Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes operating system MB.OS

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Another reason why I’m sticking to my “old” IC engines and cars, thank you. As 
long as I can keep them on the road…

-D

> On Feb 22, 2023, at 5:31 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think most people feel this way - even subscriptions for online services
> are annoying to most customers.  I don't think consumers will get behind
> these kinds of services/features.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 7:30 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Agreed, I want to buy a thing and own the thing. I hate having to pay
>> again and again for a thing...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 05:50:59 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The young folks may not mind paying monthly fees for such but I cannot
>> see most older folks thinking that is acceptable. Ford's crazy idea to
>> make command start work through your mobile phone and charge you a
>> monthly fee for it is silly. Thankfully, my truck is old enough to
>> predate all that nonsense. My son's truck is new enough to be caught up
>> in that but he bought it used and the previous owner had already had an
>> aftermarket command start installed so he doesn't pay for monthly service.
>> 
>> I am still annoyed that Google is trying to push features onto me that I
>> neither need nor want and insisting that I pay them a monthly fee. I
>> need to figure out how to dump them.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
>> On 22/02/2023 4:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Yep in other words a recurring subscription model to access features and
>> functionality.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, at 17:10, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 This was the key takeaway for me:
 
 
   *  Unlocking financial opportunity: Software-enabled revenues to
 evolve to high single-digit billion EUR figure by end of decade; MB.OS
 expected to enhance productivity and development speed; software
 investments within existing financial landscape
 
 -D
 
 On Feb 22, 2023, at 2:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes operating system MB.OS

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I think most people feel this way - even subscriptions for online services
are annoying to most customers.  I don't think consumers will get behind
these kinds of services/features.

Jaime


On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 7:30 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Agreed, I want to buy a thing and own the thing. I hate having to pay
> again and again for a thing...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 05:50:59 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> The young folks may not mind paying monthly fees for such but I cannot
> see most older folks thinking that is acceptable. Ford's crazy idea to
> make command start work through your mobile phone and charge you a
> monthly fee for it is silly. Thankfully, my truck is old enough to
> predate all that nonsense. My son's truck is new enough to be caught up
> in that but he bought it used and the previous owner had already had an
> aftermarket command start installed so he doesn't pay for monthly service.
>
> I am still annoyed that Google is trying to push features onto me that I
> neither need nor want and insisting that I pay them a monthly fee. I
> need to figure out how to dump them.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 22/02/2023 4:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> > Yep in other words a recurring subscription model to access features and
> functionality.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, at 17:10, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >> This was the key takeaway for me:
> >>
> >>
> >>*  Unlocking financial opportunity: Software-enabled revenues to
> >> evolve to high single-digit billion EUR figure by end of decade; MB.OS
> >> expected to enhance productivity and development speed; software
> >> investments within existing financial landscape
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> On Feb 22, 2023, at 2:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> https://media.mbusa.com/releases/software-architects-mercedes-benz-previews-its-operating-system-mbos
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes operating system MB.OS

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Agreed, I want to buy a thing and own the thing. I hate having to pay again and 
again for a thing...

-Curt

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 05:50:59 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





The young folks may not mind paying monthly fees for such but I cannot 
see most older folks thinking that is acceptable. Ford's crazy idea to 
make command start work through your mobile phone and charge you a 
monthly fee for it is silly. Thankfully, my truck is old enough to 
predate all that nonsense. My son's truck is new enough to be caught up 
in that but he bought it used and the previous owner had already had an 
aftermarket command start installed so he doesn't pay for monthly service.

I am still annoyed that Google is trying to push features onto me that I 
neither need nor want and insisting that I pay them a monthly fee. I 
need to figure out how to dump them.

Randy


On 22/02/2023 4:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Yep in other words a recurring subscription model to access features and 
> functionality.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, at 17:10, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> This was the key takeaway for me:
>>
>>
>>    *  Unlocking financial opportunity: Software-enabled revenues to
>> evolve to high single-digit billion EUR figure by end of decade; MB.OS
>> expected to enhance productivity and development speed; software
>> investments within existing financial landscape
>>
>> -D
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2023, at 2:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>
>> https://media.mbusa.com/releases/software-architects-mercedes-benz-previews-its-operating-system-mbos
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes operating system MB.OS

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

The young folks may not mind paying monthly fees for such but I cannot 
see most older folks thinking that is acceptable. Ford's crazy idea to 
make command start work through your mobile phone and charge you a 
monthly fee for it is silly. Thankfully, my truck is old enough to 
predate all that nonsense. My son's truck is new enough to be caught up 
in that but he bought it used and the previous owner had already had an 
aftermarket command start installed so he doesn't pay for monthly service.


I am still annoyed that Google is trying to push features onto me that I 
neither need nor want and insisting that I pay them a monthly fee. I 
need to figure out how to dump them.


Randy


On 22/02/2023 4:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Yep in other words a recurring subscription model to access features and 
functionality.



