Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck
I could have sworn what I saw was Mobil 1, 10w-40 Not just Mobil 10w-40... Yeah, here it is... http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_High_Mileage_10W-40.aspx Introducing New Mobil 1 High Mileage New Mobil 1 High Mileage, available in a 10W-30 and a 10W-40, is designed especially for engines where conventional oil has been used. Mobil 1 High Mileage reduces the sludge and deposits that conventional oils can leave behind. Levi On 2/7/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith wrote: Also, what about the M1 10w-40 for high mileage engines would this be fine for old Benz' and perhaps offer a slight increase in cranking speed on these 0F days? Mobil 10W-40 High Mileage is NOT a group IV synthetic oil (like the Mobil 1 oils) and while it is API CF rated it is NOT approved for Mercedes engines (may not have ever been tested)! http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_Clean_High_Mileage.asp I'd use Delvac 1300 or Chevron Delo 400 if you don't want to use a real synthetic. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck
Levi Smith wrote: I could have sworn what I saw was Mobil 1, 10w-40 Not just Mobil 10w-40... Yeah, here it is... http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_High_Mileage_10W-40.aspx Introducing New Mobil 1 High Mileage New Mobil 1 High Mileage, available in a 10W-30 and a 10W-40, is designed especially for engines where conventional oil has been used. Mobil 1 High Mileage reduces the sludge and deposits that conventional oils can leave behind. Interesting. All of the M-1 oils do that quite nicely thanks. It's so new (I checked the other day and there was NO High Mileage M-1 10W-40 on the Mobil 1 page I visited - and there was no M-1 15W-50 either - only 15W-50 Extended) that there is no data sheet for it. Can't tell if it's really a group IV oil or not (it probably is, but that's not certain). It does seem to meet some (all?) of the ACEA specifications the lack of which prevented the M-1 xW-30 oils to not meet Mercedes 229.x standards. It's not at all clear that these are really lots of different oils with different actual qualities (Mobil used to be very good at make oils that did exactly what was needed) or just an Exxon marketing strategy (Exxon is well known for calling their products anything at all as long as it gets you to buy them). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck
Also, what about the M1 10w-40 for high mileage engines would this be fine for old Benz' and perhaps offer a slight increase in cranking speed on these 0F days? Levi On 2/7/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw it as autozone today in the quart bottles, 6.19 each. The 15W50 or whatever it is extented was like 6.93 I think. The 5qt jugs of the extended at walmart are cheaper. Should be just as good ad the TDT shouldnt it? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck
Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, what about the M1 10w-40 for high mileage engines would this be fine for old Benz' and perhaps offer a slight increase in cranking speed on these 0F days? M1 0W-40 is approved for MB light diesels (or was -- would not surprise me if Mobil had reformulated it along with everything else every six months). I used it for one change, and thought the engine sounded too clattery. With 15w50 was much quieter and did not noticeably impair cranking speed on cold mornings. OW-40 might be good, though, in *really* cold areas. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck
Which reminds me, I was at Autozone last night and they once again (still?) had Turbo Diesel Truck 5w40 in stock. It was under $6/qt, 15w50 was just over, like $6.40 or something. I was at Wal-Mart on Sunday, they had just a couple quarts of 15w50 at $6.80/qt or so, no 5qt jugs. In retrospect I should have gone to Autozone Sunday for ATF too, I got Wal-Mart brand for $2.50 a quart which was the cheapest non-Type F (do any newer cars use that stuff?). Autozone had several name brands for $1.50 a quart. This is surely going to help me quit Wal-Mart alltogether. -Curt Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:15:30 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Saw it as autozone today in the quart bottles, 6.19 each. The 15W50 or whatever it is extented was like 6.93 I think. The 5qt jugs of the extended at walmart are cheaper. Should be just as good ad the TDT shouldnt it? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 07 22:11:17 2007 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.224]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HEv0W-0001v0-VS for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:11:17 + Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i21so432233wra for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.153.18 with SMTP id a18mr2545293wae.1170886230686; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.110.5 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:10:30 -0500 From: Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] gmail post test X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:11:17 - This is a test from a gmail acct. If this posts successfully, I'll cancel my Netzero subscription and use this one for the list. TIA . . . Kaleb Don. Glenn Rochester, NY
Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck
No. The MB approved oils for your MB diesel are, in decreasing order of desirability: 5w40, what is now called Turbo diesel truck 15w50 0w40 Thats it... -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 15:19:26 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Also, what about the M1 10w-40 for high mileage engines would this be fine for old Benz' and perhaps offer a slight increase in cranking speed on these 0F days? Levi On 2/7/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw it as autozone today in the quart bottles, 6.19 each. The 15W50 or whatever it is extented was like 6.93 I think. The 5qt jugs of the extended at walmart are cheaper. Should be just as good ad the TDT shouldnt it? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 07 22:32:54 2007 Received: from alnrmhc15.comcast.net ([204.127.225.95]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HEvLS-0003VY-76 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:32:54 + Received: from [192.168.1.6] (c-71-199-114-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[71.199.114.113]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc15) with ESMTP id 20070207223146b1500gaqcue; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:32:06 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:31:40 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:32:55 - Levi Smith wrote: Also, what about the M1 10w-40 for high mileage engines would this be fine for old Benz' and perhaps offer a slight increase in cranking speed on these 0F days? Mobil 10W-40 High Mileage is NOT a group IV synthetic oil (like the Mobil 1 oils) and while it is API CF rated it is NOT approved for Mercedes engines (may not have ever been tested)! http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_Clean_High_Mileage.asp I'd use Delvac 1300 or Chevron Delo 400 if you don't want to use a real synthetic. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck Sighting
They aren't on this list, so don't count as being human -- On 4/19/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the person who placed it on the shelf? Ok, maybe they weren't human. Luther ~ ~To my knowledge, you are the first human to actually see this stuff on a ~store shelf! ~ ~Marshall -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck Sighting
Ralph W wrote: Hi Guys, It's been a while since I posted last. I'm on vacation this week and actually have some time for the list. I just dropped off some waste oil at the local auto parts chain here in Michigan (Murrays). They had the shelves stocked full of the M1 5W-40 Turbo Diesel Truck oil. I had to look at it several times to make sure I wasn't imagining things. I assumed it was some of the old TSUV stuff left over but it is indeed the stuff with the new name. It was $5.66 per quart. The local Walmart does not have it yet in the jugs but I'm hoping that will be soon as there is a big savings. Am I the first to see this stuff on the shelves? Sorry if this is old news. To my knowledge, you are the first human to actually see this stuff on a store shelf! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
