Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Jay lives in Newport   RI at least part of the year. I saw him in person at
the Concours event two years ago. He works with the  Audrain museum on
events.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 2:04 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> His YouTube show got picked up by a network, turned into a "real" slickly
> produced piece of crap.
>
> I liked watching Jay talk about a car and then take it for a ride. It was
> fun seeing his real enthusiasm for the car. As soon as it became his job it
> became way less interesting because it was scripted to "appeal to the
> masses". Unfortunately the masses are dumb and the script writers don't
> know anything about cars.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 01:45:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Reminds me that I used to watch his videos but for some reason they
> stopped showing up on my YouTube recommendations. Is he still posting new
> ones?
>
> Has he ever re-covered car seats in denim?
>
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2024, at 13:39, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > Two reasons why I wouldn’t buy it, despite liking Jay Leno.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jan 19, 2024, at 11:03 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I see the new issue of Linkage magazine has full page ad for Jay Leno's
> >> leather cleaner and leather conditioner. Says it is available at the
> evil
> >> W. walmart
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Those vids are still on Utube, a new comes out maybe once a week and 
they are still quite good.  He also does a shop walkaround occasionally 
to see what things are being worked on.


--FT

On 1/19/24 2:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

His YouTube show got picked up by a network, turned into a "real" slickly 
produced piece of crap.

I liked watching Jay talk about a car and then take it for a ride. It was fun seeing his 
real enthusiasm for the car. As soon as it became his job it became way less interesting 
because it was scripted to "appeal to the masses". Unfortunately the masses are 
dumb and the script writers don't know anything about cars.

-Curt


On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 01:45:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via 
Mercedes  wrote:





Reminds me that I used to watch his videos but for some reason they stopped 
showing up on my YouTube recommendations. Is he still posting new ones?

Has he ever re-covered car seats in denim?

On Fri, Jan 19, 2024, at 13:39, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Two reasons why I wouldn’t buy it, despite liking Jay Leno.

-D


On Jan 19, 2024, at 11:03 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
wrote:

I see the new issue of Linkage magazine has full page ad for Jay Leno's
leather cleaner and leather conditioner. Says it is available at the evil
W. walmart


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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I’m with you on that. I like his interest in a broad range of vehicles, but I 
don’t consider him someone who is qualified to be putting out his own products.

-D


> On Jan 19, 2024, at 2:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> His YouTube show got picked up by a network, turned into a "real" slickly 
> produced piece of crap.
> 
> I liked watching Jay talk about a car and then take it for a ride. It was fun 
> seeing his real enthusiasm for the car. As soon as it became his job it 
> became way less interesting because it was scripted to "appeal to the 
> masses". Unfortunately the masses are dumb and the script writers don't know 
> anything about cars.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 01:45:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Reminds me that I used to watch his videos but for some reason they stopped 
> showing up on my YouTube recommendations. Is he still posting new ones?
> 
> Has he ever re-covered car seats in denim?
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2024, at 13:39, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Two reasons why I wouldn’t buy it, despite liking Jay Leno.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Jan 19, 2024, at 11:03 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I see the new issue of Linkage magazine has full page ad for Jay Leno's
>>> leather cleaner and leather conditioner. Says it is available at the evil
>>> W. walmart
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

His YouTube show got picked up by a network, turned into a "real" slickly 
produced piece of crap.

I liked watching Jay talk about a car and then take it for a ride. It was fun 
seeing his real enthusiasm for the car. As soon as it became his job it became 
way less interesting because it was scripted to "appeal to the masses". 
Unfortunately the masses are dumb and the script writers don't know anything 
about cars.

-Curt


On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 01:45:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Reminds me that I used to watch his videos but for some reason they stopped 
showing up on my YouTube recommendations. Is he still posting new ones?

Has he ever re-covered car seats in denim?

On Fri, Jan 19, 2024, at 13:39, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Two reasons why I wouldn’t buy it, despite liking Jay Leno.
>
> -D
>
>> On Jan 19, 2024, at 11:03 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I see the new issue of Linkage magazine has full page ad for Jay Leno's
>> leather cleaner and leather conditioner. Says it is available at the evil
>> W. walmart
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Reminds me that I used to watch his videos but for some reason they stopped 
showing up on my YouTube recommendations. Is he still posting new ones?

Has he ever re-covered car seats in denim?

On Fri, Jan 19, 2024, at 13:39, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Two reasons why I wouldn’t buy it, despite liking Jay Leno.
>
> -D
>
>> On Jan 19, 2024, at 11:03 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I see the new issue of Linkage magazine has full page ad for Jay Leno's
>> leather cleaner and leather conditioner. Says it is available at the evil
>> W. walmart
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Read the instructions and go from there. The longer you can let the stuff soak 
in under hot conditions, the better. When it’s done, you’ll be concerned 
because the feel is weird. You can use the Prestine Clean to knock it down, or 
just let it flash off, which it will do over time.

-D

> On Jan 19, 2024, at 10:49 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A representative from the Island of Large Wimmen delivered my Leatherique at 
> 0500 hrs this morning. Lately, i’ve been receiving a lot of my Amazon 
> shipments at five in the morning. Having had MB Tex in all but one of my 
> vehicles, I’ve never had a chance to use this magic elixer. Is there anything 
> I need to know before attacking the seats?
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2024, at 11:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> They’re all pretty good (Leatherique, Griots, Zymöl) as the results are 
>> pretty much the same. Leatherique does require a bit more effort the first 
>> time if you do it right, the others offer instant gratification.
>> 
>> George (Leatherique) is still kicking, as far as I know. I used to talk to 
>> him regularly, but I haven’t done so in a couple of years.
>> 
>> When it comes to detailing, a lot of it comes down to personal preference. 
>> Whatever you’re the most comfortable using and it gets the results you want, 
>> go with it!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Jan 18, 2024, at 12:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been using Groit's Leather 3 in 1 product with some success. I have
>>> a Ford F350 with the King Ranch full leather interior, and with Arizona
>>> heat and sun, the leather takes a harsh beating, so it needs regular
>>> treatment.
>>> The Groit's product seems to work, but with Arizona sun, the leather gets
>>> baked quickly, so regular treatment is required.
>>> There may be better products, Groit's is available at local FLAPS, so my
>>> choice [for now].
>>> 
 On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:24 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 
 https://www.amazon.com/Leatherique-Leather-Rejuvenator-Prestine-Clean/dp/B072JR77H1/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=51514146650&hvadid=580737944631&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9023168&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9268194315777062363&hvtargid=kwd-13487106&hydadcr=19014_13382990&keywords=leatherique&qid=1705598615&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 18, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Is Leatherique still around? That was always what I saw mentioned on
 the list years back.
> 
> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 11:22, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> The seats in my W163 could use some love. They are by no means dry but
>>> they are not supple either. What’s the stuff smart guys use these days
>>> for returning leather to its original awesomeness?
>>> I’m guessing there is something for cleaning then something else for
>>> conditioning?
>>> 
>>> Replaced the antenna cover  yesterday while my landlord’s “guys” were
>>> replacing the sewer lateral out to the street. They hope to be done
>>> today. We’ve been displaced for three days thanks to them ripping out
>>> the water service as they began digging (thanks to the water company
>>> not sending out someone to blue stake it, and the guys got impatient).
>>> 
>>> I have assembled all of my paint correction supplies and tools, I have
>>> my new steam machine staged and ready and as soon as they install a new
>>> waterline, I’m ready to get busy and go full-Martha on that thing.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Two reasons why I wouldn’t buy it, despite liking Jay Leno.

-D

> On Jan 19, 2024, at 11:03 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I see the new issue of Linkage magazine has full page ad for Jay Leno's
> leather cleaner and leather conditioner. Says it is available at the evil
> W. walmart
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 12:35 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I like the products made by Zymol.  The car polish smells like a floral
>> bouquet.  The leather cleaner is very gentle yet effective.  Sold at
>> Autozone.
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 12:12 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Is Leatherique still around? That was always what I saw mentioned on the
>>> list years back.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 11:22, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
 The seats in my W163 could use some love. They are by no means dry but
 they are not supple either. What’s the stuff smart guys use these days
 for returning leather to its original awesomeness?
 I’m guessing there is something for cleaning then something else for
 conditioning?
 
 Replaced the antenna cover  yesterday while my landlord’s “guys” were
 replacing the sewer lateral out to the street. They hope to be done
 today. We’ve been displaced for three days thanks to them ripping out
 the water service as they began digging (thanks to the water company
 not sending out someone to blue stake it, and the guys got impatient).
 
 I have assembled all of my paint correction supplies and tools, I have
 my new steam machine staged and ready and as soon as they install a new
 waterline, I’m ready to get busy and go full-Martha on that thing.
 
 AZBob
 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I see the new issue of Linkage magazine has full page ad for Jay Leno's
leather cleaner and leather conditioner. Says it is available at the evil
W. walmart

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 12:35 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I like the products made by Zymol.  The car polish smells like a floral
> bouquet.  The leather cleaner is very gentle yet effective.  Sold at
> Autozone.
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 12:12 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Is Leatherique still around? That was always what I saw mentioned on the
> > list years back.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 11:22, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > > The seats in my W163 could use some love. They are by no means dry but
> > > they are not supple either. What’s the stuff smart guys use these days
> > > for returning leather to its original awesomeness?
> > > I’m guessing there is something for cleaning then something else for
> > > conditioning?
> > >
> > > Replaced the antenna cover  yesterday while my landlord’s “guys” were
> > > replacing the sewer lateral out to the street. They hope to be done
> > > today. We’ve been displaced for three days thanks to them ripping out
> > > the water service as they began digging (thanks to the water company
> > > not sending out someone to blue stake it, and the guys got impatient).
> > >
> > > I have assembled all of my paint correction supplies and tools, I have
> > > my new steam machine staged and ready and as soon as they install a new
> > > waterline, I’m ready to get busy and go full-Martha on that thing.
> > >
> > > AZBob
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

A representative from the Island of Large Wimmen delivered my Leatherique at 
0500 hrs this morning. Lately, i’ve been receiving a lot of my Amazon shipments 
at five in the morning. Having had MB Tex in all but one of my vehicles, I’ve 
never had a chance to use this magic elixer. Is there anything I need to know 
before attacking the seats? 

