Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's true - my Mercedes takes speed bumps and RR tracks better at 45 MPH than > at 25 MPH. Mine takes the "15 mph" speed humps on a nearby street pretty comfortably at 25 mph, but that provokes an interesting set of noises from the front end, so I tend to limit myself to 20. ;)
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
I have a pair of Monroe's on the front of my 240D - compared to the
Bilsteins, the Monroes are almost half the diameter of the Bilsteins!!I
plan to replace them shortly.
Sincerely,
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Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
Just for the record, a Bilstein just failed after six months of service on one of my 300 SDLs. The drivers side front started leaking oil but seemed to have not lost any performance. The amazing Gary had a new one on my porch the next day and the old one has been returned for warranty credit. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
I think I get the idea! I shopped around, and the cheapest I could get the Bilsteins for was around $80. I talked to my mechanic, and he said he would do it for what I would pay for just the shocks.I'll be back to driving the 80 SD, and my kid has been warned not to tear up the 84 SD. Now if I could just get the climate control system on the 80 SD to work Thanks for the info. Kevin
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
My 116 came with worn out, 2-3 year old, low mileage Sears shocks on it. Probably Monroe or Gabriel products. One of the backs was devoid of fluid, letting the tire dribble like a basketball. The other three aren't as good as 150kmi Bilsteins.
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
Levi Smith wrote: My 83' 300D has Gabriel's that the previous owner must have put in. What's the opinion on these? Garbage, because: This being my first Benz, I'm thinking it rides about like it should (kind of big and smooth, kinda like a boat), but I wouldn't mind a lot of firming up. I like the car more "solid" feeling. That's not how a Benz is supposed to feel. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
My 83' 300D has Gabriel's that the previous owner must have put in. What's the opinion on these? This being my first Benz, I'm thinking it rides about like it should (kind of big and smooth, kinda like a boat), but I wouldn't mind a lot of firming up. I like the car more "solid" feeling. Levi On Wednesday 19 October 2005 12:25 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Go with the Bilsteins and if possible and you can find them Sachs or Boge > are just as good I have Sachs on my VW (they are standard equipment on VW's > anyway) and the ride is firm but in my opinion not as harsh as the > Bilsteins > > 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles > 72 350SL 108,000 Miles > 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion > 1999 Mazda Miata >
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
you may not have to look for anything oher than just a simple heavy duty replacement spring and shock as long as it the trailer doesn't exceed your cars towing capacity. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:02:36 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD I am looking to start pulling a small trailer on a regular basis with my '83 SD. Has anyone looked into spring/shock upgrades in the rear to compensate for the extra weight? It'd be awesome if I had the self-leveling of the later 126 S class cars. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 18, 2005 11:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD Go with the Bilsteins and if possible and you can find them Sachs or Boge are just as good I have Sachs on my VW (they are standard equipment on VW's anyway) and the ride is firm but in my opinion not as harsh as the Bilsteins Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
I am looking to start pulling a small trailer on a regular basis with my '83 SD. Has anyone looked into spring/shock upgrades in the rear to compensate for the extra weight? It'd be awesome if I had the self-leveling of the later 126 S class cars. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 18, 2005 11:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD Go with the Bilsteins and if possible and you can find them Sachs or Boge are just as good I have Sachs on my VW (they are standard equipment on VW's anyway) and the ride is firm but in my opinion not as harsh as the Bilsteins Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
Go with the Bilsteins and if possible and you can find them Sachs or Boge are just as good I have Sachs on my VW (they are standard equipment on VW's anyway) and the ride is firm but in my opinion not as harsh as the Bilsteins 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:10:39 EDT Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD In a message dated 10/18/2005 9:28:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marshall - I suck at math. That is why I took my first degree in Music -- no math courses required. Strange that I took my next degree in Business / MIS with lots of post-grad courses in Econ. But that is a different thread. Math problem to follow. Now, I realize that you are mature individual, pretty smart in lots of things -- including Benz stuff. But are you saying that you have replaced EIGHTY shocks in your lifetime and they lasted 150k miles? Divided by four per car, that is twenty cars if you blew out the shocks in each one. You haulin' around fat chicks or something? :-) I am 52 and as far as I can remember, only put in new shocks once in my lifetime. That was rear only on my '74 Duster and not because I needed them but because I just wanted to do so, to upgrade. That being said, I am due for new shocks in my '77 and I appreciate the guidance. But again -- EIGHTY? Don On 10/19/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Almost every Bilstein > shock I've ever owned (more than 80 of 'em) lasted at least 150kmi and > some went longer than 200kmi. > well i suppose if some body can have 16 kids. lol ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/
