Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
The coefficient of expansion for water is 207E-6/degC at 20C. Not really sure that your proposed reason/guess is correct. Actually, I am sure it is incorrect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_expansion --R On 5/26/12 10:16 PM, Fmiser wrote: Brian Toscano wrote: Wouldn't that support the theory that the return hose should be larger? The return hose is 5/8 and the supply is 11/16. Oh. Uh. I can read. I guess just not very well. U. Because the water will have been cooled, and so is more dense? -- Philip, now just guessing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com writes: Thanks for the suggestion. Looks like heater supply, heater return, upper radiator, and lower radiator hoses will set me back about $110 plus shipping and tax. I'm not sure what Rusty could do. Check rockauto.com. Not to take anything away from Rusty; I certainly would not buy MB parts there, but for Detroit stuff they seem to have astonishing prices. I found stuff for my Focus there that was significantly cheaper than the same parts on WorldPac sites. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these hoses. I will just pay for the dealer hoses and eliminate the extra fitting. I also noticed that the return line is 5/8 but the supply line is 11/16. I'm not sure why they made the return line 1/16 bigger. I have been reading that hoses these days last a lot longer than the hoses of yesteryear and it is because of the newer materials used in the hose. Thanks, Brian On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: So 15 years with Prestone Green and 45-75 years with MB coolant? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: With the modern coolants, a long time. With green crap a few years. Same as a Benz. Peter On May 7, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: How long do cooling system hoses last on American cars? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: Better be they supply most of the hoses for the US manufactures. According the my guy at the Local FAPS. On 5/7/2012 16:14, Brian Toscano wrote: Thanks for another idea. Is Goodyear hose any good? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Russ Williamsrawil...@eatel.net wrote: Brian Try Rock Auto, is this the one you need? http://www.rockauto.com/**catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=**1333823http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823 http://www.rockauto.**com/**catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823http://www.rockauto.com/**catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=**1333823 http://www.rockauto.**com/**catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823 http://www.rockauto.**com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=**1333823http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823 Russ W. On 5/6/2012 21:47, Brian Toscano wrote: Quadratec and others only have the upper and lower radiator hoses (which are also still available from the dealer). Its the lines to/from the heater core that I'm having trouble finding. 2001 Jeep Cherokee (XJ). On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Peter Frederickpsf...@earthlink.net ** wrote: What model Jeep? Try some of the aftermarket custom houses, they are more likely than McParts to have them. Quadtrack is good, there are others. Peter On May 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.** com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http://www.okiebenz. com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_* ***http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/** listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/**listinfo/mercedes_ okiebenzhttp://okiebenz.com/**mailman/**listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz . **comhttp://mail.okiebenz.**com/**mailman/listinfo/** mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_**http://okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.**com/mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/** mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
I'm glad I replaced my buddy's hoses last year. He blew an upper hose, and I suggested he do all of them, and they were all going. 98 Cherokee, looked original, so that's not too bad, but if he'd waited we'd have been in your position. Peter On May 26, 2012, at 4:54 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these hoses. I will just pay for the dealer hoses and eliminate the extra fitting. I also noticed that the return line is 5/8 but the supply line is 11/16. I'm not sure why they made the return line 1/16 bigger. I have been reading that hoses these days last a lot longer than the hoses of yesteryear and it is because of the newer materials used in the hose. Thanks, Brian On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: So 15 years with Prestone Green and 45-75 years with MB coolant? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: With the modern coolants, a long time. With green crap a few years. Same as a Benz. Peter On May 7, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: How long do cooling system hoses last on American cars? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: Better be they supply most of the hoses for the US manufactures. According the my guy at the Local FAPS. On 5/7/2012 16:14, Brian Toscano wrote: Thanks for another idea. Is Goodyear hose any good? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Russ Williamsrawil...@eatel.net wrote: Brian Try Rock Auto, is this the one you need? http://www.rockauto.com/**catalog/moreinfo.php? pk=**1333823http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/ moreinfo.php?pk=1333823 http://www.rockauto.**com/**catalog/moreinfo.php? pk=1333823http://www.rockauto.com/**catalog/moreinfo.php? pk=**1333823 http://www.rockauto.**com/**catalog/moreinfo.php? pk=1333823 http://www.rockauto.**com/catalog/moreinfo.php? pk=**1333823http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php? pk=1333823 Russ W. On 5/6/2012 21:47, Brian Toscano wrote: Quadratec and others only have the upper and lower radiator hoses (which are also still available from the dealer). Its the lines to/ from the heater core that I'm having trouble finding. 2001 Jeep Cherokee (XJ). On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Peter Frederickpsf...