Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
It had steel nuts.

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On May 13, 2012, at 11:06 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

DId it have the original copper nuts, or were they replaced with steel
ones? I've been amazed at the ease of removing the copper nuts from bolts
that I was sure would break. Not finger loose by any means, but no where
near as hard as I expected due to the condition of the threads they were
going over.

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote:

It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the header pipe
to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after mutiple penetrant
applications- over a few days. The second was really stubborn- it was
starting to come but ultimately snapped which is fine as the bolt just
passes through the flanges- not threaded thru anything. Overall was a
moderate PITA. How do mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-14 Thread Walt Zarnoch
That's what he said!

Walt, who couldn't resist the temptation.
On May 14, 2012 8:03 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It had steel nuts.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 13, 2012, at 11:06 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 DId it have the original copper nuts, or were they replaced with steel
 ones? I've been amazed at the ease of removing the copper nuts from bolts
 that I was sure would break. Not finger loose by any means, but no where
 near as hard as I expected due to the condition of the threads they were
 going over.

 On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the header pipe
 to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after mutiple penetrant
 applications- over a few days. The second was really stubborn- it was
 starting to come but ultimately snapped which is fine as the bolt just
 passes through the flanges- not threaded thru anything. Overall was a
 moderate PITA. How do mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-13 Thread Craig
On Sun, 13 May 2012 19:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the header
 pipe to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after mutiple
 penetrant applications- over a few days. The second was really
 stubborn- it was starting to come but ultimately snapped which is fine
 as the bolt just passes through the flanges- not threaded thru
 anything. Overall was a moderate PITA. How do mechanics do this so
 quickly? Impact guns?

Probably.

When I was doing the power steering pump on the '94 E420, I borrowed a
3/8 air rachet from my neighbor. That, a couple of short extensions and
a couple of U-joints was the only way to get one of the bolts off.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-13 Thread OK Don
DId it have the original copper nuts, or were they replaced with steel
ones? I've been amazed at the ease of removing the copper nuts from bolts
that I was sure would break. Not finger loose by any means, but no where
near as hard as I expected due to the condition of the threads they were
going over.

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote:

 It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the header pipe
 to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after mutiple penetrant
 applications- over a few days. The second was really stubborn- it was
 starting to come but ultimately snapped which is fine as the bolt just
 passes through the flanges- not threaded thru anything. Overall was a
 moderate PITA. How do mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-13 Thread Dieselhead
Long time ago I learned that if you replace the good MB bolts and 
nuts with 5/16 'merkun bolts, the next time you need to do the job, 
the 'merkun bolts will twist off with 1/4 turn.  Much faster.   Rust 
up solid.  Just a little turn, and they pop right off.  Of course you 
have to have new bolts and nuts.


It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the 
header pipe to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after 
mutiple penetrant applications- over a few days. The second was 
really stubborn- it was starting to come but ultimately snapped 
which is fine as the bolt just passes through the flanges- not 
threaded thru anything. Overall was a moderate PITA. How do 
mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?


Air tools or a flame wrench.

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-13 Thread Dieselhead
Coppers drive around in cars looking for trouble to inflict on the 
citizenry.  Copper nuts are for 'merkun junk with mild steel studs in 
the exhaust manifold.  The MB exhaust pipe nuts may have a plating on 
them, but every one I have seen is high grade steel (self locking), 
to match the high grade bolts used.  (OM621 to OM603, and same 
vintage gassers) (1959-1989)




DId it have the original copper nuts, or were they replaced with steel
ones? I've been amazed at the ease of removing the copper nuts from bolts
that I was sure would break. Not finger loose by any means, but no where
near as hard as I expected due to the condition of the threads they were
going over.

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis 
dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote:



 It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the header pipe
 to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after mutiple penetrant
 applications- over a few days. The second was really stubborn- it was
 starting to come but ultimately snapped which is fine as the bolt just
 passes through the flanges- not threaded thru anything. Overall was a
 moderate PITA. How do mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-13 Thread Jim Cathey

How do mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?


Smoke wrench.  Or twist 'em in half and replace.

-- Jim



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