Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I was speaking to Dimitri, who is actually a friend in real life..

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:35 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I don't have hatred for them, I just don't like (most of) the ideas that
> they promote and the "stories" that are being promoted about them.  I
> dislike intensely these old political hacks somehow thinking they have
> the answers, when they have been the ones who have created the
> problems.  But then I realize they are just fronts for the real power in
> the politics, and that puts me off even more (and maybe I hate that and
> those people, I guess I do, not particularly individually but
> collectively).
>
> I also find it exceedingly odd that the candidate who drew the least
> support in the primaries, the woman whose "color" keeps changing and
> clearly a strong feminist who ed her way into politics and who
> called her boss a racist rapist, is now next in line for the job and
> everyone is gaga about her when just a few short months ago very few had
> any interest in her.
>
> These are perfectly rational reasons for disliking the choices, at least
> as rational as any in politics.  (NOTE:  I helped a black woman who was
> running as an R for a local County Council seat in her campaign, mostly
> because the black woman D we now have is dumb as a rock and a
> self-avowed racist and totally useless except as a total tool for
> whatever she is told to do by a coupla people.  I kept suggesting we
> talk about these rational points, taxes, economy, libraries, education,
> things that like that which affect everyone, but this guy she knew who
> was also advising her told us that politics and elections have very
> little to do with rationality; it is all about emotions and emotional
> reactions and feelings.  That kinda stunned me, but it makes perfect
> sense because it is true for about 95% of the voters I guess.  Now she
> did not make it through the primary but I did get behind her competitor,
> a white guy with whom I had a fundamental disagreement about one major
> issue but who I knew would be an excellent council member.  He did not
> win but made a very good showing, and he and I are friends now even
> though we still disagree about this one big thing.  I learned from that
> experience that rationality has little bearing on anything in politics,
> so that makes me a real outlier in my cynical views on things.)
>
> Carry on...
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/21/21 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > So how is your hatred for Biden and Harris not irrational?
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 3:13 PM Floyd Thursby
> > mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Good point, I'll concede that.  Plenty of stuff Trump did that I
> > find disagreeable but in general the idea of the guy from outside
> > the organization coming in to clean house is appealing, much more
> > so than seeing a 50-year corporate hack coming in to "fix" things
> > by putting all the old managers back in their positions.  Somehow
> > I doubt he will be transformative (in good ways and bad too) -- he
> > (or his handlers) will pull back to the comfort zone and /status
> > quo ante /and the swamp will get back to being the fetid festering
> > miasma we all know and love.  That was the draw of Ol Joe.
> >
> > I kinda the like the idea of citizen representatives, not career
> > politico functionaries whose primary interest is in perpetuating
> > the organization that they have been part of for 30 or 50 years or
> > whatever.  I realize we all have the chance to vote them out every
> > 2, 4, or 6 years but so many seem to become adept at playing the
> > game, mostly around money and favors and cronyism, that it is
> > difficult to counter their election propaganda.  This guy who is
> > now apparently becoming DNC head, Jaime Harrison from SC, spent
> > $110mil trying to bump out Lindsey Graham, who spent like $100mil,
> > and lost an uphill battle but did OK in losing.  (That's like $40
> > per person in the state, probably $80 or $100 per voter)  Ol
> > Lindsey grows a spine every 6 years, talks big, and most of the
> > voters who have not been paying attention for the last 5.5 years
> > get energized, re-elect him again, and then he's back to his swamp
> > ways.
> >
> > My opinion is that most of the DC functionaries hated Trump
> > because he was that outside guy (and his abrasive narcissistic
> > personality did not help, but hey, he's a nooyawka, look at
> > Chuckie Shoomuh too) but in general I think the guy mostly did
> > what he said he was going to do, and that really pissed off a lot
> > of interests that wanted things to continue as they had been.  We
> > saw that starting even before the election what with the spying on
> > his organization by the swamp dwellers and the "dossier" business
> > from Hills, and it continues to this day.  He has 

Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I don't have hatred for them, I just don't like (most of) the ideas that 
they promote and the "stories" that are being promoted about them.  I 
dislike intensely these old political hacks somehow thinking they have 
the answers, when they have been the ones who have created the 
problems.  But then I realize they are just fronts for the real power in 
the politics, and that puts me off even more (and maybe I hate that and 
those people, I guess I do, not particularly individually but collectively).


I also find it exceedingly odd that the candidate who drew the least 
support in the primaries, the woman whose "color" keeps changing and 
clearly a strong feminist who ed her way into politics and who 
called her boss a racist rapist, is now next in line for the job and 
everyone is gaga about her when just a few short months ago very few had 
any interest in her.


These are perfectly rational reasons for disliking the choices, at least 
as rational as any in politics.  (NOTE:  I helped a black woman who was 
running as an R for a local County Council seat in her campaign, mostly 
because the black woman D we now have is dumb as a rock and a 
self-avowed racist and totally useless except as a total tool for 
whatever she is told to do by a coupla people.  I kept suggesting we 
talk about these rational points, taxes, economy, libraries, education, 
things that like that which affect everyone, but this guy she knew who 
was also advising her told us that politics and elections have very 
little to do with rationality; it is all about emotions and emotional 
reactions and feelings.  That kinda stunned me, but it makes perfect 
sense because it is true for about 95% of the voters I guess.  Now she 
did not make it through the primary but I did get behind her competitor, 
a white guy with whom I had a fundamental disagreement about one major 
issue but who I knew would be an excellent council member.  He did not 
win but made a very good showing, and he and I are friends now even 
though we still disagree about this one big thing.  I learned from that 
experience that rationality has little bearing on anything in politics, 
so that makes me a real outlier in my cynical views on things.)


