Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Like when I pass by the local Shriner’s Hospital, I look for the smaller 
cars/parking spaces where the employees park.

Or, the one I like far better:

There is a building in a run-down part of downtown Tampa that I drive by 
frequently where the Longshoreman’s Union hall is located. I’ve always wanted 
to go in and ask if they can teach me some good swear words.

-D

> On Jan 13, 2024, at 4:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> A two car garage becomes a four car garage.
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>> They could be collectable, and small enough to get several.
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>>> 
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>>> Divided among 10 clowns it's only $600 each.
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 Do people actually pay this much for these things?
 
 
>> https://louisville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/crestwood-2012-smart-car/7706821874.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

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A two car garage becomes a four car garage.

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> They could be collectable, and small enough to get several.
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> > > Do people actually pay this much for these things?
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

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They could be collectable, and small enough to get several.




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> Divided among 10 clowns it's only $600 each.
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> > Do people actually pay this much for these things?
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

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Divided among 10 clowns it's only $600 each.

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> Do people actually pay this much for these things?
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

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And when you get punted by a F-150 it is a very exciting ride!

-_FT

On 1/13/24 1:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

I drove one of these.  Easy to park with a rather zippy, yet jarring ride.

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 12:16 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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Do people actually pay this much for these things?


https://louisville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/crestwood-2012-smart-car/7706821874.html

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Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

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I drove one of these.  Easy to park with a rather zippy, yet jarring ride.

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> Do people actually pay this much for these things?
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Re: [MBZ] Why Am I Strangely Attracted to This?

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On Wed, 08 Nov 2023 00:42:58 + MB list etc via Mercedes
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> I'm guessing the black from the light is the residue from the Lucas
> Smoke that has been leaking out ---

Aha! An interesting explanation.


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Re: [MBZ] Why Am I Strangely Attracted to This?

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> On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 19:04:00 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
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> > https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/brooksville-1958-rolls-royce-silver/7685038887.html
> > 1958 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud for sale by owner - Brooksville, FL -
> > 
> > I am sorely tempted to go have a look…do these older models have
> > hydraulic suspension? Looks like it might.
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> 
> That's a HUGE air filter cannister!
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> And what is the black dripping from the trunk light assembly?
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Re: [MBZ] Why Am I Strangely Attracted to This?

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My buddy Dave had one from, I think the 1980s. He did like 2 weddings with it 
before it broke and needed major repairs. Iirc he put $20k+ into it before he 
got rid of it. His wedding business was a flop.Treated it like a boat, his 
happiest day was when it left...
Curt

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  On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 2:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via 
Mercedes wrote:   As am I.  Probably a beeste to keep on 
the road but it looks like a 
coupla weeks of some good deep cleaning and buffing and it would look 
quite presentable.  If it actually runs that's a big plus.  The ask is 
not particularly outrageous for a 65yo hand-built masterpiece.  You 
could get a black suit and little cap and go into the wedding transport 
business.

That guy Alex Legitstreetcars had one of a similar vintage and did a lot 
of cleaning on it and it looked surprisingly good.  I think he bought it 
from somewhere around here, or near Savannah, and drove it quite a bit 
but he ended up having problems with it, nothing fatal though.

--FT

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> [00J0J_tNFak2Px4a_0ww0oo_600x450.jpg]
> 1958 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud for sale by owner - Brooksville, FL - 
> craigslist
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>
> I am sorely tempted to go have a look…do these older models have hydraulic 
> suspension? Looks like it might.
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Re: [MBZ] Why Am I Strangely Attracted to This?

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On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 19:04:00 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
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> 
> 1958 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud for sale by owner - Brooksville, FL -
> 
> I am sorely tempted to go have a look…do these older models have
> hydraulic suspension? Looks like it might.

That's a HUGE air filter cannister!

And what is the black dripping from the trunk light assembly?


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Re: [MBZ] Why Am I Strangely Attracted to This?

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As am I.  Probably a beeste to keep on the road but it looks like a 
coupla weeks of some good deep cleaning and buffing and it would look 
quite presentable.  If it actually runs that's a big plus.  The ask is 
not particularly outrageous for a 65yo hand-built masterpiece.  You 
could get a black suit and little cap and go into the wedding transport 
business.


That guy Alex Legitstreetcars had one of a similar vintage and did a lot 
of cleaning on it and it looked surprisingly good.  I think he bought it 
from somewhere around here, or near Savannah, and drove it quite a bit 
but he ended up having problems with it, nothing fatal though.


--FT

On 11/7/23 2:04 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:


[00J0J_tNFak2Px4a_0ww0oo_600x450.jpg]
1958 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud for sale by owner - Brooksville, FL - 
craigslist
tampa.craigslist.org

I am sorely tempted to go have a look…do these older models have hydraulic 
suspension? Looks like it might.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Why Am I Strangely Attracted to This?

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Give it a good Martha-ing and flip it to an injury lawyer.

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> [00J0J_tNFak2Px4a_0ww0oo_600x450.jpg]
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Re: [MBZ] Why do people think these things are worth a mint? 2012 Mercedes-Benz glk-class GLK 350 4MATIC Sport Utility 4D, $10, 000

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Not unless it's a bluetec.

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> You can buy a nice ML for less than that.  These things feel kinda cheap
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these so valuable (2002 G500 - 200k miles - $24, 500)

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Yeah, after I wrote that I thought of the old Cherokee. I had the new one on 
the mind...
Curt

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No I was thinking Cherokee. Same basic styling, boxy-looking SUV, very 
utilitarian and not very comfortable (I have a buddy who owns one, you feel 
every crack in the road, seemingly amplified).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jeep_Cherokee_4.0L_Classic_2000_(14924763010).jpg


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You mean Wrangler. I suspect they ride a lot better than a Jeep. Supposedly 
quite capable off-road these are the automotive way to show how rich you are.

Supply is low, demand is high, they hold value astonishingly well.

Curt

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Looks like a Jeep Cherokee, can't imagine the ride is comfortable or that many 
people ever take them off road. Are they built especially better than any other 
MB? Why do these things command such insane prices?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/arlington-heights-2002-mercedes-benz/7671118639.html
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these so valuable (2002 G500 - 200k miles - $24, 500)

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No I was thinking Cherokee. Same basic styling, boxy-looking SUV, very 
utilitarian and not very comfortable (I have a buddy who owns one, you feel 
every crack in the road, seemingly amplified).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jeep_Cherokee_4.0L_Classic_2000_(14924763010).jpg


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> You mean Wrangler. I suspect they ride a lot better than a Jeep. Supposedly 
> quite capable off-road these are the automotive way to show how rich you are.
> 
> Supply is low, demand is high, they hold value astonishingly well.
> 
> Curt
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>> Looks like a Jeep Cherokee, can't imagine the ride is comfortable or that 
>> many people ever take them off road. Are they built especially better than 
>> any other MB? Why do these things command such insane prices?
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these so valuable (2002 G500 - 200k miles - $24, 500)

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That’s a quite good price. The engine is very reliable, the rest of it is 
beefed-up fairly simple drivetrain under a mostly unchanged 40yo (or more?) 
solid military body. Somewhat agricultural and utilitarian but usually tarted 
up in newer versions. This one not so much given 20yo age.  They have the price 
reflecting a limited niche pricey supply, and are sorta cool, and not totally 
impractical for soccer mommy or rich toy use, and will climb straight up a wall 
if you want to do off-road. If I had a lot of disposable money I would consider 
getting one just because, and this one looks to be decent. 

