we can make the deal at $6,000 for his 
car straight up or my car plus, $3000.  I've only $2K in my car, so I should 
probably make the deal before he sells it to someone else!

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 06:54:24 -0600 Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 I had forgotten how nice the 124 is.  With the 104 engine, this thing
 really has quite a bit of power!

You should try a 124 with a 129 engine!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
 Kaleb wrote: the ac compressor should still kick on. If its got a evap 
 problem, it
 wont kick on at all.  Put it in defrost if you have to.

 That's a GREAT idea. I didn't think about turning on the defrost!


I didn't think of that either. D'oh.  Have somebody switch back and
forth between economy (EC button) and full defrost (leftmost button
of the five on the ACC panel)  while you watch the compressor clutch.
Not foolproof, though.  Somebody could have hotwired the Klima relay
because the Freon was low and the compressor wasn't coming on.  Or the
evaporator could still have a slow leak and they just keep topping it
off (or the dealer did!).

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
 This thing is in even better shape in person.  The only thing I can find 
 wrong with it,
 is that the powered headrests on the front seats don't work.  They are up a 
 little high,
 anyone know how to get them down if the headrest motors isn't working.


If it is like a 124, the headrest support rods extend down into the
backrest quite a ways, and a plastic rack attached to them engages
with a gear (or vice versa, it's been a while) to move them up and
down.  The cheapo fix is to take the back off the seat (the whole
panel slides upward and off) and attach the plastic part that has
separated from the rods back where it should be with cable ties.  It's
obvious how it works once you get the back of the seat off.

Or the switch could just need a good cleaning.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
 If it is like a 124, the headrest support rods extend down into the
 backrest quite a ways, and a plastic rack attached to them engages
 with a gear (or vice versa, it's been a while) to move them up and
 down.  The cheapo fix is to take the back off the seat (the whole
 panel slides upward and off) and attach the plastic part that has
 separated from the rods back where it should be with cable ties.  It's
 obvious how it works once you get the back of the seat off.

I should add, DO NOT force the headrests down or you will break the
mechanism further, beyond the point where the cable-tie fix works, and
the little plastic bits probably cost a pretty penny from M-B.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-23 Thread John Reames
The 210 style motors are prone to a fractured solder joint between the  
motor and the PC board that they connect to.  It is possible to  
judiciously tease the thing apart and resolder the connection.  Things  
will work done after.  The headrests are removed by extending them  
upward fully then pulling them out by hand. (harder than you think you  
should have to. Do not attempt to remove the headrests if they are not  
at full mast.)


Re: the repair, BTDT, still working 60kmi/4yrs on)

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On Feb 23, 2010, at 13:09, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com  
wrote:


On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com  
wrote:
This thing is in even better shape in person.  The only thing I can  
find wrong with it,
is that the powered headrests on the front seats don't work.  They  
are up a little high,
anyone know how to get them down if the headrest motors isn't  
working.




If it is like a 124, the headrest support rods extend down into the
backrest quite a ways, and a plastic rack attached to them engages
with a gear (or vice versa, it's been a while) to move them up and
down.  The cheapo fix is to take the back off the seat (the whole
panel slides upward and off) and attach the plastic part that has
separated from the rods back where it should be with cable ties.  It's
obvious how it works once you get the back of the seat off.

Or the switch could just need a good cleaning.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-22 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Wow-but then rarity has its price.

Dwight 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
 A 94 300CE cab-same 124 body-sold at the Owls Head ME auction this summer
 for 11k.


I just remembered to check up on that W116 wagon from last month. $23,000,
wow.
http://search.ebay.com/270521820113

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-22 Thread Donald Snook
Alex wrote: I forgot to say that if it's green or blue, with tan or brown 
leather and a tan top, I want to buy it if you don't!

It's black with the black interior. But, I will keep my eye out for the blue or 
green ones.  There is a white one here in town that is white with a tan 
interior.

There is also a BEAUTIFUL 95 E320 Sedan that is blue with the really cool dark 
tan (?) interior.  It is much darker than the tan/cream that you see in a lot 
of 124s.  But, it is lighter than the brown interior.  I don't know what they 
call it, but I like it. This Sedan E320 only has 82,000 miles. I really want it!

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 There is also a BEAUTIFUL 95 E320 Sedan that is blue with the really cool
 dark tan (?) interior.  It is much darker than the tan/cream that you see in a
 lot of 124s.  But, it is lighter than the brown interior.  I don't know what 
 they
 call it, but I like it.

