Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Darrell W. Sigmon
Meade, try Draw-Tite.com. I know they make a 2000# hitch for the sedan, 
I have one, but I haven't looked for the SW.


DWS

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Shipmates (esp. Der Dieseling Doktor, Dave M., Casey, and other 124 wagon 
owners/experts);

I checked out an '87 300TD this evening, and I'm considering making an offer to 
buy.  The burning question of the moment is 'Can I get a factory trailer hitch 
for this thing?'

Anyone who can help, I'd really appreciate it.  It took me many months to find 
a factory hitch for my '85 wagon, and I'll not switch to a 124 wagon if such a 
hitch is unavailable (rated for 1500 kg).

Thanks in advance,
/s/
Max

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
’85 300TD 321k miles (Euro 5spd)
'96 Infiniti I30 148k miles (wife's 5spd)
'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Joe Knight
It does exist, Max.  Trick is *finding* one on this side of the Pond. 
I picked one up couple of yrs ago in hopes that it would fit my wagon,
but it'll take some modifications to the cross bar  acquisition of
the mounting kit if it's ever to be installed.  Part numbers on this
one weren't at all definitive; I still don't know what model it was
intended for.  Your best bet might be someone in  Europe who's willing
to undertake a little legwork.  I can probably pull up the appropriate
p/n's, but believe me, you won't want to pay for new.

joe

On 7/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Shipmates (esp. Der Dieseling Doktor, Dave M., Casey, and other 124 wagon 
 owners/experts);
 
 I checked out an '87 300TD this evening, and I'm considering making an offer 
 to buy.  The burning question of the moment is 'Can I get a factory trailer 
 hitch for this thing?'
 
 Anyone who can help, I'd really appreciate it.  It took me many months to 
 find a factory hitch for my '85 wagon, and I'll not switch to a 124 wagon if 
 such a hitch is unavailable (rated for 1500 kg).



Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Zeitgeist
I have a sideview printout of the mounting instructions for a 124 wagon 
hitch I downloaded off the web a while back. For the life of me I can't 
figure out what the brand name is, and googling doesn't offer any help 
either. I intend to use this diagram as a design template when I weld up my 
own hitch. I see they still offer a 124 sedan hitch, but I know they mount 
to the body quite differently.

Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k) 
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA


Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Zeitgeist
Hey, what about this unit?

http://www.hitches4less.com/19mer30tein4.html


 Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k) 
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA


Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Loren Faeth
It is still $300 plus mounting and wiring , rustproofing etc.  I think i'd 
just get out the welder and build one.  I'd like one too, if we want to try 
for a group purchase.  Bet we could get orders for 6-12 124 wagon trailer 
hitches.   I 'd have to dig through the files, but I think someone sent 
those interested a drawing to build your own.


At 11:27 PM 7/12/2005, you wrote:

Hey, what about this unit?

http://www.hitches4less.com/19mer30tein4.htmlhttp://www.hitches4less.com/19mer30tein4.html


Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k)
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA
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Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Joe Knight
Might be ok if you're not too much a purist and can stand for the
diminished capacity.  The factory coupling is rated at 1900KG trailed
load and disappears upon removal of the easily detachable ball head. 
Think I'll hold out a while longer.

joe

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 Hey, what about this unit?
 
 http://www.hitches4less.com/19mer30tein4.html



Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Joe Knight
Interestingly, the epc lists a radiator installation kit, 124 500 39
03 for .193  .393 to be used on vehicles w/ a/c and trailed load
exceeding 1500KG.  Is Arne still subscribed, Kaleb?

joe



Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Joe Knight
I think the hitch itself is rated for 1900KG.  That's not to say that
MB has certified that 1900KG is a safe load for the wagons.  IIRC,
Arne's caravan weighed in at considerably more than 1500KG though.

joe

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 Casey, Joe, Loren;
 
 Keep those idea's flowing!  It's curious that the 'hitches-4-less' says it's 
 a class 2, only rated for 2500 lbs, but their FAQ says that class 2 hitches 
 are rated for 3500 lbs.  Hmmm - I guess the manufacturer has downgraded it 
 for this application?
 
 Joe: I've got the 1985 Technical Data for Cars, which includes some data on 
 the first versions of the 124 series (sedan only) and it says that sedans are 
 rated for 1500 kg.  Do you have more recent documentation re: a 1900kg 
 rating, or was that a typo?



Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Joe Knight
The ball/mount is indeed one-piece at 50mm.  That is a limitation.

On 7/13/05, Richard Hattaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 
 One of my issues on 'factory' hitches that I have seen is that the ball
 appears to be welded permanently on the mount.  I have 1 7/8 and 2 inch
 trailers in the yard.  So I require a receiver type hitch to have the
 flexibility to change the ball size.



Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread David Brodbeck
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 8:42:39 -0400, meadedillon wrote
 Keep those idea's flowing!  It's curious that the 'hitches-4-less' 
 says it's a class 2, only rated for 2500 lbs, but their FAQ says 
 that class 2 hitches are rated for 3500 lbs.  Hmmm - I guess the 
 manufacturer has downgraded it for this application?

Yes, probably.  It might be a vehicle limitation.  It can be hard to find
solid enough attachment points for really heavy loads, on unibody cars. 
Tongue weight is often sharply limited, too.  My Volvo was rated for up to
3,300 pounds of towed weight but only 300 pounds of tongue weight, which isn't
very much for a trailer that size.  (Generally you want the tongue weight to
be 10 to 15% of the trailer weight, for stable towing.)



Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

no clue, anybody have his email address?

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Darrell and Joe,

Thanks for the info.  My last choice will be to purchase an aftermarket hitch 
and have it installed by a local shop that has earned my respect (they 
installed the hitch on my 123.190, fabricating missing parts as required using 
the pictures from German language installation instructions).  I would be a lot 
more comfortable going that route if I at least had equivalent installation 
instructions, which were kindly provided by Dr. Becker of Great Britain.

Kaleb - is Dr. Becker still subscribed?  I haven't seen a post from him in a 
couple years.

Max

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
’85 300TD 321k miles (Euro 5spd)
'96 Infiniti I30 148k miles (wife's 5spd)
'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Joe Knight
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How about Arne?  I seem to have lost track of his addy.

joe

On 7/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 no clue, anybody have his email address?



Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Joe Knight
http://henriksens.net/index.php?name=copperminefile=thumbnailsalbum=26
Seems to have pulled the pics he once had up of his hitch, but you
might want to explore the site to see if I've missed them.

Arne used to be subscribed as Arne Henriksen [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Kaleb, if you wouldn't mind checking to see if he's still with us, at
least in spirit.

joe



Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

2005-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, must have got overlooked or something.  I sent him an invite though 
so will see what happens.


Joe Knight wrote:


http://henriksens.net/index.php?name=copperminefile=thumbnailsalbum=26
Seems to have pulled the pics he once had up of his hitch, but you
might want to explore the site to see if I've missed them.

Arne used to be subscribed as Arne Henriksen [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Kaleb, if you wouldn't mind checking to see if he's still with us, at
least in spirit.

joe

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