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> Looks like a Jeep Cherokee, can't imagine the ride is comfortable or that 
> many people ever take them off road. Are they built especially better than 
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these so valuable (2002 G500 - 200k miles - $24, 500)

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You mean Wrangler. I suspect they ride a lot better than a Jeep. Supposedly 
quite capable off-road these are the automotive way to show how rich you are.
Supply is low, demand is high, they hold value astonishingly well.
Curt

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imagine the ride is comfortable or that many people ever take them off road. 
Are they built especially better than any other MB? Why do these things command 
such insane prices?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/arlington-heights-2002-mercedes-benz/7671118639.html
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Re: [MBZ] Why Must All Cars Be This Color?

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I have a green 95--FTSent from iFōnOn Jul 2, 2023, at 3:06 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/268716332504918/ Drop the 1, maybe. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] Why Must All Cars Be This Color?

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What color would you like most?

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Re: [MBZ] Why does this have to be so hard? — 400E

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I actually don’t think this would be a separate part as it is all an assembly 
and getting it apart looks quite involved, but it’s worth checking I guess 

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> Contact Michael at the Classic Center for a part number.
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> Mention my name (or simply ask) for a Club Discount.
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>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:54 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
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>> You could try cutting an inch or so off an arm with a ball on it, and
>> bolt/rivet/ tack weld it over the arm with the missing ball.
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 6:13 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am trying to get this 400E sorted. I took off the throttle body (ETA)
>>> and sent it off to a guy (Don Roden) to get rebuilt as it was clearly not
>>> working properly. He calls me and says it’s the wrong one for the car,
>> and
>>> in any case was all corroded up (there are electronics inside that adjust
>>> for the ASR) so wouldn’t work and couldn’t be fixed. I guess that
>> explained
>>> why the car wouldn’t run right (maybe).
>>> 
>>> There was another ETA in the trunk, the PO got it off eBay or something
>>> that is actually the correct one. (yay) I cleaned it up and figured I
>> would
>>> give it a go to see if it actually works.
>>> 
>>> Then I noticed that the ball that the throttle socket fits was missing
>> off
>>> the actuator lever. I talked to Don and explained the issue and he said
>>> he’d send me another lever that has the ball on it. That showed up a few
>>> days ago.
>>> 
>>> Today I went to swap them and of course this piece he sent is a
>> completely
>>> different part and is not going to work. Plus to put another lever on I
>>> think you have to take off a cover that is held in by 4 torx screws that
>>> have a little raised bit inside that requires a hollow torx bit. WTF. I’m
>>> not sure why this part is different as he said he had a bunch of old ETAs
>>> which I presume were proper. Whatever.
>>> 
>>> The little balls are pressed into the lever so you can’t really swap
>>> another one on.  I looked on an old 123 that has a ton of those
>> ball/socket
>>> things in the accelerator linkage but again all the balls are pressed
>> into
>>> their levers.  Maybe one could be popped out but then pressing it back in
>>> would probably be difficult. I think I’ll try to make something with a
>> bolt
>>> I can grind down the head to make a “ball” of a proper size so I can at
>>> least see if this ETA works then worry about finding and sorting a proper
>>> part. Or maybe it will actually work ok and that will be that for now.
>>> 
>>> Bugger.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --FT
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>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
>> are wearing."
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Werner
>> Von Braun
>> 
>> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
>> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
>> doing it."
>>-- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Why does this have to be so hard? — 400E

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Contact Michael at the Classic Center for a part number.
michael.wight...@mbusa.com

Mention my name (or simply ask) for a Club Discount.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:54 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> You could try cutting an inch or so off an arm with a ball on it, and
> bolt/rivet/ tack weld it over the arm with the missing ball.
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 6:13 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I am trying to get this 400E sorted. I took off the throttle body (ETA)
> > and sent it off to a guy (Don Roden) to get rebuilt as it was clearly not
> > working properly. He calls me and says it’s the wrong one for the car,
> and
> > in any case was all corroded up (there are electronics inside that adjust
> > for the ASR) so wouldn’t work and couldn’t be fixed. I guess that
> explained
> > why the car wouldn’t run right (maybe).
> >
> > There was another ETA in the trunk, the PO got it off eBay or something
> > that is actually the correct one. (yay) I cleaned it up and figured I
> would
> > give it a go to see if it actually works.
> >
> > Then I noticed that the ball that the throttle socket fits was missing
> off
> > the actuator lever. I talked to Don and explained the issue and he said
> > he’d send me another lever that has the ball on it. That showed up a few
> > days ago.
> >
> > Today I went to swap them and of course this piece he sent is a
> completely
> > different part and is not going to work. Plus to put another lever on I
> > think you have to take off a cover that is held in by 4 torx screws that
> > have a little raised bit inside that requires a hollow torx bit. WTF. I’m
> > not sure why this part is different as he said he had a bunch of old ETAs
> > which I presume were proper. Whatever.
> >
> > The little balls are pressed into the lever so you can’t really swap
> > another one on.  I looked on an old 123 that has a ton of those
> ball/socket
> > things in the accelerator linkage but again all the balls are pressed
> into
> > their levers.  Maybe one could be popped out but then pressing it back in
> > would probably be difficult. I think I’ll try to make something with a
> bolt
> > I can grind down the head to make a “ball” of a proper size so I can at
> > least see if this ETA works then worry about finding and sorting a proper
> > part. Or maybe it will actually work ok and that will be that for now.
> >
> > Bugger.
> >
> >
> >
> > --FT
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>
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> are wearing."
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Werner
> Von Braun
>
> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
> doing it."
> -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Why does this have to be so hard? — 400E

[OK Don via Mercedes]

You could try cutting an inch or so off an arm with a ball on it, and
bolt/rivet/ tack weld it over the arm with the missing ball.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 6:13 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am trying to get this 400E sorted. I took off the throttle body (ETA)
> and sent it off to a guy (Don Roden) to get rebuilt as it was clearly not
> working properly. He calls me and says it’s the wrong one for the car, and
> in any case was all corroded up (there are electronics inside that adjust
> for the ASR) so wouldn’t work and couldn’t be fixed. I guess that explained
> why the car wouldn’t run right (maybe).
>
> There was another ETA in the trunk, the PO got it off eBay or something
> that is actually the correct one. (yay) I cleaned it up and figured I would
> give it a go to see if it actually works.
>
> Then I noticed that the ball that the throttle socket fits was missing off
> the actuator lever. I talked to Don and explained the issue and he said
> he’d send me another lever that has the ball on it. That showed up a few
> days ago.
>
> Today I went to swap them and of course this piece he sent is a completely
> different part and is not going to work. Plus to put another lever on I
> think you have to take off a cover that is held in by 4 torx screws that
> have a little raised bit inside that requires a hollow torx bit. WTF. I’m
> not sure why this part is different as he said he had a bunch of old ETAs
> which I presume were proper. Whatever.
>
> The little balls are pressed into the lever so you can’t really swap
> another one on.  I looked on an old 123 that has a ton of those ball/socket
> things in the accelerator linkage but again all the balls are pressed into
> their levers.  Maybe one could be popped out but then pressing it back in
> would probably be difficult. I think I’ll try to make something with a bolt
> I can grind down the head to make a “ball” of a proper size so I can at
> least see if this ETA works then worry about finding and sorting a proper
> part. Or maybe it will actually work ok and that will be that for now.
>
> Bugger.
>
>
>
> --FT
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"In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
doing it."
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Re: [MBZ] Why the heck is this so expensive?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

What Fred said - plus low volume. Supply and demand in action.