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 18, 2024, at 11:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> They’re all pretty good (Leatherique, Griots, Zymöl) as the results are 
> pretty much the same. Leatherique does require a bit more effort the first 
> time if you do it right, the others offer instant gratification.
> 
> George (Leatherique) is still kicking, as far as I know. I used to talk to 
> him regularly, but I haven’t done so in a couple of years.
> 
> When it comes to detailing, a lot of it comes down to personal preference. 
> Whatever you’re the most comfortable using and it gets the results you want, 
> go with it!
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2024, at 12:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have been using Groit's Leather 3 in 1 product with some success. I have
>> a Ford F350 with the King Ranch full leather interior, and with Arizona
>> heat and sun, the leather takes a harsh beating, so it needs regular
>> treatment.
>> The Groit's product seems to work, but with Arizona sun, the leather gets
>> baked quickly, so regular treatment is required.
>> There may be better products, Groit's is available at local FLAPS, so my
>> choice [for now].
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:24 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Leatherique-Leather-Rejuvenator-Prestine-Clean/dp/B072JR77H1/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=51514146650&hvadid=580737944631&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9023168&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9268194315777062363&hvtargid=kwd-13487106&hydadcr=19014_13382990&keywords=leatherique&qid=1705598615&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 18, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Is Leatherique still around? That was always what I saw mentioned on
>>> the list years back.
 
 
>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 11:22, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> The seats in my W163 could use some love. They are by no means dry but
>> they are not supple either. What’s the stuff smart guys use these days
>> for returning leather to its original awesomeness?
>> I’m guessing there is something for cleaning then something else for
>> conditioning?
>> 
>> Replaced the antenna cover  yesterday while my landlord’s “guys” were
>> replacing the sewer lateral out to the street. They hope to be done
>> today. We’ve been displaced for three days thanks to them ripping out
>> the water service as they began digging (thanks to the water company
>> not sending out someone to blue stake it, and the guys got impatient).
>> 
>> I have assembled all of my paint correction supplies and tools, I have
>> my new steam machine staged and ready and as soon as they install a new
>> waterline, I’m ready to get busy and go full-Martha on that thing.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

They’re all pretty good (Leatherique, Griots, Zymöl) as the results are pretty 
much the same. Leatherique does require a bit more effort the first time if you 
do it right, the others offer instant gratification.

George (Leatherique) is still kicking, as far as I know. I used to talk to him 
regularly, but I haven’t done so in a couple of years.

When it comes to detailing, a lot of it comes down to personal preference. 
Whatever you’re the most comfortable using and it gets the results you want, go 
with it!

-D

> On Jan 18, 2024, at 12:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have been using Groit's Leather 3 in 1 product with some success. I have
> a Ford F350 with the King Ranch full leather interior, and with Arizona
> heat and sun, the leather takes a harsh beating, so it needs regular
> treatment.
> The Groit's product seems to work, but with Arizona sun, the leather gets
> baked quickly, so regular treatment is required.
> There may be better products, Groit's is available at local FLAPS, so my
> choice [for now].
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:24 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Leatherique-Leather-Rejuvenator-Prestine-Clean/dp/B072JR77H1/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=51514146650&hvadid=580737944631&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9023168&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9268194315777062363&hvtargid=kwd-13487106&hydadcr=19014_13382990&keywords=leatherique&qid=1705598615&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1
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>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is Leatherique still around? That was always what I saw mentioned on
>> the list years back.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 11:22, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
 The seats in my W163 could use some love. They are by no means dry but
 they are not supple either. What’s the stuff smart guys use these days
 for returning leather to its original awesomeness?
 I’m guessing there is something for cleaning then something else for
 conditioning?
 
 Replaced the antenna cover  yesterday while my landlord’s “guys” were
 replacing the sewer lateral out to the street. They hope to be done
 today. We’ve been displaced for three days thanks to them ripping out
 the water service as they began digging (thanks to the water company
 not sending out someone to blue stake it, and the guys got impatient).
 
 I have assembled all of my paint correction supplies and tools, I have
 my new steam machine staged and ready and as soon as they install a new
 waterline, I’m ready to get busy and go full-Martha on that thing.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I have been using Groit's Leather 3 in 1 product with some success. I have
a Ford F350 with the King Ranch full leather interior, and with Arizona
heat and sun, the leather takes a harsh beating, so it needs regular
treatment.
The Groit's product seems to work, but with Arizona sun, the leather gets
baked quickly, so regular treatment is required.
There may be better products, Groit's is available at local FLAPS, so my
choice [for now].

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>
> https://www.amazon.com/Leatherique-Leather-Rejuvenator-Prestine-Clean/dp/B072JR77H1/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=51514146650&hvadid=580737944631&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9023168&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9268194315777062363&hvtargid=kwd-13487106&hydadcr=19014_13382990&keywords=leatherique&qid=1705598615&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1
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> > On Jan 18, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is Leatherique still around? That was always what I saw mentioned on
> the list years back.
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 11:22, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> >> The seats in my W163 could use some love. They are by no means dry but
> >> they are not supple either. What’s the stuff smart guys use these days
> >> for returning leather to its original awesomeness?
> >> I’m guessing there is something for cleaning then something else for
> >> conditioning?
> >>
> >> Replaced the antenna cover  yesterday while my landlord’s “guys” were
> >> replacing the sewer lateral out to the street. They hope to be done
> >> today. We’ve been displaced for three days thanks to them ripping out
> >> the water service as they began digging (thanks to the water company
> >> not sending out someone to blue stake it, and the guys got impatient).
> >>
> >> I have assembled all of my paint correction supplies and tools, I have
> >> my new steam machine staged and ready and as soon as they install a new
> >> waterline, I’m ready to get busy and go full-Martha on that thing.
> >>
> >> AZBob
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I like the products made by Zymol.  The car polish smells like a floral
bouquet.  The leather cleaner is very gentle yet effective.  Sold at
Autozone.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 12:12 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Is Leatherique still around? That was always what I saw mentioned on the
> list years back.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 11:22, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > The seats in my W163 could use some love. They are by no means dry but
> > they are not supple either. What’s the stuff smart guys use these days
> > for returning leather to its original awesomeness?
> > I’m guessing there is something for cleaning then something else for
> > conditioning?
> >
> > Replaced the antenna cover  yesterday while my landlord’s “guys” were
> > replacing the sewer lateral out to the street. They hope to be done
> > today. We’ve been displaced for three days thanks to them ripping out
> > the water service as they began digging (thanks to the water company
> > not sending out someone to blue stake it, and the guys got impatient).
> >
> > I have assembled all of my paint correction supplies and tools, I have
> > my new steam machine staged and ready and as soon as they install a new
> > waterline, I’m ready to get busy and go full-Martha on that thing.
> >
> > AZBob
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

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https://www.amazon.com/Leatherique-Leather-Rejuvenator-Prestine-Clean/dp/B072JR77H1/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=51514146650&hvadid=580737944631&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9023168&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9268194315777062363&hvtargid=kwd-13487106&hydadcr=19014_13382990&keywords=leatherique&qid=1705598615&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1
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> On Jan 18, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is Leatherique still around? That was always what I saw mentioned on the 
> list years back.
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 11:22, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> The seats in my W163 could use some love. They are by no means dry but
>> they are not supple either. What’s the stuff smart guys use these days
>> for returning leather to its original awesomeness?
>> I’m guessing there is something for cleaning then something else for
>> conditioning?
>> 
>> Replaced the antenna cover  yesterday while my landlord’s “guys” were
>> replacing the sewer lateral out to the street. They hope to be done
>> today. We’ve been displaced for three days thanks to them ripping out
>> the water service as they began digging (thanks to the water company
>> not sending out someone to blue stake it, and the guys got impatient).
>> 
>> I have assembled all of my paint correction supplies and tools, I have
>> my new steam machine staged and ready and as soon as they install a new
>> waterline, I’m ready to get busy and go full-Martha on that thing.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Is Leatherique still around? That was always what I saw mentioned on the list 
years back.


On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 11:22, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> The seats in my W163 could use some love. They are by no means dry but 
> they are not supple either. What’s the stuff smart guys use these days 
> for returning leather to its original awesomeness? 
> I’m guessing there is something for cleaning then something else for 
> conditioning?
>
> Replaced the antenna cover  yesterday while my landlord’s “guys” were 
> replacing the sewer lateral out to the street. They hope to be done 
> today. We’ve been displaced for three days thanks to them ripping out 
> the water service as they began digging (thanks to the water company 
> not sending out someone to blue stake it, and the guys got impatient). 
>
> I have assembled all of my paint correction supplies and tools, I have 
> my new steam machine staged and ready and as soon as they install a new 
> waterline, I’m ready to get busy and go full-Martha on that thing.
>
> AZBob
>
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

As far as I know Leatherique is still the go to for leather treatment, unless 
poos has other ideas. 