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In a message dated 10/18/2005 9:28:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marshall - I suck at math. That is why I took my first degree in Music -- no math courses required. Strange that I took my next degree in Business / MIS with lots of post-grad courses in Econ. But that is a different thread. Math problem to follow. Now, I realize that you are mature individual, pretty smart in lots of things -- including Benz stuff. But are you saying that you have replaced EIGHTY shocks in your lifetime and they lasted 150k miles? Divided by four per car, that is twenty cars if you blew out the shocks in each one. You haulin' around fat chicks or something? :-) I am 52 and as far as I can remember, only put in new shocks once in my lifetime. That was rear only on my '74 Duster and not because I needed them but because I just wanted to do so, to upgrade. That being said, I am due for new shocks in my '77 and I appreciate the guidance. But again -- EIGHTY? Don On 10/19/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Almost every Bilstein > shock I've ever owned (more than 80 of 'em) lasted at least 150kmi and > some went longer than 200kmi. > well i suppose if some body can have 16 kids. lol
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
It's true - my Mercedes takes speed bumps and RR tracks better at 45 MPH than at 25 MPH. Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 Quoting OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've been told, but have never tried to verify, that a Mercedes has > more suspension travel than most cars, and is designed to use that > range of travel. That's why you can drive your Merecedes over railroad > tracks and speed bumps at speeds that would throw the passengers of a > Japanese car through the roof, and not be bothered by them. This range > of travel is not accounted for in the cheaper shocks. > > On 10/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Shocks" aren't really shocks. They are motion dampers that absorb the > up & > > down motion of the car body & they convert 100% of the motion they > dampen into > > heat. Just drive your car a few miles then pull over & carefully touch > one of > > your shocks. > > > > All shocks that I know of are dampened in both directions but the > cheap shocks > > have smaller tubes, cheaper seals and cheaper valving. All of this > adds up to > > a shock that will not dampen as well, will run hotter & will wear out > faster. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > www.kegkits.com > > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC > The FSM created the Diesel Benz > http://www.venganza.org/ > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
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we ...can put a ..."shortblock " chevy engine in these and these run with out heads? these danm cars ARE remarkable h collins 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
I've been told, but have never tried to verify, that a Mercedes has more suspension travel than most cars, and is designed to use that range of travel. That's why you can drive your Merecedes over railroad tracks and speed bumps at speeds that would throw the passengers of a Japanese car through the roof, and not be bothered by them. This range of travel is not accounted for in the cheaper shocks. On 10/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Shocks" aren't really shocks. They are motion dampers that absorb the up & > down motion of the car body & they convert 100% of the motion they dampen into > heat. Just drive your car a few miles then pull over & carefully touch one of > your shocks. > > All shocks that I know of are dampened in both directions but the cheap shocks > have smaller tubes, cheaper seals and cheaper valving. All of this adds up to > a shock that will not dampen as well, will run hotter & will wear out faster. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
"Shocks" aren't really shocks. They are motion dampers that absorb the up & down motion of the car body & they convert 100% of the motion they dampen into heat. Just drive your car a few miles then pull over & carefully touch one of your shocks. All shocks that I know of are dampened in both directions but the cheap shocks have smaller tubes, cheaper seals and cheaper valving. All of this adds up to a shock that will not dampen as well, will run hotter & will wear out faster. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Quoting Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As far as I understand, the Bilsteins/Boge shocks are damped in both > directions of travel whereas the crappy aftermarket ones aren't. > > Read that somewhere via a link from someone on this list in the last > year. > > You ask a question; you get an answer... not always the one you > wanted but an honest answer. Collective wisdom can be a wonderful > thing. > > Jeff Zedic > Toronto > 87 300TD > 83 300D > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