On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, at 17:10, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

This was the key takeaway for me:


   *   Unlocking financial opportunity: Software-enabled revenues to
evolve to high single-digit billion EUR figure by end of decade; MB.OS
expected to enhance productivity and development speed; software
investments within existing financial landscape

-D

On Feb 22, 2023, at 2:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

https://media.mbusa.com/releases/software-architects-mercedes-benz-previews-its-operating-system-mbos
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes operating system MB.OS

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That is the trend these days 

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> On Feb 22, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep in other words a recurring subscription model to access features and 
> functionality.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, at 17:10, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> This was the key takeaway for me:
>> 
>> 
>>  *   Unlocking financial opportunity: Software-enabled revenues to 
>> evolve to high single-digit billion EUR figure by end of decade; MB.OS 
>> expected to enhance productivity and development speed; software 
>> investments within existing financial landscape
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2023, at 2:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes operating system MB.OS

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yep in other words a recurring subscription model to access features and 
functionality.



On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, at 17:10, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> This was the key takeaway for me:
>
>
>   *   Unlocking financial opportunity: Software-enabled revenues to 
> evolve to high single-digit billion EUR figure by end of decade; MB.OS 
> expected to enhance productivity and development speed; software 
> investments within existing financial landscape
>
> -D
>
> On Feb 22, 2023, at 2:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes operating system MB.OS

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

This was the key takeaway for me:


  *   Unlocking financial opportunity: Software-enabled revenues to evolve to 
high single-digit billion EUR figure by end of decade; MB.OS expected to 
enhance productivity and development speed; software investments within 
existing financial landscape

-D

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel Engines

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I keep waiting for someone to develop a bioreactor fuel source. Oh wait - I
think that is called a horse. But one without all the balky tendencies and
with a smaller package would be nice.
On Jun 3, 2016 5:04 AM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" <
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> "Continuous improvement"
>
> Isn't that what human life is all about?
>
> On Thursday, June 2, 2016, Craig via Mercedes 
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> >
> >
> http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2016/05/mercedes-benz-invests-billions-in-new-engine-technology/
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel Engines

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"Continuous improvement"

Isn't that what human life is all about?

On Thursday, June 2, 2016, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

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> http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2016/05/mercedes-benz-invests-billions-in-new-engine-technology/
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel Engines

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Are you believing there is an engine under there somewhere?

Makes me want an OM621, or a 1940 vintage Shovey 6 cyl, or a frod 300 
Six.  Or, a M180.



Craig via Mercedes 
June 2, 2016 at 3:06 PMvia Postbox 


http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2016/05/mercedes-benz-invests-billions-in-new-engine-technology/


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Dumptruck

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Comes complete with a load of boulders.

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> Herr Mann Sez:  It is already "K'leb Green" so perfect !
>>
>> Side dump configuration. Interesting use for tight quarter delivery.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Dumptruck

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Herr Mann Sez:  It is already "K'leb Green" so perfect !

Side dump configuration. Interesting use for tight quarter delivery.



3 way dump and  drop sides are common in Yurp.

3 way dump is left, right or rear.

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Dumptruck

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thats a decent although not outstanding price. Ought to be able to get a 5 ton 
for that price and its more than twice as much truck. Difficult for most people 
to own though...
MA is a bastard about owning a big truck, dually trucks require commercial 
registration with yearly medical checks. Can't imagine what hoops they'd make 
you jump through for a 6x6.
-Curt

  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
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There is a guy down here selling nearly new deuce and a halfs for $8500. He had 
6 and some only had 300 miles and the highest mile one was 30k

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> FYI - Kleb needs one of these - -
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> http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autos-trucks/mercedes-sprinter-extreme-concept-is-a-dumptruck-unhinged/ar-BBppgJE?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=edgsp#image=BBppebA|1
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> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Dumptruck

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There is a guy down here selling nearly new deuce and a halfs for $8500. He had 
6 and some only had 300 miles and the highest mile one was 30k

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> FYI - Kleb needs one of these - -
> 
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autos-trucks/mercedes-sprinter-extreme-concept-is-a-dumptruck-unhinged/ar-BBppgJE?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=edgsp#image=BBppebA|1
> 
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> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Dumptruck

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It is already "K'leb Green" so perfect !

Side dump configuration. Interesting use for tight quarter delivery.

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> FYI - Kleb needs one of these - -
>
>
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autos-trucks/mercedes-sprinter-extreme-concept-is-a-dumptruck-unhinged/ar-BBppgJE?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=edgsp#image=BBppebA|1
>
> --
> OK Don
>
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Catalog

[Gary Hurst]

yes, both bilstein and crispy creme


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> Gary sells Bilstein donuts.
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>
> On 3/20/14 11:26 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
>> rubber donuts are cheap and plentiful
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  On 19/03/2014 6:09 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
>>>
>>>  Where do we buy W123 exhaust hangers - the rubber donuts?  Dealer
 only?  Gary?  Do any good quality online places sell these?  Does
 anyone have a few they want to sell?
 Thanks.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Catalog

[Gary Hurst]

the girls can't resist!


