Re: [MBZ] The results of today
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012, at 08:00 PM, Craig wrote: I looked on the Magic Jack website. They are somewhat short on details of how it works, particularly with just plugging it into a wall receptacle. I got the kind that has to be connected to a PC via the USB port (Mac or Windows only, no Linux support), and uses the computer's network connection. They do have a more expensive Plus version that is a stand-alone model; no PC required. It connects directly to a free port on your router. If you're looking at that version, there is at least one alternative, NetTalk. I don't know how they compare. Basically you buy the device, it comes with the first year of service pre-paid, you get assigned a phone number in your local area code (or any that you chose). You register your name and address with their E-911 service (I guess that's optional, but probably a good idea). You connect a regular household telephone to the device, and use it as normal. I think you can also use PC speakers/mic or a headset if you want. I have noticed that it takes a second or two after lifting the handset before you get a dial tone, but that's tolerable for me. Incoming calls ring the phone as normal. A couple of caveats: you have to leave your PC powered on and logged in; the Magic Jack software needs to be running. When the phone is in use, a window pops open on the PC, which displays the caller ID info (this doesn't seem to get passed to the phone though). The window also contains advertising. I really did no research before I bought this. I had canceled my home landline a few months ago, thinking I could get by with just cell service. However reception at my house is marginal, and has gotten worse in the summer (tree leaves blocking the signal?). So I saw this on sale at Best Buy and thought what the heck, I'll give it a try. So far so good. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The results of today
Who provides your internet service? How likely is you internet service to stay up in the event of a storm or other disruption? For now I keep my land line because of the telco's 99% uptime. We had a big ice storm in 2008 that shut off my wife's cell for 2 weeks. Our home phone was unaffected. -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:32:25 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today Message-ID: m1hau4425i@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So do you do any streaming (e.g. Netflix) or VOIP/Skype etc. on this service? How does that work out? Comcast just shipped me some gadget I need to attach to my TV to continue getting their channels, which is annoying. I just picked up a Magic Jack on a whim and have to say it works as advertised. So I don't need the phone company and I'd love to dump Comcast too. But I want to keep Netflix and now my VoIP phone service. Allan Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: Test Date: Jun 21, 2012 7:13 PM Connection Type: Wifi Server: Bixby, OK Download: 19.05 Mbps Upload: 2.79 Mbps Ping: 800 ms -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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People complain but they also want more channels. The only way to get more channels is to go digital and crank the data rate down... -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:47:20 -0400 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today Message-ID: 61017cf0-5dbb-4de7-9096-35a6ddfbd...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Probably a digital converter box. My brother, who lives up in Greenwood, just had them go from analog to digital at his place late last year. He was not pleased. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: So do you do any streaming (e.g. Netflix) or VOIP/Skype etc. on this service? How does that work out? Comcast just shipped me some gadget I need to attach to my TV to continue getting their channels, which is annoying. I just picked up a Magic Jack on a whim and have to say it works as advertised. So I don't need the phone company and I'd love to dump Comcast too. But I want to keep Netflix and now my VoIP phone service. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The results of today
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Who provides your internet service? How likely is you internet service to stay up in the event of a storm or other disruption? For now I keep my land line because of the telco's 99% uptime. We had a big ice storm in 2008 that shut off my wife's cell for 2 weeks. Our home phone was unaffected. In our case, we need to keep our land line because our Internet service comes across our telco's DSL service. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The results of today
BTW, Craig, granddaughter (NCSU rising junior) is on a paid Summer internship at the Sevilletta National Wildlife Refuge, NM. 'Drove into Albuquerque last weekend; 'thought she'd run over a rattlesnake; stopped to do the required recovery, bagging, tagging, etc., in the refuge and, luckily, saw the critter's tail as it slithered away under a creosote bush. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Who provides your internet service? How likely is you internet service to stay up in the event of a storm or other disruption? For now I keep my land line because of the telco's 99% uptime. We had a big ice storm in 2008 that shut off my wife's cell for 2 weeks. Our home phone was unaffected. In our case, we need to keep our land line because our Internet service comes across our telco's DSL service. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:29:44 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, Craig, granddaughter (NCSU rising junior) is on a paid Summer internship at the Sevilletta National Wildlife Refuge, NM. 