I can vouch for Marshall's experience. I've owned 15 Mercedes and have replaced shocks in about . 18 Mercedes, including the ones on my oldest Son's cars. The "youngest" Mercedes I've bought to date had 135,000 miles on the clock and in every case, I replaced the original shocks. Most had over 150,000 miles when I replaced the shocks. Put Monroe shocks on you Mercedes if you'd like. I tried that once and they lasted 35,000 miles. That's about 8 months of driving for me. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Quoting Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > LT Don wrote: > > Marshall - > > > > I suck at math. That is why I took my first degree in Music -- no > math > > courses required. Strange that I took my next degree in Business / MIS > with > > lots of post-grad courses in Econ. But that is a different thread. > Math > > problem to follow. > > > > Now, I realize that you are mature individual, pretty smart in lots > of > > things -- including Benz stuff. But are you saying that you have > replaced > > EIGHTY shocks in your lifetime and they lasted 150k miles? Divided by > four > > per car, that is twenty cars if you blew out the shocks in each one. > > > > You haulin' around fat chicks or something? :-) > > > > I am 52 and as far as I can remember, only put in new shocks once in > my > > lifetime. That was rear only on my '74 Duster and not because I needed > them > > but because I just wanted to do so, to upgrade. > > > > That being said, I am due for new shocks in my '77 and I appreciate > the > > guidance. > > > > But again -- EIGHTY? > > Most of the used Mercedes I bought (18 used Mercedes) had ORIGINAL > shocks (that's 72 shocks) and I replaced some of them (I estimate at > least 20 but maybe a few more) and run some of those - a few more than > 150kmi. Then I've replaced shocks on a few of the new Mercedes I bought > > new (5 of 'em - that 20 original shocks and there were at least 8 > replacements in those cars). I'm not up to validating all the numbers, > but that's pretty close. > > Marshall > -- > Marshall Booth Ph.D. > Ass't Prof. (ret.) > Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine > Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST > Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
As far as I understand, the Bilsteins/Boge shocks are damped in both directions of travel whereas the crappy aftermarket ones aren't. Read that somewhere via a link from someone on this list in the last year. You ask a question; you get an answer... not always the one you wanted but an honest answer. Collective wisdom can be a wonderful thing. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D
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Damn. Don On 10/19/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > LT Don wrote: > > Marshall - > > > > I suck at math. That is why I took my first degree in Music -- no math > > courses required. Strange that I took my next degree in Business / MIS > with > > lots of post-grad courses in Econ. But that is a different thread. Math > > problem to follow. > > > > Now, I realize that you are mature individual, pretty smart in lots of > > things -- including Benz stuff. But are you saying that you have > replaced > > EIGHTY shocks in your lifetime and they lasted 150k miles? Divided by > four > > per car, that is twenty cars if you blew out the shocks in each one. > > > > You haulin' around fat chicks or something? :-) > > > > I am 52 and as far as I can remember, only put in new shocks once in my > > lifetime. That was rear only on my '74 Duster and not because I needed > them > > but because I just wanted to do so, to upgrade. > > > > That being said, I am due for new shocks in my '77 and I appreciate the > > guidance. > > > > But again -- EIGHTY? > > Most of the used Mercedes I bought (18 used Mercedes) had ORIGINAL > shocks (that's 72 shocks) and I replaced some of them (I estimate at > least 20 but maybe a few more) and run some of those - a few more than > 150kmi. Then I've replaced shocks on a few of the new Mercedes I bought > new (5 of 'em - that 20 original shocks and there were at least 8 > replacements in those cars). I'm not up to validating all the numbers, > but that's pretty close. > > Marshall > -- > Marshall Booth Ph.D. > Ass't Prof. (ret.) > Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine > Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST > Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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LT Don wrote: Marshall - I suck at math. That is why I took my first degree in Music -- no math courses required. Strange that I took my next degree in Business / MIS with lots of post-grad courses in Econ. But that is a different thread. Math problem to follow. Now, I realize that you are mature individual, pretty smart in lots of things -- including Benz stuff. But are you saying that you have replaced EIGHTY shocks in your lifetime and they lasted 150k miles? Divided by four per car, that is twenty cars if you blew out the shocks in each one. You haulin' around fat chicks or something? :-) I am 52 and as far as I can remember, only put in new shocks once in my lifetime. That was rear only on my '74 Duster and not because I needed them but because I just wanted to do so, to upgrade. That being said, I am due for new shocks in my '77 and I appreciate the guidance. But again -- EIGHTY? Most of the used Mercedes I bought (18 used Mercedes) had ORIGINAL shocks (that's 72 shocks) and I replaced some of them (I estimate at least 20 but maybe a few more) and run some of those - a few more than 150kmi. Then I've replaced shocks on a few of the new Mercedes I bought new (5 of 'em - that 20 original shocks and there were at least 8 replacements in those cars). I'm not up to validating all the numbers, but that's pretty close. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
Marshall - I suck at math. That is why I took my first degree in Music -- no math courses required. Strange that I took my next degree in Business / MIS with lots of post-grad courses in Econ. But that is a different thread. Math problem to follow. Now, I realize that you are mature individual, pretty smart in lots of things -- including Benz stuff. But are you saying that you have replaced EIGHTY shocks in your lifetime and they lasted 150k miles? Divided by four per car, that is twenty cars if you blew out the shocks in each one. You haulin' around fat chicks or something? :-) I am 52 and as far as I can remember, only put in new shocks once in my lifetime. That was rear only on my '74 Duster and not because I needed them but because I just wanted to do so, to upgrade. That being said, I am due for new shocks in my '77 and I appreciate the guidance. But again -- EIGHTY? Don On 10/19/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Almost