Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-29 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Hell , even though I didn’t get a stimulus check, I’d still pony up a cool 
$1000 for it sight unseen. It’d be my retirement vehicle (replacing the ‘08 
CLK350 Cabriolet the boy totaled).
Kaleb has to pay for that fact tractor. He’s short on car buying moolah. 

Bob R


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> On Apr 29, 2020, at 1:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Heh. You beat the Klebster to it. I’ve been waiting for him to make his 
> stock offer.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 4:07 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'll give you $500 for it, and all your troubles will be gone.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:41 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok so I’m an idiot- there is in fact a coolant hose which goes into the
>>> bottom of the expansion tank. So I was finally able to check for bubbles
>>> and coolant surge and there was none. I will change the oil and see what
>>> happens.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 29, 2020, at 10:08 AM, MG via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
 
 Disconnect that line from the tank and put it into a glass of water and
>>> look for bubbles. Keep the connection on the tank closed with your finger
>>> and keep the cap on it.
 
 MG
 
 Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> Right but I don’t have a radiator neck, I have a coolant expansion tank
>>> with the hose entering the tank up high. How will I see bubbles or coolant
>>> surge in this situation?
> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
>>> Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run
>>> engine
>>> till it has clean oil.
>>> 
>>> Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head
>>> gasket is
>>> leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and
>>> compression gas
>>> will bubble up...
>>> If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler
>>> neck each
>>> time you rev up the engine...
>>> If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
>>> If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
>>> 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
 since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
 started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto,
>>> no
 more idling!
> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
> 
> You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green
>>> stuff,
 right?
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
OK - I will stick my my necykout:  $600!!

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 4:34 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’ve been waiting for the $500 offer. You cheap no good bastids!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 29, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'll give you $500 for it, and all your troubles will be gone.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:41 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok so I’m an idiot- there is in fact a coolant hose which goes into the
> >> bottom of the expansion tank. So I was finally able to check for bubbles
> >> and coolant surge and there was none. I will change the oil and see what
> >> happens.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 10:08 AM, MG via Mercedes 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Disconnect that line from the tank and put it into a glass of water
> and
> >> look for bubbles. Keep the connection on the tank closed with your
> finger
> >> and keep the cap on it.
> >>>
> >>> MG
> >>>
> >>> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>  Right but I don’t have a radiator neck, I have a coolant expansion
> tank
> >> with the hose entering the tank up high. How will I see bubbles or
> coolant
> >> surge in this situation?
>  Sent from my iPhone
> >> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
> >> Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run
> >> engine
> >> till it has clean oil.
> >>
> >> Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head
> >> gasket is
> >> leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and
> >> compression gas
> >> will bubble up...
> >> If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler
> >> neck each
> >> time you rev up the engine...
> >> If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
> >> If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand
> miles
> >>> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without
> getting
> >>> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter
> pronto,
> >> no
> >>> more idling!
>  Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
> 
>  You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green
> >> stuff,
> >>> right?
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I’ve been waiting for the $500 offer. You cheap no good bastids!

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> On Apr 29, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'll give you $500 for it, and all your troubles will be gone.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:41 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok so I’m an idiot- there is in fact a coolant hose which goes into the
>> bottom of the expansion tank. So I was finally able to check for bubbles
>> and coolant surge and there was none. I will change the oil and see what
>> happens.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 10:08 AM, MG via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Disconnect that line from the tank and put it into a glass of water and
>> look for bubbles. Keep the connection on the tank closed with your finger
>> and keep the cap on it.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
 Right but I don’t have a radiator neck, I have a coolant expansion tank
>> with the hose entering the tank up high. How will I see bubbles or coolant
>> surge in this situation?
 Sent from my iPhone
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
>> Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run
>> engine
>> till it has clean oil.
>> 
>> Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head
>> gasket is
>> leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and
>> compression gas
>> will bubble up...
>> If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler
>> neck each
>> time you rev up the engine...
>> If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
>> If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
>>> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
>>> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto,
>> no
>>> more idling!
 Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
 
 You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green
>> stuff,
>>> right?
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Heh. You beat the Klebster to it. I’ve been waiting for him to make his stock 
offer.

