Re: [MBZ] Here comes an oil thread -- Sorry in advance it is a new topic though its about a gasser
I use the Mobil1 weight suggested by the manuf. in the Civic and Corolli in my fleet. Don't know how cold it gets in Wichita but I feel I get a little insurance with synthetics approaching 0F in N. Ill. May be an old husbands tale about flowing quicker, remaining viscous and adhering to metal longer after shut down but it has worked for me. The Honda, Toyotas and 300SD start up immediately no matter how cold. The 240D and 164L, well they're a different story for different reasons Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1993 Civic 1999 Corolla 1993 Corolla 1991 AR 164L __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Here comes an oil thread
I'm sure I'm coming late to the party but I use synthetic largely because that way I don't have to spend as much time actually doing oil changes... My '96 Dodge Dakota gasser is now at 8,000 mile changes thanks to oil analysis through Larry T's service. The 190D will get the same testing and hopefully go even longer. The Dodge gets changed because it doesn't get driven enough (~5 miles a day) and has fuel contamination in the oil. To your questions: #1. I'd advise it if for no other reason than to save time. #2. Sure although a gasser doesn't show its love of the benefits as obviously, I did notice easier starts when I switched and as I've said in the past oil consumption went way down. #3. Doesn't really matter. I'd check the chart in the manual and see what MB recommends in the temp range you expect to run in and then pick something based on that. I use 10w30 in my Dodge because a: Its whats recommended and b: Its what the quickie lube place in town has. If they had 5w40 I'd use that. All oil additives are snakeoil IMHO. Mobil 1 is just excellent oil and might possibly make the seals last longer but nothing will save a worn out engine. -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:22:50 -0600 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Here comes an oil thread -- Sorry in advance it is a new topic though its about a gasser To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Okay, I am fully aware of the great level of debate regarding oil brands. Dr. Booth had me convinced to switch and was going to but then I sold the diesel. So, here's my question. Is Mobil 1 worth it in a gas engine. I know that Mobil 1 is excellent at keeping soot in suspension and lasts longer without breakdown in the harsh environment of a diesel engine, but I have a few questions for my new (to me) purchase 1990 300SEL 122k miles. 1. Should I use Mobil 1? 2. Does it offer the benefits that it does for diesels? 3. What weight should I use? These engines have some issues with valve seals after high mileage. This car does not use/burn any oil in 3000 miles. Which makes me think two things, it will eventually need the seals or it may have already had them done. The original owner (bought it new sold it in 2003) had an extended warranty and evidently had a lot of work done, so it is possible it was already done. It had 76,000 when it was sold in 2003. Is there any oil or additive, or snake oil that can prolong that I can add or use to prolong the life of the valve seals? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 - Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 11 15:06:14 2006 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.202]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EwhYE-00044U-5r for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:06:14 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so205923nzh for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:06:12 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=c8EYhxB+Oz0pMOhi8D99v/oPObSpLwP+vF/qS4fAHGWVdh0Sa2uB79U5e5i5cyBoA43s7KiPB0ueFKm8tvaOS2Up4ayU72poDroT76plWoBMg6QT+eWDZuyDAbhu9DcWVuY93QRGiA7yLU029QdLeF93AYp3ASaeFZ8TJ3nkwg4= Received: by 10.37.14.38 with SMTP id r38mr804714nzi; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:06:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.106.13 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:06:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:06:09 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 crash video X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:06:14 - A 123 with an
Re: [MBZ] Here comes an oil thread -- Sorry in advance it is a newtopic though its about a gasser
