Re: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal
I want to say the valve covers themselves can leak, as can the oil filter housing and the oil cooler (if it has one) can leak. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: June 21, 2023 5:52 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal Youngest son just made a trip to Denver and back and was complaining about oil consumption, which, I thought, was excessive. The car (2002 W210/E320) has about 145k on the clock and has been well cared for. It's been in the family since it had about 91k on the clock. Has always run well, been trouble free, no issues and only a few repairs. M1 0W-40 is the staple oil, always has been. Based on what I could glean, he's using about 1-1/2 to 2 quarts every 1,000 miles. No obvious smoke or leakage that I have noted in the past, nor the telltale smell of burnt oil from it dripping on the exhaust. It got one of the "updated" oil filler caps with the bigger handle when it was new. I do know that the breather covers are leaking on the valve covers, so that's the first thing I'm going to do. Other than OE valve cover seals, I presume I use the Mercedes sealant for the breather covers? It's the stuff in the white tube with the black plastic plunger, 003989982010 I believe? If anyone else here has resealed breather covers on an M112 have anything to share, I'm all ears. I'm sure it's a simple job, just want to know if there are any things to avoid or watch out for. Thanks! -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal
A follow-up on this: I talked to Jono (Jonathan @ Blue Ridge Mercedes) and the first thing he said to do was bump the oil viscosity to 15W-50 (Mobil1). I’ve used the usual 0W-40 in it since I’ve owned the car or it’s been in my stable. It’s been running since June with 15W-50, and has about 3,000 miles on the clock since then and there’s been little to no oil consumption. No dripping or anything on the garage floor, so for now I’m leaving well enough alone. On a related note, the 2003 ML350 is now throwing CEL because(I think) the EGR tube is clogged. It’s about the right miles for it to be happening. Not a bad job, but sort of fiddly, especially if you’ve never done it before. It’s one a few bucks in parts for the seal/gasket, the rest is R&R and cleaning. -D > On Jun 21, 2023, at 9:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > I want to say the valve covers themselves can leak, as can the oil filter > housing and the oil cooler (if it has one) can leak. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: June 21, 2023 5:52 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal > > Youngest son just made a trip to Denver and back and was complaining about > oil consumption, which, I thought, was excessive. The car (2002 W210/E320) > has about 145k on the clock and has been well cared for. It's been in the > family since it had about 91k on the clock. Has always run well, been trouble > free, no issues and only a few repairs. M1 0W-40 is the staple oil, always > has been. > > Based on what I could glean, he's using about 1-1/2 to 2 quarts every 1,000 > miles. No obvious smoke or leakage that I have noted in the past, nor the > telltale smell of burnt oil from it dripping on the exhaust. It got one of > the "updated" oil filler caps with the bigger handle when it was new. > > I do know that the breather covers are leaking on the valve covers, so that's > the first thing I'm going to do. Other than OE valve cover seals, I presume I > use the Mercedes sealant for the breather covers? It's the stuff in the white > tube with the black plastic plunger, 003989982010 I believe? > > If anyone else here has resealed breather covers on an M112 have anything to > share, I'm all ears. I'm sure it's a simple job, just want to know if there > are any things to avoid or watch out for. > > Thanks! > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal
Angie's car likes a heavier oil. For the BEW engine VW spec includes 5w30 or 5w40. Her car will leak a quart of 5w30 every 1000 miles regular as tiddles. With 5w40 it leaks/burns a quart in about 8,000, quite acceptable for an 18 year old car I think. -Curt On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 05:08:00 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: A follow-up on this: I talked to Jono (Jonathan @ Blue Ridge Mercedes) and the first thing he said to do was bump the oil viscosity to 15W-50 (Mobil1). I’ve used the usual 0W-40 in it since I’ve owned the car or it’s been in my stable. It’s been running since June with 15W-50, and has about 3,000 miles on the clock since then and there’s been little to no oil consumption. No dripping or anything on the garage floor, so for now I’m leaving well enough alone. On a related note, the 2003 ML350 is now throwing CEL because(I think) the EGR tube is clogged. It’s about the right miles for it to be happening. Not a bad job, but sort of fiddly, especially if you’ve never done it before. It’s one a few bucks in parts for the seal/gasket, the rest is R&R and cleaning. -D > On Jun 21, 2023, at 9:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > I want to say the valve covers themselves can leak, as can the oil filter > housing and the oil cooler (if it has one) can leak. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: June 21, 2023 5:52 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal > > Youngest son just made a trip to Denver and back and was complaining about > oil consumption, which, I thought, was excessive. The car (2002 W210/E320) > has about 145k on the clock and has been well cared for. It's been in the > family since it had about 91k on the clock. Has always run well, been trouble > free, no issues and only a few repairs. M1 0W-40 is the staple oil, always > has been. > > Based on what I could glean, he's using about 1-1/2 to 2 quarts every 1,000 > miles. No obvious smoke or leakage that I have noted in the past, nor the > telltale smell of burnt oil from it dripping on the exhaust. It got one of > the "updated" oil filler caps with the bigger handle when it was new. > > I do know that the breather covers are leaking on the valve covers, so that's > the first thing I'm going to do. Other than OE valve cover seals, I presume I > use the Mercedes sealant for the breather covers? It's the stuff in the white > tube with the black plastic plunger, 003989982010 I believe? > > If anyone else here has resealed breather covers on an M112 have anything to > share, I'm all ears. I'm sure it's a simple job, just want to know if there > are any things to avoid or watch out for. > > Thanks! > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal
I was pretty surprised at the difference. I totally understand and expected consumption to decrease, but not that much. Guess I ought to look at using it in the 98 W210 wagon, as it’s approaching 220k but it doesn’t use anywhere near that much oil. The 2002 W210 sedan hasn’t quite reached 150k. -D > On Sep 11, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Angie's car likes a heavier oil. For the BEW engine VW spec includes 5w30 or > 5w40. Her car will leak a quart of 5w30 every 1000 miles regular as tiddles. > With 5w40 it leaks/burns a quart in about 8,000, quite acceptable for an 18 > year old car I think. > > -Curt > > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 05:08:00 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > A follow-up on this: > > I talked to Jono (Jonathan @ Blue Ridge Mercedes) and the first thing he said > to do was bump the oil viscosity to 15W-50 (Mobil1). I’ve used the usual > 0W-40 in it since I’ve owned the car or it’s been in my stable. > > It’s been running since June with 15W-50, and has about 3,000 miles on the > clock since then and there’s been little to no oil consumption. No dripping > or anything on the garage floor, so for now I’m leaving well enough alone. > > On a related note, the 2003 ML350 is now throwing CEL because(I think) the > EGR tube is clogged. It’s about the right miles for it to be happening. Not a > bad job, but sort of fiddly, especially if you’ve never done it before. It’s > one a few bucks in parts for the seal/gasket, the rest is R&R and cleaning. > > -D > > >> On Jun 21, 2023, at 9:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I want to say the valve covers themselves can leak, as can the oil filter >> housing and the oil cooler (if it has one) can leak. >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: June 21, 2023 5:52 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: d...@penoff.com >> Subject: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal >> >> Youngest son just made a trip to Denver and back and was complaining about >> oil consumption, which, I thought, was excessive. The car (2002 W210/E320) >> has about 145k on the clock and has been well cared for. It's been in the >> family since it had about 91k on the clock. Has always run well, been >> trouble free, no issues and only a few repairs. M1 0W-40 is the staple oil, >> always has been. >> >> Based on what I could glean, he's using about 1-1/2 to 2 quarts every 1,000 >> miles. No obvious smoke or leakage that I have noted in the past, nor the >> telltale smell of burnt oil from it dripping on the exhaust. It got one of >> the "updated" oil filler caps with the bigger handle when it was new. >> >> I do know that the breather covers are leaking on the valve covers, so >> that's the first thing I'm going to do. Other than OE valve cover seals, I >> presume I use the Mercedes sealant for the breather covers? It's the stuff >> in the white tube with the black plastic plunger, 003989982010 I believe? >> >> If anyone else here has resealed breather covers on an M112 have anything to >> share, I'm all ears. I'm sure it's a simple job, just want to know if there >> are any things to avoid or watch out for. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal
I'd consider 5w40 too, back when I was trying to get a 240D to start in the cold I found it to be the best balance of "easy to start" and "easy to keep in the engine". I changed the oil in my mother's 2014 Jeep Cherokee the other day. It takes 0w20, dang stuff is like water. Fortunately the process of changing it is pretty easy. The skid plate even has a little door to get the filter out. -Curt On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 12:44:50 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I was pretty surprised at the difference. I totally understand and expected consumption to decrease, but not that much. Guess I ought to look at using it in the 98 W210 wagon, as it’s approaching 220k but it doesn’t use anywhere near that much oil. The 2002 W210 sedan hasn’t quite reached 150k. -D > On Sep 11, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Angie's car likes a heavier oil. For the BEW engine VW spec includes 5w30 or > 5w40. Her car will leak a quart of 5w30 every 1000 miles regular as tiddles. > With 5w40 it leaks/burns a quart in about 8,000, quite acceptable for an 18 > year old car I think. > > -Curt > > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 05:08:00 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > A follow-up on this: > > I talked to Jono (Jonathan @ Blue Ridge Mercedes) and the first thing he said > to do was bump the oil viscosity to 15W-50 (Mobil1). I’ve used the usual > 0W-40 in it since I’ve owned the car or it’s been in my stable. > > It’s been running since June with 15W-50, and has about 3,000 miles on the > clock since then and there’s been little to no oil consumption. No dripping > or anything on the garage floor, so for now I’m leaving well enough alone. > > On a related note, the 2003 ML350 is now throwing CEL because(I think) the > EGR tube is clogged. It’s about the right miles for it to be happening. Not a > bad job, but sort of fiddly, especially if you’ve never done it before. It’s > one a few bucks in parts for the seal/gasket, the rest is R&R and cleaning. > > -D > > >> On Jun 21, 2023, at 9:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I want to say the valve covers themselves can leak, as can the oil filter >> housing and the oil cooler (if it has one) can leak. >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: June 21, 2023 5:52 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: d...@penoff.com >> Subject: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal >> >> Youngest son just made a trip to Denver and back and was complaining about >> oil consumption, which, I thought, was excessive. The car (2002 W210/E320) >> has about 145k on the clock and has been well cared for. It's been in the >> family since it had about 91k on the clock. Has always run well, been >> trouble free, no issues and only a few repairs. M1 0W-40 is the staple oil, >> always has been. >> >> Based on what I could glean, he's using about 1-1/2 to 2 quarts every 1,000 >> miles. No obvious smoke or leakage that I have noted in the past, nor the >> telltale smell of burnt oil from it dripping on the exhaust. It got one of >> the "updated" oil filler caps with the bigger handle when it was new. >> >> I do know that the breather covers are leaking on the valve covers, so >> that's the first thing I'm going to do. Other than OE valve cover seals, I >> presume I use the Mercedes sealant for the breather covers? It's the stuff >> in the white tube with the black plastic plunger, 003989982010 I believe? >> >> If anyone else here has resealed breather covers on an M112 have anything to >> share, I'm all ears. I'm sure it's a simple job, just want to know if there >> are any things to avoid or watch out for. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/
Re: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal
I pretty much run everything on 15w40 now days. On the breather covers there are tiny holes in then that you have to clean out that IIRC can cause increased oil consumption. Also, if the seal that goes from the air intake to the valve body gets hard and somehow supposedly caused increased oil consumption. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2023, at 4:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > A follow-up on this: > > I talked to Jono (Jonathan @ Blue Ridge Mercedes) and the first thing he said > to do was bump the oil viscosity to 15W-50 (Mobil1). I’ve used the usual > 0W-40 in it since I’ve owned the car or it’s been in my stable. > > It’s been running since June with 15W-50, and has about 3,000 miles on the > clock since then and there’s been little to no oil consumption. No dripping > or anything on the garage floor, so for now I’m leaving well enough alone. > > On a related note, the 2003 ML350 is now throwing CEL because(I think) the > EGR tube is clogged. It’s about the right miles for it to be happening. Not a > bad job, but sort of fiddly, especially if you’ve never done it before. It’s > one a few bucks in parts for the seal/gasket, the rest is R&R and cleaning. > > -D > > >> On Jun 21, 2023, at 9:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I want to say the valve covers themselves can leak, as can the oil filter >> housing and the oil cooler (if it has one) can leak. >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: June 21, 2023 5:52 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: d...