Re: [MBZ] DIY Paintless Dent Removal
Got the PDR tools today. Comments: Kit is reasonably complete, I'll also need some alcohol (empty spray bottle included in kit), a glass protector panel to slip inside doors to keep the picks from scratching the glass, a heat gun for warming the paint in sharp creases, some longer picks in the 30-45" range to reach the bottoms of doors, and it would be handy to have an airbag door spreader in addition to the plastic door wedge. The kits on AliExpress have instruction booklets, this one does not. Plenty of instruction materials on Youtube and I can always buy a DIY book or two. Space is limited in the tool bag, but you can cram all the non-pick tools in it and get it zipped shut if you try hard enough. I even managed to get the LED line board and a USB wall plug in there. Has a few pockets in the sides to hold the glue tabs, knockdown punches, hand puller etc. If you use the bag you'll find yourself digging for whatever is in the bottom of the pile in the bag. Everything appears to be cheap but serviceable, except the pick tools aren't polished to a mirror finish and the flat bladed picks have a milled texture on the sides almost like they're files. Not only would the milled picks take the paint off the inside the panel, I bet they'd emboss their texture in thin fenders and it would show through the paint. It'll take some grinding/sanding/buffing before I'd dare use those things. I haven't tried the LED line board so I don't know if it'll stick solidly to a car or not, and I suspect the lighting is inadequate. Maybe I should have bought a set with an unlit reflecting line board instead. I guess you get what you pay for. Chinese PDR picks usually run around $10ea when you buy a set, and I don't know if they're any better than the ones in this kit. I got ten picks included in a $125 kit, the nonpick items basically duplicate the $90 sets on AliExpress, and similar sets of ten picks run $70-100. > On October 9, 2017 at 12:02 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/262977911935 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Paintless Dent Removal
Interesting, my HF heat gun has been a trooper, it's heated my boots to put bees wax in, heated the compressor so it'll start when it's cold, defrosted the fridge a couple times while I've been slow about getting parts. I think I paid $10 and it's been well worth it. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: My Hazard Fraught heat gun died quickly, was replaced with a hair dryer that certainly is not as hot and SWMBO tried to claim it several times (so I've got to hide it well). I move up to a blue wrench if more heat is needed. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Paintless Dent Removal
I have a Milwaukee Electric heat gun. The real deal, metal nose on it, etc., not a slightly dangerous hair drier. Two heat settings: hot, and catch-on-filre hot. The lab techs where I used to work would light their cigarettes in the lab with tools like these. (This was a while ago.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Paintless Dent Removal
I have a HF heat gun that has served me well for a number of years. I think I paid $8.00 with a coupon. It got dropped a while back, breaking the back corner on the top which exposes some of the innards, but it still works just fine. -D > On Oct 9, 2017, at 8:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On October 9, 2017 at 8:21 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> My Hazard Fraught heat gun died quickly, was replaced with a hair dryer that >> certainly is not as hot and SWMBO tried to claim it several times (so I've >> got to hide it well). I move up to a blue wrench if more heat is needed. > > But I need a heat gun to: > 1. Expand dented body steel while reshaping. > 2. Soften paint in severe creases so it doesn't crack like the paint on my > Cruze's right fender while I'm straightening it. > 3. Warm up plastic bumpers while straightening out dents. (this is where the > bazillion temperature settings beats one or two heat settings) > > That's not propane torch work. > Besides, the idea of soldering pipes with a heat gun has some appeal to me, > and that Furno 750 comes with a pipe heating attachment. > > Oh, that PDR tool kit I bought from a California eBay seller at 11pm? > I just got an email from UPS telling me to expect a 16lb delivery from Win.It > America tomorrow. Turns out WinIt is an inventory/shipping management company > for eBay sellers. And the only thing I can remember buying recently is that > tool set. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Paintless Dent Removal
