Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
Westinghouse 2k inverter, $299 at Sam's, starting today through 8-9. Sold out online in one day, I don't know if you can get one in the warehouse. https://www.samsclub.com/p/westinghouse-igen2200-super-quiet-gas-generator/prod22464750?xid=plp_product_1_5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
I've been thinking about one of the Harbor Freight units. I was at camp early in July and it was real hot so we ran the ceiling fan right up until the charge controller for the solar system said "Enough of that" (10.9v). It the (of course) got real cloudy the next day (but stayed hot) so I pulled out the 3k generattle and pumped 10a/hr into the batteries for about 4 hours a day. Actually it was the next day that I realized that the default float level on our charge controller is 13.6v. I think that means our batteries have been chronically under-charged. I bumped it to 14.4 but of course now I read that it should probably be 14.2. By the time I left a few days later we'd had some sun and were back up to 12.6 or so. It'll be interesting to see how it fares the next time I go. We doubled the capacity of the battery bank in the spring but my mother has no concept of "conserve". She doesn't seem to understand there is a finite amount of power and running a 4a draw 24 hours a day could use it all up. We've got lousy solar exposure so our panels make way under rated wattage. Next time I'm up there I'm going to spend some time making sure that the expose is our issue and not bad wiring... -Curt On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 9:06:29 PM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: I'd advise the 2KW inverter style; quiet, fuel-efficient, and 4-cycle (straight gasoline, no oil mix). The $450 unit from Harbor Freight is quite good although routine servicing requires tools. HF requires adding a fuel stabilizer, a good idea if you want it to work when you need it. > Mitch Haley said > > On Sat, August 1, 2020 1:50 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > > A small generator that can run > > the refrigerator, a fan, and a couple light bulbs can make things > > infinitely more tolerable while camping in the house. > > When gasoline supplies are limited, a 850-1200W micro, or a 2000W variable > speed inverter generator, can be far superior to a 5-7kW generator when it > comes to keeping your food cold and lighting a room. > > My well is 240v, so if I want water I need at least a 3.5kW with 240V. My > usual > method is to run it about 3 hours on, 3 hours off, and it's off about 6 hours > straight while I sleep. In a five day power failure, the stuff in my chest > freezer > gets freezer burn, probably from the overnight off cycles. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
I'd advise the 2KW inverter style; quiet, fuel-efficient, and 4-cycle (straight gasoline, no oil mix). The $450 unit from Harbor Freight is quite good although routine servicing requires tools. HF requires adding a fuel stabilizer, a good idea if you want it to work when you need it. > Mitch Haley said > > On Sat, August 1, 2020 1:50 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > > A small generator that can run > > the refrigerator, a fan, and a couple light bulbs can make things > > infinitely more tolerable while camping in the house. > > When gasoline supplies are limited, a 850-1200W micro, or a 2000W variable > speed inverter generator, can be far superior to a 5-7kW generator when it > comes to keeping your food cold and lighting a room. > > My well is 240v, so if I want water I need at least a 3.5kW with 240V. My > usual > method is to run it about 3 hours on, 3 hours off, and it's off about 6 hours > straight while I sleep. In a five day power failure, the stuff in my chest > freezer > gets freezer burn, probably from the overnight off cycles. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
Quite true. Also, go to a third world country and look for the middle class…in most of them there is none. -D > On Aug 1, 2020, at 8:45 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Poor is relative. The US poverty level income is five times the global > median income. It seems poor people in the US today have more/better stuff > (food, clothes, cars, TVs, shelter, etc.) than my upper middle class family > had in the 50s. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Cathey via Mercedes >> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2020 3:45 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Jim Cathey ; fmiser >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun? >> >>> The poor will always be with us, >> >> And that, literally, _is_ the gospel truth! >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
Poor is relative. The US poverty level income is five times the global median income. It seems poor people in the US today have more/better stuff (food, clothes, cars, TVs, shelter, etc.) than my upper middle class family had in the 50s. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Cathey via Mercedes > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2020 3:45 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Jim Cathey ; fmiser > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun? > > > The poor will always be with us, > > And that, literally, _is_ the gospel truth! > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
