Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
LarryT wrote: The home Powder coat system needs approx 425F. While I;m limited to small projects, I have a toaster oven which works for the home system. I just don't have room for a full-sized oven - higher temps is not necesssary - at least for my small jobs. I assume a large item would drop the temp when it first enters the oven and the oven would need to recover to the 425 needed. So I think heat recovery time is more critical than max high temp. You need to get the metal part itself, not the air around it, to curing temp for the duration of the cure time. If the part weighs 20 pounds, it will take a while. Powder coating wheels probably takes a lot longer than ceramic coating pistons. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
I have an electric oven already saved for the job.. Mike - Original Message - From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating A coworker used a kit he obtained fron Eastwood to powder coat 4 old ratty aluminum wheels. They came out VERY nice. Remember you have to have ability to bake at about 400 degrees. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, Fun to drive so far 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 196Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
Mike Canfield wrote: I have an electric oven already saved for the job.. At least 16 wide by 16 deep?
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Actually over 24x 24 by a bit. Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating Mike Canfield wrote: I have an electric oven already saved for the job.. At least 16 wide by 16 deep? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, but Mama would be mighty peeved when her cookies came out tasting and smelling like your wheels. Mike - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating --bake at 400 degrees. 'Sounds like a project for Mama's oven. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
Hmm... What temperature do you need it at? I've got an oven sitting in my barn that works other than the normal range of the thermostat. i.e. it'll still hold like 700F for the clean cycle... Probably not much use for most things. I think I'm gonna have to chuck it... Levi On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but Mama would be mighty peeved when her cookies came out tasting and smelling like your wheels. Mike - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating --bake at 400 degrees. 'Sounds like a project for Mama's oven. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm... What temperature do you need it at? I've got an oven sitting in my barn that works other than the normal range of the thermostat. i.e. it'll still hold like 700F for the clean cycle... Probably not much use for most things. I think I'm gonna have to chuck it... Would make a good pizza oven. You need a *really* hot oven for a good pizza, it's not unheard of for people to override the cleaning cycle lockout on their home ovens to get the temperature into that range. Commercial pizza deck ovens run at about 600 or more, the convection/conveyor style (which IMO produce an inferior pizza) are a little cooler. My gas oven at home has a digital thermostat, it will go to 550 which is just barely adequate for a good homemade pizza if you use a pizza stone. I've not tried the cleaning cycle trick, myself. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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Then the next thing would probably be to defeat the oven lock. Otherwise I'm guessing that pizza would be good and crispy since you'd have to put it in before it reached that temp and couldn't check it and you'd have to wait until the oven cooled down before it would let you open the door.. (: Levi On 5/25/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm... What temperature do you need it at? I've got an oven sitting in my barn that works other than the normal range of the thermostat. i.e. it'll still hold like 700F for the clean cycle... Probably not much use for most things. I think I'm gonna have to chuck it... Would make a good pizza oven. You need a *really* hot oven for a good pizza, it's not unheard of for people to override the cleaning cycle lockout on their home ovens to get the temperature into that range. Commercial pizza deck ovens run at about 600 or more, the convection/conveyor style (which IMO produce an inferior pizza) are a little cooler. My gas oven at home has a digital thermostat, it will go to 550 which is just barely adequate for a good homemade pizza if you use a pizza stone. I've not tried the cleaning cycle trick, myself. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hi Levi, I am not certain of the exact temp needed but I do know it must be an electric oven or it will explode.Is your oven electric? If nothing else tin price is up and that old oven is actually worth a couple bucks at the scrapyard. I bet a toaster oven would work for really small parts and practicing. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating Hmm... What temperature do you need it at? I've got an oven sitting in my barn that works other than the normal range of the thermostat. i.e. it'll still hold like 700F for the clean cycle... Probably not much use for most things. I think I'm gonna have to chuck it... Levi On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but Mama would be mighty peeved when her cookies came out tasting and smelling like your wheels. Mike - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating --bake at 400 degrees. 'Sounds like a project for Mama's oven. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ahh, sounds like the powdercoating is flammable, or otherwise gets that way in an enclosed heated area... Yeah, probably just a couple bucks though. Some guy stopped by last weekend looking for scrap. I may make him up a pile of stuff, just doesn't quite seem worth the hassle to me if someone is willing to take it for free. Levi On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Levi, I am not certain of the exact temp needed but I do know it must be an electric oven or it will explode.Is your oven electric? If nothing else tin price is up and that old oven is actually worth a couple bucks at the scrapyard. I bet a toaster oven would work for really small parts and practicing. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating Hmm... What temperature do you need it at? I've got an oven sitting in my barn that works other than the normal range of the thermostat. i.e. it'll still hold like 700F for the clean cycle... Probably not much use for most things. I think I'm gonna have to chuck it... Levi On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but Mama would be mighty peeved when her cookies came out tasting and smelling like your wheels. Mike - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating --bake at 400 degrees. 'Sounds like a project for Mama's oven. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then the next thing would probably be to defeat the oven lock. Otherwise I'm guessing that pizza would be good and crispy since you'd have to put it in before it reached that temp and couldn't check it and you'd have to wait until the oven cooled down before it would let you open the door.. (: That's what I meant by override the cleaning cycle lockout. Defeat or Disable would have been a better word. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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AAAhhh, I kind of understood what you meant, but I was thinking you meant to defeat it so that you could take the oven to temps above what the cleaning cycle was meant for... This makes more sense... (: Levi On 5/25/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then the next thing would probably be to defeat the oven lock. Otherwise I'm guessing that pizza would be good and crispy since you'd have to put it in before it reached that temp and couldn't check it and you'd have to wait until the oven cooled down before it would let you open the door.. (: That's what I meant by override the cleaning cycle lockout. Defeat or Disable would have been a better word. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
I see a host of old stoves for free on CL and am sure you could shove one in the garage with a huge extension cord to your dryer plug in. Bound to be able to reach at least 500* for a few hours as needed. Also will not upset SWMBA by baking your own wheels and brownies out there. On May 25, 2007, at 1:23 AM, Peter T. Arnold wrote: A coworker used a kit he obtained fron Eastwood to powder coat 4 old ratty aluminum wheels. They came out VERY nice. Remember you have to have ability to bake at about 400 degrees. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, Fun to drive so far 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 196Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
Could easily make up a box and use stove elements and oven control too. Have seen that sort of thing in electric motor rewind shops. They bake the rebuilt motor over night to cure the varnish type stuff on the wire if I recall correctly. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 11:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating I see a host of old stoves for free on CL and am sure you could shove one in the garage with a huge extension cord to your dryer plug in. Bound to be able to reach at least 500* for a few hours as needed. Also will not upset SWMBA by baking your own wheels and brownies out there. On May 25, 2007, at 1:23 AM, Peter T. Arnold wrote: A coworker used a kit he obtained fron Eastwood to powder coat 4 old ratty aluminum wheels. They came out VERY nice. Remember you have to have ability to bake at about 400 degrees. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, Fun to drive so far 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 196Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Levi, Where I take my scrap(Champion's in Lodi) I am getting over $100 per ton for junk cars stuffed full of old appliances and suchIf you have alot and a reasonable way to haul it it's worthwhile. If not, like you said, just best to give it away for the convenience. Keep an eye out for catalytic converters and set them aside, they are worth very good money and can make a load of scrap pay pretty well if you can get 3 or 4 as the smallest ones are bringing $35 as long as the honeycomb is intact. Copper is paying well over $1 if not $2 a pound now as well. Pretty easy to come up with a couple hundred bucks worth of junk in a big hurry. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating Ahh, sounds like the powdercoating is flammable, or otherwise gets that way in an enclosed heated area... Yeah, probably just a couple bucks though. Some guy stopped by last weekend looking for scrap. I may make him up a pile of stuff, just doesn't quite seem worth the hassle to me if someone is willing to take it for free. Levi On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Levi, I am not certain of the exact temp needed but I do know it must be an electric oven or it will explode.Is your oven electric? If nothing else tin price is up and that old oven is actually worth a couple bucks at the scrapyard. I bet a toaster oven would work for really small parts and practicing. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating Hmm... What temperature do you need it at? I've got an oven sitting in my barn that works other than the normal range of the thermostat. i.e. it'll still hold like 700F for the clean cycle... Probably not much use for most things. I think I'm gonna have to chuck it... Levi On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but Mama would be mighty peeved when her cookies came out tasting and smelling like your wheels. Mike - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating --bake at 400 degrees. 'Sounds like a project for Mama's oven. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
The home Powder coat system needs approx 425F. While I;m limited to small projects, I have a toaster oven which works for the home system. I just don't have room for a full-sized oven - higher temps is not necesssary - at least for my small jobs. I assume a large item would drop the temp when it first enters the oven and the oven would need to recover to the 425 needed. So I think heat recovery time is more critical than max high temp. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating I see a host of old stoves for free on CL and am sure you could shove one in the garage with a huge extension cord to your dryer plug in. Bound to be able to reach at least 500* for a few hours as needed. Also will not upset SWMBA by baking your own wheels and brownies out there. On May 25, 2007, at 1:23 AM, Peter T. Arnold wrote: A coworker used a kit he obtained fron Eastwood to powder coat 4 old ratty aluminum wheels. They came out VERY nice. Remember you have to have ability to bake at about 400 degrees. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, Fun to drive so far 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 196Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM