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> On Jan 18, 2024, at 10:23 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The seats in my W163 could use some love. They are by no means dry but they 
> are not supple either. What’s the stuff smart guys use these days for 
> returning leather to its original awesomeness?
> I’m guessing there is something for cleaning then something else for 
> conditioning?
> 
> Replaced the antenna cover  yesterday while my landlord’s “guys” were 
> replacing the sewer lateral out to the street. They hope to be done today. 
> We’ve been displaced for three days thanks to them ripping out the water 
> service as they began digging (thanks to the water company not sending out 
> someone to blue stake it, and the guys got impatient).
> 
> I have assembled all of my paint correction supplies and tools, I have my new 
> steam machine staged and ready and as soon as they install a new waterline, 
> I’m ready to get busy and go full-Martha on that thing.
> 
> AZBob
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

that is what i have used on leather seats.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 11:39 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> > What’s the stuff smart guys use these days for returning leather to its
> original awesomeness?
>
> Leatherique?
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> What’s the stuff smart guys use these days for returning leather to its 
> original awesomeness? 

Leatherique?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Leather replacement seat covers

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I’m not criticizing, by any means, just pointing out that they’re clearly 
offshore. Please be sure to let the list know when they arrive and what your 
observations are as far as the fit/finish and quality. We really need some 
reasonably priced alternatives for the W211 and similar vintage cars that have 
the perforated panels that make them so easy to rip.

-D

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:47 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I don't know where they are located. But that is still better English 
> than half of what people write in FBM ads.
> 
> They were responsive to my inquiries, and sent me a color swatch quickly. The 
> seat covers took a few weeks but assuming they make them to order that's 
> probably not unreasonable.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2023, at 10:29, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Clearly not local folks based on the grammar and diction on their website:
>> 
>> "We won't shut down during current epidemic.You can purchase products 
>> anytime. If you need help finding the right product or have a question 
>> on your order. Please click "Contact us”.”
>> 
>> But if their stuff is good, who cares, right?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2023, at 1:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I ordered a set last spring. They are decent, not an exact OE match but 
>>> pretty close.
>>> 
>>> They will send you a free set of swatches to match color.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023, at 14:48, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
 I was told these are good quality 
 
 E.g., W211
 
 https://www.lseat.com/products/2003-2009-mercedes-w211-e320-e350-e550-custom-real-leather-seat-covers-front.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather replacement seat covers

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yeah I don't know where they are located. But that is still better English than 
half of what people write in FBM ads.

They were responsive to my inquiries, and sent me a color swatch quickly. The 
seat covers took a few weeks but assuming they make them to order that's 
probably not unreasonable.



On Tue, Oct 31, 2023, at 10:29, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Clearly not local folks based on the grammar and diction on their website:
>
> "We won't shut down during current epidemic.You can purchase products 
> anytime. If you need help finding the right product or have a question 
> on your order. Please click "Contact us”.”
>
> But if their stuff is good, who cares, right?
>
> -D
>
>> On Oct 30, 2023, at 1:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I ordered a set last spring. They are decent, not an exact OE match but 
>> pretty close.
>> 
>> They will send you a free set of swatches to match color.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023, at 14:48, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I was told these are good quality 
>>> 
>>> E.g., W211
>>> 
>>> https://www.lseat.com/products/2003-2009-mercedes-w211-e320-e350-e550-custom-real-leather-seat-covers-front.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather replacement seat covers

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Clearly not local folks based on the grammar and diction on their website:

"We won't shut down during current epidemic.You can purchase products anytime. 
If you need help finding the right product or have a question on your order. 
Please click "Contact us”.”

But if their stuff is good, who cares, right?

-D

> On Oct 30, 2023, at 1:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I ordered a set last spring. They are decent, not an exact OE match but 
> pretty close.
> 
> They will send you a free set of swatches to match color.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023, at 14:48, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> I was told these are good quality 
>> 
>> E.g., W211
>> 
>> https://www.lseat.com/products/2003-2009-mercedes-w211-e320-e350-e550-custom-real-leather-seat-covers-front.html
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Leather replacement seat covers

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I ordered a set last spring. They are decent, not an exact OE match but pretty 
close.

They will send you a free set of swatches to match color.


On Mon, Oct 30, 2023, at 14:48, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> I was told these are good quality 
>
> E.g., W211
>
> https://www.lseat.com/products/2003-2009-mercedes-w211-e320-e350-e550-custom-real-leather-seat-covers-front.html
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Re: [MBZ] Leather replacement seat covers

[G Mann via Mercedes]

With a cost of $174.50 per seat, I would be very hard pressed to buy color
matched full skins, deliver them to a better than decent upholstery shop,
have them make a set of patterns, then make and install seat covers..
I would call this a fair deal.
Also, noted. They state they can make and supply other model Mercedes cover
sets.. worth adding to my bucket list, I think.. Even if pricing is more
for "one off" set for a different model..
GM...

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> I was told these are good quality
>
> E.g., W211
>
>
> https://www.lseat.com/products/2003-2009-mercedes-w211-e320-e350-e550-custom-real-leather-seat-covers-front.html
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Re: [MBZ] Leather is in emaculant condition - 1993 500SEL - 94k miles - $9, 500

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I had Tarek’s old 1995 S500 coupe, and the only issue i had with it was the 
evaporator was starting to leak before it got totaled. I used some sealant and 
it was holding pressure, and did so for about 6-8 months before it was 
destroyed. I suspect it would have gotten worse over time, however.

-D

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> I have only owned pre facelift 140s and not had any issues. 
> 
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>> On Jul 14, 2022, at 10:26 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> W140s are like R129s. Avoid the “pre-facelift” models, which would be from 
>> 1991-1995. Why?
>> 
>> Wiring harness issues (likely resolved by now)
>> AC evaporator issues
>> Fuel systems are not as refined
>> Facelift have better (6 speed) transmissions
>> 
>> 1996 and later are good, and are pretty bulletproof. One of my former W140s 
>> is still on the road at over 325k with no major repairs.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2022, at 8:09 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've kind of fancied a W140. I think they just look good, especially in 
>>> black. I presume they would be easier to take care of in a DIY fashion than 
>>> a newer model. Do they have self-destructive wiring issues? I can never 
>>> remember which years had that.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wed, Jul 13, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
 Aside from the illiterate seller that does look like a very nice car. 
 Whether it’s worth $9.5k is up to an interested buyer. When you can buy 
 a 15yr newer S550 for near that it would be for someone who is really 
 into 140s
 
 --FT
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> 
> Ad has more pics now. Does look pretty nice.
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> This Benz has been babies inside(must be the big back seat!)
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 7/12/22 1:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> One pic. At least we know the hood and doors open.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather is in emaculant condition - 1993 500SEL - 94k miles - $9, 500

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have only owned pre facelift 140s and not had any issues. 

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> On Jul 14, 2022, at 10:26 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> W140s are like R129s. Avoid the “pre-facelift” models, which would be from 
> 1991-1995. Why?
> 
> Wiring harness issues (likely resolved by now)
> AC evaporator issues
> Fuel systems are not as refined
> Facelift have better (6 speed) transmissions
> 
> 1996 and later are good, and are pretty bulletproof. One of my former W140s 
> is still on the road at over 325k with no major repairs.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2022, at 8:09 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I've kind of fancied a W140. I think they just look good, especially in 
>> black. I presume they would be easier to take care of in a DIY fashion than 
>> a newer model. Do they have self-destructive wiring issues? I can never 
>> remember which years had that.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Aside from the illiterate seller that does look like a very nice car. 
>>> Whether it’s worth $9.5k is up to an interested buyer. When you can buy 
>>> a 15yr newer S550 for near that it would be for someone who is really 
>>> into 140s
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On Jul 13, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Ad has more pics now. Does look pretty nice.
 
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> This Benz has been babies inside(must be the big back seat!)
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 7/12/22 1:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> One pic. At least we know the hood and doors open.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather is in emaculant condition - 1993 500SEL - 94k miles - $9, 500

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Maybe, I think 94 and 95 but might have been earlier. Look up when the bad 
years were. I know 95 is… 🤪

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> On Jul 14, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> 
> I've kind of fancied a W140. I think they just look good, especially in 
> black. I presume they would be easier to take care of in a DIY fashion than a 
> newer model. Do they have self-destructive wiring issues? I can never 
> remember which years had that.
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> Aside from the illiterate seller that does look like a very nice car. 
>> Whether it’s worth $9.5k is up to an interested buyer. When you can buy 
>> a 15yr newer S550 for near that it would be for someone who is really 
>> into 140s
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Jul 13, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ad has more pics now. Does look pretty nice.
>>> 
 On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
 This Benz has been babies inside(must be the big back seat!)
 
 --FT
 
> On 7/12/22 1:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> One pic. At least we know the hood and doors open.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather is in emaculant condition - 1993 500SEL - 94k miles - $9, 500

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

W140s are like R129s. Avoid the “pre-facelift” models, which would be from 
1991-1995. Why?

Wiring harness issues (likely resolved by now)
AC evaporator issues
Fuel systems are not as refined
Facelift have better (6 speed) transmissions

1996 and later are good, and are pretty bulletproof. One of my former W140s is 
still on the road at over 325k with no major repairs.

-D

> On Jul 14, 2022, at 8:09 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've kind of fancied a W140. I think they just look good, especially in 
> black. I presume they would be easier to take care of in a DIY fashion than a 
> newer model. Do they have self-destructive wiring issues? I can never 
> remember which years had that.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> Aside from the illiterate seller that does look like a very nice car. 
>> Whether it’s worth $9.5k is up to an interested buyer. When you can buy 
>> a 15yr newer S550 for near that it would be for someone who is really 
>> into 140s
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ad has more pics now. Does look pretty nice.
>>> 
 On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
 This Benz has been babies inside(must be the big back seat!)
 