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:19 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> High precision part?
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 8:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> https://www.rmeuropean.com/Make/PartNumberSearch.aspx?pnsearch=0015861907
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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"In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
doing it."
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Re: [MBZ] Why the heck is this so expensive?

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

High precision part?

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 8:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] Why does it have to be so difficult?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Ay yi yi… why do they do this?

To make it difficult to steal the wheels off your car when you're not looking.

Thieves... they just make life SO much better...

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Re: [MBZ] WHY???? 2012 Mercedes Benz - $6,000

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On 2022-12-25 11:55, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/ctd/d/indianapolis-2012-mercedes-benz/7571692832.html


So you can find it in a parking lot full of identically shaped cars?

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Re: [MBZ] Why is this car not getting the love? 2008 Mercedes CL 550 S Class Coupe - $8, 995 (Warrenton)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Rare, shmare.  Everyone wants a 4 matic.

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 11:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> $5K custom two-tone candy apple red/bl a ck paint job.
>
>
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/warrenton-2008-mercedes-cl-550-class/7566673165.html
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Re: [MBZ] Why Does This Appeal to Me?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have an XC90. Nice, comfortable, solid, well-built vehicle. Many of the same 
qualities of an MB.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2022, at 11:58, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> I know some Volvo guys and they are not unlike us. Kinda like a 
> parallel brand preference universe. 
> The three fellas I know who have wagons like these have owned them for 
> decades. 
> What’s not to love? It’s like a kissing cousin (gratuitous southern 
> Illinois, Pennsyl-tucky, Okie reference).
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 10, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Sold 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2022, at 10:09 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Because it’s a wagon? The color? Looks nice.
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1293993241416187/
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why Does This Appeal to Me?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Because those are awesome cars. Super simple, overengineered, slightly
underpowered, very comfortable. At 6'3 I can stretch out in the back of a
240 in a sleeping bag. Not in a 300td - have to go diagonal.

They made a diesel v6 but wow is it a dog.



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> Because it’s a wagon? The color? Looks nice.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1293993241416187/
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Re: [MBZ] Why Does This Appeal to Me?

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I know some Volvo guys and they are not unlike us. Kinda like a parallel brand 
preference universe. 
The three fellas I know who have wagons like these have owned them for decades. 
What’s not to love? It’s like a kissing cousin (gratuitous southern Illinois, 
Pennsyl-tucky, Okie reference).

AZBob

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> 
> Sold 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2022, at 10:09 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Because it’s a wagon? The color? Looks nice.
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1293993241416187/
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why Does This Appeal to Me?

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Sold 

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> On Nov 10, 2022, at 10:09 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> Because it’s a wagon? The color? Looks nice.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1293993241416187/
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Re: [MBZ] Why Albanians Only Drive Mercedes-Benz

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Very cool!

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> That’s a great vid
>
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> > Specifically for Dan.
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Re: [MBZ] Why Albanians Only Drive Mercedes-Benz

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That’s a great vid

--FT
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> On Sep 30, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Why Albanians Only Drive Mercedes-Benz

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Unlike any of us.

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> Yeah they have serious passion.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Sep 30, 2022, at 12:32 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> >
> > That was pretty cool. Especially the guy from the UK who takes his W124
> wagon to Albania to get it worked on.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Sep 30, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> >>
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Yeah they have serious passion.

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> That was pretty cool. Especially the guy from the UK who takes his W124 
> wagon to Albania to get it worked on.
> 
> -D
> 
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>>  wrote:
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>> Specifically for Dan.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/Nf5l2Wgdgms
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That was pretty cool. Especially the guy from the UK who takes his W124 wagon 
to Albania to get it worked on.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Why I Hate Traveling

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It's not racism - it's NEWS.

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> > "A crew made up of entirely Black women operated a flight from
> Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport to honor an aviation pioneer.
>
> I'm not a big fan of racism, of any stripe.
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Re: [MBZ] Why I Hate Traveling

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> "A crew made up of entirely Black women operated a flight from Dallas-Fort 
> Worth International Airport to honor an aviation pioneer.

I'm not a big fan of racism, of any stripe.

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Re: [MBZ] Why I Hate Traveling

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No need.  The photo speaks for itself.

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> On 2022-08-23 12:33, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
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>
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On 2022-08-23 12:33, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

It's just as bad as showing a photo of an all-white crew.


And bragging that they're all white.

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Re: [MBZ] Why I Hate Traveling

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It's just as bad as showing a photo of an all-white crew.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 8:37 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Yes, exactly. Why is this still even a thing anyway? As long as we keep
> putting on shows like this, racism will never die.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 22, 2022, at 10:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > As long as [takeoffs]==[landings] I could not care less who’s making
> them happen
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iFōn
> >
> >> On Aug 22, 2022, at 11:04 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The flight deck was 100% female on the A320 from TPA to DFW today.
> They did a great job, I was very pleased.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> > On Aug 22, 2022, at 9:49 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
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> >
> > On 2022-08-22 22:26, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> > This is a major league cluster. Larry, Moe and Curley must be
> running the place.
> >>>
> >>> They're just more interested in making social credit points than in
> transporting passengers these days.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.fox4news.com/news/all-black-female-crew-operates-american-airlines-flight-out-of-dfw
> >>>
> >>> All-Black, female crew operates American Airlines flight out of DFW
> >>>
> >>> "A crew made up of entirely Black women operated a flight from
> Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport to honor an aviation pioneer.
> >>>
> >>> The American Airlines flight was meant to celebrate the 100th
> anniversary of the first Black woman to earn a pilot's license, Bessie
> Coleman.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Coleman, who grew up in Waxahachie, was the first Black woman to make
> a public flight in the United States."
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Yes, exactly. Why is this still even a thing anyway? As long as we keep putting 
on shows like this, racism will never die. 

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> On Aug 22, 2022, at 10:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As long as [takeoffs]==[landings] I could not care less who’s making them 
> happen 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2022, at 11:04 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The flight deck was 100% female on the A320 from TPA to DFW today. They did 
>> a great job, I was very pleased.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> On Aug 22, 2022, at 9:49 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2022-08-22 22:26, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> This is a major league cluster. Larry, Moe and Curley must be running the 
> place.
>>> 
>>> They're just more interested in making social credit points than in 
>>> transporting passengers these days.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.fox4news.com/news/all-black-female-crew-operates-american-airlines-flight-out-of-dfw
>>> 
>>> All-Black, female crew operates American Airlines flight out of DFW
>>> 
>>> "A crew made up of entirely Black women operated a flight from Dallas-Fort 
>>> Worth International Airport to honor an aviation pioneer.
>>> 
>>> The American Airlines flight was meant to celebrate the 100th anniversary 
>>> of the first Black woman to earn a pilot's license, Bessie Coleman.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Coleman, who grew up in Waxahachie, was the first Black woman to make a 
>>> public flight in the United States."
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Re: [MBZ] Why I Hate Traveling

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On 2022-08-22 23:46, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

As long as [takeoffs]==[landings] I could not care less who’s making
them happen



It just bothers me when the airline cares enough to arrange for a 
totally non-diverse flight and cabin crew of the same race/gender.


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Re: [MBZ] Why I Hate Traveling

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Exactly.