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> And he's got the sexy, too!
>
> Poos
>
> > On Mar 20, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> >
> > Gary sells Bilstein donuts.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> >> On 3/20/14 11:26 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> >> rubber donuts are cheap and plentiful
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell 
> wrote:
> >>>
>  On 19/03/2014 6:09 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
> 
>  Where do we buy W123 exhaust hangers - the rubber donuts?  Dealer
>  only?  Gary?  Do any good quality online places sell these?  Does
>  anyone have a few they want to sell?
>  Thanks.
>  mao
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> shop
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> >>> they used the dealer.
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Catalog

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Dan wrote:
> And he's got the sexy, too!

How does trojan work with that.
Or... take it to banned and have Kaleb ask...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Catalog

[Dan Penoff]

And he's got the sexy, too!

Poos

> On Mar 20, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Rich Thomas 
>  wrote:
> 
> Gary sells Bilstein donuts.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 3/20/14 11:26 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>> rubber donuts are cheap and plentiful
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
>>> 
 On 19/03/2014 6:09 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
 
 Where do we buy W123 exhaust hangers - the rubber donuts?  Dealer
 only?  Gary?  Do any good quality online places sell these?  Does
 anyone have a few they want to sell?
 Thanks.
 mao
 
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  I don't think they are anything special.
>>> Try the FLAPS.
>>> I know that when I bought my 300D, I had to have it safetied and the shop
>>> that did the safety ordered one and got it right away and I don't think
>>> they used the dealer.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Catalog

[Rich Thomas]

Gary sells Bilstein donuts.

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On 3/20/14 11:26 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:

rubber donuts are cheap and plentiful


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


On 19/03/2014 6:09 PM, Mountain Man wrote:


Where do we buy W123 exhaust hangers - the rubber donuts?  Dealer
only?  Gary?  Do any good quality online places sell these?  Does
anyone have a few they want to sell?
Thanks.
mao

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  I don't think they are anything special.

Try the FLAPS.
I know that when I bought my 300D, I had to have it safetied and the shop
that did the safety ordered one and got it right away and I don't think
they used the dealer.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Catalog

[Dieselhead]

Where do we buy W123 exhaust hangers - the rubber donuts?

FLAPS, junkyard (pick your own) VW stealer, BMW stealer, MB stealer, 
and many more places.  Rock auto, AutohausAZ online,  FLAPS 
Online  Many more...


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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Catalog

[Gary Hurst]

rubber donuts are cheap and plentiful


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> On 19/03/2014 6:09 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
>
>> Where do we buy W123 exhaust hangers - the rubber donuts?  Dealer
>> only?  Gary?  Do any good quality online places sell these?  Does
>> anyone have a few they want to sell?
>> Thanks.
>> mao
>>
>> ___
>>
>>  I don't think they are anything special.
> Try the FLAPS.
> I know that when I bought my 300D, I had to have it safetied and the shop
> that did the safety ordered one and got it right away and I don't think
> they used the dealer.
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Catalog

[Randy Bennell]

On 19/03/2014 6:09 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Where do we buy W123 exhaust hangers - the rubber donuts?  Dealer
only?  Gary?  Do any good quality online places sell these?  Does
anyone have a few they want to sell?
Thanks.
mao

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Try the FLAPS.
I know that when I bought my 300D, I had to have it safetied and the 
shop that did the safety ordered one and got it right away and I don't 
think they used the dealer.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Catalog

[Mountain Man]

Where do we buy W123 exhaust hangers - the rubber donuts?  Dealer
only?  Gary?  Do any good quality online places sell these?  Does
anyone have a few they want to sell?
Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Catalog

[Dan Penoff]

I bought a set of hard top straps from them, mainly because I was too lazy to 
look for something elsewhere. Very nice, well constructed, not bad for the 
price. ($50)

Everything else I looked at in their catalog was froo-froo stuff or grossly 
overpriced, I thought.

Dan

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> On Mar 18, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> 
> i know that their prices are pretty sky high, maybe the most most expensive
> of anyone in the country, including the worst gouging dealers.
> 
> the only guy i know in titusville has a one man shop,  arnott is up near
> there as well
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:41 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com <
> arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Received a 236 page Mercedes parts catalog from Eckler's MBZ Parts in, of
>> all places, Titusville, Florida; which is just up the east coast of Florida
>> from Gary.
>> It's a no-nonsense catalog; something on the order of Californias old
>> Performance Products catalogs; but with parts listings going back much
>> further.
>> I've often used the old Performance Products catalogs diagrams, etc.; but
>> very seldom bought anything from them since their prices were high.  The
>> only price I've checked in their catalog so far is an AC pump for my 240D
>> which they listed at $300.xx; which was more than I paid for the last one
>> from Rusty.
>> Not sure how they got my name and address as a Mercedes owner.
>> Maybe Gary knows something about them?
>> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Catalog

[Gary Hurst]

i know that their prices are pretty sky high, maybe the most most expensive
of anyone in the country, including the worst gouging dealers.

the only guy i know in titusville has a one man shop,  arnott is up near
there as well