 --FT
 
> On 7/12/22 1:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather is in emaculant condition - 1993 500SEL - 94k miles - $9, 500

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I've kind of fancied a W140. I think they just look good, especially in black. 
I presume they would be easier to take care of in a DIY fashion than a newer 
model. Do they have self-destructive wiring issues? I can never remember which 
years had that.


On Wed, Jul 13, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Aside from the illiterate seller that does look like a very nice car. 
> Whether it’s worth $9.5k is up to an interested buyer. When you can buy 
> a 15yr newer S550 for near that it would be for someone who is really 
> into 140s
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Jul 13, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ad has more pics now. Does look pretty nice.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> This Benz has been babies inside(must be the big back seat!)
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 7/12/22 1:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
 One pic. At least we know the hood and doors open.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather is in emaculant condition - 1993 500SEL - 94k miles - $9, 500

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Aside from the illiterate seller that does look like a very nice car. Whether 
it’s worth $9.5k is up to an interested buyer. When you can buy a 15yr newer 
S550 for near that it would be for someone who is really into 140s

--FT
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> On Jul 13, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> 
> Ad has more pics now. Does look pretty nice.
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> This Benz has been babies inside(must be the big back seat!)
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 7/12/22 1:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
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>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather is in emaculant condition - 1993 500SEL - 94k miles - $9, 500

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Ad has more pics now. Does look pretty nice.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> This Benz has been babies inside(must be the big back seat!)
>
> --FT
>
> On 7/12/22 1:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Leather is in emaculant condition - 1993 500SEL - 94k miles - $9, 500

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This Benz has been babies inside(must be the big back seat!)

--FT

On 7/12/22 1:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

One pic. At least we know the hood and doors open.

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Re: [MBZ] Leather seat restoration

[OK Don via Mercedes]

What? You didn't use Leatherique I thought that was the ONLY thing this
MB group used on leather.

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> These results are pretty amazing.  He spent a lot of time undoing
> previous "restoration" so starting from new would probably take a lot
> less time.
>
> Two different products.  The black stuff looked pretty easy, that would
> probably do some good touchup on the SL600 that has a bit of wear on the
> seats and door coverings.  I've seen this Colourlock stuff before, the
> results look really good.  They make it in colors to match Benz codes
> too so you can get a good match.  I'm going to get some for the steering
> wheels on the S550 and E500.
>
> Discount codes for the Clyde stuff
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Re: [MBZ] Leather seat restoration

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I used connolly leather spray dye when restoring the green interior (dash,
seats, and door panels) on my long gone '69 280SE 3.5 coupe.  The results
were quite presentable, although IIRC it took forever to dry past the
sticky phase.

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> These results are pretty amazing.  He spent a lot of time undoing
> previous "restoration" so starting from new would probably take a lot
> less time.
>
> Two different products.  The black stuff looked pretty easy, that would
> probably do some good touchup on the SL600 that has a bit of wear on the
> seats and door coverings.  I've seen this Colourlock stuff before, the
> results look really good.  They make it in colors to match Benz codes
> too so you can get a good match.  I'm going to get some for the steering
> wheels on the S550 and E500.
>
> Discount codes for the Clyde stuff
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFn_cPBu-2Q
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Re: [MBZ] leather

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I use leatherique on my 211 &  my wife's SAAB with good results.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Dec 29, 2017 6:52 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
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> Naw, you should use Dickarde's bootleg Canuklederick!
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> December 29, 2017 at 5:19 PM
>> Is Leatherique still the stuff to use for leather?
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Re: [MBZ] leather

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Naw, you should use Dickarde's bootleg Canuklederick!


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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Is Leatherique still the stuff to use for leather?



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Re: [MBZ] leather

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I just need to clean and condition leather before it gets brittle and 
cracks.  Or is there a better or decent cheaper alternative?



On 12/29/2017 5:37 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Probably. What are you looking to do?

-D


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Is Leatherique still the stuff to use for leather?


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Re: [MBZ] leather

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Probably. What are you looking to do?

-D

> On Dec 29, 2017, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Is Leatherique still the stuff to use for leather?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Leather shop/repair

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Nearly 40 years ago, I did a lot of business at a foreign car specialty
parts house that had a "lifetime warranty". The parts were always a bit
more expensive and the line I always got from the owner was "well, it has a
lifetime warranty"..

One day, after laying a couple thousand dollars on the counter I ask him..
"Exactly what does it mean when you say 'Lifetime Warranty' " ... His
reply, with a straight face and a stern look, no hesitation, was :

" If you ever bring it back, I'll kill you" . We laughed.. but I've
never forgotten it because it seems to be the true meaning behind the
"warranty" clause.



On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Those bast*rds.  Just like the Sears Craftsman lifetime warranty.
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > On October 4, 2015 at 10:07 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I was told by my SWMBO that Coach has a lifetime warranty.  Send it to
> > the
> > > fctory and they will repair it free of charge.
> >
> > Was probably lifetime when Wilton bought his wife's. Rumor has it that
> > lifetime
> > is ten years or so.
> > Looks like it's a year on new purses now.
> >
> > http://www.coach.com/product-care.html
> >
> > http://ragobrothers.com/coach-handbag-repair.html
> >
> >
> >
> http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/thought-coach-had-a-lifetime-warranty-516916.html
> >
> >
> >
> http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/does-coach-repair-bags-if-we-dont-have-733387.html
> >
> >
> >
> http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/repair-policy-i-have-an-old-bag-218992.html
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Re: [MBZ] Leather shop/repair

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Those bast*rds.  Just like the Sears Craftsman lifetime warranty.

On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On October 4, 2015 at 10:07 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I was told by my SWMBO that Coach has a lifetime warranty.  Send it to
> the
> > fctory and they will repair it free of charge.
>
> Was probably lifetime when Wilton bought his wife's. Rumor has it that
> lifetime
> is ten years or so.
> Looks like it's a year on new purses now.
>
> http://www.coach.com/product-care.html
>
> http://ragobrothers.com/coach-handbag-repair.html
>
>
> http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/thought-coach-had-a-lifetime-warranty-516916.html
>
>
> http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/does-coach-repair-bags-if-we-dont-have-733387.html
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Re: [MBZ] Leather shop/repair

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 4, 2015 at 10:07 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was told by my SWMBO that Coach has a lifetime warranty.  Send it to the
> fctory and they will repair it free of charge.

Was probably lifetime when Wilton bought his wife's. Rumor has it that lifetime
is ten years or so. 
Looks like it's a year on new purses now. 

http://www.coach.com/product-care.html

http://ragobrothers.com/coach-handbag-repair.html

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/thought-coach-had-a-lifetime-warranty-516916.html

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/does-coach-repair-bags-if-we-dont-have-733387.html

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/repair-policy-i-have-an-old-bag-218992.html

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Re: [MBZ] Leather shop/repair

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I was told by my SWMBO that Coach has a lifetime warranty.  Send it to the
fctory and they will repair it free of charge.

Incidentally, my Steiner binoculars went south and the company (in Fort
Collins) repaired it for free.

On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:35 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Gucci has several repair shops in the U.S. Their average charge for
> repairs is around $100 last I heard. Don't know if they repair anything
> besides Gucci.
> Gerry
>
> Curly McLain wrote:
>
> > Boyers Boots
> >
> > 420 N 36th St, Quincy, IL 62301
> > (217) 223-9709
> >
> > Full service repair and some custom leatherwork.  I used to take
> > boots there, some 300 miles each way for me.  Good folks.  Family run.
> >
> > Bells in Beatrice, NE is out of business, or i'd recommend that too.
> >
> > Probably is a good shop in Red Wing MN, but since I've only been
> > there on Sundays, I don't know for sure.
> >
> > I'd bet Max can find ya a good shop in Italia too.  But that means a
> > long trip...hard to do over the phone.
> >
> >
> > >BTW, mention of SWMBO's purse reminds me:  My SWMBO has a Coach
> > >leather purse purchased in 1972 in prep for her 2-to-3-week visit
> > >with me in Thailand while I was flying BUFF missions to Vietnam.
> > >The trim around the top is getting slightly worn, and she asked me
> > >yesterday to try to find where she might get some repairs done to
> > >it.  It's her favorite purse, and she'd like to keep it "on the
> > >road."  It still looks good; just needs some additional TLC around
> > >tope edge, much like our MB's.
> > >
> > >I checked Coach site and found lots of em at $495 ea. (paid $40 in
> > >'72) but no comment about repairs; did get a customer care # she'll
> > >try tomorrow.
> > >
> > >Anybody know good leather repair shop for such repairs, in case
> > >Coach can't, or won't, handle it?
> > >
> > >Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Leather shop/repair

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Gucci has several repair shops in the U.S. Their average charge for repairs is 
around $100 last I heard. Don't know if they repair anything besides Gucci.
Gerry

Curly McLain wrote:

> Boyers Boots
> 
> 420 N 36th St, Quincy, IL 62301
> (217) 223-9709
> 
> Full service repair and some custom leatherwork.  I used to take 
> boots there, some 300 miles each way for me.  Good folks.  Family run.
> 
> Bells in Beatrice, NE is out of business, or i'd recommend that too.
> 
> Probably is a good shop in Red Wing MN, but since I've only been 
> there on Sundays, I don't know for sure.
> 
> I'd bet Max can find ya a good shop in Italia too.  But that means a 
> long trip...hard to do over the phone.
> 
> 
> >BTW, mention of SWMBO's purse reminds me:  My SWMBO has a Coach 
> >leather purse purchased in 1972 in prep for her 2-to-3-week visit 
> >with me in Thailand while I was flying BUFF missions to Vietnam. 
> >The trim around the top is getting slightly worn, and she asked me 
> >yesterday to try to find where she might get some repairs done to 
> >it.  It's her favorite purse, and she'd like to keep it "on the 
> >road."  It still looks good; just needs some additional TLC around 
> >tope edge, much like our MB's.
> >
> >I checked Coach site and found lots of em at $495 ea. (paid $40 in 
> >'72) but no comment about repairs; did get a customer care # she'll 
> >try tomorrow.
> >
> >Anybody know good leather repair shop for such repairs, in case 
> >Coach can't, or won't, handle it?
> >
> >Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Leather shop/repair

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Thnks.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 2:32 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Leather shop/repair



Boyers Boots

420 N 36th St, Quincy, IL 62301
(217) 223-9709

Full service repair and some custom leatherwork.  I used to take 
boots there, some 300 miles each way for me.  Good folks.  Family run.


