Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Just came across a par of DCM Time Frame 500s. For you DCM fans out there, are these worth looking into? Thanks, Dan From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://search.ebay.com/270807159995 Those look just like mine. SWMBO thinks they are ugly, I tell her to close her eyes and listen. ;) Does she think these are ugly? I'll trade you a pair of my TF275s for your TWs. http://search.ebay.com/270808278265 I have a pair of those too! (Or an outwardly identical model.) Got them for $100 also. She thinks they're better looking but to my ear they don't sound as good---the treble reproduction is shrill compared to the Time Windows. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
LWB250 wrote: Just came across a par of DCM Time Frame 500s. For you DCM fans out there, are these worth looking into? Better than my 275s, anyway. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-90158.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Just came across a pair buried in a CL listing. The guy is asking $245, but if I look at them and am satisfied, I would probably offer $200, maybe $180. Thanks! Dan From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo LWB250 wrote: Just came across a par of DCM Time Frame 500s. For you DCM fans out there, are these worth looking into? Better than my 275s, anyway. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-90158.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 4:22 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Just came across a pair buried in a CL listing. The guy is asking $245, but if I look at them and am satisfied, I would probably offer $200, maybe $180. Definitely worth a listen for that price!!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
On Aug 28, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: LWB250 wrote: He said $95 and they're mine. They're from an estate sale, the surrounds and grilles are in mint condition, and the cabinets each have a small area where the finish has some wear on it. That's an easy fix for me, since I have done furniture for years. I'm going to go look at them tomorrow. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105954 That link is worth way more than the price of admission. The AudioKarma guys are exceptionally helpful. A great place to go for reel-to-reel info, too. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=157 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Definitely. I have been using them as a resource since I started looking around. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2011, at 7:10 AM, w123wa...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 28, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: LWB250 wrote: He said $95 and they're mine. They're from an estate sale, the surrounds and grilles are in mint condition, and the cabinets each have a small area where the finish has some wear on it. That's an easy fix for me, since I have done furniture for years. I'm going to go look at them tomorrow. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105954 That link is worth way more than the price of admission. The AudioKarma guys are exceptionally helpful. A great place to go for reel-to-reel info, too. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=157 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
My large Advents I bought in 74 are still in daily use, I had to get them re-coned about15 years ago, but that was cheap. The guy who did it said, Ah, some of the best speakers ever made. When I went to MIT a few years after I bought them, the old Advent factory was just down the street from my apartment. --R On 8/28/11 9:58 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Dan wrote: I remember the sales guys in the electronics place I worked at calling these Advent killers. I finally bought myself some advents - I always wanted advent since early '70's I have no idea how old these are - but they do alright... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:27 -0700, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I still have plans for EV Eliminators and Altec A7s, but I'm not sure I'm going to go that far with speakers. Wasn't someone on here talking about some really nice vintage speakers that were still available for reasonable prices? That's one area I'm going to need some recommendations and opinions, as my previous speakers were spec built by me, based on my learnings from a Purdue University course I audited on audio design. I have the means in the near future to build my own, but I really don't want to get into such an undertaking. I built a pair of A7s when I was in college. Have a book with plans. Let me know if you're interested. Sold the cabinets to a fraternity when I moved. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Speaking of Advent and Cambridge/MIT, does anyone remember KLH systems? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:19:22 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo My large Advents I bought in 74 are still in daily use, I had to get them re-coned about15 years ago, but that was cheap. The guy who did it said, Ah, some of the best speakers ever made. When I went to MIT a few years after I bought them, the old Advent factory was just down the street from my apartment. --R On 8/28/11 9:58 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Dan wrote: I remember the sales guys in the electronics place I worked at calling these Advent killers. I finally bought myself some advents - I always wanted advent since early '70's I have no idea how old these are - but they do alright... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