-D

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 4:07 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'll give you $500 for it, and all your troubles will be gone.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:41 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ok so I’m an idiot- there is in fact a coolant hose which goes into the
>> bottom of the expansion tank. So I was finally able to check for bubbles
>> and coolant surge and there was none. I will change the oil and see what
>> happens.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 10:08 AM, MG via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Disconnect that line from the tank and put it into a glass of water and
>> look for bubbles. Keep the connection on the tank closed with your finger
>> and keep the cap on it.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
 Right but I don’t have a radiator neck, I have a coolant expansion tank
>> with the hose entering the tank up high. How will I see bubbles or coolant
>> surge in this situation?
 Sent from my iPhone
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
>> Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run
>> engine
>> till it has clean oil.
>> 
>> Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head
>> gasket is
>> leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and
>> compression gas
>> will bubble up...
>> If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler
>> neck each
>> time you rev up the engine...
>> If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
>> If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
>>> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
>>> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto,
>> no
>>> more idling!
 Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
 
 You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green
>> stuff,
>>> right?
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-29 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I'll give you $500 for it, and all your troubles will be gone.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:41 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ok so I’m an idiot- there is in fact a coolant hose which goes into the
> bottom of the expansion tank. So I was finally able to check for bubbles
> and coolant surge and there was none. I will change the oil and see what
> happens.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 29, 2020, at 10:08 AM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Disconnect that line from the tank and put it into a glass of water and
> look for bubbles. Keep the connection on the tank closed with your finger
> and keep the cap on it.
> >
> > MG
> >
> > Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Right but I don’t have a radiator neck, I have a coolant expansion tank
> with the hose entering the tank up high. How will I see bubbles or coolant
> surge in this situation?
> >> Sent from my iPhone
>  On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
>  Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run
> engine
>  till it has clean oil.
> 
>  Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head
> gasket is
>  leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and
> compression gas
>  will bubble up...
>  If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler
> neck each
>  time you rev up the engine...
>  If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
>  If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
> 
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
> > since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
> > started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto,
> no
> > more idling!
> >> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
> >>
> >> You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green
> stuff,
> > right?
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Ok so I’m an idiot- there is in fact a coolant hose which goes into the bottom 
of the expansion tank. So I was finally able to check for bubbles and coolant 
surge and there was none. I will change the oil and see what happens. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 10:08 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Disconnect that line from the tank and put it into a glass of water and look 
> for bubbles. Keep the connection on the tank closed with your finger and keep 
> the cap on it.
> 
> MG
> 
> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> Right but I don’t have a radiator neck, I have a coolant expansion tank with 
>> the hose entering the tank up high. How will I see bubbles or coolant surge 
>> in this situation?
>> Sent from my iPhone
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
 Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run engine
 till it has clean oil.
 
 Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head gasket is
 leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression gas
 will bubble up...
 If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck each
 time you rev up the engine...
 If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
 If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
> 
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>> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no
> more idling!
>> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
>> 
>> You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
Disconnect that line from the tank and put it into 
a glass of water and look for bubbles. Keep the 
connection on the tank closed with your finger and 
keep the cap on it.


MG

Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

Right but I don’t have a radiator neck, I have a coolant expansion tank with 
the hose entering the tank up high. How will I see bubbles or coolant surge in 
this situation?

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On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run engine
till it has clean oil.

Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head gasket is
leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression gas
will bubble up...
If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck each
time you rev up the engine...
If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...


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Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.

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Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no

more idling!

Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.

You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,

right?

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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-28 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Yes, if you have a blown head gasket, you will see bubbles... as engine
warms up, gasket leak will leak more, which will induce compression gasses
into the cooling system...
Depending on how bad the gasket or corrosion pinhole problem is, you will
see bubbles.. or if it's worse, at high idle or middle speed, the intruding
gas will "burp" the coolant out of the overflow tank.
If you have a car with a radiator cap, at the top radiator tank, remove the
cap and watch what happens to coolant as you run the engine.. speed up
engine... coolant surge, with gas intrusion... sure sign you have
combustion gas inserting into coolant system.