@penoff.com >> Subject: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal >> >> Youngest son just made a trip to Denver and back and was complaining about >> oil consumption, which, I thought, was excessive. The car (2002 W210/E320) >> has about 145k on the clock and has been well cared for. It's been in the >> family since it had about 91k on the clock. Has always run well, been >> trouble free, no issues and only a few repairs. M1 0W-40 is the staple oil, >> always has been. >> >> Based on what I could glean, he's using about 1-1/2 to 2 quarts every 1,000 >> miles. No obvious smoke or leakage that I have noted in the past, nor the >> telltale smell of burnt oil from it dripping on the exhaust. It got one of >> the "updated" oil filler caps with the bigger handle when it was new. >> >> I do know that the breather covers are leaking on the valve covers, so >> that's the first thing I'm going to do. Other than OE valve cover seals, I >> presume I use the Mercedes sealant for the breather covers? It's the stuff >> in the white tube with the black plastic plunger, 003989982010 I believe? >> >> If anyone else here has resealed breather covers on an M112 have anything to >> share, I'm all ears. I'm sure it's a simple job, just want to know if there >> are any things to avoid or watch out for. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal
Yes I don’t really get this m112s that use a lot of oil. Our 05 seems to use a lot of oil. I think I have 15w40 in it now and perhaps it slowed it down but it still using oil. I’m wondering if these things need to have valve seals replaced. Seems like I looked into that once and concluded it might be a swine of a job. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2023, at 11:44 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was pretty surprised at the difference. I totally understand and expected > consumption to decrease, but not that much. > > Guess I ought to look at using it in the 98 W210 wagon, as it’s approaching > 220k but it doesn’t use anywhere near that much oil. The 2002 W210 sedan > hasn’t quite reached 150k. > > -D > >> On Sep 11, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> Angie's car likes a heavier oil. For the BEW engine VW spec includes 5w30 >> or 5w40. Her car will leak a quart of 5w30 every 1000 miles regular as >> tiddles. With 5w40 it leaks/burns a quart in about 8,000, quite acceptable >> for an 18 year old car I think. >> >> -Curt >> >> >> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 05:08:00 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via >> Mercedes wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> A follow-up on this: >> >> I talked to Jono (Jonathan @ Blue Ridge Mercedes) and the first thing he >> said to do was bump the oil viscosity to 15W-50 (Mobil1). I’ve used the >> usual 0W-40 in it since I’ve owned the car or it’s been in my stable. >> >> It’s been running since June with 15W-50, and has about 3,000 miles on the >> clock since then and there’s been little to no oil consumption. No dripping >> or anything on the garage floor, so for now I’m leaving well enough alone. >> >> On a related note, the 2003 ML350 is now throwing CEL because(I think) the >> EGR tube is clogged. It’s about the right miles for it to be happening. Not >> a bad job, but sort of fiddly, especially if you’ve never done it before. >> It’s one a few bucks in parts for the seal/gasket, the rest is R&R and >> cleaning. >> >> -D >> >> On Jun 21, 2023, at 9:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I want to say the valve covers themselves can leak, as can the oil filter >>> housing and the oil cooler (if it has one) can leak. >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Sent: June 21, 2023 5:52 PM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: d...@penoff.com >>> Subject: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal >>> >>> Youngest son just made a trip to Denver and back and was complaining about >>> oil consumption, which, I thought, was excessive. The car (2002 W210/E320) >>> has about 145k on the clock and has been well cared for. It's been in the >>> family since it had about 91k on the clock. Has always run well, been >>> trouble free, no issues and only a few repairs. M1 0W-40 is the staple oil, >>> always has been. >>> >>> Based on what I could glean, he's using about 1-1/2 to 2 quarts every 1,000 >>> miles. No obvious smoke or leakage that I have noted in the past, nor the >>> telltale smell of burnt oil from it dripping on the exhaust. It got one of >>> the "updated" oil filler caps with the bigger handle when it was new. >>> >>> I do know that the breather covers are leaking on the valve covers, so >>> that's the first thing I'm going to do. Other than OE valve cover seals, I >>> presume I use the Mercedes sealant for the breather covers? It's the stuff >>> in the white tube with the black plastic plunger, 003989982010 I believe? >>> >>> If anyone else here has resealed breather covers on an M112 have anything >>> to share, I'm all ears. I'm sure it's a simple job, just want to know if >>> there are any things to avoid or watch out for. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -D >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change d