Carry on...

--FT

On 1/21/21 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

So how is your hatred for Biden and Harris not irrational?

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 3:13 PM Floyd Thursby 
mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Good point, I'll concede that.  Plenty of stuff Trump did that I
find disagreeable but in general the idea of the guy from outside
the organization coming in to clean house is appealing, much more
so than seeing a 50-year corporate hack coming in to "fix" things
by putting all the old managers back in their positions.  Somehow
I doubt he will be transformative (in good ways and bad too) -- he
(or his handlers) will pull back to the comfort zone and /status
quo ante /and the swamp will get back to being the fetid festering
miasma we all know and love.  That was the draw of Ol Joe.

I kinda the like the idea of citizen representatives, not career
politico functionaries whose primary interest is in perpetuating
the organization that they have been part of for 30 or 50 years or
whatever.  I realize we all have the chance to vote them out every
2, 4, or 6 years but so many seem to become adept at playing the
game, mostly around money and favors and cronyism, that it is
difficult to counter their election propaganda.  This guy who is
now apparently becoming DNC head, Jaime Harrison from SC, spent
$110mil trying to bump out Lindsey Graham, who spent like $100mil,
and lost an uphill battle but did OK in losing.  (That's like $40
per person in the state, probably $80 or $100 per voter)  Ol
Lindsey grows a spine every 6 years, talks big, and most of the
voters who have not been paying attention for the last 5.5 years
get energized, re-elect him again, and then he's back to his swamp
ways.

My opinion is that most of the DC functionaries hated Trump
because he was that outside guy (and his abrasive narcissistic
personality did not help, but hey, he's a nooyawka, look at
Chuckie Shoomuh too) but in general I think the guy mostly did
what he said he was going to do, and that really pissed off a lot
of interests that wanted things to continue as they had been.  We
saw that starting even before the election what with the spying on
his organization by the swamp dwellers and the "dossier" business
from Hills, and it continues to this day.  He has to be stomped
out for good.

But the election has been done, the old guy is the new guy, the
press is now giddy over Dr. Jill's and KHarris's wardrobes, and
life will go on in ways yet to be seen for some period of time. 
wooo wooo.

YMMV y'all.

--FT

On 1/20/21 11:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

/Trump made it clear w

Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So how is your hatred for Biden and Harris not irrational?

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 3:13 PM Floyd Thursby 
wrote:

> Good point, I'll concede that.  Plenty of stuff Trump did that I find
> disagreeable but in general the idea of the guy from outside the
> organization coming in to clean house is appealing, much more so than
> seeing a 50-year corporate hack coming in to "fix" things by putting all
> the old managers back in their positions.  Somehow I doubt he will be
> transformative (in good ways and bad too) -- he (or his handlers) will pull
> back to the comfort zone and *status quo ante *and the swamp will get
> back to being the fetid festering miasma we all know and love.  That was
> the draw of Ol Joe.
>
> I kinda the like the idea of citizen representatives, not career politico
> functionaries whose primary interest is in perpetuating the organization
> that they have been part of for 30 or 50 years or whatever.  I realize we
> all have the chance to vote them out every 2, 4, or 6 years but so many
> seem to become adept at playing the game, mostly around money and favors
> and cronyism, that it is difficult to counter their election propaganda.
> This guy who is now apparently becoming DNC head, Jaime Harrison from SC,
> spent $110mil trying to bump out Lindsey Graham, who spent like $100mil,
> and lost an uphill battle but did OK in losing.  (That's like $40 per
> person in the state, probably $80 or $100 per voter)  Ol Lindsey grows a
> spine every 6 years, talks big, and most of the voters who have not been
> paying attention for the last 5.5 years get energized, re-elect him again,
> and then he's back to his swamp ways.
>
> My opinion is that most of the DC functionaries hated Trump because he was
> that outside guy (and his abrasive narcissistic personality did not help,
> but hey, he's a nooyawka, look at Chuckie Shoomuh too) but in general I
> think the guy mostly did what he said he was going to do, and that really
> pissed off a lot of interests that wanted things to continue as they had
> been.  We saw that starting even before the election what with the spying
> on his organization by the swamp dwellers and the "dossier" business from
> Hills, and it continues to this day.  He has to be stomped out for good.
>
> But the election has been done, the old guy is the new guy, the press is
> now giddy over Dr. Jill's and KHarris's wardrobes, and life will go on in
> ways yet to be seen for some period of time.  wooo wooo.
>
> YMMV y'all.
>
> --FT
> On 1/20/21 11:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
> *Trump made it clear when he announced he was running for president that
> he was an outsider and wasn’t part of the “swamp” and would challenge the
> swamp rats (pretty much everyone there).  He made good on that promise and
> got all sides turned against him, including about half the citizens.  *
>
> Nuh-huh.  One of his last acts was to revoke restrictions on lobbying that
> he had put in place in 2017.
>
>
> https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/trump-revokes-rule-lobbying-by-white-house-staff-460608
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:20 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I’ve asked that question too and the answer is either nothing or undoing
>> bad things Trump did ( no mention of any positives) or that Trump is a bad
>> person and Biden is a good person. No indications of what specific policies
>> would be implemented although I guess we are now seeing those, but no one I
>> know could articulate much beyond a coupla sorta marginal things.
>>
>> Trump made it clear when he announced he was running for president that
>> he was an outsider and wasn’t part of the “swamp” and would challenge the
>> swamp rats (pretty much everyone there).  He made good on that promise and
>> got all sides turned against him, including about half the citizens.
>> Things are back to normal now, the swamp rats will get back to status quo,
>> and life will go on.
>>
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>>
>> > On Jan 20, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4
>> years I have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He
>> is now out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
>> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
>> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
>> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
>> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to for
>> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the
>> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Good point, I'll concede that.  Plenty of stuff Trump did that I find 
disagreeable but in general the idea of the guy from outside the 
organization coming in to clean house is appealing, much more so than 
seeing a 50-year corporate hack coming in to "fix" things by putting all 
the old managers back in their positions.  Somehow I doubt he will be 
transformative (in good ways and bad too) -- he (or his handlers) will 
pull back to the comfort zone and /status quo ante /and the swamp will 
get back to being the fetid festering miasma we all know and love.  That 
was the draw of Ol Joe.