I know exactly what you mean---I don't know the official M-B name for
it, but other manufacturers call it saddle:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/1602369367.html
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/ctd/1610448992.html

I love it too!  If I had my way, the majority of cars I own would be
British Racing Green with saddle leather.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-22 Thread Donald Snook
Alex wrote: I really think that's low, unless every person trying to sell one 
on CL is totally deluded.  (Not impossible!)  Google e320 cabriolet 
site:craigslist.org---the great majority of ads seem to be asking around 
$15,000.

I agree.  They are getting premium prices for these cars, because there just 
aren't many of them around and a lot of people who bought them realize they are 
special.

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-22 Thread Donald Snook
I just called the MB dealership and they had records on this car.  In fact, 
less than 2500 miles ago (January of last year), they did the Head 
Gasket/timing cover reseal for an external oil leak.  They checked the wiring 
harness and said it was pliable and had likely already been replaced.

Donald H. Snook


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From: Donald Snook
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:29 PM
To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'
Subject: 95 E320 Update

All of this thinking about my Neighbors E320 Convertible got me thinking about 
other 95 E320's.  I found one here in Wichita.   The price is TOO HIGH, but it 
sure is in Very nice. Shape.


http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1611398821.html

I might have to go look at this one.  Its only got 80,000 miles.

How can you tell if the a/c works or the evap has any problems when the outside 
temperature is in the 30's.

What's a good price on these in this condition, miles, etc.

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-22 Thread Rich Thomas

Come on just go buy the thing!  You know you want it!

--R

On 2/22/2010 3:57 PM, Donald Snook wrote:

I just called the MB dealership and they had records on this car.  In fact, 
less than 2500 miles ago (January of last year), they did the Head 
Gasket/timing cover reseal for an external oil leak.  They checked the wiring 
harness and said it was pliable and had likely already been replaced.

Donald H. Snook


-Original Message-
From: Donald Snook
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:29 PM
To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'
Subject: 95 E320 Update

All of this thinking about my Neighbors E320 Convertible got me thinking about 
other 95 E320's.  I found one here in Wichita.   The price is TOO HIGH, but it 
sure is in Very nice. Shape.


http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1611398821.html

I might have to go look at this one.  Its only got 80,000 miles.

How can you tell if the a/c works or the evap has any problems when the outside 
temperature is in the 30's.

What's a good price on these in this condition, miles, etc.

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
 All of this thinking about my Neighbors E320 Convertible got me thinking 
 about other 95
 E320's.  I found one here in Wichita.   The price is TOO HIGH, but it sure is 
 in\
 Very nice. Shape.

 http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1611398821.html

Great colors inside and out on that one!  I have a hard time trusting
a dealer who says the car is FWD, though.  (I know, it could just be a
typo.  Or they could not know anything about M-Bs.)

 How can you tell if the a/c works or the evap has any problems when the 
 outside
 temperature is in the 30's.

I don't think there's any way without pressure gauges and a freon
sniffer.   I wonder what would happen if you blew on the exterior temp
sender with a heat gun, though?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-22 Thread Mitch Haley

Donald Snook wrote:


How can you tell if the a/c works or the evap has any problems when the outside 
temperature is in the 30's.


I suppose you could check the base pressure on your car before starting it when 
it's cold, and compare that to the pressure on the E320. At least then you'd 
know that there's SOME liquid in the system if the pressure matches.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the ac compressor should still kick on. If its got a evap problem, it 
wont kick on at all.  Put it in defrost if you have to.


Donald Snook wrote:

All of this thinking about my Neighbors E320 Convertible got me thinking about 
other 95 E320's.  I found one here in Wichita.   The price is TOO HIGH, but it 
sure is in Very nice. Shape.


http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1611398821.html

I might have to go look at this one.  Its only got 80,000 miles.

How can you tell if the a/c works or the evap has any problems when the outside 
temperature is in the 30's.

What's a good price on these in this condition, miles, etc.

Donald H. Snook

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95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 
91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 
85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Update

2010-02-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

its a little high but might not be a bad deal at 4-5k

Donald Snook wrote:

I just called the MB dealership and they had records on this car.  In fact, 
less than 2500 miles ago (January of last year), they did the Head 
Gasket/timing cover reseal for an external oil leak.  They checked the wiring 
harness and said it was pliable and had likely already been replaced.

Donald H. Snook


-Original Message-
From: Donald Snook
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:29 PM
To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'
Subject: 95 E320 Update

All of this thinking about my Neighbors E320 Convertible got me thinking about 
other 95 E320's.  I found one here in Wichita.   The price is TOO HIGH, but it 
sure is in Very nice. Shape.


http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1611398821.html

I might have to go look at this one.  Its only got 80,000 miles.

