Re: [MBZ] Bad idea

2008-04-05 Thread Kevin Kraly
dangerous with one of the newer can bus
cars because of the strong possibility of electronic damage due to voltage 
spikes.

Yeah, my heart skipped a beat on that one too.  This is the very reason that 
the '07 Dodge Ram wasn't used to jump the '95 Rodeo who's batttery had gone 
dead.  The 300sD wasn't there, so the '91 Rodeo did the job.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] Bad idea

2008-04-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
Guess that's the last time you'll get the fancy car.
Far as jump starting 'new' cars with fancy electronics, far as I know it 
is still doable but the penalties for stuffing it up are har$her.
There should be a section in the operators manual about this but 
*always* connect the positive ends first and then double check to make 
sure the + is connected to the + on the other vehicle and make sure you 
only connect 12v and 12v. This is where people have stuffed up and hence 
the bogeyman warns you about jumping new cars.
Once + and + are connected and the voltage matches you may connect the - 
to the - but make sure that - don't touch + by mistake.

Hendrik
who once connected a 12v ute to a 24v truck but because the truck was 
the one with weak batteries all that happened was that the lights on the 
ute got a bit brighter about the time I remembered that the old truck 
was a positive earth 24v creation from pommie land

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yesterday I was allowed to drive the new E320 to the old nuke plant. When 
 it
 was time to leave, one of my trainees could start his car and he asked for a
 jump. It was funny to watch him and everyone else that was nearby in the
 parking lot wonder what the heck I was doing when I was backing up towards
 the front of his old bomb..

 
 Oh boy. This sort of thing is very dangerous with one of the newer can bus 
 cars because of the strong possibility of electronic damage due to voltage 
 spikes. You should have known better. As to the deactivation of the passenger 
 airbag with the seat empty, it's supposed to be that way. What kind of a 
 warning?

  My car has a very small warning lit up whenever the set is empty but it's 
 not in the instrument cluster. And of course, being a '08 model is an 
 electronic 
 generation or two newer.

 RLE




   

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Re: [MBZ] Bad idea

2008-04-05 Thread Jim Cathey
 dangerous with one of the newer can bus
 cars because of the strong possibility of electronic damage due to 
 voltage
 spikes.

A lot of the danger can be mitigated by making sure the donor
car is OFF when you hit the patient's starter.  That and, of
course, making sure you use proper cabling procedure.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Bad idea

2008-04-05 Thread Luther
We tell this to our truck drivers all the time when they self-jump.

Luther

On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:21:27 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dangerous with one of the newer can bus
 cars because of the strong possibility of electronic damage due to
 voltage
 spikes.

 A lot of the danger can be mitigated by making sure the donor
 car is OFF when you hit the patient's starter.  That and, of
 course, making sure you use proper cabling procedure.

 -- Jim




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'87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine

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Re: [MBZ] Bad idea

2008-04-04 Thread RELNGSON
 Yesterday I was allowed to drive the new E320 to the old nuke plant. When 
 it
 was time to leave, one of my trainees could start his car and he asked for a
 jump. It was funny to watch him and everyone else that was nearby in the
 parking lot wonder what the heck I was doing when I was backing up towards
 the front of his old bomb..
 
Oh boy. This sort of thing is very dangerous with one of the newer can bus 
cars because of the strong possibility of electronic damage due to voltage 
spikes. You should have known better. As to the deactivation of the passenger 
airbag with the seat empty, it's supposed to be that way. What kind of a 
warning?

 My car has a very small warning lit up whenever the set is empty but it's 
not in the instrument cluster. And of course, being a '08 model is an 
electronic 
generation or two newer.

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] Bad idea

2008-04-04 Thread Gary Hurst
it's true.  modern cars aren't stout enough for stuff like jump starting.
that why i drive a 79. jump start people.  drive over big curves.  hit speed
bumps at triple digit speeds.   take it out on the trail.  all the stuff you
just can't do in a modern car.

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yesterday I was allowed to drive the new E320 to the old nuke plant.
 When
  it
  was time to leave, one of my trainees could start his car and he asked
 for a
  jump. It was funny to watch him and everyone else that was nearby in the
  parking lot wonder what the heck I was doing when I was backing up
 towards
  the front of his old bomb..
 
 Oh boy. This sort of thing is very dangerous with one of the newer can bus
 cars because of the strong possibility of electronic damage due to voltage
 spikes. You should have known better. As to the deactivation of the
 passenger
 airbag with the seat empty, it's supposed to be that way. What kind of a
 warning?

  My car has a very small warning lit up whenever the set is empty but it's
 not in the instrument cluster. And of course, being a '08 model is an
 electronic
 generation or two newer.

 RLE





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