Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
On 2020-12-01 20:01, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote: Not that I am on the road with the current plague, but the MacBook traveled well, unlike toting the Mac Pro. The only time I ever flew commercial, it was with my 6.3lb G72, a TomTom GPS, a license plate, some tools, and some clothes, all in a 17" Swiss Gear attache case. Toting the G72 is like toting a couple of 1911 pistols with spare magazines. Toting it with my 'drive a car home from flying distance' necessities wasn't much worse. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
Not that I am on the road with the current plague, but the MacBook traveled well, unlike toting the Mac Pro. Clay inter urinas et faeces nascimur > On Dec 1, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >> maybe I'll get a desktop and try that again. > > Yeah, it's not too mobile. But the 30" monitor that I'm using right > now on the desktop is nice, nice, nice. And the tower computer > doesn't even get warm and is quiet, unlike what a laptop would > be doing under similar circumstances. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
On my ThinkPads, I just set the preference for "longest battery life" and leave them plugged in most of the time. The batteries seem to last forever showing 95-100% charge unless I'm using it somewhere without an outlet. I get a couple of hours on my W530. Greg > On 2020-12-01 11:43, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 10:37 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> I wish I knew a way to >>> tell it to charge the battery 70% and stop. >>> >> >> Time how long it takes to get to 70%, then plug it into a lamp timer >> that >> will only power it that long. > > At which point the battery runs down to 30% and the machine goes into > hibernation. > I want it to stop charging and stay at an ideal state of charge while > the machine is in use. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
That's what I like about my Mac pro, the trashcan is a lame design for a workstation but it's a great home computer. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 1:47 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > maybe I'll get a desktop and try that again. Yeah, it's not too mobile. But the 30" monitor that I'm using right now on the desktop is nice, nice, nice. And the tower computer doesn't even get warm and is quiet, unlike what a laptop would be doing under similar circumstances. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
> maybe I'll get a desktop and try that again. Yeah, it's not too mobile. But the 30" monitor that I'm using right now on the desktop is nice, nice, nice. And the tower computer doesn't even get warm and is quiet, unlike what a laptop would be doing under similar circumstances. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
We rarely move the laptop around, mostly it sits on either the dining room table or the kitchen table. I've taken that machine out of the house for use maybe twice in two years, so an occasional awkard load is OK. Why don't I get a desktop and nice monitors? Well we've had that set up too, and having the ability to be mobile in the house or occasionally out of the house is desired. If I get a third machine (three users in the house now) then maybe I'll get a desktop and try that again. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 11:21 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You’ll most likely regret a 17” unless you’re using it for viewing DVDs or > streaming content. It’s a beast to carry around and transport. > > -D > > > On Dec 1, 2020, at 11:08 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > On 2020-11-30 20:42, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > >> Yes they did, yes I bought one, and yes I was able to mount a second > >> drive (m.2 SSD, $50 for a Crucial 500GB version). > > > > I will put something like a WD Blue 1TB ($90 last weekend) in mine > later, but it doesn't have a platter drive bay like yours does so I need a > roomy SSD. > > > > I may get a 17" next Thanksgiving. I can probably sell the $400 one for > a profit, and never be out of warranty. > > I really like a 17" screen (but plugging it into a 27" panel is more > better, and 99% of the time it's used at home), a DVD is somewhat important > to me (but a USB DVD is OK), and two drives inside the machine is really, > really nice. Just a few mouse clicks to back up files. > > > > On Black Friday, the top deal on the planet according to SlickDeals was > the Pavilion 15Z with AMD 4700, and every 17" I configured was $150-200 > more for similar specs. > > > > After I bought it, I discovered the latest PCIe spec is PCIe4, and my > high end CPU, introduced in the winter of 2020, has a PCIe3 interface, > limited to 3GB/s. That's 10x as fast as the SATA in my old laptop, but some > PCIe4 drives can hit 5GB/s. OTOH, PCIe4 drives tend to draw a lot more > power. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
On 2020-12-01 11:43, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 10:37 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I wish I knew a way to tell it to charge the battery 70% and stop. Time how long it takes to get to 70%, then plug it into a lamp timer that will only power it that long. At which point the battery runs down to 30% and the machine goes into hibernation. I want it to stop charging and stay at an ideal state of charge while the machine is in use. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 10:37 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I wish I knew a way to > tell it to charge the battery 70% and stop. > Time how long it takes to get to 70%, then plug it into a lamp timer that will only power it that long. Old school, mechanical - the 240D of charging controllers. -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
