Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 19:32:15 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Dave M. has a spread sheet of differentials on his website, I know it > covers 124 and 126 cars, don't know that it covers 123 cars. Fred beat me on Dave's file, but here is one from Stu below. Craig == Original source (see post #11): http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php3?t=80104 This is an article from Stu Ritter, of the infamous Ritter/Easeley MB list. Stu is also a veteran MB technician and shop owner, and Technical Editor of MBCA's "The Star" magazine. My comments are followed by "-dm". General info on MB differential setup... if you're thinking of swapping the ring and pinion to change gear ratios, read carefully. -dm There are two ways to change the differential ratio in our MB's. First is to swap the entire differential and the second is to swap out just the ring and pinion for the ratio you want. In order to swap the gears, you must have ALL the measuring tools from MB to set up the pinion seating depth, the backlash and the case spread (bearing preload). While you can cob up some of the tooling you cannot cob up the pinion depth setting arrangement. The zero point for the pinion exists in space, inside the case. The only way to arrive at zero and the deviation from zero etched on the back of the pinion is to have the gauges. You could of course attempt to assemble it and blue the gears and read the pattern and take it apart and put it together, but OHMYGAWD, what work. The factory sets up each ring and pinion in a test jig. This test jig allows the operator to move the pinion in and out of engagement with the ring gear. The purpose is to determine the point of quietest operation. When the gears are at their quietest they also are at the point of maximum mesh and longest wear with most contact. This is the ideal point you are looking for if you blue and pattern a set of gears. The operator of the test jig moves the pinion in and out with microphones pointed at the ring/pinion set. Watching dB meters, the operator finds the quietest point. The test jig is set up so that the deviation from the zero point is noted in hundredths of a millimeter. Your job when setting pinion depth is to match that same point. You can't do it without the MB tools. The measuring tools cost me $3,600 in 1986. I have no idea of what they cost today. As far as I know, RennTech and another shop in Florida along with my olde shop own the measuring tools. There is no other way to change the gears by themselves. Also, when you buy new gears, or take them from a junker, you must also take the ring gear carrier because each ratio uses a different thickness carrier. Keeps the engagement spot the same. So much for the limited appeal of changing ring and pinion. The following describes Stu's process of changing ratios in his 400E (124.034). There are a number of minor technical errors, see my "Edit" notes below. -dm In my car I obtained a 3.07 [gearset] from a 1973 450SL. Let me explain. There are several sizes of differentials used by MB and they care categorized by the oil capacity of the differential, or in other words the size of the case. There are 1, 1.1 (185mm), 1.3 (210mm), and 1.4 liter cases. [Edit: This is not entirely correct. The common case sizes in the 1980's and 1990's are 0.7, 1.1, 1.3, 1.4, and 1.6L. The 0.7L case has 168mm gears. The 1.4L and 1.6L use "reinforced" 210mm gears. There is no 1.0L case. -dm ] The gears are not interchangeable between cases. You must use 1.3 gears in a 1.3 case. The case on the V-8 124 chassis is the 1.3 liter case, used since the first V-8's in 1972. [Edit: True... but although the case fluid capacity is 1.3L, it is NOT the same case as used in the 1970's-1980's W116/W126/R107. You may be able to use the ring & pinion gears, but you can't swap the entire housing. -dm ] The jump from the 1.1 liter case to the 1.3 liter case occurs at 200 horsepower. Everything with over 200 horsepower has the larger gears in the 1.3 liter case. [Edit: The change was based on torque, not horsepower. The W140 S350 diesel only had 134hp, but used the 1.3L case. I believe the change happened when the engine torque rating exceeded approx 210 lb-ft, regardless of HP. -dm ] The 103-engined 124 chassis has the 1.1 liter case. The introduction of the 104 engine in the 300CE brought the 1.3 liter case to the 124 chassis. Every 104 and 119 engined 124 has the 1.3 liter case along with a much beefier rear subframe assembly to hold that 1.3 liter diff. [Edit: Only the M119/W124 had the stronger subframe,
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