K in KLH was Henry Kloss who designed the Advents. Advent got bought or something, and turned into Cambridge Soundworks and various other incarnations. I have a pair of back channel Boston Acoustics speakers that emerged, somehow, from all the mess. I have a small pair of BA speakers I got at a flea market for nothing, that need new cones when I get a roundtuit. Excellent speakers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kloss --R On 8/29/11 9:22 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Advent and Cambridge/MIT, does anyone remember KLH systems? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:19:22 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo My large Advents I bought in 74 are still in daily use, I had to get them re-coned about15 years ago, but that was cheap. The guy who did it said, Ah, some of the best speakers ever made. When I went to MIT a few years after I bought them, the old Advent factory was just down the street from my apartment. --R On 8/28/11 9:58 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Dan wrote: I remember the sales guys in the electronics place I worked at calling these Advent killers. I finally bought myself some advents - I always wanted advent since early '70's I have no idea how old these are - but they do alright... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Advent and Cambridge/MIT, does anyone remember KLH systems? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry A friend bought a KLH satellite/subwoofer system about 15 years ago. Total junk, shipped it right back the next day. Like so many formerly respected names, it became the property of a company that used it to push cheap junk. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
I believe KLH is still around, but as Mitch indicated, they have fallen into the ranks of consumer goods rather than quality products. Just scored a Pioneer 1020L reel to reel courtesy of CL. Looks good, needs a pinch roller ($10) but is otherwise in great shape... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Advent and Cambridge/MIT, does anyone remember KLH systems? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry A friend bought a KLH satellite/subwoofer system about 15 years ago. Total junk, shipped it right back the next day. Like so many formerly respected names, it became the property of a company that used it to push cheap junk. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
In my opinion nothing beats a Mac tube amp driving a pair of Klipsch LaScala fronts and Heresy's for the rear. Nice warm sound from the amp and crisp sound reproduction through the whole range as Klipsch is well known for. Mike On Aug 29, 2011 9:52 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Advent and Cambridge/MIT, does anyone remember KLH systems? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry A friend bought a KLH satellite/subwoofer system about 15 years ago. Total junk, shipped it right back the next day. Like so many formerly respected names, it became the property of a company that used it to push cheap junk. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
KLH sucks anymore. Boston's are much more common in automotive systems now. BA's sound awesome but they are power hungry. You want a good amp to drive them even at lower volume levels. Mike On Aug 29, 2011 9:52 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Advent and Cambridge/MIT, does anyone remember KLH systems? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry A friend bought a KLH satellite/subwoofer system about 15 years ago. Total junk, shipped it right back the next day. Like so many formerly respected names, it became the property of a company that used it to push cheap junk. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
I have an old Aiwa or Akai rtr I never use if anyone is interested. Needs some work but it sort of playslol. Probably too heavy to make it worth shipping. For nice, cheap, vintage amps take a look at the old Sansui AU7700 or 9900 series. The black faced units are some of the sexiest integrated amps I have laid eyes on and they sound great. Mike On Aug 29, 2011 9:56 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe KLH is still around, but as Mitch indicated, they have fallen into the ranks of consumer goods rather than quality products. Just scored a Pioneer 1020L reel to reel courtesy of CL. Looks good, needs a pinch roller ($10) but is otherwise in great shape... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Advent and Cambridge/MIT, does anyone remember KLH systems? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry A friend bought a KLH satellite/subwoofer system about 15 years ago. Total junk, shipped it right back the next day. Like so many formerly respected names, it became the property of a company that used it to push cheap junk. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
I had a couple KLH speakers that I got about 20 years ago. They had very good sound. I sold them with my 92 Technics component system when I downsized to a newer Sony bookshelf unit. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Is Marantz still the gold standard for receivers? On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:43 PM, kevin kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: I had a couple KLH speakers that I got about 20 years ago. They had very good sound. I sold them with my 92 Technics component system when I downsized to a newer Sony bookshelf unit. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Heh. Looked at the JBLs tonight. Somebody replaced the woofers with some cheap stamped steel knock off speaker. Popped on out and showed the owner. I think he got scammed a while back. Found a pair of JBL Decade L36s on CL. Owner wants $225/pair and they need surrounds. He has the kit but hasn't gotten around to doing them. I offered him $175 with the kits and an inspection (gotta make sure the coils aren't dragging since the surrounds are worn out.) Waiting for a response... No Time speakers around here Dan From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo LWB250 wrote: Just got a call from my AV buddy - he has a line on some JBL Decade L26 speakers. Wow, people pay $100 a pair for woofers out of those. Funny thing is they also pay $100-200 for the whole speakers. http://search.ebay.com/400237663247 http://www.ebay.com/csc/i.html?_nkw=JBL+L26+_sacat=0LH_Complete=1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Andrew wrote: Speaking of Advent and Cambridge/MIT, does anyone remember KLH systems? I have an old KLH FM radio - nice sound for the size. You see modern versions at ebay. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Yesterday it was a really nice Marantz 2230 and a Fisher 500C, both very nice units in good condition. Both a little out of my price range, but the sellers might be willing to haggle, so these are both in the running. What's the price on the Marantz? I have a 3300 preamp/control console sitting on a shelf in the basement. No idea what it's worth. Anyone here know anything about BO, other than it's pricey? It's Danish. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
The Marantz owner is asking $425. It's original and in good condition, but as with any piece of equipment of this vintage, it will need a recap to bring it back into spec, for sure. So does this mean I need to furnish my listening room with Ikea stuff? Dan From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Yesterday it was a really nice Marantz 2230 and a Fisher 500C, both very nice units in good condition. Both a little out of my price range, but the sellers might be willing to haggle, so these are both in the running. What's the price on the Marantz? I have a 3300 preamp/control console sitting on a shelf in the basement. No idea what it's worth. Anyone here know anything about BO, other than it's pricey? It's Danish. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And you will have to start wearing black skinny pants and a turtleneck sweater, and smoking cigarettes while holding them in a very European way. And maybe some funny-looking designer spectacles. --R On 8/28/11 4:03 PM, LWB250 wrote: The Marantz owner is asking $425. It's original and in good condition, but as with any piece of equipment of this vintage, it will need a recap to bring it back into spec, for sure. So does this mean I need to furnish my listening room with Ikea stuff? Dan From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Yesterday it was a really nice Marantz 2230 and a Fisher 500C, both very nice units in good condition. Both a little out of my price range, but the sellers might be willing to haggle, so these are both in the running. What's the price on the Marantz? I have a 3300 preamp/control console sitting on a shelf in the basement. No idea what it's worth. Anyone here know anything about BO, other than it's pricey? It's Danish. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have put the word out to the head AV guy in our school district that I want to re-create a vintage stereo system for my new house. I don't have any How vintage? Tube or solid state? Varies a lot. do an LED conversion on the Marantz to get rid of the lamps. Why? I prefer the warm glow of incandescents, and the way they're usually run for panel lighting they last a _long_ time. Anyone here know anything about BO, other than it's pricey? I always thought of them as style over substance. But as they're very _high_ style, their lesser substance might still be quite good, or not; I don't really know. Personally it would not be my first choice. There's no doubt in my mind that the high-end stuff of the 80's (when I was doing my shopping) was stellar, and that if maintained/reconditioned would satisfy any functional need I might have. (I still have my NAD gear, but it's rarely powered on these days.) My first stereo was Hitachi gear, and I slowly upgraded most of it over time. The amp got upgraded to NAD early when the EPI A70 speakers were upgraded to DCM Time Frames, an excellent bang for the buck whose only flaw was limited bass, which a subwoofer (originally used with the A70's) corrects nicely. The subwoofer is operated by my bought-new Richter Scale active crossover, and a half-dead 100W power amp I bought from a roommate. (Didn't need both channels, got it cheap.) Later at the thrift shop I found the Nakamichi tape deck, and a matching NAD tuner. The still-working $850 Kyocera CD player was retired in favor of a Sony rotary CD changer. The garage system, and the one in the music room, are old Luxman receivers. The home theater system is more DCM Time Frames, and DCM bookshelf speakers for sides. All driven by a Sony AV receiver. (Seems I have a lot of Sony. Not my first choice, but the AV receiver was free.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Tune or early solid state. I don't have a preference, really. As long as it's got BIG coupling transformers and no hybrid ICs in it, it would be vintage enough for me. I like both the Marantz and the Fisher, although the Fisher is a tube unit and is a little lower powered than the Marantz. These are definitely what I am looking for - the BO is going to go into one of the guest rooms, as I don't want it as my primary unit. I am familiar with BO, but it's from over 30 years ago. Right after I got out of school I worked for an industrial electronics firm that also had a retail store that dealt in nothing but high end audio - Nakamichi, BO, Marantz, Crown, etc. I saw a lot of the stuff, but never really played with it or looked closely, as it was so far out of my price range I knew I could never afford it. I recall the BO linear turntable - I