'Drove into Albuquerque last weekend; 'thought she'd run over a rattlesnake; stopped to do the required recovery, bagging, tagging, etc., in the refuge and, luckily, saw the critter's tail as it slithered away under a creosote bush. I imagine she was happy to not do all that paperwork. I looked up the Refuge and found http://www.fws.gov/southwest/REFUGES/newmex/sevilleta/, which says, === Fire Threat Prompts Restricted Visitor Use of Sevilleta National Wildlife Refuge Effective Friday, June 15, 2012, Sevilleta NWR will place restrictions on public use due to extreme fire danger. Read more Located in the Chihuahuan desert 20 miles north of Socorro, New Mexico, the land that is now Sevilleta National Wildlife Refuge has a fascinating and long history. Sevilleta NWR is managed primarily as a research area, and is closed to most recreational uses. However, limited waterfowl and dove hunting is available, and special tours including environmental education programs for students, may be arranged by contacting the refuge at 505/864-4021 or fw2_rw_sevill...@fws.gov. Volunteers are needed to assist the refuge with maintenance, scientific, visitor services, and clerical projects. A trailer may be available; please contact the Refuge for more information. Sounds like an interesting place. Dry, but interesting. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:48:19 -0600 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Sounds like an interesting place. Dry, but interesting. I also found http://sev.lternet.edu/, which has a Prairie Dog Webcam Click on image to visit MacKenzie Flats Prairie Dog Web Cam! at http://198.59.133.64/top/liveapplet.html. One can control elevation, azimuth, and magnification to look over the rather bleak landscape. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Who provides your internet service? Comcast How likely is you internet service to stay up in the event of a storm or other disruption? Fairly good. All utilities in my neighborhood are underground. For now I keep my land line because of the telco's 99% uptime. We had a big ice storm in 2008 that shut off my wife's cell for 2 weeks. Our home phone was unaffected. Yeah that was my argument for years. But lately we had more problems with the ATT landline than we did with Comcast or Verizon (cell). I don't think the telco commitment to uptime is what it used to be. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My argument is that I already have a digital receiver in my TV. Why should I need to use Comcast's box, yet another device to find space for, yet another remote to keep track of. The paranoid in me thinks it's so they can track what I'm watching. Allan On Fri, Jun 22, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: People complain but they also want more channels. The only way to get more channels is to go digital and crank the data rate down... -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:47:20 -0400 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today Message-ID: 61017cf0-5dbb-4de7-9096-35a6ddfbd...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Probably a digital converter box. My brother, who lives up in Greenwood, just had them go from analog to digital at his place late last year. He was not pleased. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: So do you do any streaming (e.g. Netflix) or VOIP/Skype etc. on this service? How does that work out? Comcast just shipped me some gadget I need to attach to my TV to continue getting their channels, which is annoying. I just picked up a Magic Jack on a whim and have to say it works as advertised. So I don't need the phone company and I'd love to dump Comcast too. But I want to keep Netflix and now my VoIP phone service. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2012, at 01:20 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: In our case, we need to keep our land line because our Internet service comes across our telco's DSL service. Here, ATT offers DSL without a voice service requirement. I wish it were available in my neighborhood. Obviously you do still need their copper pair wire to your house. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes they can. What, when. Hey look, Allan likes those spicy shows on Cinemax late at night! That'll be on your credit report. --R On 6/22/12 4:27 PM, Allan Streib wrote: The paranoid in me thinks it's so they can track what I'm watching. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nah, I'm to cheap to pay for Cinemax. I have the Basic Limited service, and I only have that because it's cheaper to bundle that with Internet than it is to get Internet by itself. Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: Yes they can. What, when. Hey look, Allan likes those spicy shows on Cinemax late at night! That'll be on your credit report. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The results of today
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:29:44 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, Craig, granddaughter (NCSU rising junior) is on a paid Summer internship at the Sevilletta National Wildlife Refuge, NM. 'Drove into Albuquerque last weekend; 'thought she'd run over a rattlesnake; stopped to do the required recovery, bagging, tagging, etc., in the refuge and, luckily, saw the critter's tail as it slithered away under a creosote bush. I imagine she was happy to not do all that paperwork. I looked up the Refuge and found http://www.fws.gov/southwest/REFUGES/newmex/sevilleta/, which says, === Fire Threat Prompts Restricted Visitor Use of Sevilleta National Wildlife Refuge Effective Friday, June 15, 2012, Sevilleta NWR will place restrictions on public use due to extreme fire danger. Read more Located in the Chihuahuan desert 20 miles north of Socorro, New Mexico, the land that is now Sevilleta National Wildlife Refuge has a fascinating and long history. Sevilleta NWR is managed primarily as a research area, and is closed to most recreational uses. However, limited waterfowl and dove hunting is available, and special tours including environmental education programs for students, may be arranged by contacting the refuge at 505/864-4021 or fw2_rw_sevill...