Here is the list that I found. Note that probably the diff from a second gen 126 will not bolt into a 123 but the 85 126 will work in the 123. So you have 4 vehicles as donors, the 123 300d, 300cd and 300td and the 126 300sd. All of those are 85's. Compatibility Different final drives The differential is the same on a w1114, w115, w116, w123 and w126 (first generation) a first generation w126 diff will fit on a w114,but wont fit on a 1986 w126. If you are switching to a final drive from a v8 to a car without v8, you have to switch the yoke, and with that the “spacer washer”. Final drive gear ratios R107 1st Generation mounting 1972-1980, 350 SL/SLC, M116, 3.46, 1.1 Liter 1973-1980, 450 SL/SLC, M117, 2.65 / 3.06, 1.3 Liter 1981-1985, 380 SL, M116, 2.47, 1.3 Liter 1981-1982, 380SLC, M116, 2.47, 1.3 Liter 2nd Generation mounting 1986–1989, 560SL, M117, 2.47 / 2.47 ASR / 2.47 LSD, 1.3 Liter w114 1968-1976, 230, M180, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter 1968-1972, 250, M114, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter 1972-1976, 250, M130, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter 1969-1976, 250C/CE, M130, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter 1972-1976, 280/E, M110, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter 1972-1976, 280C/CE, M110, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter w115 1968–1976, 200, M121, 3.92 / 4.08, 1.1 Liter 1968–1976, 200D, OM615, 3.92, 1.1 Liter 1968–1973, 220, M115, 3.92 / 4.08, 1.1 Liter 1968–1976, 220D, OM615.941, 3.92, 1.1 Liter 1973–1976, 230.4, M115, 3.69, 1.1 Liter 1973–1976, 240D, OM616.916, 3.69, 1.1 Liter 1974–1976, 240D 3.0/300D, OM617.910, 3.46, 1.1 Liter w116 1973–1980, 280S/280SE/280SEL, M110, 3.69, 1.1 Liter 1973–1980, 350SE/350SEL, M116, 3.46, 1.1 Liter 1973–1980, 450SE, M117, 3.06 / 3.07, 1.3 Liter 1973–1980, 450SEL, M117, 2.65 / 3.06 / 3.07, 1.3 Liter 1975–1980, 450SEL 6.9, M100, 2.65 LSD, 1.3 Liter 1978–1980, 300SD, OM617.950, 3.07, 1.1 Liter w123 1977–1978, 230, M115, 3.69 (3.58) 1.1 Liter 1977–1983, 240D, OM616.912, 3.69, 1.1 Liter 1977–1981, 280E/280CE M110, 3.58, 1.1 Liter 1977–1985, 300D, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter 1979–1980, 300TD, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter 1981-1984, 300TD, OM617.952, 3.07, 1.1 Liter 1982-1984, 300DT, OM617.952, 3.07, 1.1 Liter 1982–1984, 300CD, OM617.952, 3.07, 1.1 Liter 1985, 300TD, OM617.952, 2.88, 1.1 Liter 1985, 300D, OM617.952, 2.88, 1.1 Liter 1985, 300CD, OM617.952, 2.88, 1.1 Liter Euro Spec w123 1981-1985, 300TD, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter 1982-1985, 300D, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter 1982–1985, 300CD, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter 1978–1985, 240TD, OM616.912, 3.69, 1.1 Liter 1978–1985, 280TE, M110, 3.58, 1.1 Liter w126 1st Generation w126 Years,Model, Engine, Differential Ratio, Differential Case Size 1981-1984, 300 SD, OM617.951 3.0L I5, 3.07, from 10.1984: 2.88, 1.1 Liter 1985, 300 SD, OM617.951 3.0L I5, 2.88, 1.1 Liter 1984-1985, 380 SE+SEL, M116.963 3.8L V8, 3.27, from 1981-10, 2.47, 1.3 Liter 1982-1983, 380 SEC, M116.963 3.8L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter 1984-1985, 500 SE+SEL, M117.963 5.0L V8, 2.82, from 1981-10, 2.24, 1.3 Liter 1984-1985, 500 SEC, M117.963 5.0L V8, 2.24/2.24 LSD (2.47?) 1.3 Liter 2nd Generation w126 Years, Model, Engine, Differential Ratio, Differential Case Size 1989-1991, 300 SE, M103.981 3.0L I6, 3.46 1 Liter 1988-1991, 300 SEL, M103.981 3.0L I6, 3.46, 1 Liter 1986-1987, 300 SDL, OM603.961 3.0L I6, 2.88, 1.1 Liter 1991, 350 SD, OM603.97 3.5L I6, 2.82, 1.3 Liter 1990-1991, 350 SDL, OM603.97 3.5L I6, 2.82, 1.3 Liter 1986-1991, 420 SEL, M116.965 4.2L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter 1986-1991, 560 SEL, M117.968 5.6L V8, 2.47 ASR/2.47, 1.3 Liter 1986-1991, 560 SEC, M117.968 5.6L V8, 2.47 ASR/2.47 LSD/2.47, 1.3 Liter MG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
That's it, thanks Fred! No 126, but it does have 123, 129 and 140. Max Dillon Charleston SC Jul 4, 2020 3:43:19 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes : > Differentials.pdf > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:33 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Dave M. has a spread sheet of differentials on his website, I know it >> covers 124 and 126 cars, don't know that it covers 123 cars. >> >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