@earthlink.net ** wrote: What model Jeep? Try some of the aftermarket custom houses, they are more likely than McParts to have them. Quadtrack is good, there are others. Peter On May 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/ archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http:// www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http:// www.okiebenz.** com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http:// www.okiebenz. com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http:// www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_* ***http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/** listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp:// mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/**listinfo/ mercedes_ okiebenzhttp://okiebenz.com/**mailman/**listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz . **comhttp://mail.okiebenz.**com/**mailman/listinfo/** mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/ listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ **mercedes_**http://okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/ **mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.**com/mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ **mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_**
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
On Sat, 26 May 2012 15:54:38 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these hoses. Call Rusty at 1-800-741-5252 and give him the part numbers. Maybe he can get them for you (and probably for less, too). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
I've had better luck with Goodyear hoses; they fit MUCH better than the gates ones, and look spot-on compared to dealer hoses. Gates pre-formed hoses for some applications were off even 20 years ago (IIRC, upper radiator hose for an 82 Ford LTD (midsize, not fullsize), 3800 V6.) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 26, 2012, at 18:08, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 15:54:38 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these hoses. Call Rusty at 1-800-741-5252 and give him the part numbers. Maybe he can get them for you (and probably for less, too). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
Peter, Where did you get the hoses? I'm doing this as preventative maintenance. John, I don't know where you can get Goodyear hoses? Craig, Thanks for the suggestion. Looks like heater supply, heater return, upper radiator, and lower radiator hoses will set me back about $110 plus shipping and tax. I'm not sure what Rusty could do. Brian On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:37 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I've had better luck with Goodyear hoses; they fit MUCH better than the gates ones, and look spot-on compared to dealer hoses. Gates pre-formed hoses for some applications were off even 20 years ago (IIRC, upper radiator hose for an 82 Ford LTD (midsize, not fullsize), 3800 V6.) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 26, 2012, at 18:08, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 15:54:38 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these hoses. Call Rusty at 1-800-741-5252 and give him the part numbers. Maybe he can get them for you (and probably for less, too). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
O'Reillys had them last summer, on the shelf. I didn't buy them, though, so they might have come from somewhere else, but they were not special order. Peter On May 26, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Peter, Where did you get the hoses? I'm doing this as preventative maintenance. John, I don't know where you can get Goodyear hoses? Craig, Thanks for the suggestion. Looks like heater supply, heater return, upper radiator, and lower radiator hoses will set me back about $110 plus shipping and tax. I'm not sure what Rusty could do. Brian On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:37 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I've had better luck with Goodyear hoses; they fit MUCH better than the gates ones, and look spot-on compared to dealer hoses. Gates pre-formed hoses for some applications were off even 20 years ago (IIRC, upper radiator hose for an 82 Ford LTD (midsize, not fullsize), 3800 V6.) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 26, 2012, at 18:08, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 15:54:38 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these hoses. Call Rusty at 1-800-741-5252 and give him the part numbers. Maybe he can get them for you (and probably for less, too). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
O'Reilly's is where I stopped today. They normally carry Gates hoses. They did not have the heater hoses I was looking for in stock. Did the heater supply and return lines that you installed fit perfectly? Thanks, Brian On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: O'Reillys had them last summer, on the shelf. I didn't buy them, though, so they might have come from somewhere else, but they were not special order. Peter On May 26, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Peter, Where did you get the hoses? I'm doing this as preventative maintenance. John, I don't know where you can get Goodyear hoses? Craig, Thanks for the suggestion. Looks like heater supply, heater return, upper radiator, and lower radiator hoses will set me back about $110 plus shipping and tax. I'm not sure what Rusty could do. Brian On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:37 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I've had better luck with Goodyear hoses; they fit MUCH better than the gates ones, and look spot-on compared to dealer hoses. Gates pre-formed hoses for some applications were off even 20 years ago (IIRC, upper radiator hose for an 82 Ford LTD (midsize, not fullsize), 3800 V6.) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 26, 2012, at 18:08, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 15:54:38 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these hoses. Call Rusty at 1-800-741-5252 and give him the part numbers. Maybe he can get them for you (and probably for less, too). Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