I kinda the like the idea of citizen representatives, not career 
politico functionaries whose primary interest is in perpetuating the 
organization that they have been part of for 30 or 50 years or 
whatever.  I realize we all have the chance to vote them out every 2, 4, 
or 6 years but so many seem to become adept at playing the game, mostly 
around money and favors and cronyism, that it is difficult to counter 
their election propaganda.  This guy who is now apparently becoming DNC 
head, Jaime Harrison from SC, spent $110mil trying to bump out Lindsey 
Graham, who spent like $100mil, and lost an uphill battle but did OK in 
losing.  (That's like $40 per person in the state, probably $80 or $100 
per voter)  Ol Lindsey grows a spine every 6 years, talks big, and most 
of the voters who have not been paying attention for the last 5.5 years 
get energized, re-elect him again, and then he's back to his swamp ways.


My opinion is that most of the DC functionaries hated Trump because he 
was that outside guy (and his abrasive narcissistic personality did not 
help, but hey, he's a nooyawka, look at Chuckie Shoomuh too) but in 
general I think the guy mostly did what he said he was going to do, and 
that really pissed off a lot of interests that wanted things to continue 
as they had been.  We saw that starting even before the election what 
with the spying on his organization by the swamp dwellers and the 
"dossier" business from Hills, and it continues to this day.  He has to 
be stomped out for good.


But the election has been done, the old guy is the new guy, the press is 
now giddy over Dr. Jill's and KHarris's wardrobes, and life will go on 
in ways yet to be seen for some period of time. wooo wooo.


YMMV y'all.

--FT

On 1/20/21 11:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
/Trump made it clear when he announced he was running for president 
that he was an outsider and wasn’t part of the “swamp” and would 
challenge the swamp rats (pretty much everyone there).  He made good 
on that promise and got all sides turned against him, including about 
half the citizens. /


Nuh-huh.  One of his last acts was to revoke restrictions on lobbying 
that he had put in place in 2017.


https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/trump-revokes-rule-lobbying-by-white-house-staff-460608 




On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:20 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


I’ve asked that question too and the answer is either nothing or
undoing bad things Trump did ( no mention of any positives) or
that Trump is a bad person and Biden is a good person. No
indications of what specific policies would be implemented
although I guess we are now seeing those, but no one I know could
articulate much beyond a coupla sorta marginal things.

Trump made it clear when he announced he was running for president
that he was an outsider and wasn’t part of the “swamp” and would
challenge the swamp rats (pretty much everyone there).  He made
good on that promise and got all sides turned against him,
including about half the citizens. Things are back to normal now,
the swamp rats will get back to status quo, and life will go on.

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the
last 4 years I have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook)
bashing Trump. He is now out of office and I still see this. I do
not recall ever seeing any positive posts promoting Biden and what
good he is going to do for our country. With that said, can any of
you help me out and give me your position in support of Biden that
does not involve Trump bashing?  I am trying to keep an open mind
to find out what I have to look forward to for at least the next 4
years. If you don’t have anything to say regarding the positive
things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