Re: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal
The breather issues are well-known and documented, and despite the small sample I’ve worked with/owned, there doesn’t seem to be any consistency of when you can expect it to occur. It seems like the breather tube that goes into the back of the engine will clog up around 100k or thereabouts, but the rest of the system doesn’t seem to clog up on a predictable basis. I suspect that’s probably due to differences in how the engine has been driven, the type of oil, etc., etc. -D > On Sep 11, 2023, at 2:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes I don’t really get this m112s that use a lot of oil. Our 05 seems to use > a lot of oil. I think I have 15w40 in it now and perhaps it slowed it down > but it still using oil. I’m wondering if these things need to have valve > seals replaced. Seems like I looked into that once and concluded it might be > a swine of a job. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 11, 2023, at 11:44 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I was pretty surprised at the difference. I totally understand and expected >> consumption to decrease, but not that much. >> >> Guess I ought to look at using it in the 98 W210 wagon, as it’s approaching >> 220k but it doesn’t use anywhere near that much oil. The 2002 W210 sedan >> hasn’t quite reached 150k. >> >> -D >> >>> On Sep 11, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: >>> >>> Angie's car likes a heavier oil. For the BEW engine VW spec includes 5w30 >>> or 5w40. Her car will leak a quart of 5w30 every 1000 miles regular as >>> tiddles. With 5w40 it leaks/burns a quart in about 8,000, quite acceptable >>> for an 18 year old car I think. >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 05:08:00 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via >>> Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> A follow-up on this: >>> >>> I talked to Jono (Jonathan @ Blue Ridge Mercedes) and the first thing he >>> said to do was bump the oil viscosity to 15W-50 (Mobil1). I’ve used the >>> usual 0W-40 in it since I’ve owned the car or it’s been in my stable. >>> >>> It’s been running since June with 15W-50, and has about 3,000 miles on the >>> clock since then and there’s been little to no oil consumption. No dripping >>> or anything on the garage floor, so for now I’m leaving well enough alone. >>> >>> On a related note, the 2003 ML350 is now throwing CEL because(I think) the >>> EGR tube is clogged. It’s about the right miles for it to be happening. Not >>> a bad job, but sort of fiddly, especially if you’ve never done it before. >>> It’s one a few bucks in parts for the seal/gasket, the rest is R&R and >>> cleaning. >>> >>> -D >>> >>> > On Jun 21, 2023, at 9:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: I want to say the valve covers themselves can leak, as can the oil filter housing and the oil cooler (if it has one) can leak. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: June 21, 2023 5:52 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: [MBZ] M112 Breather Cover Reseal Youngest son just made a trip to Denver and back and was complaining about oil consumption, which, I thought, was excessive. The car (2002 W210/E320) has about 145k on the clock and has been well cared for. It's been in the family since it had about 91k on the clock. Has always run well, been trouble free, no issues and only a few repairs. M1 0W-40 is the staple oil, always has been. Based on what I could glean, he's using about 1-1/2 to 2 quarts every 1,000 miles. No obvious smoke or leakage that I have noted in the past, nor the telltale smell of burnt oil from it dripping on the exhaust. It got one of the "updated" oil filler caps with the bigger handle when it was new. I do know that the breather covers are leaking on the valve covers, so that's the first thing I'm going to do. Other than OE valve cover seals, I presume I use the Mercedes sealant for the breather covers? It's the stuff in the white tube with the black plastic plunger, 003989982010 I believe? If anyone else here has resealed breather covers on an M112 have anything to share, I'm all ears. I'm sure it's a simple job, just want to know if there are any things to avoid or watch out for. Thanks! -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_o