Yep. Carlin was a genius. Miss him. Something like: The rich make all the money and pay none of the taxes. The middle class does all the work and pays all the taxes. The poor keep the middle class working hard so they don't end up poor. Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes: > Wasn't it George Carlin that suggested that the poor were important because > they scared the middle class into working hard for fear that they would fall > down to that level? > -Curt > > On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 3:46:15 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > > The poor will always be with us, > > And that, literally, _is_ the gospel truth! > > -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
Wasn't it George Carlin that suggested that the poor were important because they scared the middle class into working hard for fear that they would fall down to that level? -Curt On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 3:46:15 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > The poor will always be with us, And that, literally, _is_ the gospel truth! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
> The poor will always be with us, And that, literally, _is_ the gospel truth! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
> Mitch wrote: > On Fri, July 31, 2020 1:36 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > > When the big blow hit the Carolinas in the 90s, the name which > > escapes me, we were in Wisconsin prepping to ship stuff down > > there after it cleared and had a TV on in the break room. > > National TV news came up with a picture of a service van with > > a Chyron about price gouging. > > > Chyron? Brand name of a text over video processor (character generator). Any informational text/graphic, especially "lower third" (on the bottom 1/3 of the screen) can be called Chyron, even if it wasn't created by a Chyron. > Anyway, let's assume you have 40 units in stock and 400 people > want them, right now, today. What's the best way to allocate > them? Preventing "price gouging" is just interfering with true free market. > 3. Raise the price until only 40 people need them that badly. This is free market. "But it favors the rich" Yup. And motivates those without money to get involved in the market because there is a good opportunity and they might have more. The poor will always be with us, and still poor no matter what is given to them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
On Sat, August 1, 2020 1:50 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > A small generator that can run > the refrigerator, a fan, and a couple light bulbs can make things > infinitely more tolerable while camping in the house. When gasoline supplies are limited, a 850-1200W micro, or a 2000W variable speed inverter generator, can be far superior to a 5-7kW generator when it comes to keeping your food cold and lighting a room. My well is 240v, so if I want water I need at least a 3.5kW with 240V. My usual method is to run it about 3 hours on, 3 hours off, and it's off about 6 hours straight while I sleep. In a five day power failure, the stuff in my chest freezer gets freezer burn, probably from the overnight off cycles. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
The only time I thought hurricanes might be fun was when I was in a disaster control role. In the victim role they were not fun, ever, for me. I lived 4 years on the TX gulf coast and 19 years on the FL gulf coast, almost all "on the water." The rule of thumb is hide from the wind and run from the water. It's a good rule. The worst place to be in a hurricane is stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic trying to evacuate. Evacuate early or not at all. The next worst place is an official shelter; these are simply structures that can probably stand the wind and probably won't flood. There is generally no food, water, or creature comforts and you co-evacuees may kill you for a candy bar. Home is probably best if it's above the storm surge if winds are 100 MPH or less. Cell phones and old-style land lines may work but a battery AM/FM radio is the most reliable source of information. A small generator that can run the refrigerator, a fan, and a couple light bulbs can make things infinitely more tolerable while camping in the house. The power company crews (many from out-of-state are real heroes. If your structure won't survive the expected wind or you are likely to be flooded get out; have a motel (or relatives) reservation before leaving home; they fill up fast. Some motels will take small pets; research that long before you need to know. How "bad:" a storm is for residents depends on intensity (bad) and speed (good). The only time we evacuated was Opal in 1995. Opal had been a stationary Cat 1 storm in the Bay of Campeche (Mexico) when we went to bed. When I rechecked at 0500 the next morning it had suddenly sprinted for our area with a predicted landfall that afternoon at Cat 3 strength. The actual Landfall was 10 miles west of our location (putting us in bad quadrant). With no real planning we put out water and food for the pets, grabbed the go-bag, and