Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

2021-03-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-03-02 20:20, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

2012 Chevy Volt

148,575 miles
Non-smoker owned, comes with a 240v charger.


I wonder how good the level 2 charger is.
They come with level 1 (120v) chargers.

I don't recall how the first gen perform, everybody seems to like the 
2nd gen, even know a couple of guys who switched from 2G Cruzes to 2G 
Volts, but on paper it's hard to justify the 2G, because the Volt is 
much heavier, noticeably slower, and you'd never make up the (new) price 
difference in 200kmi of mostly battery driving.


Apparently they're still cheap around here, just wait until regular gas 
hits $3+ and stays there and maybe they'll be worth something.


https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=575918979

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=569837743

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=575845072

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=573629683

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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

2021-03-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
2012 Chevy Volt 

148,575 miles
Non-smoker owned, comes with a 240v charger. The car rides and drives great, 
you’ll be hard pressed to find a car that’s cheaper to operate than this one.
No mechanical issues
Some paint chips in bumper and hood
$6,000 no trades

> On Mar 2, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just got home 20 minutes ago, but too facebook proof to look at it, what is 
> it?
> 
> On 2021-03-02 19:37, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> He’s probably too busy to look at this since it’s tax season, but...
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/3811685978910690/?sale_post_id=3811685978910690
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

2021-03-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Just got home 20 minutes ago, but too facebook proof to look at it, what 
is it?


On 2021-03-02 19:37, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

He’s probably too busy to look at this since it’s tax season, but...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/3811685978910690/?sale_post_id=3811685978910690

-D
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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

2020-04-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Attractive and unusual red exterior/white interior.  Usually the reverse.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:17 AM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
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> If I didn't already have too many cars I might buy this for a beater.
>
> https://www.copart.com/lot/33508190
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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

2020-04-03 Thread Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
If I didn't already have too many cars I might buy this for a beater.

https://www.copart.com/lot/33508190

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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

2020-04-02 Thread Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
On Thu, April 2, 2020 11:08 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Yeah, I think I’ll pass:
>
>
> GM LEMON LAW BUY BACK VEHICLE

Don't know about Volts, but most of the Spark buybacks were "customer
doesn't like driving an EV so we bought it back when we got tired of
his/her bitching".

It's probably more likely with a Volt that there was something wrong that
the dealer tech couldn't find. GM then thought they fixed it and put it
back on the market. How much do you trust the GM tech center?

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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

2020-04-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, I think I’ll pass:

GM LEMON LAW BUY BACK VEHICLE

-D

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 10:33 AM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, April 2, 2020 9:05 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> What does a nice 2017 Volt go for?
> 
> Looks like 300-350% of the Jalopnik car.
> https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=546315578
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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

2020-04-02 Thread Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
On Thu, April 2, 2020 9:05 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> What does a nice 2017 Volt go for?

Looks like 300-350% of the Jalopnik car.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=546315578

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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

2020-04-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
What does a nice 2017 Volt go for?

-D

> On Apr 1, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd want them to hand it over fully charged for a test drive.
> Then I'd put it in EV mode, drive it 25 miles, and see how many kWh the
> dash display thought I'd used and what percent was left. From that info
> you can calculate a reasonable estimate of current battery capacity.
> 
> Then you can decide whether a nicely appointed overweight Cruze that
> doesn't need gas is worth as much as a nicely appointed and less
> overweight diesel Cruze, for I think a 140k 2014 diesel is worth about 6k
> also.
> 
> That said, I'd rather have a 2017 Volt for the same reasons I'd rather
> have a 2017 Cruze. But you're not buying a clean 2017 Volt for $6k.
> 
> 
> On Wed, April 1, 2020 4:58 pm, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> 78 percent say it's a nice price.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

2020-04-01 Thread Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
I'd want them to hand it over fully charged for a test drive.
Then I'd put it in EV mode, drive it 25 miles, and see how many kWh the
dash display thought I'd used and what percent was left. From that info
you can calculate a reasonable estimate of current battery capacity.

Then you can decide whether a nicely appointed overweight Cruze that
doesn't need gas is worth as much as a nicely appointed and less
overweight diesel Cruze, for I think a 140k 2014 diesel is worth about 6k
also.

That said, I'd rather have a 2017 Volt for the same reasons I'd rather
have a 2017 Cruze. But you're not buying a clean 2017 Volt for $6k.


On Wed, April 1, 2020 4:58 pm, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> 78 percent say it's a nice price.


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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

2020-04-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
78 percent say it's a nice price.

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> https://jalopnik.com/at-6-200-would-you-plug-into-this-2012-chevy-volt-pre-1842583908
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