Congrats Mike, sounds like great work! Bravo! Max Dillon Charleston SC Jul 4, 2020 4:38:21 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes : > I just put the drivetrain (engine, transmission and rear end) from a 84 300D > into my 83 240D. The rear end I used was a 3.07. It is working out very > well. Plenty of pull in the lower gears and high end cruise at 70 to 80 is > pretty comfortable. Huge difference from the 3.69 rear end I had in the 240. > Improved my 0-60 mph from 23 seconds to 14. > > Also, had the AC converted to cross flow condenser and Sanderson compressor. > It is working great and stays nice cool even when idling at the stoplights. > Temps in western Michigan have been in the low to mid 90’s this week. Thanks > again to Dan for connection to Klima Kits. > > My hope is I will enjoy this car for many years. > > Mike > >> On Jul 4, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> On Sat, July 4, 2020 3:42 pm, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote: >>> Differentials.pdf >> >> Hmm, would a 3.46 from a non turbo 300D be an upgrade for a 240D in a >> world with 70+ speed limits? >> >> Looks like a 1987 300D diff would do what Karl wants, maybe with a rear >> cover change if he puts it in a W115/W123. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
I just put the drivetrain (engine, transmission and rear end) from a 84 300D into my 83 240D. The rear end I used was a 3.07. It is working out very well. Plenty of pull in the lower gears and high end cruise at 70 to 80 is pretty comfortable. Huge difference from the 3.69 rear end I had in the 240. Improved my 0-60 mph from 23 seconds to 14. Also, had the AC converted to cross flow condenser and Sanderson compressor. It is working great and stays nice cool even when idling at the stoplights. Temps in western Michigan have been in the low to mid 90’s this week. Thanks again to Dan for connection to Klima Kits. My hope is I will enjoy this car for many years. Mike > On Jul 4, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Sat, July 4, 2020 3:42 pm, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote: >> Differentials.pdf > > Hmm, would a 3.46 from a non turbo 300D be an upgrade for a 240D in a > world with 70+ speed limits? > > Looks like a 1987 300D diff would do what Karl wants, maybe with a rear > cover change if he puts it in a W115/W123. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
On Sat, July 4, 2020 3:42 pm, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote: > Differentials.pdf Hmm, would a 3.46 from a non turbo 300D be an upgrade for a 240D in a world with 70+ speed limits? Looks like a 1987 300D diff would do what Karl wants, maybe with a rear cover change if he puts it in a W115/W123. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
On Sat, July 4, 2020 2:16 pm, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote: > Yes, that would be quite expensive to ship! I am not sure how much one > would weigh? I don't know, but $50 plus shipping has got to be less than $250. Problem is, the halfshafts are holding the oil in it so opening it up, draining the fluid and pulling the axles would be a bit of work/mess. Hmm, lets make that $50 plus $25 packing plus actual freight. I'll have to double box it and bag it. Looks like Car-part.com is treating 1976-1979 differentials differently from 1980+. The later ones give search results including W124 and W126. That's probably the annular vs homokinetic axles, but that doesn't mean anything other than the newer ones they probably leave the axle flanges on the diff. I think mine's an older one. Unfortunately I can't remember what it came off from, other than it was an automatic 240D and I'm 90% sure it was W123. Cheapest ones on car-part that list a price are $175 in San Jose, California for pre-1980. Do they have Pick-A-Part yards around Portland? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
Differentials.pdf On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:33 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dave M. has a spread sheet of differentials on his website, I know it > covers 124 and 126 cars, don't know that it covers 123 cars. > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred differentials.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
Dave M. has a spread sheet of differentials on his website, I know it covers 124 and 126 cars, don't know that it covers 123 cars. Max Dillon Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