Bells in Beatrice, NE is out of business, or i'd recommend that too.

Probably is a good shop in Red Wing MN, but since I've only been 
there on Sundays, I don't know for sure.


I'd bet Max can find ya a good shop in Italia too.  But that means a 
long trip...hard to do over the phone.



BTW, mention of SWMBO's purse reminds me:  My SWMBO has a Coach 
leather purse purchased in 1972 in prep for her 2-to-3-week visit 
with me in Thailand while I was flying BUFF missions to Vietnam. 
The trim around the top is getting slightly worn, and she asked me 
yesterday to try to find where she might get some repairs done to 
it.  It's her favorite purse, and she'd like to keep it "on the 
road."  It still looks good; just needs some additional TLC around 
tope edge, much like our MB's.


I checked Coach site and found lots of em at $495 ea. (paid $40 in 
'72) but no comment about repairs; did get a customer care # she'll 
try tomorrow.


Anybody know good leather repair shop for such repairs, in case 
Coach can't, or won't, handle it?


Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Leather, Neatsfeet etc.

[LarryT]

"Mountain Man" said << I am still laughing.>>

glad I brightened your day ;-)

Larry

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leather, Neatsfeet etc.


LarryT wrote:
The truly evil are those who collect mothballs.  I always wondered how 
they

keep their little legs open.


Okay - I am still laughing.
I did not read this before - awesome imagery.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Leather, Neatsfeet etc.

[Mountain Man]

LarryT wrote:
> The truly evil are those who collect mothballs.  I always wondered how they
> keep their little legs open.

Okay - I am still laughing.
I did not read this before - awesome imagery.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Leather, Neatsfeet etc.

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:33:13 -0500 "LarryT"  wrote:

> Rick wrote <<>>
> 
> The truly evil are those who collect mothballs.  I always wondered how
> they keep their little legs open.

Huh?


> Of course, they are apparently pretty large moths.

Yes, indeed! When I was a grad student, Shirley and I checked into a motel
in the west-Texas town of Alpine to be greeted by a moth that was about 4
inches long and had a wingspan of about 6 inches. The room was dimly lit
and I thought it was a humming bird at first.


> Anyone ever witness this?

Witness what?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] LEATHER SEAT MAINT QUESTION

[E M]

I use Eagle One leather care, and it's done a great job for me over the
years.  I've never really had to use a product to bring back leather, just
maintain it, so not sure how it would be and bringing something that's wore
back.  I've used neats foot before, I think my Lexol or something, but never
cared for it.  I found it made dark leather spot easy if it got any water on
it.  Just my experience.

Ed
300E, with plastic seats. ;-)

On 8 February 2010 02:13, Redghost  wrote:

> Take a look at Cadillac boot and shoe care.  I find it is superb at keeping
> leather items in top condition.  Does not do miracles, but does keep it good
> as when first applied.  Best to give the item a coat when brand new, or as
> close as possible and it remains looking that good.
>
> clay
>
> On Feb 7, 2010, at 6:51 PM, P. Prud'homme wrote:
>
>  I have been using Neatsfoot oil, getting it from Farm&Fleet in fact. But,
>> after reading more about it, including in the maintenance of riding leather
>> boots. it appears that most formulas of Neatsfoot oil contain thinning
>> agents like kerosene. That's disappointing.
>> --PT, '81 300D
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:04:30 -0600
>> From: Dan Weeks 
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Subject: [MBZ] LEATHER SEAT MAINT QUESTION
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>
>> THe 28 year old leather seats in my 300SD are in pretty good shape but
>> are beginning to dry out even with annual leatherique applications.
>>
>> The problem is, the finish on the top of the leather keeps the
>> leatherique from penetrating, except in cracks and wear spots.
>>
>> What seems to work very well is applying neat's foot oil to the
>> unfinished back sides of the leather, which I've done with great
>> results indeed to the top of the rear seat, and the skirts of both
>> front and rear seats. THese areas are now very supple, even though
>> the seatback especially had gotten very hard and brittle. The leather
>> there soaked up a huge amount of oil--three heavy brush applications.
>> I'd now like to do the same to the backrests and seats themselves, but
>> don't know how to get at them as the padding is in the way.  Has
>> anyone ever done this? Can the padding be removed and replaced? Or
>> would it all have to be resewn, which I'm reluctant to do for fear of
>> further damaging the leather?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Dan
>> 82 300SD, 325k miles
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Leather, Neatsfeet etc.

[LarryT]

Rick wrote <<>>

The truly evil are those who collect mothballs.  I always wondered how they 
keep their little legs open.   Of course, they are apparently pretty large 
moths.   Anyone ever witness this?


LarryT
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 51, Issue 64


You are evil, killing all those neats.

--R

Dan Weeks wrote:


On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:51 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:


I have been using Neatsfoot oil, getting it from Farm&Fleet in fact.
[SNIP] 



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Re: [MBZ] LEATHER SEAT MAINT QUESTION

[Redghost]

Take a look at Cadillac boot and shoe care.  I find it is superb at  
keeping leather items in top condition.  Does not do miracles, but  
does keep it good as when first applied.  Best to give the item a coat  
when brand new, or as close as possible and it remains looking that  
good.


clay

On Feb 7, 2010, at 6:51 PM, P. Prud'homme wrote:

I have been using Neatsfoot oil, getting it from Farm&Fleet in fact.  
But, after reading more about it, including in the maintenance of  
riding leather boots. it appears that most formulas of Neatsfoot oil  
contain thinning agents like kerosene. That's disappointing.

--PT, '81 300D

Message: 3
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:04:30 -0600
From: Dan Weeks 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] LEATHER SEAT MAINT QUESTION
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

THe 28 year old leather seats in my 300SD are in pretty good shape but
are beginning to dry out even with annual leatherique applications.

The problem is, the finish on the top of the leather keeps the
leatherique from penetrating, except in cracks and wear spots.

What seems to work very well is applying neat's foot oil to the
unfinished back sides of the leather, which I've done with great
results indeed to the top of the rear seat, and the skirts of both
front and rear seats. THese areas are now very supple, even though
the seatback especially had gotten very hard and brittle. The leather
there soaked up a huge amount of oil--three heavy brush applications.
I'd now like to do the same to the backrests and seats themselves, but
don't know how to get at them as the padding is in the way.  Has
anyone ever done this? Can the padding be removed and replaced? Or
would it all have to be resewn, which I'm reluctant to do for fear of
further damaging the leather?

Thanks!

Dan
82 300SD, 325k miles




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Re: [MBZ] LEATHER SEAT MAINT

[Dan Weeks]

On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:51 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:


Someone else may know better, but my recollection is that the bottoms
and backs have padding and a backing sewn together to make the "roll
and tuck" effect.  If you take the seat covers off, you still would
not be able to reach the backside of the leather easily.I would
guess, as you suggest, that taking them apart and re-sewing would
weaken the leather and lead to rips.


YOU ARE CORRECT--I HAVE TAKEN MINE APART, AND THAT'S WHAT I SAW, HENCE  
MY QUESTION.


It might be easier to sand the surface, treat then refinish with the
leatherique stuff.


INTERESTING IDEA, BUT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF WORK.


or find good seats in the right color and replace as needed
or put sheepskins over what you have.
or buy mb-tex covers as needed.

One other trick is to switch the driver and passenger side bottoms
and backs.  that way they wear on different sides.


DONE THAT, PLUS DONE THE POOL NOODLE FIX, WHICH WORKED WELL. HAVE  
SPARE SEATS WITH NO RIPS, BUT THEY'RE FROM NEW MEXICO, AND ARE DRIER  
THAN THE ONES I HAVE AND I'M AFRAID TO USE THEM WITHOUT CONDITIONING,  
THO I HAVE USED THE SPRINGS AND BASES (WITH WORKING SERVOS) TO REPLACE  
MINE. THUS MY INTEREST IN SOFTENING FROM THE BACK. LOOKS LIKE I'M  
STUCK, THO. FORTUNATELY, THE SEATS AREN'T TOO BAD YET.


THANKS, ALL, FOR THE SUGGESTIONS.

DAN
300SD

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Re: [MBZ] LEATHER SEAT MAINT QUESTION

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

I think so-former lister John Peterson had a 91 300d 2.5t with grey
tex-don't know how close it is to the grey leather color.
Dwight .

