Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Mike Canfield]

My PC is like that sometimes.Yeah that's the one.  Didn't remember the 
name.


Mike
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Weird.  It works for me.  It's a TailGator 2-stroke gasoline-powered
blender.  It has a 2.5 horsepower 2-stroke engine.


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Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

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Mike Canfield wrote:
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Weird.  It works for me.  It's a TailGator 2-stroke gasoline-powered
blender.  It has a 2.5 horsepower 2-stroke engine.

Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Mike Canfield]

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Mike Canfield wrote:

OK I have seen a Reese hitch mounted, gasoline powered blender..Works
well.


Something like this?
http://www.cabelas.com/products/Cpod0005934.jsp


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Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Curt Raymond]

I'm not sure how suitable a 2 stroke motor is for this sort of application but 
I would imagine there are small 4 stroke engines that would be.
  We have a typically bulky 3k generator for camp use which replaced an ancient 
(I presume to be 900watt) unit that was a really good size, I think it had a 
3hp motor. The motor still runs great but the generator head doesn't do squat I 
mucked with the circuit breaker for a bit and we even took the case off and 
looked but nothing was obviously bad. We were using the circular saw and it 
just quit making power. Presumably somebody smart (like Jim Cathey for 
instance) could bring it back to life, but at the time we NEEDED to finish our 
project so we ran to Sears. The new unit doesn't labor like the other one did 
and can run 2 saws at the same time which the other one never could, it also 
produces a much nicer more constant power. We don't use it much, maybe 5 hours 
in 3 years.
   
  -Curt
   
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Hmmm, how about sticking an old alternator in a box with the chain saw 
motor hooked to it, fairly light and cheap portable 12v power?  Maybe a 
small battery thrown on there for storage and load leveling, an 
inverter 
for light 110v.  I guess it would need to be grounded or something, and 
it would be a bit weighty, but still, that would be kinda fun.  I might 
have to try that to run the 12v 'rita blender at the beach.  Or I could 
just hook a weedwhacker motor to an old blender.  Or

Too many projects!

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> I'm not sure how suitable a 2 stroke motor is for this sort of 
> application but I would imagine there are small 4 stroke engines that 
> would be.

For the little it'd be used, and because it's used with an alternator,
the weight advantage (and lack of crankcase oil) of the 2-stroke would
be advantages.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

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Mike Canfield wrote:
> OK I have seen a Reese hitch mounted, gasoline powered blender..Works 
> well.

Something like this?
http://www.cabelas.com/products/Cpod0005934.jsp

Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Mike Canfield]

OK I have seen a Reese hitch mounted, gasoline powered blender..Works 
well.  If you do build the PSD(Don't think Ford) you could use a 12V gel 
type toy/fire alarm battery to excite the regulator and make it all work 
very well as an emergency device.  Would all fit well in a medium sized 
metal tool box.


Mike
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Hmmm, how about sticking an old alternator in a box with the chain saw
motor hooked to it, fairly light and cheap portable 12v power?  Maybe a
small battery thrown on there for storage and load leveling, an inverter
for light 110v.  I guess it would need to be grounded or something, and
it would be a bit weighty, but still, that would be kinda fun.  I might
have to try that to run the 12v 'rita blender at the beach.  Or I could
just hook a weedwhacker motor to an old blender.  Or

Too many projects!

--R

Curt Raymond wrote:

I saw one time in a 4wd magazine where it was suggested that in the 
backcountry you carry a chainsaw with no bar or chain but with an 
appropriate sized v belt and pully so you could hook it to your truck's 
alternator in case of a dead battery...


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Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Rich Thomas]

Hmmm, how about sticking an old alternator in a box with the chain saw 
motor hooked to it, fairly light and cheap portable 12v power?  Maybe a 
small battery thrown on there for storage and load leveling, an inverter 
for light 110v.  I guess it would need to be grounded or something, and 
it would be a bit weighty, but still, that would be kinda fun.  I might 
have to try that to run the 12v 'rita blender at the beach.  Or I could 
just hook a weedwhacker motor to an old blender.  Or


Too many projects!

--R

Curt Raymond wrote:


I saw one time in a 4wd magazine where it was suggested that in the backcountry 
you carry a chainsaw with no bar or chain but with an appropriate sized v belt 
and pully so you could hook it to your truck's alternator in case of a dead 
battery...
  
 -Curt
  
 

 

Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[David Brodbeck]

OK Don wrote:
> Which reminds me - I keep threatening to install ignition switch
> operated relays in the headlight circuits of all our cars, but have
> never actually gotten around to doing it.
>   

Most VWs I've had were like that, except that only the headlights
switched off, not the parking lights.  In a twisted sort of way that
actually made it MORE likely that I'd accidentally leave them on.