-D

> On Aug 22, 2022, at 8:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As long as [takeoffs]==[landings] I could not care less who’s making them 
> happen 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2022, at 11:04 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The flight deck was 100% female on the A320 from TPA to DFW today. They did 
>> a great job, I was very pleased.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> On Aug 22, 2022, at 9:49 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2022-08-22 22:26, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> This is a major league cluster. Larry, Moe and Curley must be running the 
> place.
>>> 
>>> They're just more interested in making social credit points than in 
>>> transporting passengers these days.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.fox4news.com/news/all-black-female-crew-operates-american-airlines-flight-out-of-dfw
>>> 
>>> All-Black, female crew operates American Airlines flight out of DFW
>>> 
>>> "A crew made up of entirely Black women operated a flight from Dallas-Fort 
>>> Worth International Airport to honor an aviation pioneer.
>>> 
>>> The American Airlines flight was meant to celebrate the 100th anniversary 
>>> of the first Black woman to earn a pilot's license, Bessie Coleman.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Coleman, who grew up in Waxahachie, was the first Black woman to make a 
>>> public flight in the United States."
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Re: [MBZ] Why I Hate Traveling

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As long as [takeoffs]==[landings] I could not care less who’s making them 
happen 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Aug 22, 2022, at 11:04 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The flight deck was 100% female on the A320 from TPA to DFW today. They did 
> a great job, I was very pleased.
> 
> -D
> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2022, at 9:49 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2022-08-22 22:26, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is a major league cluster. Larry, Moe and Curley must be running the 
>>> place.
>> 
>> They're just more interested in making social credit points than in 
>> transporting passengers these days.
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.fox4news.com/news/all-black-female-crew-operates-american-airlines-flight-out-of-dfw
>> 
>> All-Black, female crew operates American Airlines flight out of DFW
>> 
>> "A crew made up of entirely Black women operated a flight from Dallas-Fort 
>> Worth International Airport to honor an aviation pioneer.
>> 
>> The American Airlines flight was meant to celebrate the 100th anniversary of 
>> the first Black woman to earn a pilot's license, Bessie Coleman.
>> 
>> 
>> Coleman, who grew up in Waxahachie, was the first Black woman to make a 
>> public flight in the United States."
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Re: [MBZ] Why I Hate Traveling

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The flight deck was 100% female on the A320 from TPA to DFW today. They did a 
great job, I was very pleased.

-D

> On Aug 22, 2022, at 9:49 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2022-08-22 22:26, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> This is a major league cluster. Larry, Moe and Curley must be running the 
>> place.
> 
> They're just more interested in making social credit points than in 
> transporting passengers these days.
> 
> 
> https://www.fox4news.com/news/all-black-female-crew-operates-american-airlines-flight-out-of-dfw
> 
> All-Black, female crew operates American Airlines flight out of DFW
> 
> "A crew made up of entirely Black women operated a flight from Dallas-Fort 
> Worth International Airport to honor an aviation pioneer.
> 
> The American Airlines flight was meant to celebrate the 100th anniversary of 
> the first Black woman to earn a pilot's license, Bessie Coleman.
> 
> 
> Coleman, who grew up in Waxahachie, was the first Black woman to make a 
> public flight in the United States."
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Re: [MBZ] Why I Hate Traveling

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We’ll get there. This flight was cancelled yesterday for the first time this 
year. There are only a few flights in/out of Flagstaff daily - 4 on American 
and two on United. United is dropping their service the end of October.

There’s no question it’s a staffing issue, but in fairness, weather has 
exacerbated things the last day or two. I tracked the original inbound 
equipment earlier today. It was going from Midlands, TX, to DFW, then to 
Jackson, MS and back to DFW. The Midlands flight (this morning) was already an 
hour late, delays at DFW and Jackson would have pushed it out so far it would 
never have made it back here before midnight.

To American’s credit, they saw this and found new equipment. The rub is that 
they had no crew. I figured this would happen.

Inbound equipment is coming from Corpus Christie and is on the ground, so as 
long as a crew shows up we’re good to go and will only be in two hours late. 
With all the other havoc in the system today I’m counting myself lucky.

And this is after having to reschedule from Sunday because the Flagstaff flight 
was cancelled. At least they anticipated that well in advance and we knew long 
before we would have left for the airport.

It’s still a cluster. We usually take an early morning flight from Tampa to 
Phoenix, but that’s been taken out of the schedule until October. If we could 
have done that we would have been home hours ago.

-D


On Aug 22, 2022, at 9:37 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:


hope you get to your destination. what a goat rope.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 10:27 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
In fairness, weather has been a major factor today…

3:45 out of Tampa to DFW. Only one of four flights to DFW that went out today, 
the other three cancelled. Lots of very, very unhappy travelers in the airport.

Boards on time, everyone gets on, we’re ready to go. Ground hold for 10 minutes 
due to weather in DFW. No biggie.

Ground hold clears. No action. Nav system is unhappy, calling maintenance.

Maintenance comes after 20 minutes or so. Clears fault.

Maintenance has to update logs. Another 20 minutes.

No pushback crew or tug. Another 10 minutes.

No counter person to move the jet bridge. Another 10 minutes.

Get out to the threshold. 5 minute traffic hold.

Got out an hour and 20 minutes late. No biggie, got a two hour layover.

Get to DFW with and hour before flight to Flagstaff. Inbound equipment is about 
20 minutes late, no biggie. Inbound equipment arrives, passengers deplane. No 
fresh crew available until 10:00 pm (flight was scheduled to depart at 7:45 pm).

Rescheduled to 10:26 with new crew and equipment. Will try to get crew before 
that, unlikely to happen.

Gates have been changed from the original gate six times since 8:00. Moved all 
over the place, now back at the original departure gate after all the changes.

30 minutes to board. Looks like the inbound equipment has just arrived.

This is a major league cluster. Larry, Moe and Curley must be running the place.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Why I Hate Traveling

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On 2022-08-22 22:26, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

This is a major league cluster. Larry, Moe and Curley must be running 
the place.


They're just more interested in making social credit points than in 
transporting passengers these days.



https://www.fox4news.com/news/all-black-female-crew-operates-american-airlines-flight-out-of-dfw

All-Black, female crew operates American Airlines flight out of DFW

"A crew made up of entirely Black women operated a flight from 
Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport to honor an aviation pioneer.


The American Airlines flight was meant to celebrate the 100th 
anniversary of the first Black woman to earn a pilot's license, Bessie 
Coleman.



Coleman, who grew up in Waxahachie, was the first Black woman to make a 
public flight in the United States."