Yup, but that was almost a year ago. Could have been from Napa or AutoZone, too, as I said, I didn't buy them, just helped my buddy install them. peter On May 26, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: O'Reilly's is where I stopped today. They normally carry Gates hoses. They did not have the heater hoses I was looking for in stock. Did the heater supply and return lines that you installed fit perfectly? Thanks, Brian On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: O'Reillys had them last summer, on the shelf. I didn't buy them, though, so they might have come from somewhere else, but they were not special order. Peter On May 26, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Peter, Where did you get the hoses? I'm doing this as preventative maintenance. John, I don't know where you can get Goodyear hoses? Craig, Thanks for the suggestion. Looks like heater supply, heater return, upper radiator, and lower radiator hoses will set me back about $110 plus shipping and tax. I'm not sure what Rusty could do. Brian On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:37 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I've had better luck with Goodyear hoses; they fit MUCH better than the gates ones, and look spot-on compared to dealer hoses. Gates pre-formed hoses for some applications were off even 20 years ago (IIRC, upper radiator hose for an 82 Ford LTD (midsize, not fullsize), 3800 V6.) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 26, 2012, at 18:08, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 15:54:38 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these hoses. Call Rusty at 1-800-741-5252 and give him the part numbers. Maybe he can get them for you (and probably for less, too). Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/ listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/ listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http:// www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http:// www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
Brian Toscano wrote: I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these hoses. I will just pay for the dealer hoses and eliminate the extra fitting. I also noticed that the return line is 5/8 but the supply line is 11/16. I'm not sure why they made the return line 1/16 bigger. After the resistance of flowing through the heater core, a lower resistance hose allows it to flow at the same rate as the higher pressure inlet hose. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wouldn't that support the theory that the return hose should be larger? The return hose is 5/8 and the supply is 11/16. On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Brian Toscano wrote: I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these hoses. I will just pay for the dealer hoses and eliminate the extra fitting. I also noticed that the return line is 5/8 but the supply line is 11/16. I'm not sure why they made the return line 1/16 bigger. After the resistance of flowing through the heater core, a lower resistance hose allows it to flow at the same rate as the higher pressure inlet hose. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
The supply is hotter and less dense, the water shrinks going through the heater core. Peter On May 26, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Wouldn't that support the theory that the return hose should be larger? The return hose is 5/8 and the supply is 11/16. On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Brian Toscano wrote: I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these hoses. I will just pay for the dealer hoses and eliminate the extra fitting. I also noticed that the return line is 5/8 but the supply line is 11/16. I'm not sure why they made the return line 1/16 bigger. After the resistance of flowing through the heater core, a lower resistance hose allows it to flow at the same rate as the higher pressure inlet hose. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Brian Toscano wrote: Wouldn't that support the theory that the return hose should be larger? The return hose is 5/8 and the supply is 11/16. Oh. Uh. I can read. I guess just not very well. U. Because the water will have been cooled, and so is more dense? -- Philip, now just guessing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You can find pretty much anything you want as far as size/length/flexible/molded at NAPA. Just be sure to go to one that has a lot of delivery trucks. That means the bulk of their business is commercial. Dan On May 6, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Mcparts is fine, i have a 8 foot length of their fuel line serving as a power steering return line on my other car, and the heater hose holds up to green death just fine. Walt On May 6, 2012 10:32 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I suspect they don't offer molded hoses because every FLAPS carries heater hose... My local FLAPS will cut to length for me, they sell heater hose by the inch. -Curt Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 22:38:25 -0400 From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses Message-ID: cad5mqpgnnqvkd7v10v2x-af-q4xjvrv8+gm74dv3oqtpalu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mcparts is fine, i have a 8 foot length of their fuel line serving as a power steering return line on my other car, and the heater hose holds up to green death just fine. Walt On May 6, 2012 10:32 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I will check NAPA next. Molded hoses would look nicer and for the hose that goes to the thermostat housing, would make the final bend to the housing nicer. Thanks for the suggestions. Brian On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I suspect they don't offer molded hoses because every FLAPS carries heater hose... My local FLAPS will cut to length for me, they sell heater hose by the inch. -Curt Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 22:38:25 -0400 From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses Message-ID: cad5mqpgnnqvkd7v10v2x-af-q4xjvrv8+gm74dv3oqtpalu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mcparts is fine, i have a 8 foot length of their fuel line serving as a power steering return line on my other car, and the heater hose holds up to green death just fine. Walt On May 6, 2012 10:32 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I suspect they don't offer molded hoses because every FLAPS carries heater hose... But in so many modern cars where the engine is a tight squeeze under the hood (and in a lot of older cars too) the typical generic hose that comes off a big reel at FLAPS won't do it, because the bends are too sharp. The hose is flexible enough to handle gentle radius bends, but too tight a bend and it kinks. What's needed is generic hose premolded with a variety of bends at different angles, and standardized fittings to join one piece to another, kind of like exhaust or PVC pipe. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Alex Chamberlain wrote: What's needed is generic hose premolded with a variety of bends at different angles, and standardized fittings to join one piece to another, kind of like exhaust or PVC pipe. I believe that all you need are 45/90/180 degree bends, straight hose, and a handful of hose barb union fittings. FLAPS should have the bends, at least the 45s and 90s, if only you can get the counter monkey to move past entering your make and model into a computer and saying 'we don't have one of those'. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Talk about ugly! On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: What's needed is generic hose premolded with a variety of bends at different angles, and standardized fittings to join one piece to another, kind of like exhaust or PVC pipe. I believe that all you need are 45/90/180 degree bends, straight hose, and a handful of hose barb union fittings. FLAPS should have the bends, at least the 45s and 90s, if only you can get the counter monkey to move past entering your make and model into a computer and saying 'we don't have one of those'. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Brian Try Rock Auto, is this the one you need? http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823 Russ W. On 5/6/2012 21:47, Brian Toscano wrote: Quadratec and others only have the upper and lower radiator hoses (which are also still available from the dealer). Its the lines to/from the heater core that I'm having trouble finding. 2001 Jeep Cherokee (XJ). On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Peter Frederickpsf...@earthlink.netwrote: What model Jeep? Try some of the aftermarket custom houses, they are more likely than McParts to have them. Quadtrack is good, there are others. Peter On May 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4982 - Release Date: 05/06/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks for another idea. Is Goodyear hose any good? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: Brian Try Rock Auto, is this the one you need? http://www.rockauto.com/**catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=**1333823http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823 Russ W. On 5/6/2012 21:47, Brian Toscano wrote: Quadratec and others only have the upper and lower radiator hoses (which are also still available from the dealer). Its the lines to/from the heater core that I'm having trouble finding. 2001 Jeep Cherokee (XJ). On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Peter Frederickpsf...@earthlink.net** wrote: What model Jeep? Try some of the aftermarket custom houses, they are more likely than McParts to have them. Quadtrack is good, there are others. Peter On May 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4982 - Release Date: 05/06/12 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Better be they supply most of the hoses for the US manufactures. According the my guy at the Local FAPS. On 5/7/2012 16:14, Brian Toscano wrote: Thanks for another idea. Is Goodyear hose any good? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Russ Williamsrawil...@eatel.net wrote: Brian Try Rock Auto, is this the one you need? http://www.rockauto.com/**catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=**1333823http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823 Russ W. On 5/6/2012 21:47, Brian Toscano wrote: Quadratec and others only have the upper and lower radiator hoses (which are also still available from the dealer). Its the lines to/from the heater core that I'm having trouble finding. 2001 Jeep Cherokee (XJ). On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Peter Frederickpsf...@earthlink.net** wrote: What model Jeep? Try some of the aftermarket custom houses, they are more likely than McParts to have them. Quadtrack is good, there are others. Peter On May 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4982 - Release Date: 05/06/12 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4983 - Release Date: 05/07/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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How long do cooling system hoses last on American cars? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: Better be they supply most of the hoses for the US manufactures. According the my guy at the Local FAPS. On 5/7/2012 16:14, Brian Toscano wrote: Thanks for another idea. Is Goodyear hose any good? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Russ Williamsrawil...@eatel.net wrote: Brian Try Rock Auto, is this the one you need? http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823http://www.rockauto.com/**catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=**1333823 http://www.rockauto.**com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=**1333823http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823 Russ W. On 5/6/2012 21:47, Brian Toscano wrote: Quadratec and others only have the upper and lower radiator hoses (which are also still available from the dealer). Its the lines to/from the heater core that I'm having trouble finding. 2001 Jeep Cherokee (XJ). On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Peter Frederickpsf...@earthlink.net** ** wrote: What model Jeep? Try some of the aftermarket custom houses, they are more likely than McParts to have them. Quadtrack is good, there are others. Peter On May 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.** com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/**listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz. **comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.** com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/**listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.* *comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4982 - Release Date: 05/06/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