To more than half the country. The others just voted against Trump due to 
irrational hatred (TDS) with the exception of the few who are too stupid to see 
the destructive nature of his socialist policies and the few who are both 
losers and failures in life and leech off the welfare state.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> to you, that is.
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 1:33 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Well yes it’s quite simple, because Biden doesn’t have anything palatable to 
>> offer. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jan 21, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Well said Jaime, but Kaleb's challenge hasn't been addressed yet.  Why
>> > Biden*, other than he isn't Trump?
>> > -
>> > Max
>> > Charleston SC
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:03 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> I hate to get involved in these conversations but consider this:
>> >> 
>> >> Perhaps what you're seeing is actually designed to increase division
>> >> between left and right by reinforcing their preconceived notion people
>> >> already have as the "enemy" on the other side.  Remember that social media
>> >> runs on extremes, conflict, click bait, and extreme ideas.  People then
>> >> feed on this, share it, reinforce the idea and it spreads like wildfire.
>> >> Algorithms make sure you keep seeing the same ideas, not new ones that may
>> >> offer a conflicting message.  Promoting the idea that "everyone is getting
>> >> along, things are getting better" doesn't make much money.
>> >> 
>> >> Generally accepted now that there is significant foreign influence in
>> >> creating these divisive posts.  Lots of it doesn't originate in the US.
>> >> Think about that for a moment!
>> >> 
>> >> If you haven't seen anything positive on Biden in the last 24 hours, then
>> >> you really need to reconsider your sources.  I'm not talking about whether
>> >> you like what he did or not, I'm saying that the news has been flooded 
>> >> with
>> >> what he's been up to as president.  He, like any other president from any
>> >> party, is quite busy his first day in office.
>> >> 
>> >> It saddens me to see people I've known for a long time take on extreme
>> >> positions.  I believe most people are moderate in their political views by
>> >> nature, and we have a huge amount we agree on as Americans.  But the
>> >> current situation with social media and media in general is ensuring that
>> >> we forget that and turn against our friends and family.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years
>> >> I
>> >>> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now
>> >>> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
>> >>> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
>> >>> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
>> >>> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
>> >>> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to
>> >> for
>> >>> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding
>> >> the
>> >>> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Here's another view:  The Big Lie lives on.
On 1/20/2021 7:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> Biden is an illegitimate and illegally installed president. Period. The
Republican Party needs to be eviscerated for not backing Trump. I hope a
third Patriot or whenever party is created just to destroy the Republican
Party. It might not gain traction for a few election cycles and the
democrats might be in power for a long time because of that. But it’s a
necessary price to pay to finally cleanse the swamp rinos out of DC and
finally get a conservative President back in office. The way things are
going the Republicans will never win an election again because the
Republicans are too spineless to do anything about the Democrat’s blatant
widespread and systemic election fraud. Hopefully by that time I’ll be
living in Greece so I don’t give a damn anymore. This country is a joke and
our political system is a third world sham.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 2:02 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well said.
>
> On 1/20/2021 7:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> > Biden is an illegitimate and illegally installed president. Period. The
> Republican Party needs to be eviscerated for not backing Trump. I hope a
> third Patriot or whenever party is created just to destroy the Republican
> Party. It might not gain traction for a few election cycles and the
> democrats might be in power for a long time because of that. But it’s a
> necessary price to pay to finally cleanse the swamp rinos out of DC and
> finally get a conservative President back in office. The way things are
> going the Republicans will never win an election again because the
> Republicans are too spineless to do anything about the Democrat’s blatant
> widespread and systemic election fraud. Hopefully by that time I’ll be
> living in Greece so I don’t give a damn anymore. This country is a joke and
> our political system is a third world sham.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 20, 2021, at 7:43 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> "undoing everything the last president did."
> >>
> >>> On 2021-01-20 19:40, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> What is that going to do?
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > On Jan 20, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  JUST IN - President Biden has signed the executive order for the US
> to rejoin the Paris Agreement on climate change.
> > On 2021-01-20 19:27, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > Crickets. I asked the same thing on Facebook and no real answers.
> > Mostly just about undoing everything the last president did.
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Well said.

On 1/20/2021 7:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

Biden is an illegitimate and illegally installed president. Period. The 
Republican Party needs to be eviscerated for not backing Trump. I hope a third 
Patriot or whenever party is created just to destroy the Republican Party. It 
might not gain traction for a few election cycles and the democrats might be in 
power for a long time because of that. But it’s a necessary price to pay to 
finally cleanse the swamp rinos out of DC and finally get a conservative 
President back in office. The way things are going the Republicans will never 
win an election again because the Republicans are too spineless to do anything 
about the Democrat’s blatant widespread and systemic election fraud. Hopefully 
by that time I’ll be living in Greece so I don’t give a damn anymore. This 
country is a joke and our political system is a third world sham.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 20, 2021, at 7:43 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:

"undoing everything the last president did."


On 2021-01-20 19:40, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
What is that going to do?
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 20, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:

JUST IN - President Biden has signed the executive order for the US to rejoin 
the Paris Agreement on climate change.

On 2021-01-20 19:27, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Crickets. I asked the same thing on Facebook and no real answers.
Mostly just about undoing everything the last president did.