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Re: [MBZ] Why I Hate Traveling

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Sounds like AA to me 

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> On Aug 22, 2022, at 9:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In fairness, weather has been a major factor today…
> 
> 3:45 out of Tampa to DFW. Only one of four flights to DFW that went out 
> today, the other three cancelled. Lots of very, very unhappy travelers in the 
> airport.
> 
> Boards on time, everyone gets on, we’re ready to go. Ground hold for 10 
> minutes due to weather in DFW. No biggie.
> 
> Ground hold clears. No action. Nav system is unhappy, calling maintenance.
> 
> Maintenance comes after 20 minutes or so. Clears fault.
> 
> Maintenance has to update logs. Another 20 minutes.
> 
> No pushback crew or tug. Another 10 minutes.
> 
> No counter person to move the jet bridge. Another 10 minutes.
> 
> Get out to the threshold. 5 minute traffic hold.
> 
> Got out an hour and 20 minutes late. No biggie, got a two hour layover.
> 
> Get to DFW with and hour before flight to Flagstaff. Inbound equipment is 
> about 20 minutes late, no biggie. Inbound equipment arrives, passengers 
> deplane. No fresh crew available until 10:00 pm (flight was scheduled to 
> depart at 7:45 pm).
> 
> Rescheduled to 10:26 with new crew and equipment. Will try to get crew before 
> that, unlikely to happen.
> 
> Gates have been changed from the original gate six times since 8:00. Moved 
> all over the place, now back at the original departure gate after all the 
> changes.
> 
> 30 minutes to board. Looks like the inbound equipment has just arrived.
> 
> This is a major league cluster. Larry, Moe and Curley must be running the 
> place.
> 
> -D
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hope you get to your destination. what a goat rope.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 10:27 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In fairness, weather has been a major factor today…
>
> 3:45 out of Tampa to DFW. Only one of four flights to DFW that went out
> today, the other three cancelled. Lots of very, very unhappy travelers in
> the airport.
>
> Boards on time, everyone gets on, we’re ready to go. Ground hold for 10
> minutes due to weather in DFW. No biggie.
>
> Ground hold clears. No action. Nav system is unhappy, calling maintenance.
>
> Maintenance comes after 20 minutes or so. Clears fault.
>
> Maintenance has to update logs. Another 20 minutes.
>
> No pushback crew or tug. Another 10 minutes.
>
> No counter person to move the jet bridge. Another 10 minutes.
>
> Get out to the threshold. 5 minute traffic hold.
>
> Got out an hour and 20 minutes late. No biggie, got a two hour layover.
>
> Get to DFW with and hour before flight to Flagstaff. Inbound equipment is
> about 20 minutes late, no biggie. Inbound equipment arrives, passengers
> deplane. No fresh crew available until 10:00 pm (flight was scheduled to
> depart at 7:45 pm).
>
> Rescheduled to 10:26 with new crew and equipment. Will try to get crew
> before that, unlikely to happen.
>
> Gates have been changed from the original gate six times since 8:00. Moved
> all over the place, now back at the original departure gate after all the
> changes.
>
> 30 minutes to board. Looks like the inbound equipment has just arrived.
>
> This is a major league cluster. Larry, Moe and Curley must be running the
> place.
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Re: [MBZ] Why I Hate Traveling

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

They will claim weather, maintenance, whatever. I think it all goes back to 
staffing. The airlines are running on skeleton crews since the pandemic. All 
the old guys took retirement and the young guys look at the scheduling and pay 
and say no thanks.


On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, at 21:26, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> In fairness, weather has been a major factor today…
>
> 3:45 out of Tampa to DFW. Only one of four flights to DFW that went out 
> today, the other three cancelled. Lots of very, very unhappy travelers 
> in the airport.
>
> Boards on time, everyone gets on, we’re ready to go. Ground hold for 10 
> minutes due to weather in DFW. No biggie.
>
> Ground hold clears. No action. Nav system is unhappy, calling maintenance.
>
> Maintenance comes after 20 minutes or so. Clears fault.
>
> Maintenance has to update logs. Another 20 minutes.
>
> No pushback crew or tug. Another 10 minutes.
>
> No counter person to move the jet bridge. Another 10 minutes.
>
> Get out to the threshold. 5 minute traffic hold.
>
> Got out an hour and 20 minutes late. No biggie, got a two hour layover.
>
> Get to DFW with and hour before flight to Flagstaff. Inbound equipment 
> is about 20 minutes late, no biggie. Inbound equipment arrives, 
> passengers deplane. No fresh crew available until 10:00 pm (flight was 
> scheduled to depart at 7:45 pm).
>
> Rescheduled to 10:26 with new crew and equipment. Will try to get crew 
> before that, unlikely to happen.
>
> Gates have been changed from the original gate six times since 8:00. 
> Moved all over the place, now back at the original departure gate after 
> all the changes.
>
> 30 minutes to board. Looks like the inbound equipment has just arrived.
>
> This is a major league cluster. Larry, Moe and Curley must be running the 
> place.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Why?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Completely nanny free hotrod that you can buy parts for at any local FLAPS
and that requires no interface with long and NLA supply of Mercedes parts
for 3 to 10 times the price.
In a twisted way, it makes some sense unless you know and understand
Mercedes.

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/538694137987858/
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Re: [MBZ] Why is diesel price not dropping?

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It's more viscous than gasoline so takes longer to flow downhill.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 11:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> 87UL is back down to $4.99 here today, diesel is still $6.09 as it has
> been for a few weeks. Whats's the deal?
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Re: [MBZ] Why do I screw around with cheap solutions

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

my grandmother used to say pennywise & pound foolish. wish I had learned
from her.

On Fri, Jun 3, 2022, 6:35 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Ordered tubes for the lawnmower tires instead of new tires because it was
> much cheaper. Get tube in. Tire still leaks the same as before. I can only
> conclude I poked a hole in the tube getting the tire back on. In the
> meantime it’s so bad I may have to brush Hog the yard. Maybe somewhere
> local has a tire and/or wheel.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Why do I screw around with cheap solutions

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I sure hope the center hole size is the same, hopefully these are universal 

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> On Jun 3, 2022, at 6:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> The local farm store had a 6.5 wheel assembly in stock for $75 for I just 
> bought that. They only had one so I guess I will look for another one later. 
> Still have a rear tire leaking but it’s a 24. I bought tubes for it too but 
> not sure if I want to mess with that or put a can of fix a flat in it. I 
> think it’s big enough to use my tire machine on. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2022, at 6:20 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Assuming it is more narrow it's probably better.
>> They put fat tires on those to float across the lawn but that means they 
>> don't tend to turn all that well.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 06:43:35 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mine has 16x7.5-8 tires on front. Local places have 16x6.5-8. I assume the 
>> 6.5 is more narrow. Will it work as a substitute?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 3, 2022, at 5:39 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 
 Maybe somewhere local has a tire and/or wheel. 
>>> 
>>> Take it to the local tire store.  I used Les Schwab (regional) the last
>>> time for mine.  They're not unfamiliar with the process, the fee was not
>>> unreasonable.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why do I screw around with cheap solutions

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The local farm store had a 6.5 wheel assembly in stock for $75 for I just 
bought that. They only had one so I guess I will look for another one later. 
Still have a rear tire leaking but it’s a 24. I bought tubes for it too but not 
sure if I want to mess with that or put a can of fix a flat in it. I think it’s 
big enough to use my tire machine on. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2022, at 6:20 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Assuming it is more narrow it's probably better.
> They put fat tires on those to float across the lawn but that means they 
> don't tend to turn all that well.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 06:43:35 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Mine has 16x7.5-8 tires on front. Local places have 16x6.5-8. I assume the 
> 6.5 is more narrow. Will it work as a substitute?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2022, at 5:39 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Maybe somewhere local has a tire and/or wheel. 
>> 
>> Take it to the local tire store.  I used Les Schwab (regional) the last
>> time for mine.  They're not unfamiliar with the process, the fee was not
>> unreasonable.
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why do I screw around with cheap solutions

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Assuming it is more narrow it's probably better.
They put fat tires on those to float across the lawn but that means they don't 
tend to turn all that well.