On my old Volvo the headlights and parking lights were totally keyed to
the ignition.  I just left the headlight switch on all the time.  Poor
man's DRLs.

Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[OK Don]

I had a '74 Sonett III, but I think I always turned the lights on and
off by raising/lowering the head lights -




My 1970's Saabs were like that, except for the '77 99EMS. The original
owner switched a couple of wires when he was hooking up the stereo and
the headlights were full time but the parking lights shut off with
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Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Mitch Haley]

OK Don wrote:
> 
> Which reminds me - I keep threatening to install ignition switch
> operated relays in the headlight circuits of all our cars, but have
> never actually gotten around to doing it.

My 1970's Saabs were like that, except for the '77 99EMS. The original
owner switched a couple of wires when he was hooking up the stereo and
the headlights were full time but the parking lights shut off with
the ignition. I fixed that the first week I owned the car.

Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[OK Don]

Which reminds me - I keep threatening to install ignition switch
operated relays in the headlight circuits of all our cars, but have
never actually gotten around to doing it.

On 6/24/06, Levi Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I definitely appreciate the buzzer for the headlights on my 83' 300D, or Our
Subaru's which shut the lights off when the key is switched off.  I
*normally* remember, but on occasion, I might forget more often without the



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Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Curt Raymond]

Right on, I think many people misunderstand how jumpstarting works, with the 
marine battery and my 4ga jumper cables you put the cables on and wait a couple 
minutes, then spin 'er over and as long as the battery wasn't absolutely flat 
and its not -20F you'll be fine. One couple (ironically the people who abuse 
the remote starter) have borrowed the battery probably 15 times this year as I 
now absolutely refuse to go out jump their cars for them anymore. The first 
couple times I helped them I'd no sooner get the cables connected then they'd 
be in there hitting the key. Well hells bells let it charge for a second 
anyway...
  These are people who for some reason can't learn to turn the headlights off. 
Their apartment faces the parkinglot for cryin out loud!
  Some people's children.
   
  -Curt
   
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> I looked at these a couple years ago when I needed portable power to 
> run the block heater on my 240D. I came to the conclusion that 
they're 
> all too small to be much use unless you're just fighting a weakened 
> battery. Most were like [EMAIL PROTECTED] which isn't enough to start a 
diesel.

Most of them don't have full-power 12V outputs, they're just tapping
the field generator for you.  If it were designed for full output at
+12V it would be pretty strong.

When jump starting, the donor battery is only doing part of the work,
the majority of the starting energy is coming from the charge imparted
to the formerly-dead battery.  Unless you have some seriously oversized
jumper cables.

-- Jim



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The interesting thing for me about the ethanol/biodiesel debate is the twofaced 
marketing speak from the oil industry.
  The oil industry would have you believe that our oil reserves will last 
forever. They'll site people in the'20s saying we were nearing peak oil and 
we'd run out within 10 years. They'll say that because people were wrong in the 
20's they MUST be wrong now.
   
  Then they'll tell you how ethanol/biodiesel is energy negative and how theres 
absolutely no way it can ever be anything but and we should just give up on the 
idea since after all we're going to have plenty of oil to ride around in our 
4mpg behemoths and keep our 4000 sqft McMansions at a solid 70f for all time 
using that clean burning absolutely safe, pay no attention to the man behind 
the curtain oil.
   
  On the other hand you get big AG like ADM and Cargill. Every year or so the 
oil industry gets investigated and minor fines levied. Every decade or so big 
AG gets investigated and MILLIONS of dollars in fines are actually paid out by 
Agribusiness. So interestingly we're moving from the oil industry whom we think 
is gouging us and in fact is on a relatively small scale to Agribusiness who 
has been GOUGING THE EVERLOVING SNOT out of us for something like 50 years now.
   
  To me its an awful lot like getting pecked to death by ducks.
   
  -Curt
   
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Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Mike Canfield]

If you left the clutch side cover off and take off the bar and chain you 
could slip the v-belt over the centrifugal clutch and hold it tight enough 
to turn an alternator without modifying the saw at all.


Mike
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I saw one time in a 4wd magazine where it was suggested that in the
backcountry you carry a chainsaw with no bar or chain but with an
appropriate sized v belt and pully so you could hook it to your
truck's alternator in case of a dead battery...


That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.  Take a _usable_ chainsaw
with you, having figured out how to flange a belt to it in the field.
You're more likely to need the saw than the charger!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Jim Cathey]

I looked at these a couple years ago when I needed portable power to 
run the block heater on my 240D. I came to the conclusion that they're 
all too small to be much use unless you're just fighting a weakened 
battery. Most were like [EMAIL PROTECTED] which isn't enough to start a diesel.