How can you tell if the a/c works or the evap has any problems when the outside 
temperature is in the 30's.

What's a good price on these in this condition, miles, etc.

Donald H. Snook

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95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 
91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 
85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, it has the 104, yes, they still have head gasket leaks, yes it has 
wiring harness problems, yes it can have evap problems


Donald Snook wrote:

My Neighbor has a crappy old truck that seems to break down all the time, but 
he loves it.  He is pretty young and plays in a band and he can afford to do 
that because his Father is a local cardiologist who bought him the house and 
loans him his extra car whenever the truck breaks down.

Here's the point of the story.  His dad has a 1995 E320 Convertible.  It is in 
very nice shape.  I am not positive about the miles.  He is the original owner 
and this is just a third car they keep around.  I have been bugging him to sell 
it to me because I think the 95 E320 is the best looking of all modern Mercedes 
convertibles.  But, I don't know that much about them.

This has the more powerful and better 6 cylinder engine, correct?  Is it the 
M104? Does it still have head gasket and valve seal problems like the 103?  I 
know 95 is a prime year for the wiring harness problem, but was it used on the 
convertible?

What other issues do these cars have?

Evap?

Anything I can look at in particular?

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread E M
Sounds like the kinda guy who might fix things as they come up.  It's old
enough, I would imagine a number of things have already been addressed on
it.  I think they're great looking cars too.  Years ago when I was in the
club, and guy sold a mint mint mint SL280 to buy a new E320 convertible at
the time.  I think a few here had some sportline option or something.  I
remember one guy had a coupe, which I think had a 23 valve head or
something, different suspension and seats, etc.  I think the standard M104
is a 16 valve engine ?

Anyway, if you really want it, keep bugging him, or reminding him you would
like first chance to buy it should he ever decide to sell.  I've got a few
cars that way.  For me, it's preferable to see something you really like,
and offer to buy it, than trying to sort through all the for sale junk out
there with the hope you'll find one you like.

Good luck.

Ed
300E

On 21 February 2010 14:43, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 My Neighbor has a crappy old truck that seems to break down all the time,
 but he loves it.  He is pretty young and plays in a band and he can afford
 to do that because his Father is a local cardiologist who bought him the
 house and loans him his extra car whenever the truck breaks down.

 Here's the point of the story.  His dad has a 1995 E320 Convertible.  It is
 in very nice shape.  I am not positive about the miles.  He is the original
 owner and this is just a third car they keep around.  I have been bugging
 him to sell it to me because I think the 95 E320 is the best looking of all
 modern Mercedes convertibles.  But, I don't know that much about them.

 This has the more powerful and better 6 cylinder engine, correct?  Is it
 the M104? Does it still have head gasket and valve seal problems like the
 103?  I know 95 is a prime year for the wiring harness problem, but was it
 used on the convertible?

 What other issues do these cars have?

 Evap?

 Anything I can look at in particular?

 Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
  His dad has a 1995 E320 Convertible.  It is in very nice shape.  I am not 
 positive about
 the miles.  He is the original owner and this is just a third car they keep 
 around.

I smell another arbitrage opportunity for you, Donald.  Sounds like
they're unlikely to know what the car is worth nor how collectible it
is.  The 124 convertible is the modern equivalent of the W111
cabriolet ('68-'71? 280SE).  If prices I see on CL and eBay are any
indication, the car should sell for anywhere from twice to ten times
the price of a plain ol' 6-cylinder 124 sedan of the same year--i.e.
$10,000 on up.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
  If prices I see on CL and eBay are any
 indication, the car should sell for anywhere from twice to ten times
 the price of a plain ol' 6-cylinder 124 sedan of the same year--i.e.
 $10,000 on up.

I forgot to say that if it's green or blue, with tan or brown leather
and a tan top, I want to buy it if you don't!

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Donald Snook
Alex wrote: I smell another arbitrage opportunity for you, Donald.  Sounds 
like they're unlikely to know what the car is worth nor how collectible it is.  
The 124 convertible is the modern equivalent of the W111 cabriolet ('68-'71? 
280SE).  If prices I see on CL and eBay are any indication, the car should sell 
for anywhere from twice to ten times the price of a plain ol' 6-cylinder 124 
sedan of the same year--i.e. $10,000 on up.

Boy, I hope they don't think it is worth that much!  I was hoping to pay no 
more than $7500 and only that much if it has low miles.  You are right, these 
cars are getting very pricey and they are hard to find.  There is one for sale 
here in town for $20K and its got 90K miles.  Well, I will keep bugging him 
about the car.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Donald Snook wrote:


Boy, I hope they don't think it is worth that much!