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> Received a 236 page Mercedes parts catalog from Eckler's MBZ Parts in, of
> all places, Titusville, Florida; which is just up the east coast of Florida
> from Gary.
> It's a no-nonsense catalog; something on the order of Californias old
> Performance Products catalogs; but with parts listings going back much
> further.
> I've often used the old Performance Products catalogs diagrams, etc.; but
> very seldom bought anything from them since their prices were high.  The
> only price I've checked in their catalog so far is an AC pump for my 240D
> which they listed at $300.xx; which was more than I paid for the last one
> from Rusty.
> Not sure how they got my name and address as a Mercedes owner.
> Maybe Gary knows something about them?
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Jim Cathey]

The Sprinters up to '06 has the 2.7L I5 Turbodiesel.  In '07, they had 
the option of either the new V6 3.0L CDI engine or a V6 3.5L > vergasser.


Well then, I know which Sprinters I'm interested in!

I5, it's not just for freeways anymore!

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Kevin Kraly]

The Sprinters up to '06 has the 2.7L I5 Turbodiesel.  In '07, they had the 
option of either the new V6 3.0L CDI engine or a V6 3.5L vergasser.


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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> My Cheap Class had a sticker price of $34,500 or so, in 1986 dollars. That
> W201 might have been a performance model at the time, but I bet a $40k new
> one would blow its 167hp doors off. It looks like #34k gets you 228hp (C300
> Sport) and $40k gets you 268hp (C350 Sport). The C63 AMG is probably the
> inflation adjusted price match for my 2.3-16v, but the C63 weighs 1000lb
> more (3924lb!!!) and only makes 451hp.
>

$34,500 in 1986 equals $68,225.95 now (if you can believe the
gummint---see http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm).  Base
price for the 2010 C63 AMG is $57,350---close enough.

A bound collection of '80s Road & Track Mercedes reviews I have ("Road
& Track on Mercedes: 1981-1987") lists the base sticker price of the
300E as almost the same as the 2.3-16 (and there were only two options
available for the 300E in the first couple of years IIRC---leather vs
MB-Tex and 5-speed vs automatic), so all you guys driving $1000 124s
can feel pretty smug at the 98% discount you got.   ;)

An '85 500SEL's base price was $52,200 in '86 dollars, or $105,147.59
now.  Assuming a gray-market '82 500SEL would have gone for about the
same amount, I feel even smugger about the 99.5% discount I got when I
paid $500 for mine.

(Yes, I know this is silly, doesn't account for depreciation, etc. etc.)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Curt Raymond]

Meaning you thought it was too much or too little? Thats not a lot more 
expensive than my 240D was new...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:40:05 -0500
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes
Message-ID: <4bc26be5.6050...@striplin.net>
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I was shocked at the price tag on these new cheap class cars.  WOW.  
What I was seeing was low 40's prices on those.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
> Yes, I stopped at a dealer on my way home from an out of town meeting last
> Friday-I agree about not being turned on--but if I found a 2005 cdi-I would
> put it on my lottery wish list-this dealer said unobtainum. Seems as if
> around here I see mostly new C-class-not my class. A friend of mine just
> bought a 2005 E320 gasser and it does drive like an E-class-solid,
> responsive, etc. 
>
> Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
> 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
> 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
> Wickford, RI


  
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:
> I think the Kaleb household needs one of those Freightliner Mercedes vans.
> The dealer I pass everyday has the MB window van.
> I wonder if it has a diesel engine.

Yup, they all have a turbodiesel five.

> The other one at the dealer I like is the Mercedes Hummer - whatever
> the name of that baby is... Not Hummer really, but the boxy all
> terrain little toy that the wealthy-class can afford, but probably not
> enough toys for them to desire SUV.

The G-class aka Gelaendewagen?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

ok, thanks

Bob Rentfro wrote:

A Duramax family. If any heads up info comes out of carpool boy's time in
the shop I'll pass it along.

Bob R

  


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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[LWB250]

I doubt I will ever buy a new vehicle again, short of winning the lottery.  
Spending $30k-$40k for a vehicle and having that monthly payment is just 
something I don't want to be burdened with.  Just doesn't make a lot a sense to 
me, especially when you figure in the depreciation.

Dan


--- On Sun, 4/11/10, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:

From: Kaleb C. Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 11:01 PM

Yep, the plain jane pickup trucks are 25k, with few options.  Get some options, 
a diesel, something like that and you are over 50k.  Get a Tahoe or something 
with nav, dvd etc and your are close to 60