Most of them don't have full-power 12V outputs, they're just tapping
the field generator for you.  If it were designed for full output at
+12V it would be pretty strong.

When jump starting, the donor battery is only doing part of the work,
the majority of the starting energy is coming from the charge imparted
to the formerly-dead battery.  Unless you have some seriously oversized
jumper cables.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Jim Cathey]

I saw one time in a 4wd magazine where it was suggested that in the 
backcountry you carry a chainsaw with no bar or chain but with an 
appropriate sized v belt and pully so you could hook it to your 
truck's alternator in case of a dead battery...


That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.  Take a _usable_ chainsaw
with you, having figured out how to flange a belt to it in the field.
You're more likely to need the saw than the charger!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Mitch Haley]

Curt Raymond wrote:
> 
> I saw one time in a 4wd magazine where it was suggested that in the 
> backcountry you
> carry a chainsaw with no bar or chain but with an appropriate sized v belt 
> and pully
> so you could hook it to your truck's alternator in case of a dead battery...

If the battery is truly dead, what do you use to energize the field?

Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Mike Canfield]

That would be easy enough to do with about any saw.

Mike
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I saw one time in a 4wd magazine where it was suggested that in the 
backcountry you carry a chainsaw with no bar or chain but with an 
appropriate sized v belt and pully so you could hook it to your truck's 
alternator in case of a dead battery...


 -Curt

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I'd like any opinions, comments etc you might have
regarding these devices.


I hate all devices with batteries.  Batteries die.
I'd be far more interested in some lunchbox-sized
2-cycle motor with an adjustable-voltage alternator
on it, that'd store nearly forever.  I don't think
such a thing exists, however.

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Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

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Good point, all summer when its not being used it sits on a 5w solar panel and 
a solar powered battery desufator...
   
  -Curt
   
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 Add a cheap solar battery maintainer and it will be free to keep 
charged 
and ready all of the time.

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well my first thought was assload, but I thought buttload would be more 
appropriate.

Mike Canfield wrote:

> Don't forget the all important shitload.
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Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Curt Raymond]

I saw one time in a 4wd magazine where it was suggested that in the backcountry 
you carry a chainsaw with no bar or chain but with an appropriate sized v belt 
and pully so you could hook it to your truck's alternator in case of a dead 
battery...
   
  -Curt
   
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> I'd like any opinions, comments etc you might have
> regarding these devices.

I hate all devices with batteries.  Batteries die.
I'd be far more interested in some lunchbox-sized
2-cycle motor with an adjustable-voltage alternator
on it, that'd store nearly forever.  I don't think
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its the way they mount, basically you just have to move the little metal 
clip things off of the 123 one to make a 126 one work in a 123.

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Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Mike Canfield]

Add a cheap solar battery maintainer and it will be free to keep charged 
and ready all of the time.


Mike
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From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices


I looked at these a couple years ago when I needed portable power to run the 
block heater on my 240D. I came to the conclusion that they're all too small 
to be much use unless you're just fighting a weakened battery. Most were 
like [EMAIL PROTECTED] which isn't enough to start a diesel. I've never seen one in 6 
or 24v.
 In my case for $60 I bought a 110ah marine battery and a $10 plastic 
battery box that I mounted my 400w inverter to. For awhile my 240D's 
alternator wasn't working so I'd carry the battery so I could start the car 
to get home. Worked sweet for the money. I've loaned it out to folks in my 
apartment complex a couple times when for whatever reason I didn't want to 
(or couldn't) go out to help them start their car, on a small gas engine it 
works fantastic, especially with real good jumper cables.


 -Curt

 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:05:45 -0600
From: Jon Kanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Good Morning Benz Friends,

An incident last night has caused me to consider the purchase of one of
those portable battery units from which you can start a car with a dead
or weak battery.  I'd like any opinions, comments etc you might have
regarding these devices.  I know that there are concerns jumping newer
computer-laden vehicles regarding possible current overload when the
engine starts damaging some of the electronics.

   Is there a similar risk to auto electronics when using one of these
   portable start devices?
   Are these portable start devices available for 6V applications
(1937
   Buick)?
   Are these portable start devices available for 24V applications
   (1950 Army Firetruck)?
   Any recommendations by brand or model that you've had good
   experience with?