I just checked Edmunds.com.
I asked for a quote on one with 125k, clean condition.
Came up with 4,000 trade, $7000 retail, $5000 private party, including a $400 
premium for low mileage on a 15 year old car.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 I just checked Edmunds.com.
 I asked for a quote on one with 125k, clean condition.
 Came up with 4,000 trade, $7000 retail, $5000 private party, including a
 $400 premium for low mileage on a 15 year old car.


I really think that's low, unless every person trying to sell one on
CL is totally deluded.  (Not impossible!)  Google e320 cabriolet
site:craigslist.org---the great majority of ads seem to be asking
around $15,000.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Allan Streib
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes:

 I really think that's low, unless every person trying to sell one on
 CL is totally deluded.  (Not impossible!)  Google e320 cabriolet
 site:craigslist.org---the great majority of ads seem to be asking
 around $15,000.

Asking price and selling price are often quite different... Edmunds and
the like base their prices on actual title transfers.  On the other
hand, it's not unusual for the price to be understated on those
documents, to avoid some of the sales tax.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
A 94 300CE cab-same 124 body-sold at the Owls Head ME auction this summer
for 11k.
The stealers here list them over twenty sometimes-not unusual to see the
95's for 15k or so around here-what 2 or 3 have been on market in last
couple years.
Lust in my heart even though it is not diesel.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI
-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:35 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
  His dad has a 1995 E320 Convertible.  It is in very nice shape.  I am not
positive about
 the miles.  He is the original owner and this is just a third car they
keep around.

I smell another arbitrage opportunity for you, Donald.  Sounds like
they're unlikely to know what the car is worth nor how collectible it
is.  The 124 convertible is the modern equivalent of the W111
cabriolet ('68-'71? 280SE).  If prices I see on CL and eBay are any
indication, the car should sell for anywhere from twice to ten times
the price of a plain ol' 6-cylinder 124 sedan of the same year--i.e.
$10,000 on up.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

A 94 300CE cab-same 124 body-sold at the Owls Head ME auction this summer
for 11k.



I just remembered to check up on that W116 wagon from last month. $23,000, wow.
http://search.ebay.com/270521820113

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 Asking price and selling price are often quite different...

Of course.

Edmunds and
 the like base their prices on actual title transfers.

So they claim.  I still think the numbers Mitch gave are off by a
factor of two at least.  There have been many other examples of the
blue books getting it wrong on special-interest cars.

If I'm wrong, then I want in on some of that $5,000 E320 Cab action.
I'll buy three or four, stuff them in a warehouse, then be sitting
pretty in about 20 years when they are worth $50,000 apiece.  ;)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Dieselhead
yes,  most are based on reported sales by stealers.  I don't know if 
they intentionally misreport or if it is just stupididity, but many 
MB prices are off.


In the 70s the NADA book continually showed you could buy a 3-5 year 
old 220 or 240D for under $2000.  I kept thelling the insurance 
adjusters to go out and buy all those cars they could find and I 
would sell them for $4000.  Nobody ever produced a $2000 220D.




On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Asking price and selling price are often quite different...


Of course.


Edmunds and
 the like base their prices on actual title transfers.


So they claim.  I still think the numbers Mitch gave are off by a
factor of two at least.  There have been many other examples of the
blue books getting it wrong on special-interest cars.

If I'm wrong, then I want in on some of that $5,000 E320 Cab action.
I'll buy three or four, stuff them in a warehouse, then be sitting
pretty in about 20 years when they are worth $50,000 apiece.  ;)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Dieselhead wrote:
yes,  most are based on reported sales by stealers.  I don't know if 
they intentionally misreport or if it is just stupididity, but many MB 
prices are off.


I wonder if convertible sales are too low to get a good sampling, so they just 
add a little to the coupe prices (which might be based on sedan prices).


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320

2007-06-08 Thread Donald Snook
Larry wrote: 

 

I thought that car was sold a couple of times?  Did *another* deal fall 

through?

How much are you looking far anyway?

 

I thought I had someone here in Wichita that was going to buy it.  Also,
Bill R. is interested in it, but is waiting for legal issues to be
resolved.   It is still for sale.  I have it listed on Autotrader for
$5100. I offered it to the list members for $4900.   

 

I was gone on vacation last week and this week I have been in
depositions out the state. I mention this because I haven't really done
anything to sell it since I listed it on ebay. 

 

So, its still for sale.  A couple of other list members have emailed me
and expressed some interest, but I still have the car.  So, if you want
to send me $5000 in small unmarked bills I will be glad to sell you the
car.  

 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) 



Re: [MBZ] 95 E320

2007-06-08 Thread LarryT

Don wrotesend me $5000 in small unmarked bills 

So, does that mean you wouldn't accept *large*, marked bills?  ;-)

I'll ponder that price for a while - thanks.

;-)

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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320



Larry wrote:



I thought that car was sold a couple of times?  Did *another* deal fall

through?

How much are you looking far anyway?



I thought I had someone here in Wichita that was going to buy it.  Also,
Bill R. is interested in it, but is waiting for legal issues to be
resolved.   It is still for sale.  I have it listed on Autotrader for
$5100. I offered it to the list members for $4900.



I was gone on vacation last week and this week I have been in
depositions out the state. I mention this because I haven't really done
anything to sell it since I listed it on ebay.



So, its still for sale.  A couple of other list members have emailed me
and expressed some interest, but I still have the car.  So, if you want
to send me $5000 in small unmarked bills I will be glad to sell you the
car.





Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320

2007-06-07 Thread Gary Thompson

Though I'm willing to bet if you got the compressor shaft seal
replaced, you'd still find you were losing a tiny bit of refrigerant
from somewhere else. BTDT.

Of course you northerners may just not have enough temp cycles on the A/C yet...


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 6/6/07, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Also plan on the rear accumulators ( nitrogen filled rear suspension spheres
). A pair will run $200 plus oil. Book time is 5 1/2 hours on a wagon and
you'll need every bit of the 5 1/2 hours. I did them on our 1995 E320 wagon.
Engine harness was replaced. However the compressor was leaking and not the
evaporator.




Re: [MBZ] 95 E320

2007-06-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

head gasket leaks oil, evaporator issues, self distructing wiring harness

eric peterson wrote:

What problems should I look for in a 95 E320??  Car is
said to be well maintained with aprox 120K.  

Thanks in advance 
Eric

85 300CD 112K


   


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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320

2007-06-06 Thread Gary Thompson

Eric,

While I still love mine, there are a few issues you should be aware of
before buying. Not all of these are catastrophic, but may be used to
negotiate price :^)

1) Most of the later W124 chassis cars (I know starting with the M104
engine intorduced in 1993) came with a newly introduced biodegradeable
wiring harness. Unfortunately, the high heat environement of the
engine compartment caused the insulation to degrade prematurely. Many
of these have probably been replaced by the 120K mile point, but it's
always good to ask. If the current owner doesn't know if it's been
replaced, assume it hasn't. It's not a particularly difficult DIY job,
but is very time consuming if you're doing it for the first time.

2) Head gaskets have been known to begin to seep oil out at about the
middle on the passenger side. Take a look here for old, crusty,
seeping oil. If the gasket needs to be replace, might as well do a
valve job while it's off. The M104 bottom end is quite robust, so with
a fresh valve job, you're easily good for another 150K miles.

3) In warm southern climates, where the A/C goes through a lot of
thermal cycles, the evaporators have been known to spring leaks around
the seams. This doesn't sound too bad until you realize Mercedes hung
the evaporator by a string and then built a car around it. I've seen
quotes between 14 and 18 shop hours to replace, though I good tech
who's done a few can get it done in one solid day. Not for the faint
of heart to DIY. Ask the current owner about A/C issues, and be wary
of any car that just needs a charge. It can be very difficult to
diagnose the evap leak since you can't get to it directly. Sometimes a
good leak sniffer (or even your nose if you know what PAG oil smells
like) can get a whiff of refrigerant out of the vents when the blower
is first started up. In other cases, you can detect refrigerant or oil
coming out the evap drain under the car.

Don't want to sound too discouraging as the 1995 E320 is really quite a car.


Gary Thompson
Georgetown, TX
1995 E320  139K miles


On 6/5/07, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What problems should I look for in a 95 E320??  Car is
said to be well maintained with aprox 120K.

Thanks in advance
Eric
85 300CD 112K




Re: [MBZ] 95 E320

2007-06-06 Thread andrew strasfogel

A friend purchased a 1998 E320.  Will he have the same AC problems?



On 6/6/07, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Eric,

While I still love mine, there are a few issues you should be aware of
before buying. Not all of these are catastrophic, but may be used to
negotiate price :^)

1) Most of the later W124 chassis cars (I know starting with the M104
engine intorduced in 1993) came with a newly introduced biodegradeable
wiring harness. Unfortunately, the high heat environement of the
engine compartment caused the insulation to degrade prematurely. Many
of these have probably been replaced by the 120K mile point, but it's
always good to ask. If the current owner doesn't know if it's been
replaced, assume it hasn't. It's not a particularly difficult DIY job,
but is very time consuming if you're doing it for the first time.