> On October 9, 2017 at 8:21 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > My Hazard Fraught heat gun died quickly, was replaced with a hair dryer that > certainly is not as hot and SWMBO tried to claim it several times (so I've > got to hide it well). I move up to a blue wrench if more heat is needed. But I need a heat gun to: 1. Expand dented body steel while reshaping. 2. Soften paint in severe creases so it doesn't crack like the paint on my Cruze's right fender while I'm straightening it. 3. Warm up plastic bumpers while straightening out dents. (this is where the bazillion temperature settings beats one or two heat settings) That's not propane torch work. Besides, the idea of soldering pipes with a heat gun has some appeal to me, and that Furno 750 comes with a pipe heating attachment. Oh, that PDR tool kit I bought from a California eBay seller at 11pm? I just got an email from UPS telling me to expect a 16lb delivery from Win.It America tomorrow. Turns out WinIt is an inventory/shipping management company for eBay sellers. And the only thing I can remember buying recently is that tool set. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Paintless Dent Removal
My Hazard Fraught heat gun died quickly, was replaced with a hair dryer that certainly is not as hot and SWMBO tried to claim it several times (so I've got to hide it well). I move up to a blue wrench if more heat is needed. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Paintless Dent Removal
I bought one from HF for $20 that gets VERY HOT! Have used it several times with no problems. YMMV. Gerry Mitch Haley wrote: > Ended up buying this, made a lowball $125 offer, thinking acceptance would be > automated and I'd walk my offer up until they took it. > A half hour after I made my $125 offer, they accepted it. > If the quality is at all decent, $125 is a very low price for this kit. > http://www.ebay.com/itm/262977911935 > > Now, should I blow my savings on a $70 heat gun? > http://www.homedepot.com/p/Wagner-Furno-750-Heat-Gun-0503064/206723944 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- arche...@embarqmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Paintless Dent Removal
> On October 9, 2017 at 12:02 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Ended up buying this, made a lowball $125 offer, thinking acceptance would be > automated and I'd walk my offer up until they took it. > A half hour after I made my $125 offer, they accepted it. > If the quality is at all decent, $125 is a very low price for this kit. > http://www.ebay.com/itm/262977911935 Looking at seller's feedback history, he's sold it from $103 to $160, and got feedback from one buyer who had an offer accepted when it was listed at $103. I guess I should have offered $100 instead of $125. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Paintless Dent Removal
Ended up buying this, made a lowball $125 offer, thinking acceptance would be automated and I'd walk my offer up until they took it. A half hour after I made my $125 offer, they accepted it. If the quality is at all decent, $125 is a very low price for this kit. http://www.ebay.com/itm/262977911935 Now, should I blow my savings on a $70 heat gun? http://www.homedepot.com/p/Wagner-Furno-750-Heat-Gun-0503064/206723944 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Paintless Dent Removal
This is a good explanation of how to use a line board: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzjL1rxMNKs If you really want to learn, and are willing to pay for it, this guy might be a good one to try: http://www.dentperfectpdrschool.com/index.php/contact ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Paintless Dent Removal
One of the youtube channels is mostly a collection of trailers for a video education series. The F1 guy I linked doing the fender/door an an A class has a lot of demo videos, but they're not classroom quality. And I've got several bent body parts laying around to practice on. I can start with the discarded fenders from the 2003 ML and the 2016 Cruze. The Cruze is made of tissue. The ML will take some serious force to straighten. It seems the main point of it is to get close with the glue tab pulling, then set up the light box or lined reflector panel to highlight the remaining damage, and SLOWLY work it back into shape. But I saw one guy who worked the raised edges of a roof side rail dent a LOT before sticking a glue tab in the middle and pulling it, then he worked it some more. The way he talked he could feel it softening in the center and wanting to come back out to its original shape while he worked the edges. Mitch. > On October 8, 2017 at 3:04 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > How do you get training to use those tools? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Paintless Dent Removal
How do you get training to use those tools? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