<>Best Regards,
Jon B Kanas


Longmont, Colorado; Cultural Center of the Universe
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Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Curt Raymond]

I looked at these a couple years ago when I needed portable power to run the 
block heater on my 240D. I came to the conclusion that they're all too small to 
be much use unless you're just fighting a weakened battery. Most were like 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which isn't enough to start a diesel. I've never seen one in 
6 or 24v.
  In my case for $60 I bought a 110ah marine battery and a $10 plastic battery 
box that I mounted my 400w inverter to. For awhile my 240D's alternator wasn't 
working so I'd carry the battery so I could start the car to get home. Worked 
sweet for the money. I've loaned it out to folks in my apartment complex a 
couple times when for whatever reason I didn't want to (or couldn't) go out to 
help them start their car, on a small gas engine it works fantastic, especially 
with real good jumper cables.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:05:45 -0600
From: Jon Kanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Good Morning Benz Friends,

An incident last night has caused me to consider the purchase of one of 
those portable battery units from which you can start a car with a dead 
or weak battery.  I'd like any opinions, comments etc you might have 
regarding these devices.  I know that there are concerns jumping newer 
computer-laden vehicles regarding possible current overload when the 
engine starts damaging some of the electronics. 

Is there a similar risk to auto electronics when using one of these
portable start devices?
Are these portable start devices available for 6V applications 
(1937
Buick)?
Are these portable start devices available for 24V applications
(1950 Army Firetruck)?
Any recommendations by brand or model that you've had good
experience with?

<>Best Regards,
Jon B Kanas


Longmont, Colorado; Cultural Center of the Universe
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Website: http://www.qadas.com/~kanas 
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> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>> Hmmm... buttload, boatload, and mother lode (stet).
>> 
>> What a wonderful language.
> 
> There's also pantsload, both standard and metric.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Mitch Haley]

Jim Cathey wrote:
> 
> I'd be far more interested in some lunchbox-sized
> 2-cycle motor with an adjustable-voltage alternator
> on it, that'd store nearly forever.  

An inventive guy with free time, an externally regulated
alternator, a drive belt, and an old weed wacker could
probably come up with something. 
I saw a 1kw generator in this week's ad from Meijer supermarkets,
they have it on sale for $109.97. I don't know if it's two stroke
or four stroke, but it sure looks small, probably 110v only. 

Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[David Brodbeck]

Jim Cathey wrote:
>> I'd like any opinions, comments etc you might have
>> regarding these devices.
>> 
>
> I hate all devices with batteries.  Batteries die.
> I'd be far more interested in some lunchbox-sized
> 2-cycle motor with an adjustable-voltage alternator
> on it, that'd store nearly forever.  I don't think
> such a thing exists, however.
>   

I bet you could build one!  A quick back-of-the-envelope calculation
suggests a 0.9 hp string trimmer motor should be able to handle an
alternator output of up to about 50 amps at 12V.  You won't jump-start a
car off that, but it'd charge the battery in pretty short order.  Neat idea.

Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Jim Cathey]

I'd like any opinions, comments etc you might have
regarding these devices.


I hate all devices with batteries.  Batteries die.
I'd be far more interested in some lunchbox-sized
2-cycle motor with an adjustable-voltage alternator
on it, that'd store nearly forever.  I don't think
such a thing exists, however.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices

[Levi Smith]

I've had one for a few years, and the battery gave up last year and I got a
new one.  For the like $40 they are, they're wonderfully useful on a few
occasions.  I don't really know what the concern is on newer vehicles,
unless you do something really stupid.  Even then, it's still at least as
little danger as jumping.  Every one I've seen, you hook the cables up, THEN
you turn them on.  So it's not like there should be any arcing or anything
else.

I have yet to see a 6v or 24v model, not sure if they exist, but you could
make one easy enough.  Just get a 6v battery, mount it in some sort of case
and attach a couple cables, preferably with a switch.  Or get a coupl 12v
batteries and do the same thing for the 24v model.

Other than selecting on by amerage rating depending on just how dead the
battery is and what you're trying to jump, I don't think there'd be a whole
lot of difference in the units.  You're buying a battery (that will probably
last about 3-5 years if you take care of it) in a case with a switch and
half a set of jumper cables.  Well, ok, my current on also has an led light
and a battery meter (kinda), and the last one had a fluorescent light, low
pressure inflator, 100watt inverter, etc.  But for the actual jumping part,
there's not much to it...

Levi

On 6/23/06, Jon Kanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Good Morning Benz Friends,

An incident last night has caused me to consider the purchase of one of
those portable battery units from which you can start a car with a dead
or weak battery.  I'd like any opinions, comments etc you might have
regarding these devices.  I know that there are concerns jumping newer
computer-laden vehicles regarding possible current overload when the
engine starts damaging some of the electronics.

Is there a similar risk to auto electronics when using one of these
portable start devices?
Are these portable start devices available for 6V applications (1937
Buick)?
Are these portable start devices available for 24V applications
(1950 Army Firetruck)?
Any recommendations by brand or model that you've had good
experience with?

<>Best Regards,
Jon B Kanas


Longmont, Colorado; Cultural Center of the Universe
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Website: http://www.qadas.com/~kanas 
AOL Instant Messenger ID: KanasColo


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