I use Mobil 1 15W-50 in all three of the ours, buy it at Walmart James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL 1995 E320 - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] Here comes an oil thread -- Sorry in advance it is a newtopic though its about a gasser Okay, I am fully aware of the great level of debate regarding oil brands. Dr. Booth had me convinced to switch and was going to but then I sold the diesel. So, here's my question. Is Mobil 1 worth it in a gas engine. I know that Mobil 1 is excellent at keeping soot in suspension and lasts longer without breakdown in the harsh environment of a diesel engine, but I have a few questions for my new (to me) purchase 1990 300SEL 122k miles. 1. Should I use Mobil 1? 2. Does it offer the benefits that it does for diesels? 3. What weight should I use? These engines have some issues with valve seals after high mileage. This car does not use/burn any oil in 3000 miles. Which makes me think two things, it will eventually need the seals or it may have already had them done. The original owner (bought it new sold it in 2003) had an extended warranty and evidently had a lot of work done, so it is possible it was already done. It had 76,000 when it was sold in 2003. Is there any oil or additive, or snake oil that can prolong that I can add or use to prolong the life of the valve seals? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Here comes an oil thread -- Sorry in advance it is a new topic though its about a gasser
Minimum input here then I shall remain mute -- I run the asked-for weight (5-W-30, I think) Mobil 1 in both of my gas burners, including the daughter's Sunbird school car. On 1/10/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I am fully aware of the great level of debate regarding oil brands. Dr. Booth had me convinced to switch and was going to but then I sold the diesel. So, here's my question. Is Mobil 1 worth it in a gas engine. I know that Mobil 1 is excellent at keeping soot in suspension and lasts longer without breakdown in the harsh environment of a diesel engine, but I have a few questions for my new (to me) purchase 1990 300SEL 122k miles. 1. Should I use Mobil 1? 2. Does it offer the benefits that it does for diesels? 3. What weight should I use? These engines have some issues with valve seals after high mileage. This car does not use/burn any oil in 3000 miles. Which makes me think two things, it will eventually need the seals or it may have already had them done. The original owner (bought it new sold it in 2003) had an extended warranty and evidently had a lot of work done, so it is possible it was already done. It had 76,000 when it was sold in 2003. Is there any oil or additive, or snake oil that can prolong that I can add or use to prolong the life of the valve seals? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Here comes an oil thread -- Sorry in advance it is a newtopic though its about a gasser
1. Should I use Mobil 1? Yes, if for no other reason than extended drain intervals. Don't use it to try to break in a new engine. It is just too slippery. 2. Does it offer the benefits that it does for diesels? Yeah. 3. What weight should I use? I use 5w40 in everything 'cept the bikes. Motorcycles with wet clutches need 15w-50. It has no friction modifiers. My 2ยข Rick Knoble '85 300 CD
Re: [MBZ] Here comes an oil thread
Hi Don, 1) Yes. 2) You betcha. 3) 5W-40 first choice, 15W-50 second choice, nothing else. 4) Uh - the answer to that is 'Mobil-1'. The 5W-40 is very similar to Delvac-1, and I believe both it and the 15W-50 have friction modifiers. Both would be fine for most motocycles with wet clutches, and I have used various M-1 weights in my bikes. However, for motorcycle use there is a special formula of Mobil-1 in various weights, that is designed for the MUCH different shearing loads seen in motorcycles, since the engine oil also lubes the sequential gearbox and clutch. In a nutshell, if the 'car' M-1 makes your bike act funny, use the 'bike' M-1. Most bikes aren't that picky though, despite some people's claim to the contrary. FWIW, my 300E uses about a quart every 1500 miles or less. I fill with M-1 5W-40, then when it needs oil, I top up with 30W dino. By the time it's due for a change, I probably still have more than half M-1 in the crankcase. Maybe I'll try new valve seals in that engine and see if it helps... :) -Dave M. -- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:22:50 -0600 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Here comes an oil thread -- Sorry in advance it is a new topic though its about a gasser Okay, I am fully aware of the great level of debate regarding oil brands. Dr. Booth had me convinced to switch and was going to but then I sold the diesel. So, here's my question. Is Mobil 1 worth it in a gas engine. I know that Mobil 1 is excellent at keeping soot in suspension and lasts longer without breakdown in the harsh environment of a diesel engine, but I have a few questions for my new (to me) purchase 1990 300SEL 122k miles. 1. Should I use Mobil 1? 2. Does it offer the benefits that it does for diesels? 3. What weight should I use? These engines have some issues with valve seals after high mileage. This car does not use/burn any oil in 3000 miles. Which makes me think two things, it will eventually need the seals or it may have already had them done. The original owner (bought it new sold it in 2003) had an extended warranty and evidently had a lot of work done, so it is possible it was already done. It had 76,000 when it was sold in 2003. Is there any oil or additive, or snake oil that can prolong that I can add or use to prolong the life of the valve seals?