On 2020-12-01 10:21, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: You’ll most likely regret a 17” unless you’re using it for viewing DVDs or streaming content. It’s a beast to carry around and transport. I've only had two laptops that I really used on a day to day basis. The first was my Zenith MiniSport back in the 1990s, the second was my 17" HP G72 that I bought nearly ten years ago and is getting worn out, but I'm typing this email with it on my lap, broken lid hinge and all. (the hinge failing in June changed my shopping from "I'm gonna buy a new one this year" to "I have to buy a new one this year"). Most of the time, the G72 just sits on my desk. I wish I knew a way to tell it to charge the battery 70% and stop. By the end of the year the G72 will be out of service, unless I end up using it for a network hub. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
You’ll most likely regret a 17” unless you’re using it for viewing DVDs or streaming content. It’s a beast to carry around and transport. -D > On Dec 1, 2020, at 11:08 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2020-11-30 20:42, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: >> Yes they did, yes I bought one, and yes I was able to mount a second >> drive (m.2 SSD, $50 for a Crucial 500GB version). > > I will put something like a WD Blue 1TB ($90 last weekend) in mine later, but > it doesn't have a platter drive bay like yours does so I need a roomy SSD. > > I may get a 17" next Thanksgiving. I can probably sell the $400 one for a > profit, and never be out of warranty. > I really like a 17" screen (but plugging it into a 27" panel is more better, > and 99% of the time it's used at home), a DVD is somewhat important to me > (but a USB DVD is OK), and two drives inside the machine is really, really > nice. Just a few mouse clicks to back up files. > > On Black Friday, the top deal on the planet according to SlickDeals was the > Pavilion 15Z with AMD 4700, and every 17" I configured was $150-200 more for > similar specs. > > After I bought it, I discovered the latest PCIe spec is PCIe4, and my high > end CPU, introduced in the winter of 2020, has a PCIe3 interface, limited to > 3GB/s. That's 10x as fast as the SATA in my old laptop, but some PCIe4 drives > can hit 5GB/s. OTOH, PCIe4 drives tend to draw a lot more power. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
On 2020-11-30 20:42, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Yes they did, yes I bought one, and yes I was able to mount a second drive (m.2 SSD, $50 for a Crucial 500GB version). I will put something like a WD Blue 1TB ($90 last weekend) in mine later, but it doesn't have a platter drive bay like yours does so I need a roomy SSD. I may get a 17" next Thanksgiving. I can probably sell the $400 one for a profit, and never be out of warranty. I really like a 17" screen (but plugging it into a 27" panel is more better, and 99% of the time it's used at home), a DVD is somewhat important to me (but a USB DVD is OK), and two drives inside the machine is really, really nice. Just a few mouse clicks to back up files. On Black Friday, the top deal on the planet according to SlickDeals was the Pavilion 15Z with AMD 4700, and every 17" I configured was $150-200 more for similar specs. After I bought it, I discovered the latest PCIe spec is PCIe4, and my high end CPU, introduced in the winter of 2020, has a PCIe3 interface, limited to 3GB/s. That's 10x as fast as the SATA in my old laptop, but some PCIe4 drives can hit 5GB/s. OTOH, PCIe4 drives tend to draw a lot more power. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
Yes they did, yes I bought one, and yes I was able to mount a second drive (m.2 SSD, $50 for a Crucial 500GB version). Touch screen would be more better. I'm very happy with the speed of the i5 processor and 12GB of RAM. Oh well, I didn't see any point in waiting but patience is a virtue... Max Dillon Charleston SC Nov 30, 2020 7:15:47 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes : > Max, did Costco have the $480 laptop in warehouse? > This one's faster, $400 with touchscreen, $440 with 1080p. > https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-laptop-17z-5nv50av-1 > > On 2020-11-27 13:00, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > >> Costco no longer offer this on their website, but my local store had 16 in >> stock a couple days ago, I think I'm going to get one today, on sale for >> $480. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
Max, did Costco have the $480 laptop in warehouse? This one's faster, $400 with touchscreen, $440 with 1080p. https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-laptop-17z-5nv50av-1 On 2020-11-27 13:00, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Costco no longer offer this on their website, but my local store had 16 in stock a couple days ago, I think I'm going to get one today, on sale for $480. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops
Costco seems to do this a lot. Same thing with their "special offers" on major appliances, e.g. dishwashers. On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 2:01 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Mitch had provided a link earlier to Costco's sale on this laptop: > > https://www.newegg.com/aluminum-silver-hp-17-by2053cl/p/1TS-000D-0CA13 > > Costco no longer offer this on their website, but my local store had 16 in > stock a couple days ago, I think I'm going to get one today, on sale for > $480. > > Found a u-tuber video of a similar model being upgraded from the 1TB HDD to > add an M.2 drive, and then move the OS over to the M.2 drive so the 1TB HDD > is only used for user data storage. > > I'm thinking about getting this laptop, and then opening it up to confirm > that the M.2 drive socket is present and that the BIOS will support adding > the second drive. > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