2) Head gaskets have been known to begin to seep oil out at about the
middle on the passenger side. Take a look here for old, crusty,
seeping oil. If the gasket needs to be replace, might as well do a
valve job while it's off. The M104 bottom end is quite robust, so with
a fresh valve job, you're easily good for another 150K miles.

3) In warm southern climates, where the A/C goes through a lot of
thermal cycles, the evaporators have been known to spring leaks around
the seams. This doesn't sound too bad until you realize Mercedes hung
the evaporator by a string and then built a car around it. I've seen
quotes between 14 and 18 shop hours to replace, though I good tech
who's done a few can get it done in one solid day. Not for the faint
of heart to DIY. Ask the current owner about A/C issues, and be wary
of any car that just needs a charge. It can be very difficult to
diagnose the evap leak since you can't get to it directly. Sometimes a
good leak sniffer (or even your nose if you know what PAG oil smells
like) can get a whiff of refrigerant out of the vents when the blower
is first started up. In other cases, you can detect refrigerant or oil
coming out the evap drain under the car.

Don't want to sound too discouraging as the 1995 E320 is really quite a
car.


Gary Thompson
Georgetown, TX
1995 E320  139K miles


On 6/5/07, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What problems should I look for in a 95 E320??  Car is
 said to be well maintained with aprox 120K.

 Thanks in advance
 Eric
 85 300CD 112K

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320

2007-06-06 Thread Gary Thompson

I haven't heard of evaporator problems on the W210 and later models,
but have no idea if they use the same aluminum/copper evaporator
disaster as the late W124.


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 6/6/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A friend purchased a 1998 E320.  Will he have the same AC problems?




Re: [MBZ] 95 E320

2007-06-06 Thread Marshall Booth

Gary Thompson wrote:

I haven't heard of evaporator problems on the W210 and later models,
but have no idea if they use the same aluminum/copper evaporator
disaster as the late W124.



The defective evaporators are in ALL 124s - not just late ones, and 
possibly present to a lesser degree in late (1986 on) 126s. The problem 
doesn't appear to be present in 210 chassis cars.


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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320

2007-06-06 Thread LarryT

Donald wroteA nice 1990
300SEL.  :-)   

Hi DOnald,
   I thought that car was sold a couple of times?  Did *another* deal fall 
through?

How much are you looking far anyway?

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Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:27 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 95 E320



What problems should I look for in a 95 E320??  Car is

said to be well maintained with aprox 120K.



I was looking at the same car, Eric, so I will report what I have
learned.   In 95, they had VERY EXPENSIVE a/c problems you have to
replace the evaporator, they also have wiring harness going bad - also
pretty expensive if you can't do it yourself.



In 95 you won't have the corrosion problems of the later models. The 95
has all the bells and whistles and I think it is the best looking 124.



You know what you won't have any of these problems with?  A nice 1990
300SEL.  :-)





Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320

2007-06-06 Thread James Zavesky
Also plan on the rear accumulators ( nitrogen filled rear suspension spheres
). A pair will run $200 plus oil. Book time is 5 1/2 hours on a wagon and
you'll need every bit of the 5 1/2 hours. I did them on our 1995 E320 wagon.
Engine harness was replaced. However the compressor was leaking and not the
evaporator.

James Zavesky




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Gary Thompson
 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:47 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320
 
 Eric,
 
 While I still love mine, there are a few issues you should be aware of
 before buying. Not all of these are catastrophic, but may be used to
 negotiate price :^)
 
 1) Most of the later W124 chassis cars (I know starting with the M104
 engine intorduced in 1993) came with a newly introduced biodegradeable
 wiring harness. Unfortunately, the high heat environement of the
 engine compartment caused the insulation to degrade prematurely. Many
 of these have probably been replaced by the 120K mile point, but it's
 always good to ask. If the current owner doesn't know if it's been
 replaced, assume it hasn't. It's not a particularly difficult DIY job,
 but is very time consuming if you're doing it for the first time.
 
 2) Head gaskets have been known to begin to seep oil out at about the
 middle on the passenger side. Take a look here for old, crusty,
 seeping oil. If the gasket needs to be replace, might as well do a
 valve job while it's off. The M104 bottom end is quite robust, so with
 a fresh valve job, you're easily good for another 150K miles.
 