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 7:36 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] LEATHER SEAT MAINT QUESTION

Did they make gray MB Tex similar or matching the gray leather for the later
124s? The drivers seat and front arm rest in the '91 300E need replacing,
and I'd rather have Tex than leather anyway.

On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Someone else may know better, but my recollection is that the bottoms and
> backs have padding and a backing sewn together to make the "roll and tuck"
> effect.  If you take the seat covers off, you still would not be able to
> reach the backside of the leather easily.I would guess, as you suggest,
that
> taking them apart and re-sewing would weaken the leather and lead to rips.
>
> It might be easier to sand the surface, treat then refinish with the
> leatherique stuff.
>
> or find good seats in the right color and replace as needed
> or put sheepskins over what you have.
> or buy mb-tex covers as needed.
>
> One other trick is to switch the driver and passenger side bottoms and
> backs.  that way they wear on different sides.
>
>
> THe 28 year old leather seats in my 300SD are in pretty good shape but are
>> beginning to dry out even with annual leatherique applications.
>>
>> The problem is, the finish on the top of the leather keeps the
leatherique
>> from penetrating, except in cracks and wear spots.
>>
>> What seems to work very well is applying neat's foot oil to the
unfinished
>> back sides of the leather, which I've done with great results indeed to
the
>> top of the rear seat, and the skirts of both front and rear seats. THese
>> areas are now very supple, even though  the seatback especially had
gotten
>> very hard and brittle. The leather there soaked up a huge amount of
>> oil--three heavy brush applications. I'd now like to do the same to the
>> backrests and seats themselves, but don't know how to get at them as the
>> padding is in the way.  Has anyone ever done this? Can the padding be
>> removed and replaced? Or would it all have to be resewn, which I'm
reluctant
>> to do for fear of further damaging the leather?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Dan
>> 82 300SD, 325k miles
>>
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Re: [MBZ] LEATHER SEAT MAINT QUESTION

[OK Don]

Did they make gray MB Tex similar or matching the gray leather for the later
124s? The drivers seat and front arm rest in the '91 300E need replacing,
and I'd rather have Tex than leather anyway.

On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Someone else may know better, but my recollection is that the bottoms and
> backs have padding and a backing sewn together to make the "roll and tuck"
> effect.  If you take the seat covers off, you still would not be able to
> reach the backside of the leather easily.I would guess, as you suggest, that
> taking them apart and re-sewing would weaken the leather and lead to rips.
>
> It might be easier to sand the surface, treat then refinish with the
> leatherique stuff.
>
> or find good seats in the right color and replace as needed
> or put sheepskins over what you have.
> or buy mb-tex covers as needed.
>
> One other trick is to switch the driver and passenger side bottoms and
> backs.  that way they wear on different sides.
>
>
> THe 28 year old leather seats in my 300SD are in pretty good shape but are
>> beginning to dry out even with annual leatherique applications.
>>
>> The problem is, the finish on the top of the leather keeps the leatherique
>> from penetrating, except in cracks and wear spots.
>>
>> What seems to work very well is applying neat's foot oil to the unfinished
>> back sides of the leather, which I've done with great results indeed to the
>> top of the rear seat, and the skirts of both front and rear seats. THese
>> areas are now very supple, even though  the seatback especially had gotten
>> very hard and brittle. The leather there soaked up a huge amount of
>> oil--three heavy brush applications. I'd now like to do the same to the
>> backrests and seats themselves, but don't know how to get at them as the
>> padding is in the way.  Has anyone ever done this? Can the padding be
>> removed and replaced? Or would it all have to be resewn, which I'm reluctant
>> to do for fear of further damaging the leather?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Dan
>> 82 300SD, 325k miles
>>
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Re: [MBZ] LEATHER SEAT MAINT QUESTION

[Dieselhead]

Someone else may know better, but my recollection is that the bottoms 
and backs have padding and a backing sewn together to make the "roll 
and tuck" effect.  If you take the seat covers off, you still would 
not be able to reach the backside of the leather easily.I would 
guess, as you suggest, that taking them apart and re-sewing would 
weaken the leather and lead to rips.


It might be easier to sand the surface, treat then refinish with the 
leatherique stuff.


or find good seats in the right color and replace as needed
or put sheepskins over what you have.
or buy mb-tex covers as needed.

One other trick is to switch the driver and passenger side bottoms 
and backs.  that way they wear on different sides.


THe 28 year old leather seats in my 300SD are in pretty good shape 
but are beginning to dry out even with annual leatherique 
applications.


The problem is, the finish on the top of the leather keeps the 
leatherique from penetrating, except in cracks and wear spots.


What seems to work very well is applying neat's foot oil to the 
unfinished back sides of the leather, which I've done with great 
results indeed to the top of the rear seat, and the skirts of both 
front and rear seats. THese areas are now very supple, even though  
the seatback especially had gotten very hard and brittle. The 
leather there soaked up a huge amount of oil--three heavy brush 
applications. I'd now like to do the same to the backrests and seats 
themselves, but don't know how to get at them as the padding is in 
the way.  Has anyone ever done this? Can the padding be removed and 
replaced? Or would it all have to be resewn, which I'm reluctant to 
do for fear of further damaging the leather?


Thanks!

Dan
82 300SD, 325k miles

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Re: [MBZ] Leather?

[Wilton Strickland]

Yeah, that's right - Cordoba - thought LeBaron "sounded" strange for the
"rich Corinthian leather."  So, I'm thinking, too, that "Dakota" may be
another name for "Corinthian," i. e., BS>

Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leather?


Actually it was the Cordoba that had "rich Corinthian leather".

A quick google search shows Dakota pickups with leather and Bimmers...
Likely its just marketing.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:52:32 -0500
From: "Wilton Strickland" 
Subject: [MBZ] Leather?
To: "mercedes" 
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LeBaron had its "Corinthian" leather; 'just saw a BMW ad extolling its
"Dakota" leather. So, what is "Dakota" leather?

Wilton




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Re: [MBZ] Leather?

[Curt Raymond]

Actually it was the Cordoba that had "rich Corinthian leather".

A quick google search shows Dakota pickups with leather and Bimmers... Likely 
its just marketing.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:52:32 -0500
From: "Wilton Strickland" 
Subject: [MBZ] Leather?
To: "mercedes" 
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LeBaron had its "Corinthian" leather; 'just saw a BMW ad extolling its
"Dakota" leather.  So, what is "Dakota" leather?

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Re: [MBZ] Leather?

[E M]

I'm not sure, but as much as I like BMW's, I've never cared for their
leather.  Has a funny feel to it to me.  Especially some of their softer
leathers, I can always imagine them not lasting well.  I'm not saying they
don't last, just feel like they wouldn't last to me.

Ed
300E

2009/2/22 Wilton Strickland 

> LeBaron had its "Corinthian" leather; 'just saw a BMW ad extolling its
> "Dakota" leather.  So, what is "Dakota" leather?
>
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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

[Affzaal.Khan]

Thanks Rusty   .  If I had known earlier I would have combined  them   with 
my earlier  orders of engine stuff.
btw   you guy's are still  out of bushes for the rear control arms. !
mak
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109


>I have them for $1,120.00 for both front seats.
>
> Rusty Cullens
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> Subject: [MBZ] leather seats W109
>
>
>> the front leather seats on the 300SEL   have  developed  quite a few
>> small cracks   and look  worn out in contrast to the rear seats .
>> ? Are these  leather covers still available somewhere. What would be the
>> best options?
>>
>> input will be appreciated.
>> Thanks
>>
>> mak
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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

[andrew strasfogel]

Sometiems Bill Hirsch in NJ has good deals on interior leather.

On 8/7/07, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Rusty has'em too!
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>
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> > Adsit has them, so does World Upholstery.  Or you can do what I did and
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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

[Rusty Cullens]

Rusty has'em too!


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> Adsit has them, so does World Upholstery.  Or you can do what I did and 
> make a set.
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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

[Rusty Cullens]

I have them for $1,120.00 for both front seats.

Rusty Cullens
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Subject: [MBZ] leather seats W109


> the front leather seats on the 300SEL   have  developed  quite a few 
> small cracks   and look  worn out in contrast to the rear seats .
> ? Are these  leather covers still available somewhere. What would be the 
> best options?
>
> input will be appreciated.
> Thanks
>
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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

[James Zavesky]

Use Leaherique, stuff is amazing

http://www.leatherique.com/

Check with Rusty on availability http://www.buymbparts.com/


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> the front leather seats on the 300SEL   have  developed  quite a few
> small cracks   and look  worn out in contrast to the rear seats .
> ? Are these  leather covers still available somewhere. What would be the
> best options?
> 
> input will be appreciated.
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

[LWB250]

I won't go into details of my dealings with them, but
here's one of a number of things I found on the 'net
dealing with their business practices:

http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/archive/index.php/t-116464.html

Dan




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> Thanks DanAdvise heeded ,just closed their
> website I was browsing.seemed 
> overpriced too!
> mak
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> > >From my own personal experience, I would avoid
> Adsit
> > like the plague.
> >
> > World Upholstery, however, is a very fine place to
> do
> > business with.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > --- Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Adsit has them, so does World Upholstery.  Or you
> >> can do what I did and
> >> make a set.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

[Tom Hargrave]

Complete leather seat covers are expensive.

Stop by your local upholstery shop & have them take a look. I had the seat
portion of a 300D re-done a number of years ago. They were able to re-use
the side panels & the skirt & I believe the cost was $185.00.

