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next time, I'll put asterisks around *think*. Thanks for the convincing counter argument. Chris, having repeated, apparently, bad info from a friend --- Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher, You are mistaken on both counts. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:58 AM To: Richard Smith; Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABC news item on veg oil in US diesels I think New Zealand (becuase of their falling population) offers lots of incentives (money, etc) for people to move there... Christopher --- Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Euan, was that on TV or was it on the Internet somewhere we could get to it? Watched a special on New Zealand the other night. It looks like paradise down there. I think I might be living in the wrong hemisphere! On 9/20/05, Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great to see W123s figuring so large in the ABC news item on alternatives to diesel, screened here in New Zealand last night. Some chap who converted his own Benz to run on used restaurant oil is now making his living from fitting kits to other diesels. Don't which part of the US he was in. But all the cars shown were 300Ds, as far as I could make out. Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 198K mi ___ Euan S Kennedy Christchurch New Zealand ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 100K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/106 - Release Date: 9/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/106 - Release Date: 9/19/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 100K miles, The Van __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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TimothyPilgrim wrote: And I could have a side-business of importing W123's for a biodiesel cooperative! Assuming the rust-n-crush cycle is much slower in NZ than in Canada, maybe they've already got plenty of 123s there? How many 617 engines can you fit in a cargo container? I think it only holds a couple of cars, but it might hold dozens of diesel engines. Maybe throw a bunch of seats that haven't undergone solar destruction.
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Don't know how generous their welfare system is, but Helen Clark, the PM since 1999, is the head of the Labour Party (NZLP), if that's any indicator. OTOH, New Zealanders in general seem to be more levelheaded than Americans are, when it comes to the subject of illegal interlopers. Jerry Ö¿Ö ~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:00 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABC news item on veg oil in US diesels Euan wrote: [How did we get on to this topic?] If the quotas are too generous, we'll end up looking like every other over-populated country in the world. Not only will our vulnerable economy and welfare system struggle to cope but our society will begin to resemble those the migrants are so desperate to leave. How generous is the welfare system? Would somebody from the states want to sign up for it? Can the statesiders offer those who are a couple of months away from running out of welfare benefits the choice of a free ticket to NZ instead? (probably not viable, our non-workers outnumber your population) In other news, some of the non-workers are among the recipients of $2000 relocation cards from FEMA. If you give a bum $50, he'll run to the nearest package liquor store. If you give him $2k, he'll decide it's a reason to celebrate, so he'll go to the nudie bar instead. (yep, FEMA cards have been used in strip clubs) While I'm sure that many people are using the cards as intended, there are some that you cannot help by giving them money. We need a good exportation policy for them.
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Mitch Haley wrote: cannot help by giving them money. We need a good exportation policy for them. So instead of solving the problem you would rather hand it off to somebody else? We have enough money floating around in the gov. to grant research money to study this problem (and I think it is already being done) and actually *solve* what causes it and/or provide a better path out... Random note... when in Sociology some statistics (yes i know) on how long people stayed under the welfare program was quite interesting. I don't remember exactly, but it was a significant portion (70%) stayed in the welfare system for less than 1 year. What the statistic left out IMO was the time frame off of welfare afterwards... (ie you can be off welfare for a month and the above statistic could be supported...) John
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John Robbins wrote: I don't remember exactly, but it was a significant portion (70%) stayed in the welfare system for less than 1 year. If they got out and stayed out, those were the ones who the system was capable of helping. For others, (I hope it's a minority) the welfare system is more crippling than enabling. Those are the ones who will just piss away anything you give them, and raise up another generation in their image. Since their only way of getting a pay raise is from breeding, the next generation is often a big one. When you mention the ills of palming off your culls on others, I think of a case in the 1980s where a midwest judge sentenced a child sex offender to California. I'm also reminded that Australia and probably NZ were settled by England's culls.