With the modern coolants, a long time. With green crap a few years. Same as a Benz. Peter On May 7, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: How long do cooling system hoses last on American cars? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: Better be they supply most of the hoses for the US manufactures. According the my guy at the Local FAPS. On 5/7/2012 16:14, Brian Toscano wrote: Thanks for another idea. Is Goodyear hose any good? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Russ Williamsrawil...@eatel.net wrote: Brian Try Rock Auto, is this the one you need? http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php? pk=1333823http://www.rockauto.com/**catalog/moreinfo.php? pk=**1333823 http://www.rockauto.**com/catalog/moreinfo.php? pk=**1333823http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php? pk=1333823 Russ W. On 5/6/2012 21:47, Brian Toscano wrote: Quadratec and others only have the upper and lower radiator hoses (which are also still available from the dealer). Its the lines to/ from the heater core that I'm having trouble finding. 2001 Jeep Cherokee (XJ). On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Peter Frederickpsf...@earthlink.net** ** wrote: What model Jeep? Try some of the aftermarket custom houses, they are more likely than McParts to have them. Quadtrack is good, there are others. Peter On May 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/ **archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.** com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/**listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz. **comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ **mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ **mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/ listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/ **archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.** com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/**listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz.* *comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ **mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ **mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/ listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/ archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/ listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ **mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/ listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4982 - Release Date: 05/06/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
So 15 years with Prestone Green and 45-75 years with MB coolant? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: With the modern coolants, a long time. With green crap a few years. Same as a Benz. Peter On May 7, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: How long do cooling system hoses last on American cars? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: Better be they supply most of the hoses for the US manufactures. According the my guy at the Local FAPS. On 5/7/2012 16:14, Brian Toscano wrote: Thanks for another idea. Is Goodyear hose any good? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Russ Williamsrawil...@eatel.net wrote: Brian Try Rock Auto, is this the one you need? http://www.rockauto.com/**catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=**1333823http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823 http://www.rockauto.**com/**catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823http://www.rockauto.com/**catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=**1333823 http://www.rockauto.**com/**catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823 http://www.rockauto.**com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=**1333823http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823 Russ W. On 5/6/2012 21:47, Brian Toscano wrote: Quadratec and others only have the upper and lower radiator hoses (which are also still available from the dealer). Its the lines to/from the heater core that I'm having trouble finding. 2001 Jeep Cherokee (XJ). On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Peter Frederickpsf...@earthlink.net* *** ** wrote: What model Jeep? Try some of the aftermarket custom houses, they are more likely than McParts to have them. Quadtrack is good, there are others. Peter On May 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.** com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http://www.okiebenz. com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/** listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/**listinfo/mercedes_ okiebenzhttp://okiebenz.com/**mailman/**listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz . **comhttp://mail.okiebenz.**com/**mailman/listinfo/** mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_**http://okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.**com/mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/** mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.** com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/http://www.okiebenz. com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/**
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Mcparts is fine, i have a 8 foot length of their fuel line serving as a power steering return line on my other car, and the heater hose holds up to green death just fine. Walt On May 6, 2012 10:32 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
What model Jeep? Try some of the aftermarket custom houses, they are more likely than McParts to have them. Quadtrack is good, there are others. Peter On May 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses
Quadratec and others only have the upper and lower radiator hoses (which are also still available from the dealer). Its the lines to/from the heater core that I'm having trouble finding. 2001 Jeep Cherokee (XJ). On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: What model Jeep? Try some of the aftermarket custom houses, they are more likely than McParts to have them. Quadtrack is good, there are others. Peter On May 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^)) What is the best source for heater hoses? Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines. Is McParts rubber good enough or can I do better? Thanks, Brian __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