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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

to you, that is.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 1:33 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well yes it’s quite simple, because Biden doesn’t have anything palatable
> to offer.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 21, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well said Jaime, but Kaleb's challenge hasn't been addressed yet.  Why
> > Biden*, other than he isn't Trump?
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:03 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I hate to get involved in these conversations but consider this:
> >>
> >> Perhaps what you're seeing is actually designed to increase division
> >> between left and right by reinforcing their preconceived notion people
> >> already have as the "enemy" on the other side.  Remember that social
> media
> >> runs on extremes, conflict, click bait, and extreme ideas.  People then
> >> feed on this, share it, reinforce the idea and it spreads like wildfire.
> >> Algorithms make sure you keep seeing the same ideas, not new ones that
> may
> >> offer a conflicting message.  Promoting the idea that "everyone is
> getting
> >> along, things are getting better" doesn't make much money.
> >>
> >> Generally accepted now that there is significant foreign influence in
> >> creating these divisive posts.  Lots of it doesn't originate in the US.
> >> Think about that for a moment!
> >>
> >> If you haven't seen anything positive on Biden in the last 24 hours,
> then
> >> you really need to reconsider your sources.  I'm not talking about
> whether
> >> you like what he did or not, I'm saying that the news has been flooded
> with
> >> what he's been up to as president.  He, like any other president from
> any
> >> party, is quite busy his first day in office.
> >>
> >> It saddens me to see people I've known for a long time take on extreme
> >> positions.  I believe most people are moderate in their political views
> by
> >> nature, and we have a huge amount we agree on as Americans.  But the
> >> current situation with social media and media in general is ensuring
> that
> >> we forget that and turn against our friends and family.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4
> years
> >> I
> >>> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is
> now
> >>> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
> >>> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
> >>> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
> >>> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
> >>> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to
> >> for
> >>> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding
> >> the
> >>> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Well yes it’s quite simple, because Biden doesn’t have anything palatable to 
offer. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well said Jaime, but Kaleb's challenge hasn't been addressed yet.  Why
> Biden*, other than he isn't Trump?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:03 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I hate to get involved in these conversations but consider this:
>> 
>> Perhaps what you're seeing is actually designed to increase division
>> between left and right by reinforcing their preconceived notion people
>> already have as the "enemy" on the other side.  Remember that social media
>> runs on extremes, conflict, click bait, and extreme ideas.  People then
>> feed on this, share it, reinforce the idea and it spreads like wildfire.
>> Algorithms make sure you keep seeing the same ideas, not new ones that may
>> offer a conflicting message.  Promoting the idea that "everyone is getting
>> along, things are getting better" doesn't make much money.
>> 
>> Generally accepted now that there is significant foreign influence in
>> creating these divisive posts.  Lots of it doesn't originate in the US.
>> Think about that for a moment!
>> 
>> If you haven't seen anything positive on Biden in the last 24 hours, then
>> you really need to reconsider your sources.  I'm not talking about whether
>> you like what he did or not, I'm saying that the news has been flooded with
>> what he's been up to as president.  He, like any other president from any
>> party, is quite busy his first day in office.
>> 
>> It saddens me to see people I've known for a long time take on extreme
>> positions.  I believe most people are moderate in their political views by
>> nature, and we have a huge amount we agree on as Americans.  But the
>> current situation with social media and media in general is ensuring that
>> we forget that and turn against our friends and family.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years
>> I
>>> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now
>>> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
>>> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
>>> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
>>> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
>>> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to
>> for
>>> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding
>> the
>>> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Well put and true.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I hate to get involved in these conversations but consider this:
> 
> Perhaps what you're seeing is actually designed to increase division
> between left and right by reinforcing their preconceived notion people
> already have as the "enemy" on the other side.  Remember that social media
> runs on extremes, conflict, click bait, and extreme ideas.  People then
> feed on this, share it, reinforce the idea and it spreads like wildfire.
> Algorithms make sure you keep seeing the same ideas, not new ones that may
> offer a conflicting message.  Promoting the idea that "everyone is getting
> along, things are getting better" doesn't make much money.
> 
> Generally accepted now that there is significant foreign influence in
> creating these divisive posts.  Lots of it doesn't originate in the US.
> Think about that for a moment!
> 
> If you haven't seen anything positive on Biden in the last 24 hours, then
> you really need to reconsider your sources.  I'm not talking about whether
> you like what he did or not, I'm saying that the news has been flooded with
> what he's been up to as president.  He, like any other president from any
> party, is quite busy his first day in office.
> 
> It saddens me to see people I've known for a long time take on extreme
> positions.  I believe most people are moderate in their political views by
> nature, and we have a huge amount we agree on as Americans.  But the
> current situation with social media and media in general is ensuring that
> we forget that and turn against our friends and family.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years I
>> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now
>> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
>> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
>> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
>> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
>> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to for
>> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the
>> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am cursed with the ability to see all sides of everything, except for the
allegation by "some" that I am an infallible genius.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:53 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My wife, a generally moderate sensible person, lives and breathes social
> media.
> I have been recently accused by her of being a racist, and she was brought
> to
> tears, multiple times, by the fear that Trump would be re-elected.  WTF?
> I don't
> need any more than that to know that I NEVER want anything to do with
> social media.
> That shit rots your brain.
>
> Ask any engineer what he thinks of positive feedback systems.
>
> -- Jim
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[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

My wife, a generally moderate sensible person, lives and breathes social media.
I have been recently accused by her of being a racist, and she was brought to
tears, multiple times, by the fear that Trump would be re-elected.  WTF?  I 
don't
need any more than that to know that I NEVER want anything to do with social 
media.
That shit rots your brain.