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Christopher, You are mistaken on both counts. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:58 AM To: Richard Smith; Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABC news item on veg oil in US diesels I think New Zealand (becuase of their falling population) offers lots of incentives (money, etc) for people to move there... Christopher --- Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Euan, was that on TV or was it on the Internet somewhere we could get to it? Watched a special on New Zealand the other night. It looks like paradise down there. I think I might be living in the wrong hemisphere! On 9/20/05, Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great to see W123s figuring so large in the ABC news item on alternatives to diesel, screened here in New Zealand last night. Some chap who converted his own Benz to run on used restaurant oil is now making his living from fitting kits to other diesels. Don't which part of the US he was in. But all the cars shown were 300Ds, as far as I could make out. Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 198K mi ___ Euan S Kennedy Christchurch New Zealand ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 100K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/106 - Release Date: 9/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/106 - Release Date: 9/19/2005
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That was a chap out of the San Francisco Bay area. Story was nice. Seems to have coincided with a number of green energy gatherings here in the west. On Tuesday, September 20, 2005, at 02:23 AM, Euan wrote: Great to see W123s figuring so large in the ABC news item on alternatives to diesel, screened here in New Zealand last night. Some chap who converted his own Benz to run on used restaurant oil is now making his living from fitting kits to other diesels. Don't which part of the US he was in. But all the cars shown were 300Ds, as far as I could make out. Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 198K mi ___ Euan S Kennedy Christchurch New Zealand ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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And the US to a large extent. Who in their right mind would brave 3000 miles of the North Atlantic unless someone was forcing you out. Don't forget the penal colony of Georgia. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:33 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABC news item on veg oil in US diesels ...I'm also reminded that Australia and probably NZ were settled by England's culls. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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West Island?? Is that how you refer to *shudder* Australia?? Jeff Zedic Toronto
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I think New Zealand (becuase of their falling population) offers lots of incentives (money, etc) for people to move there... Christopher --- Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Euan, was that on TV or was it on the Internet somewhere we could get to it? Watched a special on New Zealand the other night. It looks like paradise down there. I think I might be living in the wrong hemisphere! On 9/20/05, Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great to see W123s figuring so large in the ABC news item on alternatives to diesel, screened here in New Zealand last night. Some chap who converted his own Benz to run on used restaurant oil is now making his living from fitting kits to other diesels. Don't which part of the US he was in. But all the cars shown were 300Ds, as far as I could make out. Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 198K mi ___ Euan S Kennedy Christchurch New Zealand ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 100K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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They won't let you move there--I tried. You may immigrate only if you possess a skill they need. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:58 AM To: Richard Smith; Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABC news item on veg oil in US diesels I think New Zealand (becuase of their falling population) offers lots of incentives (money, etc) for people to move there... Christopher --- Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Euan, was that on TV or was it on the Internet somewhere we could get to it? Watched a special on New Zealand the other night. It looks like paradise down there. I think I might be living in the wrong hemisphere! On 9/20/05, Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great to see W123s figuring so large in the ABC news item on alternatives to diesel, screened here in New Zealand last night. Some chap who converted his own Benz to run on used restaurant oil is now making his living from fitting kits to other diesels. Don't which part of the US he was in. But all the cars shown were 300Ds, as far as I could make out. Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 198K mi ___ Euan S Kennedy Christchurch New Zealand ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 100K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Recent changes in NZ Immigration Policy The drive to attract immigrants in areas of skill shortage, and perhaps a response to growing public concern about levels of immigration from Asia, led to further changes. In 2002 the standard of English required for the general skills category and some of the business categories was raised to the level required of students entering university. In 2003 the general skills category was replaced by a skilled migrant category. This replaced the pass mark system with a process whereby people qualifying above a level of points entered a selection pool, from which they were invited to apply for residence. Applicants had to be of good health and character, and points were allocated on the basis of age, qualifications, employment status, work