Tear down will tell you where, unless your exray vision glasses are
handy... ;))

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Right but I don’t have a radiator neck, I have a coolant expansion tank
> with the hose entering the tank up high. How will I see bubbles or coolant
> surge in this situation?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
> >> Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run
> engine
> >> till it has clean oil.
> >>
> >> Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head
> gasket is
> >> leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression
> gas
> >> will bubble up...
> >> If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck
> each
> >> time you rev up the engine...
> >> If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
> >> If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
> >>> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
> >>> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto,
> no
> >>> more idling!
> 
>  Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
> 
>  You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
> >>> right?
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-28 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Right but I don’t have a radiator neck, I have a coolant expansion tank with 
the hose entering the tank up high. How will I see bubbles or coolant surge in 
this situation?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
>> Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run engine
>> till it has clean oil.
>> 
>> Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head gasket is
>> leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression gas
>> will bubble up...
>> If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck each
>> time you rev up the engine...
>> If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
>> If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
>>> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
>>> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no
>>> more idling!
 
 Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
 
 You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
>>> right?
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-28 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
If you want an engine to last, be sure to get the oil up to operating
temperature every time the engine is started, and keep it there for 20 to
30 minutes. This evaporates the moisture in the oil that forms as a result
of the combustion process every time the engine is started.

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> Ok I will change oil and filter tomorrow. Any utility in doing a
> compression test?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
> > Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run
> engine
> > till it has clean oil.
> >
> > Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head gasket
> is
> > leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression
> gas
> > will bubble up...
> > If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck
> each
> > time you rev up the engine...
> > If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
> > If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
> >> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
> >> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no
> >> more idling!
> >>>
> >>> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
> >>>
> >>> You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
> >> right?
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
> Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run engine
> till it has clean oil.
> 
> Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head gasket is
> leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression gas
> will bubble up...
> If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck each
> time you rev up the engine...
> If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
> If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
> 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
>> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
>> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no
>> more idling!
>>> 
>>> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
>>> 
>>> You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
>> right?
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-28 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Ok I will change oil and filter tomorrow. Any utility in doing a compression 
test?

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
> Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run engine
> till it has clean oil.
> 
> Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head gasket is
> leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression gas
> will bubble up...
> If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck each
> time you rev up the engine...
> If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
> If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
>> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
>> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no
>> more idling!
>>> 
>>> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
>>> 
>>> You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-28 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run engine
till it has clean oil.

Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head gasket is
leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression gas
will bubble up...
If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck each
time you rev up the engine...
If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no
> more idling!
> >
> > Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
> >
> > You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-28 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles since. 
Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting started. Oil was 
changed 4.5 years ago.

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no more 
> idling!
> 
> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-28 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Coolant loss is to the outside from reservoir.

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no more 
> idling!
> 
> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-28 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
There was a 1 foot square puddle of coolant on the ground. The hose that goes 
to coolant reservoir from radiator is at top of coolant reservoir and way above 
high water mark so I don’t think it would create bubbles.

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> Get it up to temperature and have someone rev the throttle while you look in 
> the coolant reservoir for bubbles.
> 
> What’s a “good amount” of coolant? Not being snarky, just trying to get an 
> idea of how much was coming out and how fast.
> 
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>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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>> My pagoda has been sitting for 3.5 years. It starts and runs well but I 
>> noticed a good amount of coolant leaking from overflow tube and this slight 
>> emulsion in oil. Could it be possible it’s just moisture condensation in 
>> crankcase from long term storage? Or is it dreaded corroded head or blown 
>> head gasket?
>> Not noticing white smoke from exhaust or overheating. Not driving it just 
>> idling in garage and driveway.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Get it up to temperature and have someone rev the throttle while you look in 
the coolant reservoir for bubbles.

What’s a “good amount” of coolant? Not being snarky, just trying to get an idea 
of how much was coming out and how fast.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My pagoda has been sitting for 3.5 years. It starts and runs well but I 
> noticed a good amount of coolant leaking from overflow tube and this slight 
> emulsion in oil. Could it be possible it’s just moisture condensation in 
> crankcase from long term storage? Or is it dreaded corroded head or blown 
> head gasket?
> Not noticing white smoke from exhaust or overheating. Not driving it just 
> idling in garage and driveway.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

2020-04-28 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no more 
idling!

Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.

You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff, right?
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