Ask any engineer what he thinks of positive feedback systems.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well said Jaime, but Kaleb's challenge hasn't been addressed yet.  Why
Biden*, other than he isn't Trump?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:03 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I hate to get involved in these conversations but consider this:
>
> Perhaps what you're seeing is actually designed to increase division
> between left and right by reinforcing their preconceived notion people
> already have as the "enemy" on the other side.  Remember that social media
> runs on extremes, conflict, click bait, and extreme ideas.  People then
> feed on this, share it, reinforce the idea and it spreads like wildfire.
> Algorithms make sure you keep seeing the same ideas, not new ones that may
> offer a conflicting message.  Promoting the idea that "everyone is getting
> along, things are getting better" doesn't make much money.
>
> Generally accepted now that there is significant foreign influence in
> creating these divisive posts.  Lots of it doesn't originate in the US.
> Think about that for a moment!
>
> If you haven't seen anything positive on Biden in the last 24 hours, then
> you really need to reconsider your sources.  I'm not talking about whether
> you like what he did or not, I'm saying that the news has been flooded with
> what he's been up to as president.  He, like any other president from any
> party, is quite busy his first day in office.
>
> It saddens me to see people I've known for a long time take on extreme
> positions.  I believe most people are moderate in their political views by
> nature, and we have a huge amount we agree on as Americans.  But the
> current situation with social media and media in general is ensuring that
> we forget that and turn against our friends and family.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years
> I
> > have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now
> > out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
> > positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
> > country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
> > position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
> > trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to
> for
> > at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding
> the
> > positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Well said, Jaime. Thank you.

-D

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes thank you Jaime.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 10:03 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I hate to get involved in these conversations but consider this:
>> 
>> Perhaps what you're seeing is actually designed to increase division
>> between left and right by reinforcing their preconceived notion people
>> already have as the "enemy" on the other side.  Remember that social media
>> runs on extremes, conflict, click bait, and extreme ideas.  People then
>> feed on this, share it, reinforce the idea and it spreads like wildfire.
>> Algorithms make sure you keep seeing the same ideas, not new ones that may
>> offer a conflicting message.  Promoting the idea that "everyone is getting
>> along, things are getting better" doesn't make much money.
>> 
>> Generally accepted now that there is significant foreign influence in
>> creating these divisive posts.  Lots of it doesn't originate in the US.
>> Think about that for a moment!
>> 
>> If you haven't seen anything positive on Biden in the last 24 hours, then
>> you really need to reconsider your sources.  I'm not talking about whether
>> you like what he did or not, I'm saying that the news has been flooded with
>> what he's been up to as president.  He, like any other president from any
>> party, is quite busy his first day in office.
>> 
>> It saddens me to see people I've known for a long time take on extreme
>> positions.  I believe most people are moderate in their political views by
>> nature, and we have a huge amount we agree on as Americans.  But the
>> current situation with social media and media in general is ensuring that
>> we forget that and turn against our friends and family.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years
>> I
>>> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now
>>> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
>>> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
>>> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
>>> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
>>> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to
>> for
>>> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding
>> the
>>> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes thank you Jaime.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 10:03 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I hate to get involved in these conversations but consider this:
>
> Perhaps what you're seeing is actually designed to increase division
> between left and right by reinforcing their preconceived notion people
> already have as the "enemy" on the other side.  Remember that social media
> runs on extremes, conflict, click bait, and extreme ideas.  People then
> feed on this, share it, reinforce the idea and it spreads like wildfire.
> Algorithms make sure you keep seeing the same ideas, not new ones that may
> offer a conflicting message.  Promoting the idea that "everyone is getting
> along, things are getting better" doesn't make much money.
>
> Generally accepted now that there is significant foreign influence in
> creating these divisive posts.  Lots of it doesn't originate in the US.
> Think about that for a moment!
>
> If you haven't seen anything positive on Biden in the last 24 hours, then
> you really need to reconsider your sources.  I'm not talking about whether
> you like what he did or not, I'm saying that the news has been flooded with
> what he's been up to as president.  He, like any other president from any
> party, is quite busy his first day in office.
>
> It saddens me to see people I've known for a long time take on extreme
> positions.  I believe most people are moderate in their political views by
> nature, and we have a huge amount we agree on as Americans.  But the
> current situation with social media and media in general is ensuring that
> we forget that and turn against our friends and family.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years
> I
> > have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now
> > out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
> > positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
> > country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
> > position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
> > trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to
> for
> > at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding
> the
> > positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep, amen.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 9:03 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I hate to get involved in these conversations but consider this:
> 
> Perhaps what you're seeing is actually designed to increase division
> between left and right by reinforcing their preconceived notion people
> already have as the "enemy" on the other side.  Remember that social media
> runs on extremes, conflict, click bait, and extreme ideas.  People then
> feed on this, share it, reinforce the idea and it spreads like wildfire.
> Algorithms make sure you keep seeing the same ideas, not new ones that may
> offer a conflicting message.  Promoting the idea that "everyone is getting
> along, things are getting better" doesn't make much money.
> 
> Generally accepted now that there is significant foreign influence in
> creating these divisive posts.  Lots of it doesn't originate in the US.
> Think about that for a moment!
> 
> If you haven't seen anything positive on Biden in the last 24 hours, then
> you really need to reconsider your sources.  I'm not talking about whether
> you like what he did or not, I'm saying that the news has been flooded with
> what he's been up to as president.  He, like any other president from any
> party, is quite busy his first day in office.
> 
> It saddens me to see people I've known for a long time take on extreme
> positions.  I believe most people are moderate in their political views by
> nature, and we have a huge amount we agree on as Americans.  But the
> current situation with social media and media in general is ensuring that
> we forget that and turn against our friends and family.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years I
>> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now
>> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
>> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
>> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
>> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
>> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to for
>> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the
>> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I hate to get involved in these conversations but consider this:

Perhaps what you're seeing is actually designed to increase division
between left and right by reinforcing their preconceived notion people
already have as the "enemy" on the other side.  Remember that social media
runs on extremes, conflict, click bait, and extreme ideas.  People then
feed on this, share it, reinforce the idea and it spreads like wildfire.
Algorithms make sure you keep seeing the same ideas, not new ones that may
offer a conflicting message.  Promoting the idea that "everyone is getting
along, things are getting better" doesn't make much money.

Generally accepted now that there is significant foreign influence in
creating these divisive posts.  Lots of it doesn't originate in the US.
Think about that for a moment!

If you haven't seen anything positive on Biden in the last 24 hours, then
you really need to reconsider your sources.  I'm not talking about whether
you like what he did or not, I'm saying that the news has been flooded with
what he's been up to as president.  He, like any other president from any
party, is quite busy his first day in office.

It saddens me to see people I've known for a long time take on extreme
positions.  I believe most people are moderate in their political views by
nature, and we have a huge amount we agree on as Americans.  But the
current situation with social media and media in general is ensuring that
we forget that and turn against our friends and family.



On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years I
> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now
> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to for
> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the
> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2021-01-20 23:19, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Bring it to Okie talk gentlemen. This thread is dead.


So, the thread's run its course, and there's nobody here who thought of 
a single good thing to say about Joe?
The best we can do is say 'I can't tell you why I voted for Joe, but Joe 
can tell you why, go watch some of his speeches'?


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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well I guess antifa didn't get Biden's* message yet.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/we-want-revenge-antifa-anarchists-activate-after-biden-inaugurated

" Meanwhile, after the Biden inauguration, leftist groups, such as Antifa,
are causing chaos in multiple cities. "

Will Biden* deploy the national guard to Portland and Seattle to bring them
healing and unity?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:44 PM Meade Dillon  wrote:

> Biden* is bringing healing and unity, just watch his inaugural address.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years
>> I have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now
>> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
>> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
>> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
>> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
>> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to for
>> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the
>> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Bring it to Okie talk gentlemen. This thread is dead.


Rick

Who is not the list mom, assistant list mom, but knows OT sensitive crap when 
he sees it.



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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

*Trump made it clear when he announced he was running for president that he
was an outsider and wasn’t part of the “swamp” and would challenge the
swamp rats (pretty much everyone there).  He made good on that promise and
got all sides turned against him, including about half the citizens.  *

Nuh-huh.  One of his last acts was to revoke restrictions on lobbying that
he had put in place in 2017.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/trump-revokes-rule-lobbying-by-white-house-staff-460608


On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:20 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’ve asked that question too and the answer is either nothing or undoing
> bad things Trump did ( no mention of any positives) or that Trump is a bad
> person and Biden is a good person. No indications of what specific policies
> would be implemented although I guess we are now seeing those, but no one I
> know could articulate much beyond a coupla sorta marginal things.
>
> Trump made it clear when he announced he was running for president that he
> was an outsider and wasn’t part of the “swamp” and would challenge the
> swamp rats (pretty much everyone there).  He made good on that promise and
> got all sides turned against him, including about half the citizens.
> Things are back to normal now, the swamp rats will get back to status quo,
> and life will go on.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jan 20, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4
> years I have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He
> is now out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to for
> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the
> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’ve asked that question too and the answer is either nothing or undoing bad 
things Trump did ( no mention of any positives) or that Trump is a bad person 
and Biden is a good person. No indications of what specific policies would be 
implemented although I guess we are now seeing those, but no one I know could 
articulate much beyond a coupla sorta marginal things. 

Trump made it clear when he announced he was running for president that he was 
an outsider and wasn’t part of the “swamp” and would challenge the swamp rats 
(pretty much everyone there).  He made good on that promise and got all sides 
turned against him, including about half the citizens.  Things are back to 
normal now, the swamp rats will get back to status quo, and life will go on. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years I 
> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now out 
> of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any positive 
> posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our country. With 
> that said, can any of you help me out and give me your position in support of 
> Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am trying to keep an open mind 
> to find out what I have to look forward to for at least the next 4 years.  If 
> you don’t have anything to say regarding the positive things Joe is going to 
> do, then there is no need to post. 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Pretty sure it was already on life support.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:47 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Civility died when the RETARD president and the vice-prostitute were
> installed today.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 20, 2021, at 8:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Civil discourse?
> >
> > That’s a start.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 5:38 PM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> >> Subject: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a
> political baby fest
> >>
> >> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4
> years I have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He
> is now out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to for
> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the
> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is why I suspect people were reluctant to respond to this. I rest my case.