experience, identified skills shortage and the regional location of any job offer. Skilled/business stream There was still encouragement for business immigrants, including the following groups: - investors, who were expected to contribute a minimum of NZ$1 million - entrepreneurs, who had to prove that they had established a successful business in New Zealand - employees of relocating businesses - others who were given the opportunity to establish a business as the basis for future residence. There were also language tests for business immigrants, although at a lower level. The skilled migrant and business categories were expected to provide 60% of new immigrants. The target was 45,000 a year (plus or minus 5,000). Family-sponsored stream Family members, especially partners and dependent children, were also allocated immigration places, and were expected to comprise 30% of the total number of immigrants each year. International/humanitarian stream An apology At the Chinese New Year celebration on 12 February 2002, Prime Minister Helen Clark made this statement: I wish to announce today that the government has decided to make a formal apology to those Chinese people who paid the poll tax and suffered other discrimination imposed by statute and to their descendants. With respect to the poll tax we recognise the considerable hardship it imposed and that the cost of it and the impact of other discriminatory immigration practices split families apart. Today we also express our sorrow and regret that such practices were once considered appropriate.1http://www.teara.govt.nz/NewZealanders/NewZealandPeoples/ImmigrationRegulation/5/mi#1 The remaining 10% of places were set aside for migrants who arrived for primarily humanitarian reasons. This included refugees and those Pacific Islanders given special access. In 2004 New Zealand's immigration regulations remained blind to race or nationality. But there was some evidence that the focus on skills and the high level of English language requirements were leading to a reduction in the number of immigrants from Asia. On 9/20/05, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They won't let you move there--I tried. You may immigrate only if you possess a skill they need. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:58 AM To: Richard Smith; Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABC news item on veg oil in US diesels I think New Zealand (becuase of their falling population) offers lots of incentives (money, etc) for people to move there... Christopher --- Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Euan, was that on TV or was it on the Internet somewhere we could get to it? Watched a special on New Zealand the other night. It looks like paradise down there. I think I might be living in the wrong hemisphere! On 9/20/05, Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great to see W123s figuring so large in the ABC news item on alternatives to diesel, screened here in New Zealand last night. Some chap who converted his own Benz to run on used restaurant oil is now making his living from fitting kits to other diesels. Don't which part of the US he was in. But all the cars shown were 300Ds, as far as I could make out. Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 198K mi ___ Euan S Kennedy Christchurch New Zealand ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go
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Things have changed a bit. It has been years since I looked into emigrating to Australia or NZ. I do not fault them for their policies. I wish we had a coherent immigration policy. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:07 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABC news item on veg oil in US diesels Recent changes in NZ Immigration Policy The drive to attract immigrants in areas of skill shortage, and perhaps a response to growing public concern about levels of immigration from Asia, led to further changes. In 2002 the standard of English required for the general skills category and some of the business categories was raised to the level required of students entering university. In 2003 the general skills category was replaced by a skilled migrant category. This replaced the pass mark system with a process whereby people qualifying above a level of points entered a selection pool, from which they were invited to apply for residence. Applicants had to be of good health and character, and points were allocated on the basis of age, qualifications, employment status, work experience, identified skills shortage and the regional location of any job offer. Skilled/business stream There was still encouragement for business immigrants, including the following groups: * investors, who were expected to contribute a minimum of NZ$1 million * entrepreneurs, who had to prove that they had established a successful business in New Zealand * employees of relocating businesses * others who were given the opportunity to establish a business as the basis for future residence. There were also language tests for business immigrants, although at a lower level. The skilled migrant and business categories were expected to provide 60% of new immigrants. The target was 45,000 a year (plus or minus 5,000). Family-sponsored stream Family members, especially partners and dependent children, were also allocated immigration places, and were expected to comprise 30% of the total number of immigrants each year. International/humanitarian stream An apology At the Chinese New Year celebration on 12 February 2002, Prime Minister Helen Clark made this statement: I wish to announce today that the government has decided to make a formal apology to those Chinese people who paid the poll tax and suffered other discrimination imposed by statute and to their descendants. With respect to the poll tax we recognise the considerable hardship it imposed and that the cost of it and the impact of other discriminatory immigration practices split families apart. Today we also express our sorrow and regret that such practices were once considered appropriate. http://www.teara.govt.nz/NewZealanders/NewZealandPeoples/ImmigrationRegulation/5/mi#1 1 The remaining 10% of places were set aside for migrants who arrived for primarily humanitarian reasons. This included refugees and those Pacific Islanders given special access. In 2004 New Zealand's immigration regulations remained blind to race or nationality. But there was some evidence that the focus on skills and the high level of English language requirements were leading to a reduction in the number of immigrants from Asia. On 9/20/05, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They won't let you move there--I tried. You may immigrate only if you possess a skill they need. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:58 AM To: Richard Smith; Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABC news item on veg oil in US diesels I think New Zealand (becuase of their falling population) offers lots of incentives (money, etc) for people to move there... Christopher --- Richard Smith mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Euan, was that on TV or was it on the Internet somewhere we could get to it? Watched a special on New Zealand the other night. It looks like paradise down there. I think I might be living in the wrong hemisphere! On 9/20/05, Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great to see W123s figuring so large in the ABC news item on alternatives to diesel, screened here in New Zealand last night. Some chap who converted his own Benz to run on used restaurant oil is now making his living from fitting kits to other diesels. Don't which part of the US he was in. But all the cars shown were 300Ds, as far as I could make out. Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 198K mi ___ Euan S Kennedy Christchurch New Zealand
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Coherent? How about *any* policy? Shoot, in California they give illegal immigrants driver's licenses. (Note the 'illegal' part of that statement.) I wonder if diesel Benz repair would be considered a skill they need in NZ... it's starting to look better down there as things get more crowded up here. O_o -dm -- Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:15:53 -0500 From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABC news item on veg oil in US diesels Things have changed a bit. It has been years since I looked into emigrating to Australia or NZ. I do not fault them for their policies. I wish we had a coherent immigration policy. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536
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Things have changed a bit. It has been years since I looked into emigrating to Australia or NZ. I do not fault them for their policies. I wish we had a coherent immigration policy. [How did we get on to this topic?] I'm no expert on NZ's immigration policies, but that doesn't stop me having a view. Like most small countries struggling in the global economy, New Zealand is haemorrhaging skilled nationals to countries which can afford to pay higher wages and salaries. The remainder stay to enjoy our peaceable quality of life. The skills deficit is being made up by relaxing immigration quotas. If the qualifying skills thresholds are too low, of course, immigration will simply create a new class of migrant labourers who compete for blue-colour jobs with our own nationals. That's not where the shortage is currently. If the quotas are too generous, we'll end up looking like every other over-populated country in the world. Not only will our vulnerable economy and welfare system struggle to cope but our society will begin to resemble those the migrants are so desperate to leave. Besides, not enough migrants bring their W123 diesels with them. Euan CHCH, NZ
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Euan wrote: [How did we get on to this topic?] If the quotas are too generous, we'll end up looking like every other over-populated country in the world. Not only will our vulnerable economy and welfare system struggle to cope but our society will begin to resemble those the migrants are so desperate to leave. How generous is the welfare system? Would somebody from the states want to sign up for it? Can the statesiders offer those who are a couple of months away from running out of welfare benefits the choice of a free ticket to NZ instead? (probably not viable, our non-workers outnumber your population) In other news, some of the non-workers are among the recipients of $2000 relocation cards from FEMA. If you give a bum $50, he'll run to the nearest package liquor store. If you give him $2k, he'll decide it's a reason to celebrate, so he'll go to the nudie bar instead. (yep, FEMA cards have been used in strip clubs) While I'm sure that many people are using the cards as intended, there are some that you cannot help by giving them money. We need a good exportation policy for them.
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What-evil diesel clouding the beauty of NZ? BTW, they're NOT illegal immigrants; they're illegal aliens. Steve Brown Hewlett-Packard Company Global Product Life-cycle Manager Product Lines: 1X, MC, 61, 9C, JP CPQ/DEC Impact Technologies PH: 916.748.8056 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABC news item on veg oil in US diesels Coherent? How about *any* policy? Shoot, in California they give illegal immigrants driver's licenses. (Note the 'illegal' part of that statement.) I wonder if diesel Benz repair would be considered a skill they need in NZ... it's starting to look better down there as things get more crowded up here. O_o -dm -- Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:15:53 -0500 From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABC news item on veg oil in US diesels Things have changed a bit. It has been years since I looked into emigrating to Australia or NZ. I do not fault them for their policies. I wish we had a coherent immigration policy. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536