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Thanks DanAdvise heeded ,just closed their website I was browsing.seemed

overpriced too!
mak


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> >From my own personal experience, I would avoid Adsit
> like the plague.
>
> World Upholstery, however, is a very fine place to do
> business with.
>
> Dan
>
>
> --- Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Adsit has them, so does World Upholstery.  Or you
>> can do what I did and
>> make a set.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

[Affzaal.Khan]

Thanks DanAdvise heeded ,just closed their website I was browsing.seemed 
overpriced too!
mak


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> >From my own personal experience, I would avoid Adsit
> like the plague.
>
> World Upholstery, however, is a very fine place to do
> business with.
>
> Dan
>
>
> --- Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Adsit has them, so does World Upholstery.  Or you
>> can do what I did and
>> make a set.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

[Peter Frederick]

Took the old ones off, made patterns, sewed them up (hehe).

The side bolsters  have a foam pad, best to use 1/2" folded over.  The 
cushion "ribs" are cotton filled in the orignials, you can use that or 
do what I did and put in 1" polyurethane foam, it's softer and rides 
MUCH better.

I sew the center sections flat, the sew a pleat in the backing (best to 
use woven polyester here, cotton sometimes deteriorates in contact with 
leather) to make the space for the pads.

Make piping by sewing a strip around a weed eater cord.

Worst part is sewing the apron to the seat and the sides to the back 
with a normal sewing machine -- if you have access to an upholstery 
machine, it will be much easier.

New covers are $500 to $750 per front seat.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

[LWB250]

>From my own personal experience, I would avoid Adsit
like the plague.

World Upholstery, however, is a very fine place to do
business with.

Dan


--- Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Adsit has them, so does World Upholstery.  Or you
> can do what I did and 
> make a set.
> 
> Peter
> 



   

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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

[Affzaal.Khan]

Peter Thanks for the info.
can you elaborate  on how you made the seat covers.
regards
mak


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> Adsit has them, so does World Upholstery.  Or you can do what I did and
> make a set.
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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

[Peter Frederick]

Adsit has them, so does World Upholstery.  Or you can do what I did and 
make a set.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Leather care products

[E M]

Thanks Dan.

The leather car is garaged and most always out of the sun, so it's pretty
much just maintaining it at it's current level.  However, since the 300E
came along, the Benz bug has really bit, so maybe there is an older car in
the future for me that will require such a product to bring back ages
leather.  I'll be sure to tuck this message away. :-)

Regards,
Ed
300E

On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Forget the Eagle One for the upholstery.  Use
> Leatherique.  The stuff is nothing short of amazing.
>
> Not that your interior would need it, but I have used
> it to recover the nastiest, hardest leather from old
> MBs that you ever saw.  If you follow George's
> instructions, you won't be disappointed.
>
> And the owners, George and Krystal are realy great
> people who are car enthusiasts like us.  They are very
> accessible and responsive to any questions or
> inquiries about their products.
>
> If you contact them, tell them I referred you (nothing
> in this for me, I just like them to know that we're
> getting the word out.)
>
> There are others on the list who are familiar with
> their products, too.  Fantastic stuff and worth every
> penny.
>
> Dan
>
>
> --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I must pick up a bottle of 303.  Also, I must stock
> > up on wax and especially
> > Eagle One leater care as my auto store seems to stop
> > carring a lot of stuff
> > over the winter months.  Even though I store the
> > porsche over the winter, I
> > still go out into the garage and wax it often to
> > pass the time.  Guess for
> > most, there isn't much of a call for wax when
> > there's a foot or two of snow
> > on the ground. :-)
> >
> > Ed
> > 300E
> >
> > On 18/07/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've become a big fan of 303.  I use it on the
> > plastic panels on the MB,
> > > all
> > > rubber, it even does a good job on metal.  I also
> > found it doesn;t smear
> > > of
> > > harm glass when I get overspray on it I can buff
> > it until it polishes out.
> > > Also, it does not contain any silicones which is a
> > big problem when a car
> > > is
> > > repainted or used around cars being repainted .
> > >
> > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
> > > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
> > > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > > PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
> > > Weber Carb Info
> > http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> > > .
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> > 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drying cars.
> > >
> > >
> > > > The 303 is expensive ($12-$16 for a 12 oz. spray
> > > > bottle, I believe) but it lasts some time.  The
> > thing
> > > > that's really great about it is that it has UV
> > > > blockers in it, which as you would expect, are
> > pretty
> > > > important when it comes to boats
> > > >
> > > > Another alternative for things like dash pads is
> > > > suntan lotion, believe it or not.  That's what
> > George
> > > > of Leatherique recommends, and he's definitely
> > an
> > > > expert when it comes to maintaining/restoring
> > interior
> > > > materials.
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I have a bunch of 100% beach towels and also,
> > some I
> > > >> purchased from a salon,
> > > >> which are small, but again, 100%.  Thanks for
> > the
> > > >> 303 tips.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ed
> > > >> 300E
> > > >>
> > > >> On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If you use towels rather than a chamois,
> > never,
> > > >> ever
> > > >> > use fabric softener on them, as it causes
> > > >> streaking.
> > > >> > Also be sure you use 100% cotton towels, as
> > > >> synthetics
> > > >> > can actually scratch paint.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I have a set of towels designated for nothing
> > but
> > > >> car
> > > >> > drying.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Also, something far better for your plastics
> > and
> > > >> > vinyl, especially if you live in a sunny
> > climate -
> > > >> 303
> > > >> > Protectant.  You can find it at a boat supply
> > > >> place
> > > >> > like West Marine.  Expensive, but probably
> > the
> > > >> best
> > > >> > stuff you can put on plastic surfaces.  No
> > > >> silicones
> > > >> > in it like  ArmorAll.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Dan, a.k.a. "Mercedes Martha Stewart"
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --- Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Fabric Softener and Towels:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > If you use fabric softener in the dryer,
> > you
> > > >> will
> > > >> > > find the absorbency
> > > >> > > of towels will be greatly reduced.  I used
> > to
> > > >> find
> > > >> > > that those towels
> > > >> > > would leave water droplets on my skin after
> > > >> bathing.
> > > >> > >  Same thing
> > > >> > > probably applies to soaking up water aft

Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood

[Jim Cathey]

someone told me recently, that the fuel mileage of a 2.5 manual is not
appreciably different than that of a 2.2 manual?


I believe this myself.  If we can ever get our 190D manual 2.5 deployed
we'll have some more numbers.  But IIRC it's 35-42, depending on 
conditions.


-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood

[Zoltan Finks]

I see what you're saying. I kinda realized that after i had sent him my
email with a bunch of questions. I realized that, hey, even if the engine is
bad, I get a replacement and still am not that bad off. And I've gotten the
2.2 five speed I'm seeking.

And thanks, Clay for the link to the decent looking 190D. I am pretty
insistend on a manny though. I do wonder how accurate it is, however, what
someone told me recently, that the fuel mileage of a 2.5 manual is not
appreciably different than that of a 2.2 manual?

Brian


On 5/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


if the price was decent, those type of deals are not to be screwed
aroudn with.  You have to be able to jump on it right then.

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> Are you guys kidding, or serious? just wondering.
>
> Yesterday, it was painful when I brought up this car - 190D 5 spd. - and
> this time my wife was onboard. The normal-looking carfax (thank you
Kaleb)
> reassured her, and the leather intrigued her. I got the effective
go-ahead
> to pursue.
>
> We clicked on the ad, and found out that it was sold!
> AAhhhww!
>
> Brian
>
>
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood

[Redghost]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/335079274.html

2.5


On May 21, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote:


Are you guys kidding, or serious? just wondering.

Yesterday, it was painful when I brought up this car - 190D 5 spd.  
- and
this time my wife was onboard. The normal-looking carfax (thank you  
Kaleb)
reassured her, and the leather intrigued her. I got the effective  
go-ahead

to pursue.

We clicked on the ad, and found out that it was sold!
AAhhhww!

Brian


On 5/21/07, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 5/21/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

that's definitely blue leather seats in a manual tranny diesel benz.

struggling to keep it in my pants,

Sunil.



ROFL!

My reaction exactly.  I'll fight you for it!

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC

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Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood

[Russ Williams]

Yep that's Leather Brian.

My first 240 D had Leather Interior, No Sun Roof, No Power Windows, No Power
Pass. Mirror, And an Auto Tranny.

Powder Blue Exterior and Dark Blue Interior.
I talked to the Original Owner after I bought it. And asked why none of 
the Power

Eqpt. He said he rather have the Leather than all the junk.

Russ W.

Zoltan Finks wrote:

Inform me on the instances in which leather seats could be found in MBs.

The car in question is an 85 190D. I'm looking at the photo and it struck me
that it actually looks like leather more than MBtex.

I realize it's not very common. Just wondering.

I'm attaching a photo.

Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

if the price was decent, those type of deals are not to be screwed 
aroudn with.  You have to be able to jump on it right then.


Zoltan Finks wrote:

Are you guys kidding, or serious? just wondering.

Yesterday, it was painful when I brought up this car - 190D 5 spd. - and
this time my wife was onboard. The normal-looking carfax (thank you Kaleb)
reassured her, and the leather intrigued her. I got the effective go-ahead
to pursue.

We clicked on the ad, and found out that it was sold!
AAhhhww!

Brian



Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood

[Zoltan Finks]

Are you guys kidding, or serious? just wondering.

Yesterday, it was painful when I brought up this car - 190D 5 spd. - and
this time my wife was onboard. The normal-looking carfax (thank you Kaleb)
reassured her, and the leather intrigued her. I got the effective go-ahead
to pursue.

We clicked on the ad, and found out that it was sold!
AAhhhww!