-D


> On Jan 20, 2021, at 8:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Civility died when the RETARD president and the vice-prostitute were 
> installed today.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2021, at 8:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Civil discourse?
>> 
>> That’s a start.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 5:38 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>>> Subject: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political 
>>> baby fest
>>> 
>>> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years I 
>>> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now 
>>> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any 
>>> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our 
>>> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your 
>>> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am 
>>> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to for 
>>> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the 
>>> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Civility died when the RETARD president and the vice-prostitute were installed 
today.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2021, at 8:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Civil discourse?
> 
> That’s a start.
> 
> -D
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 5:38 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>> Subject: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political 
>> baby fest
>> 
>> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years I 
>> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now 
>> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any positive 
>> posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our country. With 
>> that said, can any of you help me out and give me your position in support 
>> of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am trying to keep an open 
>> mind to find out what I have to look forward to for at least the next 4 
>> years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the positive things Joe 
>> is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Civil discourse?

That’s a start.

-D

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 5:38 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political 
> baby fest
> 
> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years I 
> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now out 
> of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any positive 
> posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our country. With 
> that said, can any of you help me out and give me your position in support of 
> Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am trying to keep an open mind 
> to find out what I have to look forward to for at least the next 4 years.  If 
> you don’t have anything to say regarding the positive things Joe is going to 
> do, then there is no need to post. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Biden's principle contribution will be to serve as a bad example.  
Unfortunately the rest of us will pay for the lesson.

Trump's principle contribution was to show the ruling class was corrupt and 
incompetent, not to mention evil.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 5:38 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political 
baby fest

Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years I have 
seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now out of 
office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any positive posts 
promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our country. With that 
said, can any of you help me out and give me your position in support of Biden 
that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am trying to keep an open mind to find 
out what I have to look forward to for at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t 
have anything to say regarding the positive things Joe is going to do, then 
there is no need to post. 



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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Biden is an illegitimate and illegally installed president. Period. The 
Republican Party needs to be eviscerated for not backing Trump. I hope a third 
Patriot or whenever party is created just to destroy the Republican Party. It 
might not gain traction for a few election cycles and the democrats might be in 
power for a long time because of that. But it’s a necessary price to pay to 
finally cleanse the swamp rinos out of DC and finally get a conservative 
President back in office. The way things are going the Republicans will never 
win an election again because the Republicans are too spineless to do anything 
about the Democrat’s blatant widespread and systemic election fraud. Hopefully 
by that time I’ll be living in Greece so I don’t give a damn anymore. This 
country is a joke and our political system is a third world sham.

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> On Jan 20, 2021, at 7:43 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> "undoing everything the last president did."
> 
>> On 2021-01-20 19:40, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> What is that going to do?
>> Sent from my iPhone
 On Jan 20, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> JUST IN - President Biden has signed the executive order for the US to 
>>> rejoin the Paris Agreement on climate change.
 On 2021-01-20 19:27, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Crickets. I asked the same thing on Facebook and no real answers.
 Mostly just about undoing everything the last president did.
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"undoing everything the last president did."

On 2021-01-20 19:40, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

What is that going to do?

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On Jan 20, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:


JUST IN - President Biden has signed the executive order for the US 
to rejoin the Paris Agreement on climate change.



On 2021-01-20 19:27, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Crickets. I asked the same thing on Facebook and no real answers.
Mostly just about undoing everything the last president did.


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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

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What is that going to do?

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> On Jan 20, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> JUST IN - President Biden has signed the executive order for the US to 
> rejoin the Paris Agreement on climate change.
> 
>> On 2021-01-20 19:27, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Crickets. I asked the same thing on Facebook and no real answers.
>> Mostly just about undoing everything the last president did.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

JUST IN - President Biden has signed the executive order for the US to 
rejoin the Paris Agreement on climate change.


On 2021-01-20 19:27, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Crickets. I asked the same thing on Facebook and no real answers.
Mostly just about undoing everything the last president did.



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I did. Did not really get much out of it. 

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> On Jan 20, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> 
> Listen to the President's inaugural speech. Will answer your questions.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years I 
>> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now 
>> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any positive 
>> posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our country. With 
>> that said, can any of you help me out and give me your position in support 
>> of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am trying to keep an open 
>> mind to find out what I have to look forward to for at least the next 4 
>> years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the positive things Joe 
>> is going to do, then there is no need to post. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

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Crickets. I asked the same thing on Facebook and no real answers. Mostly just 
about undoing everything the last president did. 

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> On Jan 20, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> 
> Biden* is bringing healing and unity, just watch his inaugural address.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years I
>> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now
>> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
>> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
>> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
>> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
>> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to for
>> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the
>> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Serious question that does not need to turn into a political baby fest

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Listen to the President's inaugural speech. Will answer your questions.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years I
> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now
> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to for
> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the
> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>
>
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[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Biden* is bringing healing and unity, just watch his inaugural address.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here is a serious question for my democrat friends. For the last 4 years I
> have seen non stop obsessive posts (on Fakebook) bashing Trump. He is now
> out of office and I still see this. I do not recall ever seeing any
> positive posts promoting Biden and what good he is going to do for our
> country. With that said, can any of you help me out and give me your
> position in support of Biden that does not involve Trump bashing?  I am
> trying to keep an open mind to find out what I have to look forward to for
> at least the next 4 years.  If you don’t have anything to say regarding the
> positive things Joe is going to do, then there is no need to post.
>
>
>
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