always thought that was cool. At the time I had a Pioneer rack unit with the whole line of rack mount equipment - power amp, preamp, cassette deck, RT-909 reel to reel, you name it. A lot of it was used stuff from my employer's trade-ins they took for the high end stuff. I still have plans for EV Eliminators and Altec A7s, but I'm not sure I'm going to go that far with speakers. Wasn't someone on here talking about some really nice vintage speakers that were still available for reasonable prices? That's one area I'm going to need some recommendations and opinions, as my previous speakers were spec built by me, based on my learnings from a Purdue University course I audited on audio design. I have the means in the near future to build my own, but I really don't want to get into such an undertaking. Thanks, Dan From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo I have put the word out to the head AV guy in our school district that I want to re-create a vintage stereo system for my new house. I don't have any How vintage? Tube or solid state? Varies a lot. do an LED conversion on the Marantz to get rid of the lamps. Why? I prefer the warm glow of incandescents, and the way they're usually run for panel lighting they last a _long_ time. Anyone here know anything about BO, other than it's pricey? I always thought of them as style over substance. But as they're very _high_ style, their lesser substance might still be quite good, or not; I don't really know. Personally it would not be my first choice. There's no doubt in my mind that the high-end stuff of the 80's (when I was doing my shopping) was stellar, and that if maintained/reconditioned would satisfy any functional need I might have. (I still have my NAD gear, but it's rarely powered on these days.) My first stereo was Hitachi gear, and I slowly upgraded most of it over time. The amp got upgraded to NAD early when the EPI A70 speakers were upgraded to DCM Time Frames, an excellent bang for the buck whose only flaw was limited bass, which a subwoofer (originally used with the A70's) corrects nicely. The subwoofer is operated by my bought-new Richter Scale active crossover, and a half-dead 100W power amp I bought from a roommate. (Didn't need both channels, got it cheap.) Later at the thrift shop I found the Nakamichi tape deck, and a matching NAD tuner. The still-working $850 Kyocera CD player was retired in favor of a Sony rotary CD changer. The garage system, and the one in the music room, are old Luxman receivers. The home theater system is more DCM Time Frames, and DCM bookshelf speakers for sides. All driven by a Sony AV receiver. (Seems I have a lot of Sony. Not my first choice, but the AV receiver was free.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:27 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Wasn't someone on here talking about some really nice vintage speakers that were still available for reasonable prices? I am not exaggerating when I say that my DCM Time Windows, manufactured circa 1985, have changed my life. They've opened up a new level of enjoyment of music for me. Best $100 I've ever spent (or probably ever will). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
LWB250 wrote: Wasn't someone on here talking about some really nice vintage speakers that were still available for reasonable prices? That's one area I'm going to need some recommendations and opinions, as my previous speakers were spec built by me, based on my learnings from a Purdue University course I audited on audio design. I have the means in the near future to build my own, but I really don't want to get into such an undertaking. I always thought these were the best $1000 speakers ever (and made in Ann Arbor): http://search.ebay.com/270807159995 (Note that you can make a short ebay link with search.ebay.com and an item number) Jim Cathey and I use Time Frames because they're thinner and cheaper, but Time Windows were top of the line in their day. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mitch Haley wrote: I always thought these were the best $1000 speakers ever (and made in Ann Arbor): http://search.ebay.com/270807159995 That's out in Larry, esq, territory. I should have given Dan this link: http://search.ebay.com/110734784231 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I always thought these were the best $1000 speakers ever (and made in Ann Arbor): http://search.ebay.com/270807159995 Those look just like mine. SWMBO thinks they are ugly, I tell her to close her eyes and listen. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I always thought these were the best $1000 speakers ever (and made in Ann Arbor): http://search.ebay.com/270807159995 Those look just like mine. SWMBO thinks they are ugly, I tell her to close her eyes and listen. ;) Does she think these are ugly? I'll trade you a pair of my TF275s for your TWs. http://search.ebay.com/270808278265 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://search.ebay.com/270807159995 Those look just like mine. SWMBO thinks they are ugly, I tell her to close her eyes and listen. ;) Does she think these are ugly? I'll trade you a pair of my TF275s for your TWs. http://search.ebay.com/270808278265 I have a pair of those too! (Or an outwardly identical model.) Got them for $100 also. She thinks they're better looking but to my ear they don't sound as good---the treble reproduction is shrill compared to the Time Windows. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Those look like a good deal, especially since the shipping is free. Nice looking speakers, too. How do they sound? Dan From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I always thought these were the best $1000 speakers ever (and made in Ann Arbor): http://search.ebay.com/270807159995 Those look just like mine. SWMBO thinks they are ugly, I tell her to close her eyes and listen. ;) Does she think these are ugly? I'll trade you a pair of my TF275s for your TWs. http://search.ebay.com/270808278265 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Just got a call from my AV buddy - he has a line on some JBL Decade L26 speakers. I remember the sales guys in the electronics place I worked at calling these Advent killers. He said they are in very good condition and in need of nothing. Might be able to score the pair for under $100. Hmm. Dan From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://search.ebay.com/270807159995 Those look just like mine. SWMBO thinks they are ugly, I tell her to close her eyes and listen. ;) Does she think these are ugly? I'll trade you a pair of my TF275s for your TWs. http://search.ebay.com/270808278265 I have a pair of those too! (Or an outwardly identical model.) Got them for $100 also. She thinks they're better looking but to my ear they don't sound as good---the treble reproduction is shrill compared to the Time Windows. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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LWB250 wrote: Anyone here know anything about BO, other than it's pricey? Often odd shapes and user interface, but some mighty fine sounding gear. But I have not heard every piece of there gear. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
LWB250 wrote: Those look like a good deal, especially since the shipping is free. Here's some price history for you: http://www.ebay.com/csc/i.html?_nkw=dcm+time*_sacat=0LH_Complete=1_odkw=dcm+time+frame A set of $200 Time Windows, especially TW-3, would be a good deal if all the drivers/crossovers are still functional. How far away is Deltona? At least you probably have the ability to rebuild a failed crossover, but those Phillips woofers aren't all that reliable either, and they're becoming hard to find used, and impossible to get new. I wouldn't pay $200 for Time Frames myself, I've got about $80 plus maybe 6 gallons of gas invested in four TF275s. Two separate eBay purchases about a year apart, the first just over $40, the second just under $40. What he's asking is half of original MSRP for 20 year old speakers. The original owner probably paid $300-400 for them. Time Frames below TF500 don't seem to sell for real money. I have seen people asking north of $200 for 500/600/700s, I forget which of those are supposed to sound the best. The 250/275/350/400 were all budget stuff, under $500/pair when new. Most TFs use the same woofers/tweeters as TWs, but don't have the same 'presence'. These are a better deal than the 350s: http://search.ebay.com/220841215856 Florida, Michigan, Texas and California seem to account for 2/3 of the better DCM speakers I see on eBay. I never understood why Florida, they've got more DCM auctions than Michigan, and the factory was up here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
LWB250 wrote: Just got a call from my AV buddy - he has a line on some JBL Decade L26 speakers. Wow, people pay $100 a pair for woofers out of those. Funny thing is they also pay $100-200 for the whole speakers. http://search.ebay.com/400237663247 http://www.ebay.com/csc/i.html?_nkw=JBL+L26+_sacat=0LH_Complete=1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
He said $95 and they're mine. They're from an estate sale, the surrounds and grilles are in mint condition, and the cabinets each have a small area where the finish has some wear on it. That's an easy fix for me, since I have done furniture for years. I'm going to go look at them tomorrow. Dan From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo LWB250 wrote: Just got a call from my AV buddy - he has a line on some JBL Decade L26 speakers. Wow, people pay $100 a pair for woofers out of those. Funny thing is they also pay $100-200 for the whole speakers. http://search.ebay.com/400237663247 http://www.ebay.com/csc/i.html?_nkw=JBL+L26+_sacat=0LH_Complete=1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
LWB250 wrote: He said $95 and they're mine. They're from an estate sale, the surrounds and grilles are in mint condition, and the cabinets each have a small area where the finish has some wear on it. That's an easy fix for me, since I have done furniture for years. I'm going to go look at them tomorrow. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105954 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan wrote: I remember the sales guys in the electronics place I worked at calling these Advent killers. I finally bought myself some advents - I always wanted advent since early '70's I have no idea how old these are - but they do alright... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mitch Haley wrote: Jim Cathey and I use Time Frames because they're thinner and cheaper, but Time Windows were top of the line in their day. Here's a decent review of them. http://www.epinions.com/review/DCM_Time_Windows_epi/content_511587618436 -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
I am not exaggerating when I say that my DCM Time Windows... Best $100 I've ever spent (or probably ever will). Buddy of mine has Magneplanar speakers, very little will beat them for quality of sound. But they are very fussy about installation, and really require much room behind them. (Not rockers/rappers, just very accurate sound reproduction.) I remember that the TW's were very good when they were au courant, but beyond my budget at the time. My TF500's were about $500 new, and were only beaten by speaks costing about 2x that and up, of what I could audition. I followed the rule of thumb of spending half the sound budget on speakers, half of what remained on turntable/cartridge, and the rest on the electronics. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