-Curt

 On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 06:43:35 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote: 



Mine has 16x7.5-8 tires on front. Local places have 16x6.5-8. I assume the 6.5 
is more narrow. Will it work as a substitute?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2022, at 5:39 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Maybe somewhere local has a tire and/or wheel. 
> 
> Take it to the local tire store.  I used Les Schwab (regional) the last
> time for mine.  They're not unfamiliar with the process, the fee was not
> unreasonable.
> 
> -- Jim
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Why do I screw around with cheap solutions

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Mine has 16x7.5-8 tires on front. Local places have 16x6.5-8. I assume the 6.5 
is more narrow. Will it work as a substitute?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2022, at 5:39 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Maybe somewhere local has a tire and/or wheel. 
> 
> Take it to the local tire store.  I used Les Schwab (regional) the last
> time for mine.  They're not unfamiliar with the process, the fee was not
> unreasonable.
> 
> -- Jim
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Why do I screw around with cheap solutions

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Maybe somewhere local has a tire and/or wheel. 

Take it to the local tire store.  I used Les Schwab (regional) the last
time for mine.  They're not unfamiliar with the process, the fee was not
unreasonable.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Why is diesel $1 more than unleaded?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I should add that I bought 65 gallons of regular UL today (sans ethanol) -
cost $250! However, it beats the airport price of 100LL at $6.50/gallon!

On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 5:20 PM OK Don  wrote:

> Supply and demand - keep raising the price until demand drops, then adjust
> the price back one notch. Free market at work.
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 4:41 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Excuse of heating oil should be over.
>>
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> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Why is diesel $1 more than unleaded?

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Supply and demand - keep raising the price until demand drops, then adjust
the price back one notch. Free market at work.

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> Excuse of heating oil should be over.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Why?

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Easy for someone who has his money to say that…

-D

> On Apr 13, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As Leno likes to say, if you're making money restoring cars, you're doing it 
> wrong.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 11:13 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I agree, it’s very well done. I believe there was a mention of cost 
>> being around $40k. That’s what I was referencing in the comment about 
>> sunk costs, as in you’re never going to get that money back. At least 
>> not all of it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2022, at 12:08 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I kind of like it. There are things I would have done differently. I don't 
>>> like the red piping in the upholstery. It would look better in the one tan 
>>> colour. I don't really care for the massive console but I could probably 
>>> live with it. They appear to have done a nice job of it. I wonder what it 
>>> cost to do that.
>>> 
>>> Not getting his money back and his wife must have tired of it fairly 
>>> quickly.
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

As Leno likes to say, if you're making money restoring cars, you're doing it 
wrong.


On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 11:13 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I agree, it’s very well done. I believe there was a mention of cost 
> being around $40k. That’s what I was referencing in the comment about 
> sunk costs, as in you’re never going to get that money back. At least 
> not all of it.
>
> -D
>
>> On Apr 13, 2022, at 12:08 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I kind of like it. There are things I would have done differently. I don't 
>> like the red piping in the upholstery. It would look better in the one tan 
>> colour. I don't really care for the massive console but I could probably 
>> live with it. They appear to have done a nice job of it. I wonder what it 
>> cost to do that.
>> 
>> Not getting his money back and his wife must have tired of it fairly quickly.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Why?

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I agree, it’s very well done. I believe there was a mention of cost being 
around $40k. That’s what I was referencing in the comment about sunk costs, as 
in you’re never going to get that money back. At least not all of it.

-D

> On Apr 13, 2022, at 12:08 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I kind of like it. There are things I would have done differently. I don't 
> like the red piping in the upholstery. It would look better in the one tan 
> colour. I don't really care for the massive console but I could probably live 
> with it. They appear to have done a nice job of it. I wonder what it cost to 
> do that.
> 
> Not getting his money back and his wife must have tired of it fairly quickly.
> 
> Randy
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I kind of like it. There are things I would have done differently. I 
don't like the red piping in the upholstery. It would look better in the 
one tan colour. I don't really care for the massive console but I could 
probably live with it. They appear to have done a nice job of it. I 
wonder what it cost to do that.


Not getting his money back and his wife must have tired of it fairly 
quickly.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Why?

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Can you say “sunk costs”?

-D

> On Apr 13, 2022, at 10:12 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's an investment
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 4/13/22 9:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Obviously
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2022, at 7:50 AM, dan penoff.com via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Some people have more money than brains?
>>> 
>>> https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/mercedes-benz/190d/2491159.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's an investment

--FT

On 4/13/22 9:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Obviously

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 13, 2022, at 7:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Some people have more money than brains?

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/mercedes-benz/190d/2491159.html

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Why?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Obviously 

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> On Apr 13, 2022, at 7:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Some people have more money than brains?
> 
> https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/mercedes-benz/190d/2491159.html
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

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> They don't last and it's more or less down to luck who sees it and acts first

I do. It doesn't seem to matter. Some people are decent, and respond even if 
the vehicle is sold. Some people just never respond. And some are such a holes 
you can be the first responder, be on the way, and they sell it before you get 
there.


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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

The internet is a huge audience. Any good deals you spot, so do thousands of 
others. They don't last and it's more or less down to luck who sees it and acts 
first.

Likewise if something looks reasonable but has been for sale more than a few 
days there's probably something wrong with it or it's actually overpriced.


On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, at 11:03 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> I show interest and they vanish.
>
> To steal a quote from BJ Clinton, "I feel your pain."
> I truly chaps my ass when I repeatedly email, text, IM someone about 
> something they are selling, and they do not respond. Then, a day later, 
> the item has been deleted, or marked "Sold".
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> I show interest and they vanish.

To steal a quote from BJ Clinton, "I feel your pain."
I truly chaps my ass when I repeatedly email, text, IM someone about something 
they are selling, and they do not respond. Then, a day later, the item has been 
deleted, or marked "Sold".


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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I show interest and they vanish. 

AZBob

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> On Jan 16, 2022, at 3:20 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It had a number
> Aaanddd it's gone..
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 16, 2022 3:22 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away
> 
> It is an email only reply. No number.
> I must be patient. Compared to what has come up in AZ over the last few 
> months, this is a good deal.
> 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I believe that to be in Peter Frederick's general area.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: January 16, 2022 1:54 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away
>> 
>> I saw that one, and considered making a trip to look at it, but it's about a 
>> 2-hour drive and I don't need another SUV right now.
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> This would be on my short list if it were closer.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://evansville.craigslist.org/cto/d/evansville-mercedes-benz-one-owner/7432326945.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

It had a number
Aaanddd it's gone..


Rick

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

It is an email only reply. No number.
I must be patient. Compared to what has come up in AZ over the last few months, 
this is a good deal.


AZBob

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> On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> I believe that to be in Peter Frederick's general area.
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 16, 2022 1:54 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away
>
> I saw that one, and considered making a trip to look at it, but it's about a 
> 2-hour drive and I don't need another SUV right now.
>
>
>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> This would be on my short list if it were closer.
>>>
>>> 
>>> https://evansville.craigslist.org/cto/d/evansville-mercedes-benz-one-owner/7432326945.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I seen to be seeing more and more CL ads with email only. What stinks is that 
the sellers are either inattentive, the car is sold, or they don’t check their 
email regularly. It’s tough to get a response, or so it seems.

-D

> On Jan 16, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It is an email only reply. No number. 
> I must be patient. Compared to what has come up in AZ over the last few 
> months, this is a good deal. 
> 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I believe that to be in Peter Frederick's general area.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: January 16, 2022 1:54 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away
>> 
>> I saw that one, and considered making a trip to look at it, but it's about a 
>> 2-hour drive and I don't need another SUV right now.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> This would be on my short list if it were closer.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://evansville.craigslist.org/cto/d/evansville-mercedes-benz-one-owner/7432326945.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

It is an email only reply. No number. 
I must be patient. Compared to what has come up in AZ over the last few months, 
this is a good deal. 