 3) In warm southern climates, where the A/C goes through a lot of
 thermal cycles, the evaporators have been known to spring leaks around
 the seams. This doesn't sound too bad until you realize Mercedes hung
 the evaporator by a string and then built a car around it. I've seen
 quotes between 14 and 18 shop hours to replace, though I good tech
 who's done a few can get it done in one solid day. Not for the faint
 of heart to DIY. Ask the current owner about A/C issues, and be wary
 of any car that just needs a charge. It can be very difficult to
 diagnose the evap leak since you can't get to it directly. Sometimes a
 good leak sniffer (or even your nose if you know what PAG oil smells
 like) can get a whiff of refrigerant out of the vents when the blower
 is first started up. In other cases, you can detect refrigerant or oil
 coming out the evap drain under the car.
 
 Don't want to sound too discouraging as the 1995 E320 is really quite a
 car.
 
 
 Gary Thompson
 Georgetown, TX
 1995 E320  139K miles
 
 
 On 6/5/07, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What problems should I look for in a 95 E320??  Car is
  said to be well maintained with aprox 120K.
 
  Thanks in advance
  Eric
  85 300CD 112K
 
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

2006-12-26 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sun, 24 Dec 2006, LarryT wrote:

 Hi Dwight - It's more like the later E Class with the dual eggshaped 
 headlights - in a coupe form.  It's really a beautiful car IMHO.,

Hows that different from a 208 (?) CL320
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

2006-12-26 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Thanks Larry for the wishes and poetry-only one problem with your line up-as
you well know it's the 240D bringing up the rear. All I know about 124's I
learned from my 300D the last year-same one you have. I really like it
although I am not sure about ACC-either operator error corrected by RTFM or
may need work. Not tonight's worry.

Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

Hi Dwight,
My mistake - here's the eBay no. 160064882475  - I was under the 
impression it was a newer 320CLK - but you're right - it appears to be a 
W124 Coupe - I think it's the tail end of the W124 line - all the bugs are 
hopefully worked out - although IMHO, there were few bugs to begin with.  In

which case I'm even more inclined to recommend he seriouly consider it  - 
it's in very good condition  has low miles - which is the reason for the 
premium price.

I'm not hearing any problem areas - either there aren';t any or 
everone's eating Christmas turkey  ham or opening and playing with gifts.

And to all a good niight -- on dasher and dancer  comet  
blitzen, on 240D's and 300D's and a Maybach in the leadwith a 300D 
Turbo bringing up the rear --- it's another Magic Night celebrating the 
birth of Christ -
;-)

Dwight wrote:My 90 is NEW for me
I agree with you Dwight - my '91 seems like it was just built!!  15 years 
old is as new as I need!

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy


 That's OK Larry-I have seen them-I get confused in the 94/95 transition
 years-beyond my experience. My 90 is NEW for me. I agree it is a very nice
 coupe.

 Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
 Bissell Cove
 Wickford RI 02852

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

 Hi Dwight - It's more like the later E Class with the dual eggshaped
 headlights - in a coupe form.  It's really a beautiful car IMHO.,
 I'll try to find a photo for you -

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 Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 5:27 PM
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 Larry-is that a 124 like the 300CE?
 Merry Christmas to you.

 Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
 Bissell Cove
 Wickford RI 02852

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 A friend is cosidering a low mileage E320 Coupe - it doesn't leak which 
 is
 evidently a common problem - anyway - any things to bite him?

 Thx -
 Merry Christmas -

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

2006-12-25 Thread LarryT
Hi Dwight - It's more like the later E Class with the dual eggshaped 
headlights - in a coupe form.  It's really a beautiful car IMHO.,

I'll try to find a photo for you -

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy



Larry-is that a 124 like the 300CE?
Merry Christmas to you.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852

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A friend is cosidering a low mileage E320 Coupe - it doesn't leak which is
evidently a common problem - anyway - any things to bite him?

Thx -
Merry Christmas -

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

2006-12-25 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
That's OK Larry-I have seen them-I get confused in the 94/95 transition
years-beyond my experience. My 90 is NEW for me. I agree it is a very nice
coupe.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

Hi Dwight - It's more like the later E Class with the dual eggshaped 
headlights - in a coupe form.  It's really a beautiful car IMHO.,
I'll try to find a photo for you -

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 Larry-is that a 124 like the 300CE?
 Merry Christmas to you.

 Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
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 Wickford RI 02852

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 Merry Christmas -

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

2006-12-25 Thread John Freer

95 is a W124. 96 and up were W210's but there were no coupes.

