Re: [MBZ] HURRY BEFORE IT'S GONE!!

2015-07-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What more can I say - it really S**KS!

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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 The Hot Tub Caddy is STILL up for sale!  Hurry!!


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-DeVille-Hot-Tub-Car-/400948245703?forcerrptr=truehash=item5d5a60b4c7item=400948245703#
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-DeVille-Hot-Tub-Car-/400948245703?forcerrptr=truehash=item5d5a60b4c7item=400948245703#
 


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Re: [MBZ] HURRY BEFORE IT'S GONE!!

2015-07-07 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Rich wrote:
 
 First time I have ever seen 1 PVC pipe used as a styling
 element.

Maybe you just don't watch the right sort of styles...

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Re: [MBZ] HURRY BEFORE IT'S GONE!!

2015-07-07 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

'Really gotta find those barf bags!

Wilton

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What more can I say - it really S**KS!

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


The Hot Tub Caddy is STILL up for sale!  Hurry!!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-DeVille-Hot-Tub-Car-/400948245703?forcerrptr=truehash=item5d5a60b4c7item=400948245703#

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-DeVille-Hot-Tub-Car-/400948245703?forcerrptr=truehash=item5d5a60b4c7item=400948245703#



Dan
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Re: [MBZ] HURRY BEFORE IT'S GONE!!

2015-07-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's worse than tasteless - it has negative taste.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:16 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 'Really gotta find those barf bags!

 Wilton

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  What more can I say - it really S**KS!

 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  The Hot Tub Caddy is STILL up for sale!  Hurry!!



 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-DeVille-Hot-Tub-Car-/400948245703?forcerrptr=truehash=item5d5a60b4c7item=400948245703#
 

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-DeVille-Hot-Tub-Car-/400948245703?forcerrptr=truehash=item5d5a60b4c7item=400948245703#
 


 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] HURRY BEFORE IT'S GONE!!

2015-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

What's with all the tape shapes on the sides?

First time I have ever seen 1 PVC pipe used as a styling element.

--R



On 7/6/15 9:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The Hot Tub Caddy is STILL up for sale!  Hurry!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-DeVille-Hot-Tub-Car-/400948245703?forcerrptr=truehash=item5d5a60b4c7item=400948245703#
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-DeVille-Hot-Tub-Car-/400948245703?forcerrptr=truehash=item5d5a60b4c7item=400948245703#


Dan
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Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'm sure I can make it run.  LOL.

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 On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 13:10:36 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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  From the limited description and photos it looks pretty good.  I've
  never seen one of those engines seized, so I'm wondering what the deal
  is there, or if that's really the case.


Motor appears to be siezed. I'm sure I can make it run.

 If the motor really is siezed, he won't be able to make it run without a
 LOT of work!


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 15:59:51 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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 I dropped him a note asking if he as sure it was seized:
 
 Yes...have many years of engine rebuilding in my background.
 
 I wish him well.  Parts for a rebuild will be pricey, I suspect.
 I would look around for another car to get a good running engine.

How about putting a different engine in it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Hard telling without investigating.  Unless there's a picture window in the 
side of the block, who knows what its problem is?

If I came upon a car like this and knew nothing about it, I would first try 
barring it over to see if it would even turn.  After that (if it didn't turn) I 
would run a borescope into the spark plug holes to see if there is anything 
obvious.

The M130s were notorious for having the metal in the margins between the 
cylinder pairs erode on the head side.  The resulting leak into the water 
jacket would allow coolant directly into the cylinder(s).  In most cases this 
would be a long, gradual process, and you would see the symptoms well in 
advance of anything catastrophic occurring.  If not, I guess you could 
hydrolock one or more cylinders and bend a rod.  Never saw it happen, but I 
imagine it could.

Dan




 On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:37 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Seized:
 
 Could he mean the cylinders and rings have rusted together from setting in
 a damp climate and never being run?
 
 On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 15:59:51 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I dropped him a note asking if he as sure it was seized:
 
 Yes...have many years of engine rebuilding in my background.
 