left at first light. Soon I-10 became total gridlock so we took the very next exit (which required two more hours) and SWMBO navigated secondary roads to Albany GA, where we spent the next two days. When we returned, the house was intact (even though nothing had been boarded up) but my boat (a Columbia 8.7) was on the bottom. Many trees were down, and fences flattened, docks pulled up, and the receding water left many tons of other debris (no bodies, thankfully). Living without power was uncomfortable and it took me several weeks to cleanup (I was much younger then). Lessons: keep vehicles fueled. Have cash. Have a bugout location in hip pocket. Don't let the cupboard get bare. Observe generator safety-especially monoxide and gasoline. Secure lose outdoor items. Protect vulnerable windows. Scott . > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:04 PM > To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes > Cc: Kaleb Striplin > Subject: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun? > > Asking for a friend. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
A Chyron is the lower third graphic bar you see on the screen with text-based graphics on it. It’s a brand name of the original systems that did tese graphics, turned generic, like Kleenex or dumpster. We had nothing in our distribution contracts about pricing, as the commercial stuff is all bid based, so you can’t really say someone is price gouging if the market supports the price. But consumer stuff is a who ‘nother ball game, and they didn't anticipate that. After this occurred Legal went in and rewrote all the contracts to cover such an occurrence. I believe (although I don’t have first hand knowledge) that the distributor agued just this point and management backed down. After all, they sold a boatload of product, which is a good thing. -D > On Jul 31, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Fri, July 31, 2020 1:36 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> When the big blow hit the Carolinas in the 90s, the name which escapes >> me, we were in Wisconsin prepping to ship stuff down there after it >> cleared and had a TV on in the break room. National TV news came up with >> a picture of a service van with a Chyron about price gouging. > > > Chyron? > > Anyway, let's assume you have 40 units in stock and 400 people want them, > right now, today. What's the best way to allocate them? > > 1. Sell them in the next hour to the first 40 people who lay down the money. > 2. Have a lottery. > 3. Raise the price until only 40 people need them that badly. > > 1.5 Attempt to do method #1, and get bought out by the first 5 > hoarders/resellers. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
On Fri, July 31, 2020 2:16 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > I could see that. > > > Understand that Florida has very strict laws about price gouging by > retailers (!) and they pursue them aggressively. Not sure that they have > any sway over private sales, they might. I just haven't paid that much > attention. Michigan does too. And I've heard of some places going after the private party reseller/gougers who clear the store shelves. Remember 9-11-2001? When the price of gas went up 50 cents in one day, while cars lined up in the streets, and gasoline wholesellers told the retailers that they didn't know when or at what price they could deliver more? Michigan's Attorney General, Jennifer Granholm, sent out demand letters to all the gas stations, basically saying 'you'll give refunds to anybody who asks for them, no proof of purchased required, or I'll bankrupt you in the courts'. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
The problem with such laws is that they are something like trying to outlaw gravity. If you force the price to be lower than the demand, you create a shortage (and usually a black market, if that term is still allowed). There is no way around it. A few early buyers get lucky, everyone else gets nothing, regardless of what their needs are. If stores had been allowed to charge $10/roll for toilet paper in April, we would not have had shortages, and the price would have then self-adjusted to the true demand. Allan Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > I could see that. > > Understand that Florida has very strict laws about price gouging by retailers > (!) and they pursue them aggressively. Not sure that they have any sway over > private sales, they might. I just haven’t paid that much attention. > > -D > >> On Jul 31, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: >> >>> Anyway, let's assume you have 40 units in stock and 400 people want them, >>> right now, today. What's the best way to allocate them? >>> >>> 1. Sell them in the next hour to the first 40 people who lay down the money. >>> 2. Have a lottery. >>> 3. Raise the price until only 40 people need them that badly. >>> >>> 1.5 Attempt to do method #1, and get bought out by the first 5 >>> hoarders/resellers. >> >> I suppose you could auction them off. Best of both worlds, in >> theory. You get a price that recognizes the demand, but you're not >> "gouging" since the bidders are the ones raising the price. >> >> Allan >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