Dieselhead wrote:
> uh, ever looked at the price tags on plain old Detriot iron?  I looked at a 
> Chuby PEEckup last week.  Sticker was a very Mercedes-like $50K.   I told the 
> sales lizard that for $50k, I would buy a REAL Mercedes Benz.  Crazy!
> 
> The Cheep class MB are what the yuppie larvae (wanna-bees) lease. They are 
> all over.  A few years ago I thought about picking up an off-lease one for 
> SWMBO, cause A C230 mit Kompressor could be had for $10 K.
> 
> I saw a 66 Frod pickup yesterday, driving around.  It looked all original, 
> even the paint and hubcaps.   If I could find something like that, and put in 
> an OM603 or even a 606, if they don't have to have too  much electonics 
> hangin on, that would make a nice vehicle for hauling and towing.  Take out 
> the junk frod seat, and put in a couple of Volvo seats, or better, Bostrom 
> air-ride seats, and it would even be comfortable for long trips.  I have been 
> thinking a mid-sixties Detriot pickup, or better yet, one ton with a low 
> ratio rear end, would be way better than any of this new crap.
> 
> 65 to 67 frod pickups had thick sheet metal, as did the dodges of about the 
> same time frame.  But I'd take 64 chevy pickup just for sentimentality   
> if I could find one that was not rusty and I had the $$.
> 
> 
>> I was shocked at the price tag on these new cheap class cars.  WOW. What I 
>> was seeing was low 40's prices on those.
>> 
>> Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
>>> Yes, I stopped at a dealer on my way home from an out of town meeting last
>>> Friday-I agree about not being turned on--but if I found a 2005 cdi-I would
>>> put it on my lottery wish list-this dealer said unobtainum. Seems as if
>>> around here I see mostly new C-class-not my class. A friend of mine just
>>> bought a 2005 E320 gasser and it does drive like an E-class-solid,
>>> responsive, etc.
>>> Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
>>> 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
>>> Wickford, RI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:10 PM
>>> To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List
>>> Subject: [MBZ] New Mercedes
>>> 
>>> We were in town today close to the MB dealer so I decided to stop by and 
>>> look at the new/newer models.  Nothing did a thing for me at all.  I just 
>>> dont find new MB models in the least bit interesting. I think up to about 
>>> 99 is as new as I care for.  I do kind of like the mid 2k CDI
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>> 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 
>> 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 
>> 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Mitch Haley]

Dieselhead wrote:

Wow! a 2 ton C class!  ...(course, a 6.3 IS
a big block, and that accounts for a few hundred extra lbs)  


Yeah, the C300 was lighter, more like 3500lb. But that's still too heavy. 
Heavier than a W123, about as heavy as a new Saab 9-5 (which is a pretty big car)


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Dieselhead]

Ja, but probably not in Norte Amerika

Tell her they are not available, and that her 123 is way better anyhow!



SWMBO wants to replace her 300CD turbodiesel coupe with a NEW diesel coupe.
 Does this even exist??

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Mountain Man wrote:


 Dieselhead wrote:
 > They all look like they should be in some transformers toy box, or a
 > transformers movie.  Butt ugly, especially the grilles.

 I think the Kaleb household needs one of those Freightliner Mercedes vans.
 The dealer I pass everyday has the MB window van.
 I wonder if it has a diesel engine.
 The other one at the dealer I like is the Mercedes Hummer - whatever
 the name of that baby is... Not Hummer really, but the boxy all
 terrain little toy that the wealthy-class can afford, but probably not
 enough toys for them to desire SUV.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Bob Rentfro]

A Duramax family. If any heads up info comes out of carpool boy's time in
the shop I'll pass it along.

Bob R

On Apr 11, 2010 8:24 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

mine is a 02.  My dad just bought a 05 though.

Bob Rentfro wrote:

> '05
>
> Bob R
>
>
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mine is a 02.  My dad just bought a 05 though.

Bob Rentfro wrote:

'05

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Bob Rentfro]

'05

Bob R

On Apr 11, 2010 8:19 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

what year is his truck?

Bob Rentfro wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Dieselhead]

Not me, I don't have one.


So you should drive it in reverse all the time!

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On Apr 11, 2010, at 21:13, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

They all look like they should be in some transformers toy box, or 
a transformers movie.  Butt ugly, especially the grilles.


We were in town today close to the MB dealer so I decided to stop 
by and look at the new/newer models.  Nothing did a thing for me 
at all.  I just dont find new MB models in the least bit 
interesting. I think up to about 99 is as new as I care for.  I do 
kind of like the mid 2k CDI


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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

what year is his truck?

Bob Rentfro wrote:

He'll find out tomorrow what is wrong. It will be interesting 'cause he's
wickeed anal by the Chevy book maintainer dude.

Bob R

On Apr 11, 2010 8:11 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

no problems at all.

Bob Rentfro wrote:
  

So...how's your Duramax doing? Carpool boy has his in the shop and, at


100K
  

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Bob Rentfro]

He'll find out tomorrow what is wrong. It will be interesting 'cause he's
wickeed anal by the Chevy book maintainer dude.

Bob R

On Apr 11, 2010 8:11 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

no problems at all.

Bob Rentfro wrote:
>
> So...how's your Duramax doing? Carpool boy has his in the shop and, at
100K
>...

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no problems at all. 


Bob Rentfro wrote:

So...how's your Duramax doing? Carpool boy has his in the shop and, at 100K
miles, it's jacked up.