AZBob

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> On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I believe that to be in Peter Frederick's general area.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 16, 2022 1:54 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away
> 
> I saw that one, and considered making a trip to look at it, but it's about a 
> 2-hour drive and I don't need another SUV right now.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> This would be on my short list if it were closer.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://evansville.craigslist.org/cto/d/evansville-mercedes-benz-one-owner/7432326945.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I believe that to be in Peter Frederick's general area.


Rick

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I saw that one, and considered making a trip to look at it, but it's about a 
2-hour drive and I don't need another SUV right now.


On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> This would be on my short list if it were closer.
>>
>> 
>> https://evansville.craigslist.org/cto/d/evansville-mercedes-benz-one-owner/7432326945.html
>>
>>
>> Bob Rentfro

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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Could be, but most of them (when there were some around here) were selling for 
a lot more that I sold mine for.

Good point, however.

-D

> On Jan 16, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe someone bought them all and shipped them to Haiti or Jamaica or 
> wherever your old beater one ended up.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 16, 2022 2:21 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away
> 
> Not sure what the deal is, but I haven’t seen a pre-2006 ML for sale around 
> here for a while.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Maybe someone bought them all and shipped them to Haiti or Jamaica or wherever 
your old beater one ended up.


Rick

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Not sure what the deal is, but I haven’t seen a pre-2006 ML for sale around 
here for a while.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Not sure what the deal is, but I haven’t seen a pre-2006 ML for sale around 
here for a while.

-D

> On Jan 16, 2022, at 2:57 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve tried to contact the owner. No luck so far. 
> It looks much better than anything near me. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 12:54 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I saw that one, and considered making a trip to look at it, but it's about 
>> a 2-hour drive and I don't need another SUV right now.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> This would be on my short list if it were closer. 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I’ve tried to contact the owner. No luck so far. 
It looks much better than anything near me. 

AZBob

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> On Jan 16, 2022, at 12:54 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I saw that one, and considered making a trip to look at it, but it's about a 
> 2-hour drive and I don't need another SUV right now.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> This would be on my short list if it were closer. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://evansville.craigslist.org/cto/d/evansville-mercedes-benz-one-owner/7432326945.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bob Rentfro
>>> Nuclear Operations Training Instructor
>>> 5801 South Wintersburg Road, Tonopah, AZ 85354-7529, M.S. 7896
>>> Office 623.393.6372 Cell 623-695-2072
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Re: [MBZ] Why Are These So Far Away

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I saw that one, and considered making a trip to look at it, but it's about a 
2-hour drive and I don't need another SUV right now.


On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> This would be on my short list if it were closer. 
>> 
>> 
>> https://evansville.craigslist.org/cto/d/evansville-mercedes-benz-one-owner/7432326945.html
>>  
>> 
>> Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Sounds like somebody needs to learn how to rebuild his suspension.
Would be easier than convincing everybody with functional suspensions 
that their cars are unsafe.


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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[Clay via Mercedes]

Their opinions do not conform to my experience.  I had the OM603 SDL running at 
80 mph through MT on I-90 and I-94 to cross the state with no issue, other than 
a 3am blizzard that was tossing other cars into the median and ditches.  The 
OM617 in the SD only got lead footed to 80 for long stretches on I-5 for about 
3 hours.  Steady and no runaway.  The OM606na would run at those speeds for 10 
hours at a stretch, tank to tank.  Even the W220 on 24 slogs at 85pmh had no 
issues… only gasser benz I can speak to.  The OM615 was ok blasting along at 
70mph all day long and held 84mph for many minutes (floored) until I chickened 
out and let up.  None unstable at top speeds.


Clay


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> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My favorite
> 
> "The S class gassers (think Euro 500SEL) etc we're designed for the autobahn, 
> but not in their US form, as they are too unstable at speed. Foot to the 
> floor for hours on end will buy you a runaway on most diesels."
> 
> A 560SEC. Unstable at speed.
> A 560SE. Unstable at speed.
> A 300D turbo will runaway if driven above legal speeds for any length of time.
> 
> A. Marshall Booth is rolling over in his grave.
> 
> The misinformation and outright stupidity is astounding.
> 
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

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On 2021-12-30 17:19, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Wow, so the time I drove my (formerly Dwight's) '78 240D from Albany
to Syracuse with my foot on the floor the car was running away the
whole time? That's crazy... /s


My brother's worn out Rabbit would run away if you wound it out to the 
governor limit in a lower gear, wasn't possible to make it start 
happening in 4th because it couldn't go that fast. Once it started 
puking, it'd go about 45mph with no go pedal until it digested all the 
oil spray and settled down again.


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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I drove a Detroit fire engine in the 90's. No choice but to push it hard dn
then idle at the scene. They held up pretty well.  Allison C4 trannies.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 5:21 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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>  Not really, a Detroit wants to be run hard. It's idling the destroys
> them. There are so many in marine use if they ran away from running hard
> there would be a lot more dead boats...
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021, 03:57:14 PM EST, Allan Streib via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  > Foot to the floor for hours on end will buy you a runaway on most
> diesels.
>
> Confusing a Mercedes OM with a Detroit Diesel.
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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes that is myth. I drove my 240D commuting 140 miles RT  for 2 or 3 days a
week for 3 years. Ran middle lane on 3 lanes in MA. Ran it about 80-. In MA
the left lane is 85-90.
Had 300K on it when I sold it. Needed blower and body work. Engine and
trans had M1 only.. My Dad was a truck driver in the 50's. His motto was to
drive it as if you don't  own a bolt on it..
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


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>  Wow, so the time I drove my (formerly Dwight's) '78 240D from Albany to
> Syracuse with my foot on the floor the car was running away the whole time?
> That's crazy... /s
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021, 02:39:59 PM EST, Rick Knoble via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  A 123 isn't designed to run at speed. Neither is the US spec 126. See
> attached screenshot. And no, I'm not obscuring names.
>
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I always heard never lug a Detroit, and never over-rev one. There is like a 
500RPM "happy" range (I may be exaggerating a bit).

Never driven one though.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021, at 5:20 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> 
> Not really, a Detroit wants to be run hard. It's idling the destroys them. 
> There are so many in marine use if they ran away from running hard there 
> would be a lot more dead boats...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021, 03:57:14 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Foot to the floor for hours on end will buy you a runaway on most diesels.
> 
> Confusing a Mercedes OM with a Detroit Diesel.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The Mustang II was a crime against humanity. Whoever okayed that design should 
have been flogged in the center of Detroit.
Same with the new electric Mustang SUV thing. Doesn't tick any of the boxes 
that say "Mustang is cool because". I figure the design discussion went "People 
like Mustangs, people like SUVs. Lets make an SUV Mustang, oooh, and make it 
electric!" As if the average v8 loving, Mustang owning motorhead is suddenly 
going to say "You know what I need, an electric station wagon!"

-Curt

On Thursday, December 30, 2021, 04:59:46 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 One of my wife's cousins had a Mustang II in the early 70's in Chicago. 
He went over a railway crossing and ripped the front crossmember out of 
the car. Totaled!
He replaced it with a Pontiac Fire Chicken.