@fws.gov. Volunteers are needed to assist the refuge with maintenance, scientific, visitor services, and clerical projects. A trailer may be available; please contact the Refuge for more information. Sounds like an interesting place. Dry, but interesting. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:29:44 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, Craig, granddaughter (NCSU rising junior) is on a paid Summer internship at the Sevilletta National Wildlife Refuge, NM. 'Drove into Albuquerque last weekend; 'thought she'd run over a rattlesnake; stopped to do the required recovery, bagging, tagging, etc., in the refuge and, luckily, saw the critter's tail as it slithered away under a creosote bush. I imagine she was happy to not do all that paperwork. I looked up the Refuge and found http://www.fws.gov/southwest/REFUGES/newmex/sevilleta/, which says, === Fire Threat Prompts Restricted Visitor Use of Sevilleta National Wildlife Refuge Effective Friday, June 15, 2012, Sevilleta NWR will place restrictions on public use due to extreme fire danger. Read more Located in the Chihuahuan desert 20 miles north of Socorro, New Mexico, the land that is now Sevilleta National Wildlife Refuge has a fascinating and long history. Sevilleta NWR is managed primarily as a research area, and is closed to most recreational uses. However, limited waterfowl and dove hunting is available, and special tours including environmental education programs for students, may be arranged by contacting the refuge at 505/864-4021 or fw2_rw_sevill...@fws.gov. Volunteers are needed to assist the refuge with maintenance, scientific, visitor services, and clerical projects. A trailer may be available; please contact the Refuge for more information. Sounds like an interesting place. Dry, but interesting. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 22/06/2012 2:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: People complain but they also want more channels. The only way to get more channels is to go digital and crank the data rate down... -Curt To quote the Boss --- 57 Channels and nothing on. Randy who has almost given up on TV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You can request ATT drop your voice with copper lines too a friend has it. Just ATT DSL w/ No Telephone number. He uses a Magic Jack for his land line. Russ W. On 6/22/2012 15:29, Allan Streib wrote: On Fri, Jun 22, 2012, at 01:20 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: In our case, we need to keep our land line because our Internet service comes across our telco's DSL service. Here, ATT offers DSL without a voice service requirement. I wish it were available in my neighborhood. Obviously you do still need their copper pair wire to your house. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5086 - Release Date: 06/22/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Comcast is going to the Digital receivers to stifle Cable Theft. The signal from them is going to be encrypted so you have to have a box to receive. Also makes it easier to cut off customers that don't pay the bills, No longer have to send a tech to climb the pole to disconnect just have the puter cut your signal off. Russ W. On 6/22/2012 15:27, Allan Streib wrote: My argument is that I already have a digital receiver in my TV. Why should I need to use Comcast's box, yet another device to find space for, yet another remote to keep track of. The paranoid in me thinks it's so they can track what I'm watching. Allan On Fri, Jun 22, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: People complain but they also want more channels. The only way to get more channels is to go digital and crank the data rate down... -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:47:20 -0400 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today Message-ID: 61017cf0-5dbb-4de7-9096-35a6ddfbd...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Probably a digital converter box. My brother, who lives up in Greenwood, just had them go from analog to digital at his place late last year. He was not pleased. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: So do you do any streaming (e.g. Netflix) or VOIP/Skype etc. on this service? How does that work out? Comcast just shipped me some gadget I need to attach to my TV to continue getting their channels, which is annoying. I just picked up a Magic Jack on a whim and have to say it works as advertised. So I don't need the phone company and I'd love to dump Comcast too. But I want to keep Netflix and now my VoIP phone service. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5086 - Release Date: 06/22/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have 97 channels; often still nothing worth watching. Friend has 300 or so channels and still often worthless. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today On 22/06/2012 2:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: People complain but they also want more channels. The only way to get more channels is to go digital and crank the data rate down... -Curt To quote the Boss --- 57 Channels and nothing on. Randy who has almost given up on TV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've got a little black book with my poems in Got a bag with toothbrush and a comb in When I'm a good dog they sometimes throw me a bone in I got elastic bands keeping my shoes on Got those swollen hand blues I've got 13 channels of sh*t on the T.V. to choose from I've got electric light And I've got second sight I've got amazing powers of observation And that is how I know When I try to get through On the telephone to you There'll be nobody home I've got the obligatory Hendrix Perm And the inevitable pinhole burns All down the front of my favourite satin shirt I've got nicotine stains on my fingers I've got a silver spoon on a chain Got a grand piano to prop up my mortal remains I've got wild staring eyes And I've got a strong urge to fly But I've got nowhere to fly to Ooh Babe when I pick up the phone There's still nobody home I've got a pair of Gohills boots And I've got fading roots... On 6/22/12 5:20 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 22/06/2012 2:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: People complain but they also want more channels. The only way to get more channels is to go digital and crank the data rate down... -Curt To quote the Boss --- 57 Channels and nothing on. Randy who has almost given up on TV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My brother, bless his heart, is a cable TV Luddite. Comcast has done nothing but make him crazy since they took over the city-owned cable system some years ago. It seems like every time I speak with him Comcast has done something to hose up his service, mess up his bill, etc. He would go with a dish in a heartbeat, but his house is literally surrounded by huge oaks with little or no view of the sky, except straight up. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: People complain but they also want more channels. The only way to get more channels is to go digital and crank the data rate down... -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:47:20 -0400 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today Message-ID: 61017cf0-5dbb-4de7-9096-35a6ddfbd...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Probably a digital converter box. My brother, who lives up in Greenwood, just had them go from analog to digital at his place late last year. He was not pleased. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: So do you do any streaming (e.g. Netflix) or VOIP/Skype etc. on this service? How does that work out? Comcast just shipped me some gadget I need to attach to my TV to continue getting their channels, which is annoying. I just picked up a Magic Jack on a whim and have to say it works as advertised. So I don't need the phone company and I'd love to dump Comcast too. But I want to keep Netflix and now my VoIP phone service. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is the beauty and simplicity of POTS. Dan dial tone is king! Man Sent from my iPad On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Who provides your internet service? How likely is you internet service to stay up in the event of a storm or other disruption? For now I keep my land line because of the telco's 99% uptime. We had a big ice storm in 2008 that shut off my wife's cell for 2 weeks. Our home phone was unaffected. -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:32:25 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today Message-ID: m1hau4425i@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So do you do any streaming (e.g. Netflix) or VOIP/Skype etc. on this service? How does that work out? Comcast just shipped me some gadget I need to attach to my TV to continue getting their channels, which is annoying. I just picked up a Magic Jack on a whim and have to say it works as advertised. So I don't need the phone company and I'd love to dump Comcast too. But I want to keep Netflix and now my VoIP phone service. Allan Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: Test Date: Jun 21, 2012 7:13 PM Connection Type: Wifi Server: Bixby, OK Download: 19.05 Mbps Upload: 2.79 Mbps Ping: 800 ms -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The results of today
Complain complain complain, I think the Telcos are legally obligated to 99% uptime, or at least they were at one point. I'm considering dropping our landline but still on the fence. We've had phenomenal service, it still worked in 2008 even when a tree was on the wire. The question is if I can keep my DSL which isn't through the Telco but uses their wires... -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:25:20 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today Message-ID: 1340396720.31573.140661092802097.0f1fe...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain On Fri, Jun 22, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Who provides your internet service? Comcast How likely is you internet service to stay up in the event of a storm or other disruption? Fairly good. All utilities in my neighborhood are underground. For now I keep my land line because of the telco's 99% uptime. We had a big ice storm in 2008 that shut off my wife's cell for 2 weeks. Our home phone was unaffected. Yeah that was my argument for years. But lately we had more problems with the ATT landline than we did with Comcast or Verizon (cell). I don't think the telco commitment to uptime is what it used to be. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I loathe TV, but will watch something mindless like Family Guy to put me to sleep. If it were up to me I would stick with terrestrial stations and leave it at that. The running joke in our household is when the wife, after nearly exhausting the remote batteries, complains that There's nothing on! we have Verizon FIOS, which must have 300+ channels or more Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 22, 2012, at 5:55 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I have 97 channels; often still nothing worth watching. Friend has 300 or so channels and still often worthless. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today On 22/06/2012 2:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: People complain but they also want more channels. The only way to get more channels is to go digital and crank the data rate down... -Curt To quote the Boss --- 57 Channels and nothing on. Randy who has almost given up on TV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The cable companies are all the time trying different codecs to allow for reasonable picture quality while reducing data rate. H.264 has changed the whole game for everybody on that front. Thing is if your TV doesn't support the codec the cable provider is using you'll get no picture. I'm with you about not having more boxes et-al. I fix it by not watching TV. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:27:15 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The results of today Message-ID: 1340396835.31758.140661092802833.6322a...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain My argument is that I already have a digital receiver in my TV. Why should I need to use Comcast's box, yet another device to find space for, yet another remote to keep track of. The paranoid in me thinks it's so they can track what I'm watching. Allan On Fri, Jun 22, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: People complain but they also want more channels. The only way to get more channels is to go digital and crank the data rate down... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Complain complain complain, I think the Telcos are legally obligated to 99% uptime, or at least they were at one point. I'm considering dropping our landline but still on the fence. We've had phenomenal service, it still worked in 2008 even when a tree was on the wire. The question is if I can keep my DSL which isn't through the Telco but uses their wires... The DSL is the Telco's. Whether they provide ISP services (your actual connection to the Internet) or someone else does (as we have), the analog DSL signal is converted to digital at your nearby DSLAM. The digital bits then go to the Telco's central office and are routed to your ISP. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Cinemax has spicey shows? Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yes they can. What, when. Hey look, Allan likes those spicy shows on Cinemax late at night! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Somewhat low on the Scoville scale --R On 6/22/12 10:42 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Cinemax has spicey shows? Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yes they can. What, when. Hey look, Allan likes those spicy shows on Cinemax late at night! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So do you do any streaming (e.g. Netflix) or VOIP/Skype etc. on this service? How does that work out? Comcast just shipped me some gadget I need to attach to my TV to continue getting their channels, which is annoying. I just picked up a Magic Jack on a whim and have to say it works as advertised. So I don't need the phone company and I'd love to dump Comcast too. But I want to keep Netflix and now my VoIP phone service. Allan Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: Test Date: Jun 21, 2012 7:13 PM Connection Type: Wifi Server: Bixby, OK Download: 19.05 Mbps Upload: 2.79 Mbps Ping: 800 ms -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Probably a digital converter box. My brother, who lives up in Greenwood, just had them go from analog to digital at his place late last year. He was not pleased. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: So do you do any streaming (e.g. Netflix) or VOIP/Skype etc. on this service? How does that work out? Comcast just shipped me some gadget I need to attach to my TV to continue getting their channels, which is annoying. I just picked up a Magic Jack on a whim and have to say it works as advertised. So I don't need the phone company and I'd love to dump Comcast too. But I want to keep Netflix and now my VoIP phone service. Allan Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: Test Date: Jun 21, 2012 7:13 PM Connection Type: Wifi Server: Bixby, OK Download: 19.05 Mbps Upload: 2.79 Mbps Ping: 800 ms -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I already have a digital TV. I'm not hooking this thing up, shouldn't be necessary. Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Probably a digital converter box. My brother, who lives up in Greenwood, just had them go from analog to digital at his place late last year. He was not pleased. Dan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Have not tried any VoIP or Netflix, I only have DVD Netflix not streaming Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: So do you do any streaming (e.g. Netflix) or VOIP/Skype etc. on this service? How does that work out? Comcast just shipped me some gadget I need to attach to my TV to continue getting their channels, which is annoying. I just picked up a Magic Jack on a whim and have to say it works as advertised. So I don't need the phone company and I'd love to dump Comcast too. But I want to keep Netflix and now my VoIP phone service. Allan Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: Test Date: Jun 21, 2012 7:13 PM Connection Type: Wifi Server: Bixby, OK Download: 19.05 Mbps Upload: 2.79 Mbps Ping: 800 ms -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:32:25 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: So do you do any streaming (e.g. Netflix) or VOIP/Skype etc. on this service? How does that work out? Comcast just shipped me some gadget I need to attach to my TV to continue getting their channels, which is annoying. I just picked up a Magic Jack on a whim and have to say it works as advertised. So I don't need the phone company and I'd love to dump Comcast too. But I want to keep Netflix and now my VoIP phone service. I looked on the Magic Jack website. They are somewhat short on details of how it works, particularly with just plugging it into a wall receptacle. So, how does it work? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