Brian


On 5/21/07, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 5/21/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> that's definitely blue leather seats in a manual tranny diesel benz.
>
> struggling to keep it in my pants,
>
> Sunil.
>

ROFL!

My reaction exactly.  I'll fight you for it!

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC

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Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 5/21/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

that's definitely blue leather seats in a manual tranny diesel benz.

struggling to keep it in my pants,

Sunil.



ROFL!

My reaction exactly.  I'll fight you for it!

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC

Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood

[Sunil Hari]

that's definitely blue leather seats in a manual tranny diesel benz.

struggling to keep it in my pants,

Sunil.

On 5/21/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


You're right - it was a rarely chosen but available option.

On 5/20/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Inform me on the instances in which leather seats could be found in MBs.
>
> The car in question is an 85 190D. I'm looking at the photo and it
struck
> me
> that it actually looks like leather more than MBtex.
>
> I realize it's not very common. Just wondering.
>
> I'm attaching a photo.
>
> Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood

[andrew strasfogel]

You're right - it was a rarely chosen but available option.

On 5/20/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Inform me on the instances in which leather seats could be found in MBs.

The car in question is an 85 190D. I'm looking at the photo and it struck
me
that it actually looks like leather more than MBtex.

I realize it's not very common. Just wondering.

I'm attaching a photo.

Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Leather seat covers for '96 F-150 Ford extended cab

[archer]

archer wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get leather seat covers for a 1996 Ford 
F-150

extended cab pickup?


Mitch Haley wrote:

Does World Upholstery do Fords?

Can you get good power leather seats from a Lariat or King Ranch truck
on the salvage market? Drop in replacement if you can find them. Not
cheap, but probably no worse than a set of quality leather covers.

--
Apparently they do.  I sent them a request for a price and a sample.

He told us he wanted leather seats of a particular color and this will be 
sort of a surprise, so we better just get him the seat covers.


www.leatherseats.com quoted about $650 on their website, so if World 
Upholstery isn't a lot higher, the price will be okay with his wife who is 
buying them.


Thanks,
Gerry 

Re: [MBZ] Leather seat covers for '96 F-150 Ford extended cab

[archer]

Because my relative wants leather.
Gerry

- Original Message - 
From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



why get leather when you can get sheepskin?

On 10/17/06, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get leather seat covers for a 1996 Ford 
F-150
extended cab pickup?  Has anyone had experience with a company on the 
'net

at www.leatherseats.com? This is a birthday present for a relative.
Thanks.
Gerry Archer
'83 300D and 240D 

Re: [MBZ] Leather seat covers for '96 F-150 Ford extended cab

[Sunil Hari]

why get leather when you can get sheepskin?

On 10/17/06, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Does anyone know where I can get leather seat covers for a 1996 Ford F-150
extended cab pickup?  Has anyone had experience with a company on the 'net
at www.leatherseats.com? This is a birthday present for a relative.
Thanks.
Gerry Archer
'83 300D and 240D


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Re: [MBZ] Leather seat covers for '96 F-150 Ford extended cab

[Mitch Haley]

archer wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know where I can get leather seat covers for a 1996 Ford F-150
> extended cab pickup? 

Does World Upholstery do Fords?

Can you get good power leather seats from a Lariat or King Ranch truck
on the salvage market? Drop in replacement if you can find them. Not
cheap, but probably no worse than a set of quality leather covers.

Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level

[Marshall Booth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Marshall -
For some reason, only one of the links made it thru - the one ending in 
"20060223/9f70218d/LeathTex.jpg"

Is that the Tex or the Leather?


The driver's seat is leather and the passenger's seat is TEX

Marshall
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turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex

[David Brodbeck]

Based on pictures of cars for sale I've seen, I think we're missing the 
obvious way to tell:


- If it looks good, it's MB-Tex.
- If it's cracked, shredded, and/or ripped up, it's leather.

Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 2/23/2006 2:39:18 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Next, I  know how to tell the difference between Tex and Leather if I can 
look  under the material - so far I haven't found a place where I can look - 
is  there any other way to tell the difference?
TIA  -



Larry,
 
The easiest place I know of to look is on the material that fills the gap  in 
the rear arm rest.  Look on the back side of it to see the raw leather  or 
the distinct appearance of molded plastic.  Of course the car could be a  
mixture of the two.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 140 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level

[Mitch Haley]

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> 
> Hi Marshall -
> For some reason, only one of the links made it thru - the one ending in
> "20060223/9f70218d/LeathTex.jpg"
> Is that the Tex or the Leather?

The seat behind the steering wheel is leather.
The seat next to it is tex.

Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level

[l02turner]

Hi Marshall -
For some reason, only one of the links made it thru - the one ending in 
"20060223/9f70218d/LeathTex.jpg"

Is that the Tex or the Leather?
Thx -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level



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Next, I know how to tell the difference between Tex and Leather if I can
look under the material - so far I haven't found a place where I can 
look -

is there any other way to tell the difference?
TIA -


The pattern that the tex interiors use and the pattern of leather are
different (at least thru '87). I have a leather and a few tex 201s.

I've attached a picture of a car with leather (driver's side) and tex
front seats.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level

[Marshall Booth]

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> Next, I know how to tell the difference between Tex and Leather if I can =

> look under the material - so far I haven't found a place where I can look=
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> is there any other way to tell the difference?
> TIA -

The pattern that the tex interiors use and the pattern of leather are =

different (at least thru '87). I have a leather and a few tex 201s.

I've attached a picture of a car with leather (driver's side) and tex =

front seats.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex

[Dave M.]

Larry,

If you can't find the color codes (1xx vs. 2xx), there's a simple
visual test - check out the photos at this URL:

http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=65927&page=13

:-)

-Dave M.

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> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:38:25 -0500
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level
>
>
> Next, I know how to tell the difference between Tex and Leather if I can
> look under the material - so far I haven't found a place where I can look -
> is there any other way to tell the difference?
> TIA -
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)

Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level

[Chuck Landenberger]

The hole pattern in leather has smaller holes and "bolster" area is  
smoother and will show more creases/cracks..


MBTex has larger holes and the bolsters have some pattern and no  
creases, generally.


Not very scientific, but best I can come up with..  Since I  
didn't do the "cigarette" test.


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Feb 23, 2006, at 4:34 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote:


Guess Marshall WILL answer the oil level question, me I try to keep it
somewhere in the range.
Far as tex and cow hide goes, I should think you could give it a  
sniff test?
Also I have found that tex has a factory (perfect look) whereas  
leather has

a more natural look about it.

Hendrik
sticks and stones may break my bones but leather, whips and chains  
excite me


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Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:08 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level



Now, my question - did I read that it;s best to keep the oil level at
between the upper & lower marks instead of at the top mark?  Now,  
I have

mine about 3/4 of the way up, between the upper and lower marks.

Sound OK -

Next, I know how to tell the difference between Tex and Leather if  
I can

look under the material - so far I haven't found a place where I can
look -
is there any other way to tell the difference?
TIA -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)


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Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level

[Werner Fehlauer]

Larry -
Yes, the proper level for the oil is below the max mark, probably about 1/2 
to 3/4 way between the top and bottom marks.  Take Marshall's advice, 
though, and look at the level after the car engine has been off for several 
hours - the Mobil1 does stick to internal engine parts, and does take some 
time to flow to the sump!


As for tex vs. leather, a clue is found in the code for the interior - 
usually, a 1xx number is MB-tex, and a 2xx number is leather.  You can check 
out all the codes in the build sheet (available from MBUSA or the dealer, if 
it isn't with the car documents), and also should be on the metal plate in 
front of the radiator (at least the exterior color is embossed there).  The 
codes were listed sometime back by Dan Landiss, and I think I can find the 
link if you don't have it.


Werner

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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level



Hello all -
Well, I changed my oil - used the topsider to suck it all out and also
changed the fuel prefilter.  It runs better already - but that's probably 
my

imagination since I'm a big fan of the Mobil 1 I put in. ;-)

Now, my question - did I read that it;s best to keep the oil level at
between the upper & lower marks instead of at the top mark?  Now, I have
mine about 3/4 of the way up, between the upper and lower marks.

Sound OK -

Next, I know how to tell the difference between Tex and Leather if I can
look under the material - so far I haven't found a place where I can 
look -

is there any other way to tell the difference?
TIA -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)

Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level

[Hendrik Riessen]

Guess Marshall WILL answer the oil level question, me I try to keep it 
somewhere in the range.
Far as tex and cow hide goes, I should think you could give it a sniff test? 
Also I have found that tex has a factory (perfect look) whereas leather has 
a more natural look about it.


Hendrik
sticks and stones may break my bones but leather, whips and chains excite me

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:08 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level



Now, my question - did I read that it;s best to keep the oil level at
between the upper & lower marks instead of at the top mark?  Now, I have
mine about 3/4 of the way up, between the upper and lower marks.

Sound OK -

Next, I know how to tell the difference between Tex and Leather if I can
look under the material - so far I haven't found a place where I can 
look -

is there any other way to tell the difference?
TIA -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)

Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level

[Jim Cathey]

Stab a lit cigarette into it and see if it smells like burnt
hair, or like burnt plastic.  You're welcome!


And for whatever reason, the PO of our 190D felt compelled
to repeat this test several times.  Must have had a bad
memory.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level

[Jim Cathey]

Next, I know how to tell the difference between Tex and Leather if I 
can
look under the material - so far I haven't found a place where I can 
look -

is there any other way to tell the difference?


Stab a lit cigarette into it and see if it smells like burnt
hair, or like burnt plastic.  You're welcome!

-- Jim