I could see that. Understand that Florida has very strict laws about price gouging by retailers (!) and they pursue them aggressively. Not sure that they have any sway over private sales, they might. I just haven’t paid that much attention. -D > On Jul 31, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: > >> Anyway, let's assume you have 40 units in stock and 400 people want them, >> right now, today. What's the best way to allocate them? >> >> 1. Sell them in the next hour to the first 40 people who lay down the money. >> 2. Have a lottery. >> 3. Raise the price until only 40 people need them that badly. >> >> 1.5 Attempt to do method #1, and get bought out by the first 5 >> hoarders/resellers. > > I suppose you could auction them off. Best of both worlds, in > theory. You get a price that recognizes the demand, but you're not > "gouging" since the bidders are the ones raising the price. > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: > Anyway, let's assume you have 40 units in stock and 400 people want them, > right now, today. What's the best way to allocate them? > > 1. Sell them in the next hour to the first 40 people who lay down the money. > 2. Have a lottery. > 3. Raise the price until only 40 people need them that badly. > > 1.5 Attempt to do method #1, and get bought out by the first 5 > hoarders/resellers. I suppose you could auction them off. Best of both worlds, in theory. You get a price that recognizes the demand, but you're not "gouging" since the bidders are the ones raising the price. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
On Fri, July 31, 2020 1:36 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > When the big blow hit the Carolinas in the 90s, the name which escapes > me, we were in Wisconsin prepping to ship stuff down there after it > cleared and had a TV on in the break room. National TV news came up with > a picture of a service van with a Chyron about price gouging. Chyron? Anyway, let's assume you have 40 units in stock and 400 people want them, right now, today. What's the best way to allocate them? 1. Sell them in the next hour to the first 40 people who lay down the money. 2. Have a lottery. 3. Raise the price until only 40 people need them that badly. 1.5 Attempt to do method #1, and get bought out by the first 5 hoarders/resellers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
When the big blow hit the Carolinas in the 90s, the name which escapes me, we were in Wisconsin prepping to ship stuff down there after it cleared and had a TV on in the break room. National TV news came up with a picture of a service van with a Chyron about price gouging. It was a service van belonging to our distributor with their name and the Kohler logo on it. Needless to say, there were some very heated phone calls between our management and their principals. We nearly pulled their distribution contract I heard. -D > On Jul 31, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > > Right after Sandy rolled through NY I had a student come up for a 2 day > class. I thought it was weird that he actually showed up but before he left > he went to Home Depot and bought a truckload of generators and gas cans. When > he hit Connecticut he filled the gas cans. At home he sold the generators for > what he paid +25% and the gas at (IIRC) $5/gal. > > One guy complained that he was "price gouging" to which my student replied "I > drove to Massachusetts, do you want a generator or not?" Sold out in like 15 > minutes. > > So he made a small profit on the gas and generators and his employer paid for > the trip... > > -Curt > > On Friday, July 31, 2020, 8:34:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > It’s unlikely we’ll even know it’s in the neighborhood the way things are > looking. We’ll get some rain bands (30 minutes of rain, then sunshine for an > hour, lather, rinse, repeat) if anything. We’re in our summer weather cycle > of late afternoon pop-up thunderstorms, so we’re good for rain these days. > > Agreed - the big threat is loose stuff flying around and trees coming down. I > have an arborist who takes care of our trees. Not cheap, but he keeps them > trimmed in a manner that’s appropriate and it lessens the likelihood of limbs > coming down or off during a storm. For that matter, they actually provide a > bit of a buffer in high winds as well. I’m convinced the 65 acres of tall > oaks behind my former house were the main reason we saw almost nothing in the > way of damage when Irma blew through here. > > I’ve got a 6.5 kW portable generator with about 10 hours on it. Now that I’ve > got a whole house standby set I may very well sell the portable when the next > hurricane comes through and demand exceed supply. Heck, I might make my money > back on it. > > -D > > > On Jul 31, 2020, at 7:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > The storms themselves are kinda interesting. I have ridden my bike down to > > the beach during the last few in the daytime. That’s kinda fun. > > > > The problems come from stuff that blows around and falling trees. The > > aftermath is usually the problem if power is out for some extended time. A > > generator (and plenty of fuel) to plug in the fridge and some lights and > > the modem is a huge help. > > > > Looks like with this one we’ll get some good rain (which we need)and > > minimal wind. > > --FT > > Sent from iPhone > > > >> On Jul 30, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >> > >> Asking for a friend. > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