every Bilstein > shock I've ever owned (more than 80 of 'em) lasted at least 150kmi and > some went longer than 200kmi. > -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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Uh ... I am due for new shocks. Can I take that a Gospel? On 10/18/05, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > YES! CAPITALS, double strike, emphasis, italic > > > > a third the price of the Bilsteins. Is it really going to matter in a 25 > >year old car? > > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even think twice about it. What's wrong with Boge/Sachs? Yeah, and hate to fart in church, but IIRC back in the days of the 'other' Mercedes list, a couple of guys installed Monroes and were very happy with them. Monroe has come a long way in terms of the shocks it specs for imports. They aren't your grandpa's Buick shocks no more. Mac There are people that put short block Chevy engines in Mercedes cars too and some LOVE 'em, but I want NO part of that. Almost every Bilstein shock I've ever owned (more than 80 of 'em) lasted at least 150kmi and some went longer than 200kmi. I have NEVER seen a Monroe (and have used dozens of 'em) that provided even bearable damping on a Mercedes for even 25-30kmi. The Mercedes suspension was designed to use Bilsteins (or Boge/Sachs). The Monroe spec out even close and the quality of construction isn't even close. In my opinion, KYBs are better than Monroes, but they quickly become really quite unacceptable after 10-15kmi. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:48:36PM -0400, John Ervine wrote: > > What they said. I think the Bilstein pleasure rated shocks can be had for > > $49 each, change the front two first if money is tight. You DO NOT want > > the > > heavy duty or sport. You will get a lifetime guarantee. > > I personally prefer the Bilstein Heavy Duty shocks over the comforts. More > feedback from the car is a better thing, IMNSHO... Though they make a 201 ride like a chopped rice rocket. And for a while, when the exhaust was so rusty that the gases weren't getting to the muffler, it sounded like a rice rocket too. K, not trying to start a "201s suck" thread
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What they said. I think the Bilstein pleasure rated shocks can be had for $49 each, change the front two first if money is tight. You DO NOT want the heavy duty or sport. You will get a lifetime guarantee. I personally prefer the Bilstein Heavy Duty shocks over the comforts. More feedback from the car is a better thing, IMNSHO... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK Don wrote: >> >> What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even >> think twice about it. > > What's wrong with Boge/Sachs? Yeah, and hate to fart in church, but IIRC back in the days of the 'other' Mercedes list, a couple of guys installed Monroes and were very happy with them. Monroe has come a long way in terms of the shocks it specs for imports. They aren't your grandpa's Buick shocks no more. Mac
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Mitch Haley wrote: OK Don wrote: What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even think twice about it. What's wrong with Boge/Sachs? Nothing but they're harder to find and usually (but not always) more expensive. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even think twice about it.>> What they said. I think the Bilstein pleasure rated shocks can be had for $49 each, change the front two first if money is tight. You DO NOT want the heavy duty or sport. You will get a lifetime guarantee. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 138 K miles
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OK Don wrote: > > What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even > think twice about it. What's wrong with Boge/Sachs?
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What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even think twice about it. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
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The Monroes will ride substantially worse than the worn out shocks you have now. Bilsteins, even with abuse, should oulast your son's interest in the car. BTDT, will NEVER do it again. You'd be better off to weld the shocks solid and use the tires for "bounce" -- at least you wouldn't expect shock abosorber action. He should, of course, offer to buy them for your since he abused your car Peter
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YES! CAPITALS, double strike, emphasis, italic a third the price of the Bilsteins. Is it really going to matter in a 25 year old car?
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Kevin Beswick wrote: My kid is tearing up my 80 300SD. The latest is a broken shock. It looks like the bottom washer on the top mount broke, and the top of the shock is sticking up about 4 inches. The Monroe shocks are about a third the price of the Bilsteins. Is it really going to matter in a 25 year old car? I'll be driving it from now on mostly. His 84 SD is finally on the road. Thanks Kevin PLEASE do not put Monroe or KYBs on the Mercedes. See if you can find a working Bilstein (they usually last 150-200+kmi) used. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
It matters. Had monroe changed to Bilsteins. Huge difference in ride and feel on a 123 chassis. Do not know on the your chassis but probablly true. Well worth the money Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Kevin Beswick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD My kid is tearing up my 80 300SD. The latest is a broken shock. It looks like the bottom washer on the top mount broke, and the top of the shock is sticking up about 4 inches. The Monroe shocks are about a third the price of the Bilsteins. Is it really going to matter in a 25 year old car? I'll be driving it from now on mostly. His 84 SD is finally on the road. Thanks Kevin ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