Bob R

On Apr 11, 2010 8:01 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

Yep, the plain jane pickup trucks are 25k, with few options.  Get some
options, a diesel, something like that and you are over 50k.  Get a Tahoe or
something with nav, dvd etc and your are close to 60

Dieselhead wrote:

  

uh, ever looked at the price tags on plain old Detriot iron?  I looked at
  

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Bob Rentfro]

So...how's your Duramax doing? Carpool boy has his in the shop and, at 100K
miles, it's jacked up.

Bob R

On Apr 11, 2010 8:01 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

Yep, the plain jane pickup trucks are 25k, with few options.  Get some
options, a diesel, something like that and you are over 50k.  Get a Tahoe or
something with nav, dvd etc and your are close to 60

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no

andrew strasfogel wrote:

SWMBO wants to replace her 300CD turbodiesel coupe with a NEW diesel coupe.
 Does this even exist??

  


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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

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Yep, the plain jane pickup trucks are 25k, with few options.  Get some 
options, a diesel, something like that and you are over 50k.  Get a 
Tahoe or something with nav, dvd etc and your are close to 60


Dieselhead wrote:
uh, ever looked at the price tags on plain old Detriot iron?  I looked 
at a Chuby PEEckup last week.  Sticker was a very Mercedes-like 
$50K.   I told the sales lizard that for $50k, I would buy a REAL 
Mercedes Benz.  Crazy!


The Cheep class MB are what the yuppie larvae (wanna-bees) lease. They 
are all over.  A few years ago I thought about picking up an off-lease 
one for SWMBO, cause A C230 mit Kompressor could be had for $10 K.


I saw a 66 Frod pickup yesterday, driving around.  It looked all 
original, even the paint and hubcaps.   If I could find something like 
that, and put in an OM603 or even a 606, if they don't have to have 
too  much electonics hangin on, that would make a nice vehicle for 
hauling and towing.  Take out the junk frod seat, and put in a couple 
of Volvo seats, or better, Bostrom air-ride seats, and it would even 
be comfortable for long trips.  I have been thinking a mid-sixties 
Detriot pickup, or better yet, one ton with a low ratio rear end, 
would be way better than any of this new crap.


65 to 67 frod pickups had thick sheet metal, as did the dodges of 
about the same time frame.  But I'd take 64 chevy pickup just for 
sentimentality   if I could find one that was not rusty and I had 
the $$.



I was shocked at the price tag on these new cheap class cars.  WOW. 
What I was seeing was low 40's prices on those.


Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
Yes, I stopped at a dealer on my way home from an out of town 
meeting last
Friday-I agree about not being turned on--but if I found a 2005 
cdi-I would

put it on my lottery wish list-this dealer said unobtainum. Seems as if
around here I see mostly new C-class-not my class. A friend of mine 
just

bought a 2005 E320 gasser and it does drive like an E-class-solid,
responsive, etc.
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI


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Subject: [MBZ] New Mercedes

We were in town today close to the MB dealer so I decided to stop by 
and look at the new/newer models.  Nothing did a thing for me at 
all.  I just dont find new MB models in the least bit interesting. I 
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

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So you should drive it in reverse all the time!

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On Apr 11, 2010, at 21:13, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

They all look like they should be in some transformers toy box, or a  
transformers movie.  Butt ugly, especially the grilles.



We were in town today close to the MB dealer so I decided to stop  
by and look at the new/newer models.  Nothing did a thing for me at  
all.  I just dont find new MB models in the least bit interesting.  
I think up to about 99 is as new as I care for.  I do kind of like  
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[andrew strasfogel]

SWMBO wants to replace her 300CD turbodiesel coupe with a NEW diesel coupe.
 Does this even exist??

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

> Dieselhead wrote:
> > They all look like they should be in some transformers toy box, or a
> > transformers movie.  Butt ugly, especially the grilles.
>
> I think the Kaleb household needs one of those Freightliner Mercedes vans.
> The dealer I pass everyday has the MB window van.
> I wonder if it has a diesel engine.
> The other one at the dealer I like is the Mercedes Hummer - whatever
> the name of that baby is... Not Hummer really, but the boxy all
> terrain little toy that the wealthy-class can afford, but probably not
> enough toys for them to desire SUV.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

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Dieselhead wrote:
> They all look like they should be in some transformers toy box, or a
> transformers movie.  Butt ugly, especially the grilles.

I think the Kaleb household needs one of those Freightliner Mercedes vans.
The dealer I pass everyday has the MB window van.
I wonder if it has a diesel engine.
The other one at the dealer I like is the Mercedes Hummer - whatever
the name of that baby is... Not Hummer really, but the boxy all
terrain little toy that the wealthy-class can afford, but probably not
enough toys for them to desire SUV.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Dieselhead]

Wow! a 2 ton C class!  That was what a 60s full size big block car 
weighed!  like a grand prick 383 or an Impala 396 or 427 Or a 
chrysler or a lincoln or a caddy.   2 tons in a c class is putting a 
lot of metal in a little package.   A vw or such was about 1800 lb. 
(course, a 6.3 IS a big block, and that accounts for a few hundred 
extra lbs)   I bet workin on a 6.3 in a cheap class (like 
changing spark plugs) is a ton of fun!




Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I was shocked at the price tag on these new cheap class cars.  WOW. 
What I was seeing was low 40's prices on those.




My Cheap Class had a sticker price of $34,500 or so, in 1986 
dollars. That W201 might have been a performance model at the time, 
but I bet a $40k new one would blow its 167hp doors off. It looks 
like #34k gets you 228hp (C300 Sport) and $40k gets you 268hp (C350 
Sport). The C63 AMG is probably the inflation adjusted price match 
for my 2.3-16v, but the C63 weighs 1000lb more (3924lb!!!) and only 
makes 451hp.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I was shocked at the price tag on these new cheap class cars.  WOW.  
What I was seeing was low 40's prices on those.




My Cheap Class had a sticker price of $34,500 or so, in 1986 dollars. That W201 
might have been a performance model at the time, but I bet a $40k new one would 
blow its 167hp doors off. It looks like #34k gets you 228hp (C300 Sport) and 
$40k gets you 268hp (C350 Sport). The C63 AMG is probably the inflation adjusted 
price match for my 2.3-16v, but the C63 weighs 1000lb more (3924lb!!!) and only 
makes 451hp.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Dieselhead]

uh, ever looked at the price tags on plain old Detriot iron?  I 
looked at a Chuby PEEckup last week.  Sticker was a very 
Mercedes-like $50K.   I told the sales lizard that for $50k, I would 
buy a REAL Mercedes Benz.  Crazy!


The Cheep class MB are what the yuppie larvae (wanna-bees) lease. 
They are all over.  A few years ago I thought about picking up an 
off-lease one for SWMBO, cause A C230 mit Kompressor could be had for 
$10 K.


I saw a 66 Frod pickup yesterday, driving around.  It looked all 
original, even the paint and hubcaps.   If I could find something 
like that, and put in an OM603 or even a 606, if they don't have to 
have too  much electonics hangin on, that would make a nice vehicle 
for hauling and towing.  Take out the junk frod seat, and put in a 
couple of Volvo seats, or better, Bostrom air-ride seats, and it 
would even be comfortable for long trips.  I have been thinking a 
mid-sixties Detriot pickup, or better yet, one ton with a low ratio 
rear end, would be way better than any of this new crap.


65 to 67 frod pickups had thick sheet metal, as did the dodges of 
about the same time frame.  But I'd take 64 chevy pickup just for 
sentimentality   if I could find one that was not rusty and I had 
the $$.



I was shocked at the price tag on these new cheap class cars.  WOW. 
What I was seeing was low 40's prices on those.


Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

Yes, I stopped at a dealer on my way home from an out of town meeting last
Friday-I agree about not being turned on--but if I found a 2005 cdi-I would
put it on my lottery wish list-this dealer said unobtainum. Seems as if
around here I see mostly new C-class-not my class. A friend of mine just
bought a 2005 E320 gasser and it does drive like an E-class-solid,
responsive, etc.
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI


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On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:10 PM
To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List
Subject: [MBZ] New Mercedes

We were in town today close to the MB dealer so I decided to stop 
by and look at the new/newer models.  Nothing did a thing for me at 
all.  I just dont find new MB models in the least bit interesting. 
I think up to about 99 is as new as I care for.  I do kind of like 
the mid 2k CDI





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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Dieselhead]

They all look like they should be in some transformers toy box, or a 
transformers movie.  Butt ugly, especially the grilles.



We were in town today close to the MB dealer so I decided to stop by 
and look at the new/newer models.  Nothing did a thing for me at 
all.  I just dont find new MB models in the least bit interesting. 
I think up to about 99 is as new as I care for.  I do kind of like 
the mid 2k CDI


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560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D 
euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com



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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

I didn't even look at the window price stickers.  Well a Smart is  $16K so I
guess it goes up accordingly. I will stick with my 123 & 124. 

Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Wickford RI 02852

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:40 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

I was shocked at the price tag on these new cheap class cars.  WOW.  
What I was seeing was low 40's prices on those.



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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I was shocked at the price tag on these new cheap class cars.  WOW.  
What I was seeing was low 40's prices on those.


Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

Yes, I stopped at a dealer on my way home from an out of town meeting last
Friday-I agree about not being turned on--but if I found a 2005 cdi-I would
put it on my lottery wish list-this dealer said unobtainum. Seems as if
around here I see mostly new C-class-not my class. A friend of mine just
bought a 2005 E320 gasser and it does drive like an E-class-solid,
responsive, etc. 


Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.