Right after Sandy rolled through NY I had a student come up for a 2 day class. I thought it was weird that he actually showed up but before he left he went to Home Depot and bought a truckload of generators and gas cans. When he hit Connecticut he filled the gas cans. At home he sold the generators for what he paid +25% and the gas at (IIRC) $5/gal. One guy complained that he was "price gouging" to which my student replied "I drove to Massachusetts, do you want a generator or not?" Sold out in like 15 minutes. So he made a small profit on the gas and generators and his employer paid for the trip... -Curt On Friday, July 31, 2020, 8:34:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: It’s unlikely we’ll even know it’s in the neighborhood the way things are looking. We’ll get some rain bands (30 minutes of rain, then sunshine for an hour, lather, rinse, repeat) if anything. We’re in our summer weather cycle of late afternoon pop-up thunderstorms, so we’re good for rain these days. Agreed - the big threat is loose stuff flying around and trees coming down. I have an arborist who takes care of our trees. Not cheap, but he keeps them trimmed in a manner that’s appropriate and it lessens the likelihood of limbs coming down or off during a storm. For that matter, they actually provide a bit of a buffer in high winds as well. I’m convinced the 65 acres of tall oaks behind my former house were the main reason we saw almost nothing in the way of damage when Irma blew through here. I’ve got a 6.5 kW portable generator with about 10 hours on it. Now that I’ve got a whole house standby set I may very well sell the portable when the next hurricane comes through and demand exceed supply. Heck, I might make my money back on it. -D > On Jul 31, 2020, at 7:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > The storms themselves are kinda interesting. I have ridden my bike down to > the beach during the last few in the daytime. That’s kinda fun. > > The problems come from stuff that blows around and falling trees. The > aftermath is usually the problem if power is out for some extended time. A > generator (and plenty of fuel) to plug in the fridge and some lights and the > modem is a huge help. > > Looks like with this one we’ll get some good rain (which we need)and minimal > wind. > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jul 30, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Asking for a friend. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
I live out in the woods, trees all around the house and on the vast estate and neighboring properties. The scariest part is listening to the wind howl and rain pour down in the night with no power and hearing trees crashing down in the woods and hoping none of them fall on the house. The first time it was marginally terrifying. So far here I have only experienced a weak CAT2 (maybe) and CAT1s or just TSs on the other ones. I'm not even sure I would evacuate for anything below a CAT4 although being on the marsh on a tidal creek I would worry about flooding, but that is going to happen whether I am here or not and might not be too bad as far as I am from the ocean. My concern if I leave would be getting back, I'm at the end of a 2-lane road that has tree canopy for about 12miles. It might take weeks to get roads open. I'd rather stay and take care of any damage to the house or whatever than having it sit for a long time. I can stock up on food and fuel and whatnot so that wouldn't really be a big problem, but if anything really bad were to happen, getting out would be the issue, although a boat would work I suppose, just bypass the roads. --FT On 7/31/20 8:33 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: It’s unlikely we’ll even know it’s in the neighborhood the way things are looking. We’ll get some rain bands (30 minutes of rain, then sunshine for an hour, lather, rinse, repeat) if anything. We’re in our summer weather cycle of late afternoon pop-up thunderstorms, so we’re good for rain these days. Agreed - the big threat is loose stuff flying around and trees coming down. I have an arborist who takes care of our trees. Not cheap, but he keeps them trimmed in a manner that’s appropriate and it lessens the likelihood of limbs coming down or off during a storm. For that matter, they actually provide a bit of a buffer in high winds as well. I’m convinced the 65 acres of tall oaks behind my former house were the main reason we saw almost nothing in the way of damage when Irma blew through here. I’ve got a 6.5 kW portable generator with about 10 hours on it. Now that I’ve got a whole house standby set I may very well sell the portable when the next hurricane comes through and demand exceed supply. Heck, I might make my money back on it. -D On Jul 31, 2020, at 7:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: The storms themselves are kinda interesting. I have ridden my bike down to the beach during the last few in the daytime. That’s kinda fun. The problems come from stuff that blows around and falling trees. The aftermath is usually the problem if power is out for some extended time. A generator (and plenty of fuel) to plug in the fridge and some lights and the modem is a huge help. Looks like with this one we’ll get some good rain (which we need)and minimal wind. --FT Sent from iPhone On Jul 30, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Asking for a friend. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