Randy


On 30/12/2021 3:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> I remember when I was in college my buddy and I took his dad's sedan 
> out, this would have been like a 74 or something, I don't recall which 
> model but it might have been a diesel. Anyway we were out and he was 
> driving quite spiritedly, and we were going down this road with a RR 
> crossing that was humped up a bit, you always had to slow down for 
> it.  Anyway he is cruising along pretty good and I tell him to slow 
> down for the crossing, he says no watch this. We sailed right over it 
> with not the slightest bounce and I was astounded.  I still remember 
> that, it was crazy.
>
> --FT
>
> On 12/30/21 4:36 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> The Mercedes suspension isn't designed for that kind of speed.
>>
>> That's why a US car will break your teeth if you hit a RR crossing at 
>> 60mph while a W116 or W123 just gobbles it up.
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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Not really, a Detroit wants to be run hard. It's idling the destroys them. 
There are so many in marine use if they ran away from running hard there would 
be a lot more dead boats...
-Curt

On Thursday, December 30, 2021, 03:57:14 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 > Foot to the floor for hours on end will buy you a runaway on most diesels.

Confusing a Mercedes OM with a Detroit Diesel.

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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Wow, so the time I drove my (formerly Dwight's) '78 240D from Albany to 
Syracuse with my foot on the floor the car was running away the whole time? 
That's crazy... /s
-Curt

On Thursday, December 30, 2021, 02:39:59 PM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
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 A 123 isn't designed to run at speed. Neither is the US spec 126. See attached 
screenshot. And no, I'm not obscuring names.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

One of my wife's cousins had a Mustang II in the early 70's in Chicago. 
He went over a railway crossing and ripped the front crossmember out of 
the car. Totaled!

He replaced it with a Pontiac Fire Chicken.

Randy


On 30/12/2021 3:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I remember when I was in college my buddy and I took his dad's sedan 
out, this would have been like a 74 or something, I don't recall which 
model but it might have been a diesel. Anyway we were out and he was 
driving quite spiritedly, and we were going down this road with a RR 
crossing that was humped up a bit, you always had to slow down for 
it.  Anyway he is cruising along pretty good and I tell him to slow 
down for the crossing, he says no watch this. We sailed right over it 
with not the slightest bounce and I was astounded.  I still remember 
that, it was crazy.


--FT

On 12/30/21 4:36 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

The Mercedes suspension isn't designed for that kind of speed.

That's why a US car will break your teeth if you hit a RR crossing at 
60mph while a W116 or W123 just gobbles it up.


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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I remember when I was in college my buddy and I took his dad's sedan 
out, this would have been like a 74 or something, I don't recall which 
model but it might have been a diesel. Anyway we were out  and he was 
driving quite spiritedly, and we were going down this road with a RR 
crossing that was humped up a bit, you always had to slow down for it.  
Anyway he is cruising along pretty good and I tell him to slow down for 
the crossing, he says no watch this.  We sailed right over it with not 
the slightest bounce and I was astounded.  I still remember that, it was 
crazy.


--FT

On 12/30/21 4:36 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

The Mercedes suspension isn't designed for that kind of speed.

That's why a US car will break your teeth if you hit a RR crossing at 
60mph while a W116 or W123 just gobbles it up.


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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

The Mercedes suspension isn't designed for that kind of speed.

That's why a US car will break your teeth if you hit a RR crossing at 
60mph while a W116 or W123 just gobbles it up.


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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

There is only so much time I can allocate to pointing out this idiot’s 
fallacies.

Good job summarizing.

-D

> On Dec 30, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My favorite
> 
> "The S class gassers (think Euro 500SEL) etc we're designed for the autobahn, 
> but not in their US form, as they are too unstable at speed. Foot to the 
> floor for hours on end will buy you a runaway on most diesels."
> 
> A 560SEC. Unstable at speed.
> A 560SE. Unstable at speed.
> A 300D turbo will runaway if driven above legal speeds for any length of time.
> 
> A. Marshall Booth is rolling over in his grave.
> 
> The misinformation and outright stupidity is astounding.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

> Foot to the floor for hours on end will buy you a runaway on most diesels.

Confusing a Mercedes OM with a Detroit Diesel.

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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

My favorite

"The S class gassers (think Euro 500SEL) etc we're designed for the autobahn, 
but not in their US form, as they are too unstable at speed. Foot to the floor 
for hours on end will buy you a runaway on most diesels."

A 560SEC. Unstable at speed.
A 560SE. Unstable at speed.
A 300D turbo will runaway if driven above legal speeds for any length of time.

A. Marshall Booth is rolling over in his grave.

The misinformation and outright stupidity is astounding.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have sometimes wondered if that is why the throttle is responsive over its 
entire range of travel, unlike many gassers where 90% of the throttle response 
seems to be in the first 25% of throttle travel and it doesn't seem to have 
much effect beyond that. Note that I've never driven a modern MB gasser so 
maybe they are the same.



On Thu, Dec 30, 2021, at 3:34 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> “Foot on the floor for hours on end…”
>
> This guy has his head up his ass if he’s talking about diesels. That’s 
> exactly what they’re designed for.
>
> He probably has a hood stack on his W123.
>
> -D
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 30, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> A 123 isn't designed to run at speed. Neither is the US spec 126. See 
> attached screenshot. And no, I'm not obscuring names.
>
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Why am I not getting any love on this? Mercedes E500 2006 4Matic - $7, 000 (Jacksonville)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I sent the guy a msg saying replacing the air pump was $140 and about an 
hour of time which should not be much for a Benz guy which he claims to 
be.  He is probably just stupid and wants stupid money for his stupid choice


--FT

On 12/23/21 10:42 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
I can afford to buy an E500, newer and in better condition than this 
one is now, but I can't afford to fix the suspension.


---yeah, that makes me want to pay you money so I can have the joy of 
paying to fix the suspension.

Mitch.

On 2021-12-23 10:29, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Oh, maybe that's why, and the stupid price.  In any case it probably
just needs a new pump or relay, $140

THE ONLY REASON I STOPPED DRIVING IT IS BECAUSE THE AIR SHOCKS WENT
OUT ON ME and I couldn't afford it.

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-mercedes-matic/7424250897.html 



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Re: [MBZ] Why am I not getting any love on this? Mercedes E500 2006 4Matic - $7, 000 (Jacksonville)

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

I can afford to buy an E500, newer and in better condition than this one 
is now, but I can't afford to fix the suspension.


---yeah, that makes me want to pay you money so I can have the joy of 
paying to fix the suspension.

Mitch.

On 2021-12-23 10:29, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Oh, maybe that's why, and the stupid price.  In any case it probably
just needs a new pump or relay, $140

THE ONLY REASON I STOPPED DRIVING IT IS BECAUSE THE AIR SHOCKS WENT
OUT ON ME and I couldn't afford it.

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-mercedes-matic/7424250897.html


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Re: [MBZ] Why do I have bubbles in brake line

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

If you open the bleeders too far they can suck air around the threads and you 
get steady small bubbles. I've only seen that happen when trying to vacuum 
bleed (Miti-Vac) though.

Allan

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Doing a tire rotation, new front pads and calipers, and brake fluid 
> flush. With just a flush, why would I be getting a steady steam of 
> bubbles? Brakes worked just fine and the system has not been opened? 
> This is pressure bleeding then.
>
> While braking front end shook like warped rotors. I went ahead and 
> replaced them but the pads and rotors looked like new. Maybe they were 
> not broken in properly?
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