On 12/24/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That's OK Larry-I have seen them-I get confused in the 94/95 transition
years-beyond my experience. My 90 is NEW for me. I agree it is a very nice
coupe.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852

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Hi Dwight - It's more like the later E Class with the dual eggshaped
headlights - in a coupe form.  It's really a beautiful car IMHO.,
I'll try to find a photo for you -

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 Larry-is that a 124 like the 300CE?
 Merry Christmas to you.

 Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
 Bissell Cove
 Wickford RI 02852

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

2006-12-25 Thread LarryT

Hi Dwight,
   My mistake - here's the eBay no. 160064882475  - I was under the 
impression it was a newer 320CLK - but you're right - it appears to be a 
W124 Coupe - I think it's the tail end of the W124 line - all the bugs are 
hopefully worked out - although IMHO, there were few bugs to begin with.  In 
which case I'm even more inclined to recommend he seriouly consider it  - 
it's in very good condition  has low miles - which is the reason for the 
premium price.


   I'm not hearing any problem areas - either there aren';t any or 
everone's eating Christmas turkey  ham or opening and playing with gifts.


   And to all a good niight -- on dasher and dancer  comet  
blitzen, on 240D's and 300D's and a Maybach in the leadwith a 300D 
Turbo bringing up the rear --- it's another Magic Night celebrating the 
birth of Christ -

;-)

Dwight wrote:My 90 is NEW for me
I agree with you Dwight - my '91 seems like it was just built!!  15 years 
old is as new as I need!


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To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy



That's OK Larry-I have seen them-I get confused in the 94/95 transition
years-beyond my experience. My 90 is NEW for me. I agree it is a very nice
coupe.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

Hi Dwight - It's more like the later E Class with the dual eggshaped
headlights - in a coupe form.  It's really a beautiful car IMHO.,
I'll try to find a photo for you -

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy



Larry-is that a 124 like the 300CE?
Merry Christmas to you.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
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Wickford RI 02852

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Subject: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

A friend is cosidering a low mileage E320 Coupe - it doesn't leak which 
is

evidently a common problem - anyway - any things to bite him?

Thx -
Merry Christmas -

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

2006-12-25 Thread LarryT

Hi John -
Yep, without seeing it I thought it was a 320CLK - but after seeing the 
photos I see how great it looks - eBay 160064882475.

Eyecandy for the Gassers -

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Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy



95 is a W124. 96 and up were W210's but there were no coupes.

On 12/24/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That's OK Larry-I have seen them-I get confused in the 94/95 transition
years-beyond my experience. My 90 is NEW for me. I agree it is a very 
nice

coupe.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852

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On Behalf Of LarryT
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 9:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

Hi Dwight - It's more like the later E Class with the dual eggshaped
headlights - in a coupe form.  It's really a beautiful car IMHO.,
I'll try to find a photo for you -

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Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy


 Larry-is that a 124 like the 300CE?
 Merry Christmas to you.

 Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
 Bissell Cove
 Wickford RI 02852

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 A friend is cosidering a low mileage E320 Coupe - it doesn't leak which
is
 evidently a common problem - anyway - any things to bite him?

 Thx -
 Merry Christmas -

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

2006-12-25 Thread Sunil Hari

that is a really pretty car.  but for that price ... I dunno.

On 12/25/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi John -
Yep, without seeing it I thought it was a 320CLK - but after seeing the
photos I see how great it looks - eBay 160064882475.
Eyecandy for the Gassers -

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From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy


 95 is a W124. 96 and up were W210's but there were no coupes.

 On 12/24/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's OK Larry-I have seen them-I get confused in the 94/95 transition
 years-beyond my experience. My 90 is NEW for me. I agree it is a very
 nice
 coupe.

 Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
 Bissell Cove
 Wickford RI 02852

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 On Behalf Of LarryT
 Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 9:38 PM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

 Hi Dwight - It's more like the later E Class with the dual eggshaped
 headlights - in a coupe form.  It's really a beautiful car IMHO.,
 I'll try to find a photo for you -

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 Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 5:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy


  Larry-is that a 124 like the 300CE?
  Merry Christmas to you.
 
  Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
  Bissell Cove
  Wickford RI 02852
 
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  A friend is cosidering a low mileage E320 Coupe - it doesn't leak
which
 is
  evidently a common problem - anyway - any things to bite him?
 
  Thx -
  Merry Christmas -
 
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

2006-12-24 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Larry-is that a 124 like the 300CE?
Merry Christmas to you. 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852

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A friend is cosidering a low mileage E320 Coupe - it doesn't leak which is 
evidently a common problem - anyway - any things to bite him?

Thx -
Merry Christmas -

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