Wickford, RI


-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:10 PM
To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List
Subject: [MBZ] New Mercedes

We were in town today close to the MB dealer so I decided to stop by and 
look at the new/newer models.  Nothing did a thing for me at all.  I 
just dont find new MB models in the least bit interesting.  I think up 
to about 99 is as new as I care for.  I do kind of like the mid 2k CDI


  


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95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 
91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 
85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
http://www.okiebenz.com



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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Yes, I stopped at a dealer on my way home from an out of town meeting last
Friday-I agree about not being turned on--but if I found a 2005 cdi-I would
put it on my lottery wish list-this dealer said unobtainum. Seems as if
around here I see mostly new C-class-not my class. A friend of mine just
bought a 2005 E320 gasser and it does drive like an E-class-solid,
responsive, etc. 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI


-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:10 PM
To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List
Subject: [MBZ] New Mercedes

We were in town today close to the MB dealer so I decided to stop by and 
look at the new/newer models.  Nothing did a thing for me at all.  I 
just dont find new MB models in the least bit interesting.  I think up 
to about 99 is as new as I care for.  I do kind of like the mid 2k CDI

-- 
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 
 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 
 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
http://www.okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes 1995 E300D

[Robert Massmann]

Glenn,

Thanks. I made my first order of part fo rthe 95. Assortmant of filters and an 
antenna mast. Will start changing fluids and such to get onto a regular 
maintanance schedule.

Regards,
Bob Massmann
95 E300D
  - Original Message - 
  From: Glenn Brown 
  To: rmassm...@embarqmail.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:16 PM
  Subject: New Mercedes 1995 E300D


  Bob,
  Nice color too.  Since it was a CA car, I'll bet the majority of the 19K/Y 
was at Xway speeds so you'll probably get a long life outa' her if only you can 
keep her away from the OH salt.  Good luck with it.

  G. M. Brown
  Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel

[OK Don]

Re: "Piezioelectric is "the ability of some materials (notably
crystals and certain ceramics) to generate an electric potential"".

The material has two modes - if you apply pressure or deform it, it
will generate electricity, per the article. However, if you apply
electricity to it, it will deform, or move. Hence, you can use it to
very quickly open and close a valve 


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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel/Piezio

[Hendrik & Fay]

And they would more than likely cost more each than an old 300D.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
> Piezio to me was:  hit a rock, generate a spark.  This would be  the 
> opposite;  provide a spark will move a valve, a glorified solenoid  valve.  
> These 
> electronic injectors are so quick that they permit 3 to 5  firings per power 
> stroke, which controls the severity of the flame front travel  and gets more 
> power 
> while reducing the noise level and emissions.
>
> They  respond (open and close)  much faster, allowing more control of  the
> injection cycle.
>
>
>
> Jim  Friesen
> Phoenix AZ
> 79 300SD, 264 K miles 
> 98 ML 320, 152 K  miles
>
>
>
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel/Piezio

[LarryT]

Thx Jim -
Excellent explanation.  Now I understand why Piezio is the best way to 
drive an injector.

That's quite a leap forward.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel/Piezio


>
> Piezio to me was:  hit a rock, generate a spark.  This would be  the
> opposite;  provide a spark will move a valve, a glorified solenoid  valve. 
> These
> electronic injectors are so quick that they permit 3 to 5  firings per 
> power
> stroke, which controls the severity of the flame front travel  and gets 
> more power
> while reducing the noise level and emissions.
>
> They  respond (open and close)  much faster, allowing more control of  the
> injection cycle.
>
>
>
> Jim  Friesen
> Phoenix AZ
> 79 300SD, 264 K miles
> 98 ML 320, 152 K  miles
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel/Piezio

[JFreezn]

 
Piezio to me was:  hit a rock, generate a spark.  This would be  the 
opposite;  provide a spark will move a valve, a glorified solenoid  valve.  
These 
electronic injectors are so quick that they permit 3 to 5  firings per power 
stroke, which controls the severity of the flame front travel  and gets more 
power 
while reducing the noise level and emissions.

They  respond (open and close)  much faster, allowing more control of  the
injection cycle.



Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 152 K  miles



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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel

[Tom Hargrave]

They respond (open and close)  much faster, allowing more control of the
injection cycle.

Thanks, Tom
256-656-1924

-Original Message-
From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: 10/18/07 12:09 PM
Subject: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel

Hello,
Was reading about the new Diesel on the MB website and they talk
about 
new "piezoelectric fuel injectors" which contribute to the efficiency of
the 
engine.

I'm trying to understand how the piezoelectric concept helps the 
injectors?  I read Wikipaedia and it says Piezioelectric is "the ability
of 
some materials (notably crystals and certain ceramics) to generate an 
electric potential"  and while I understand what they are saying (sort
of), 
I can't grasp how it helps fuel injectors.

Previous injectors were controlled by electrical pulses from the ECU
as 
I understand it - but I can't see how the Piezio effect would be better.

Can someone provide a easily understood paragraph or 2?

BTW, the new diesel is now available in the E Class, ML, GL and R
class. 
While I cannot afford a new MB perhaps in a few years I can find a nice
used 
one.

Thx -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes-McLaren F1 Team

[Hendrik Riessen]

That's some good reasoning there Jeff, perhaps to put it all in perspective 
you could get a map of England and a map of the USA in the same sacale and 
then compare the two in regards to physical size. Let us know what you find 
out.


- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:33 PM
Subject: [MBZ] New Mercedes-McLaren F1 Team


. Maybe

it's because the scale is smaller here but it all seems close to me.


Jeff Zedic
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