Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 DieselSpecial Edition

2009-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley

ned kleinhenz wrote:

Max:

The vacuum pump on my 95 E300D disintegrated. 


Ned, were you the fellow who waited some number of months for a part on that 
engine?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 DieselSpecial Edition

2009-10-21 Thread ned kleinhenz
Max:

The vacuum pump on my 95 E300D disintegrated.  So the pumps from that year
must still be vulnerable.
And Marshall was correct.  There is a cam mounted on the front of the fuel
injection pump that drives the vacuum pump.
It is kind of like a wobble disk.  The surface of that cam was trashed on
mine.  I can't tell if the vacuum pump ruined the cam or the cam ruined the
vacuum pump.
But the entire assembly around the cam had to be replaced.  Can't buy just
the cam.  And it requires some engine disassembling to do that.

I don't know if I would recommend this, but I pulled the entire engine with
transmission.  That way I could remove the oil pan and inspect around the
oil pump, timing case etc.
I found a few stray bearings inside.  It was a sizable job.  I used the
opportunity to change ALL the fluids, inspect and replace lots of expendable
parts.  I wish I had replaced the motor mounts. I also was prepared to
replace the timing chain, but the existing one was OK.

I don't remember how many bearings are in that pump.  But you can inspect
the failed pump and figure out about how many bearings should fit in the
races.
Good luck
Ned
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Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 DieselSpecial Edition

2009-10-21 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Thank Kaleb, I'll bet it is unplugged as there was recent work on the
fuel system.

Max 

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
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Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300
DieselSpecial Edition

The oil pressure pegging means the pressure sensor is bad, or the wire
is unhooked.

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
> OK, now I've got two things to worry about.  The oil pressure gauge 
> seemed to be malfunctioning - it would peg at 3.0 BEFORE the engine 
> was started, and stay there.  Also, just read a Marshall post saying 
> that if the pump fails on the OM60x engines, there is very likely 
> damage to the cam face of the injection pump timer.
>
> Max
>   

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 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 
 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 DieselSpecial Edition

2009-10-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The oil pressure pegging means the pressure sensor is bad, or the wire 
is unhooked.


Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

OK, now I've got two things to worry about.  The oil pressure gauge
seemed to be malfunctioning - it would peg at 3.0 BEFORE the engine was
started, and stay there.  Also, just read a Marshall post saying that if
the pump fails on the OM60x engines, there is very likely damage to the
cam face of the injection pump timer.

Max 
  


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95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 
91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 
85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 DieselSpecial Edition

2009-10-20 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
OK, now I've got two things to worry about.  The oil pressure gauge
seemed to be malfunctioning - it would peg at 3.0 BEFORE the engine was
started, and stay there.  Also, just read a Marshall post saying that if
the pump fails on the OM60x engines, there is very likely damage to the
cam face of the injection pump timer.

Max 

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300
DieselSpecial Edition

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
> Ned,
> 
> Thanks, I'm really looking forward to getting this car sorted.
> 
> When did the MB vacuum pumps finally get re-designed so that the parts

> don't fall into the engine?  I was hoping before 1994 (when this car 
> was built).

Somebody on this list had a E300D a few years ago and the vac pump
bearings took out a part that was backordered to infinity and beyond.
(maybe the oil pump?) I don't know if the car was a W124 or a W210, but
it was a 94 or later with the 24v OM606.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 DieselSpecial Edition

2009-10-20 Thread Mitch Haley

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

Ned,

Thanks, I'm really looking forward to getting this car sorted.

When did the MB vacuum pumps finally get re-designed so that the parts
don't fall into the engine?  I was hoping before 1994 (when this car was
built).


Somebody on this list had a E300D a few years ago and the vac pump bearings took 
out a part that was backordered to infinity and beyond. (maybe the oil pump?)
I don't know if the car was a W124 or a W210, but it was a 94 or later with the 
24v OM606.


Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 DieselSpecial Edition

2009-10-20 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Ned,

Thanks, I'm really looking forward to getting this car sorted.

When did the MB vacuum pumps finally get re-designed so that the parts
don't fall into the engine?  I was hoping before 1994 (when this car was
built).

If it has already dumped, how many ball bearings should I look for?

How do I get them out?  I'm thinking that raising the front of car and
draining the oil at the plug may do it, and then pulling the oil level
sensor if I want to fish around inside.

Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300
DieselSpecial Edition

Max;
I recognize those symptoms very vividly from my 95 E300D.
The vacuum pump has failed.
Try not to run the engine until you replace the pump.
The pump has a lot of little ball bearings that often drop into the
timing case and/or crank case when the pump fails.

You'll love this car when you get it fixed up.

Ned Kleinhenz
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Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 DieselSpecial Edition

2009-10-20 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Finally ran the VIN in the EPC and data card shows ASD.  Guess I have a whole 
new system to learn!

Max 

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Behalf Of dave walton
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 DieselSpecial 
Edition

ASR uses the wheel sensors from the ABS system. It eases up on the throttle and 
applies the brake to the spinning wheel if necessary. It did not appear on 
diesels until they used the electronically controlled injection pump. I'm 
thinking that was 1999? Maybe 1998? The only diesel Mercedes was selling in 
this country at the time was the E300.

-Dave Walton

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 
53310  wrote:
> That could be it.  There was a yellow triangle in center of the 
> instrument panel with the acronym.
>
> So you think it does NOT have SLS, just the locking differential?  
> Uses the same hydraulic oil and a dual-type power steering pump?
>
> Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:55 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 
> Diesel Special Edition
>
> That car does not have tracking control, what you are seeing is the 
> hydraulics for the ASD (locking diff)
>
> Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
>> Gents,
>>
>> Here's a couple pix of a car I bought last night.  It was advertised 
>> for $2200.  I was thrilled to find that it has SLS, heated front 
>> seats, and traction control (ASR?  I think that is the acronym).  
>> Body
>
>> is rust free but has some dings and dents.  Interior is decent.
>>
>> There is a complete failure of the vacuum system, probably the vacuum 
>> pump but I will need to confirm.  I guess that massive leak in the 
>> power brakes could also cause the problem (brakes are rock hard, 
>> vacuum shut-off for engine doesn't work).
>>
>> Other issues:  Really rough idle (I'm not surprised, it has sat for 
>> six
>> months) and the oil gauge pegs at 3.0 BEFORE you start the engine.
>> Also has a big crack in windshield and third brake light assembly is 
>> missing from rear window.
>>
>> Now I've got to get the car home (it's about 120 miles away).  Rich 
>> may be up for the adventure depending on his social calendar.
>>
>> Of course, I drove my wagon up, and she promptly got jealous.  Radio 
>> stopped functioning, and one high beam light burned out.  More 
>> trouble
>
>> from her on the drive to work this a.m. - sending that in another
> email.
>>
>> Very respectfully,
>> /s/
>> LCDR Max Dillon
>> '87 300TD 315k miles
>> '95 E300 274k miles
>> Charleston SC
>>
>>
>>
>
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>  95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL,
>  91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>  85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
>
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