 I wish him well.  Parts for a rebuild will be pricey, I suspect.
 I would look around for another car to get a good running engine.
 
 How about putting a different engine in it?
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Drop the M130 and put this in it:

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/4817240624.html

Dan


 On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hard telling without investigating.  Unless there's a picture window in the 
 side of the block, who knows what its problem is?
 
 If I came upon a car like this and knew nothing about it, I would first try 
 barring it over to see if it would even turn.  After that (if it didn't turn) 
 I would run a borescope into the spark plug holes to see if there is anything 
 obvious.
 
 The M130s were notorious for having the metal in the margins between the 
 cylinder pairs erode on the head side.  The resulting leak into the water 
 jacket would allow coolant directly into the cylinder(s).  In most cases this 
 would be a long, gradual process, and you would see the symptoms well in 
 advance of anything catastrophic occurring.  If not, I guess you could 
 hydrolock one or more cylinders and bend a rod.  Never saw it happen, but I 
 imagine it could.
 
 Dan
 


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Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Seized:

Could he mean the cylinders and rings have rusted together from setting in
a damp climate and never being run?

On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 15:59:51 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  I dropped him a note asking if he as sure it was seized:
 
  Yes...have many years of engine rebuilding in my background.
 
  I wish him well.  Parts for a rebuild will be pricey, I suspect.
  I would look around for another car to get a good running engine.

 How about putting a different engine in it?


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
I have a ’69 280SEL sitting behind my barn with a seized engine.


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 From the limited description and photos it looks pretty good.  I've never 
 seen one of those engines seized, so I'm wondering what the deal is there, or 
 if that's really the case.
 
 Dan
 
 
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 wrote:
 
 ‎You're not going to buy it? 
 You've been wanting a sedan. 
 
 :)
 
 Rick 
 Sent from my BlackBerry Z10
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
From the limited description and photos it looks pretty good.  I've never seen 
one of those engines seized, so I'm wondering what the deal is there, or if 
that's really the case.

Dan


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 ‎You're not going to buy it? 
 You've been wanting a sedan. 
 
 :)
 
 Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎You're not going to buy it? 
You've been wanting a sedan. 

:)

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
There's gotta be a rusted out W108 280SE out there begging to have it's
engine repurposed

On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Drop the M130 and put this in it:

 http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/4817240624.html

 Dan


  On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Hard telling without investigating.  Unless there's a picture window in
 the side of the block, who knows what its problem is?
 
  If I came upon a car like this and knew nothing about it, I would first
 try barring it over to see if it would even turn.  After that (if it didn't
 turn) I would run a borescope into the spark plug holes to see if there is
 anything obvious.
 
  The M130s were notorious for having the metal in the margins between the
 cylinder pairs erode on the head side.  The resulting leak into the water
 jacket would allow coolant directly into the cylinder(s).  In most cases
 this would be a long, gradual process, and you would see the symptoms well
 in advance of anything catastrophic occurring.  If not, I guess you could
 hydrolock one or more cylinders and bend a rod.  Never saw it happen, but I
 imagine it could.
 
  Dan
 


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Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 13:10:36 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 From the limited description and photos it looks pretty good.  I've
 never seen one of those engines seized, so I'm wondering what the deal
 is there, or if that's really the case.



   Motor appears to be siezed. I'm sure I can make it run.

If the motor really is siezed, he won't be able to make it run without a
LOT of work!

Craig


I had a rusted up M180 that would not turn with a big wrench on the 
crank.  Took out the plugs and sprayed a half can of the magic mopar 
rust eater into each cyl.  Next morning it spun like a top.  So free 
it was scary.


If you  do that, you have to be careful to get all the mopar stuff 
out the next day and lube the cylinders good.  I like 90W Hypoid for 
cyl lube/storage.


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Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
 From the limited description and photos it looks pretty good. 
I've never seen one of those engines seized, so I'm wondering what 
the deal is there, or if that's really the case.


Dan


It'd be a nice car with an OM603 in there.  Plenty of room for that engine.

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