It’s unlikely we’ll even know it’s in the neighborhood the way things are looking. We’ll get some rain bands (30 minutes of rain, then sunshine for an hour, lather, rinse, repeat) if anything. We’re in our summer weather cycle of late afternoon pop-up thunderstorms, so we’re good for rain these days. Agreed - the big threat is loose stuff flying around and trees coming down. I have an arborist who takes care of our trees. Not cheap, but he keeps them trimmed in a manner that’s appropriate and it lessens the likelihood of limbs coming down or off during a storm. For that matter, they actually provide a bit of a buffer in high winds as well. I’m convinced the 65 acres of tall oaks behind my former house were the main reason we saw almost nothing in the way of damage when Irma blew through here. I’ve got a 6.5 kW portable generator with about 10 hours on it. Now that I’ve got a whole house standby set I may very well sell the portable when the next hurricane comes through and demand exceed supply. Heck, I might make my money back on it. -D > On Jul 31, 2020, at 7:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > The storms themselves are kinda interesting. I have ridden my bike down to > the beach during the last few in the daytime. That’s kinda fun. > > The problems come from stuff that blows around and falling trees. The > aftermath is usually the problem if power is out for some extended time. A > generator (and plenty of fuel) to plug in the fridge and some lights and the > modem is a huge help. > > Looks like with this one we’ll get some good rain (which we need)and minimal > wind. > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jul 30, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Asking for a friend. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
The storms themselves are kinda interesting. I have ridden my bike down to the beach during the last few in the daytime. That’s kinda fun. The problems come from stuff that blows around and falling trees. The aftermath is usually the problem if power is out for some extended time. A generator (and plenty of fuel) to plug in the fridge and some lights and the modem is a huge help. Looks like with this one we’ll get some good rain (which we need)and minimal wind. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 30, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Asking for a friend. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
The ones I’ve been in are fairly dull. Irma was probably the worst, maybe 75 mph winds. I’ve probably been in at least five if not more, in the early oughts (2003? 2005?) we had three of them pass us in short order, like within a few weeks. I live in a newer area with well constructed homes and underground utilities, so even in storms like Irma we never lost power (or cable.) The worst thing about living in Florida is not the hurricanes. It’s the week or so before the hurricanes. For those of you living in more temperate areas, think about it this way: When inclement weather is coming, say, a snowstorm or blizzard, you’ll know it a couple days in advance. Two days out and you’re cleaning out the shelves at the local Stop ’n Shop for toilet paper, bread and milk. You have a day or two in order to prepare, the storm comes, you hunker down, it’s gone, all done. Go shovel the front walk and driveway and you’re done. In Florida and elsewhere, as soon as a “tropical wave” is identified in the Atlantic, the fun begins. If you’re lucky, it’s clear from the get-go there’s no threat and you go about your business. If you look at the latest one, you’ll see that we knew something was brewing last week. Where was it going? Who knows? Now that it’s a couple days out it’s *pretty* clear we won’t be disturbed by it at all. However, we’ve been on pins and needles for the last week wondering if it’s going to hit us. We’re still not out of danger, as things can change and change quickly, so there’s a lot of glancing over your shoulder, so to speak. For instance, Irma was bearing down directly on us and in less than four hours before it arrived it moved a couple of degrees and ended up missing us by about 50 miles. In other words, we get a good week of stress before things really ramp up, and when they do it’s all hands on deck and man the battle stations. Storm prep takes a good day to complete, and if you need food or materials you’ll be fighting a good part of the population for it. The stress leading up to the (potential) storm sucks. The storms themselves aren’t that bad. Just a lot of wind and rain. If your home is modern and you’re prepared it’s not that big of a deal. And lucky me - my 24kW Kohler standby set is being commissioned on Saturday morning. I’m sure that’s what caused the current storm to move away from us. -D > On Jul 30, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Asking for a friend. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