Ok thanks. Pretty sure all the non turbo cars were different. I will look for a technical manual but if you can check the stamped number on the diff I would appreciate it Kevin. On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 11:08 AM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I found a 240D parts car that has everything I need for mine, the > driver’s seat, windshield, and possibly other things I might find. The > person is selling it since the differential went out. everything else seems > to work but the AC, so when I pick it up on Monday, I will have to make a > decision to either part it out or just replace the differential and put it > up for sale. unlike mine, it is the fancier one with the sunroof and power > windows. > Kevin and Hillsboro, Oregon > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 4, 2020, at 9:58 AM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > You need an MB Technical Data book for the 123. My oldest one covers the > > 107, 124, 126 and 201, from 1985 to 1988, sorry. > > > >> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 9:46 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Yes it is from an 85 300td. I think it has a taller diff than other 123 > cRs > >> because the 1st gear for 85 is lower. Thanks for checking. Kinda > surprised > >> it went but the stethoscooe doesnt lie. > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 4:25 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Karl asks: > >>> > Looks like the diff is gone. Anybody have a 2.88 they would part with > >>> > >>> If that is from a 1985, maybe. > >>> Give me a day or two to look. > >>> > >>> Rick > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > > Von Braun > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
Check with Greyhound. They do large parcels for cheap. -D > On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes, that would be quite expensive to ship! I am not sure how much one would > weigh? I have contact information from a guy that offered one for $250 to the > lady selling the 240D if I decide to go that route. My new guide dog is > currently in training until around the new year, and my wife’s guide dog > isn’t very good in the passenger seat since he would rather just look around > than give me proper directions! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 4, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> And here I was, getting ready to jokingly offer Karl an old W123 240D diff >> I have, as a 3.69 or whatever it is will surely get off the line quicker >> than a 2.88... >> >> But shipping a diff from Cathey's house or Klebville would probably be >> cheaper than from Michigan. >> >> Maybe stick a seeing eye dog in the passenger seat and come get it? I'll >> let you have it for free if you pick it up in person. >> >>> On Sat, July 4, 2020 1:08 pm, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote: >>> I found a 240D parts car that has everything I need for mine, ... The >>> person is selling it since the differential went out. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
Yes, that would be quite expensive to ship! I am not sure how much one would weigh? I have contact information from a guy that offered one for $250 to the lady selling the 240D if I decide to go that route. My new guide dog is currently in training until around the new year, and my wife’s guide dog isn’t very good in the passenger seat since he would rather just look around than give me proper directions! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > And here I was, getting ready to jokingly offer Karl an old W123 240D diff > I have, as a 3.69 or whatever it is will surely get off the line quicker > than a 2.88... > > But shipping a diff from Cathey's house or Klebville would probably be > cheaper than from Michigan. > > Maybe stick a seeing eye dog in the passenger seat and come get it? I'll > let you have it for free if you pick it up in person. > >> On Sat, July 4, 2020 1:08 pm, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote: >> I found a 240D parts car that has everything I need for mine, ... The >> person is selling it since the differential went out. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
And here I was, getting ready to jokingly offer Karl an old W123 240D diff I have, as a 3.69 or whatever it is will surely get off the line quicker than a 2.88... But shipping a diff from Cathey's house or Klebville would probably be cheaper than from Michigan. Maybe stick a seeing eye dog in the passenger seat and come get it? I'll let you have it for free if you pick it up in person. On Sat, July 4, 2020 1:08 pm, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote: > I found a 240D parts car that has everything I need for mine, ... The > person is selling it since the differential went out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
I found a 240D parts car that has everything I need for mine, the driver’s seat, windshield, and possibly other things I might find. The person is selling it since the differential went out. everything else seems to work but the AC, so when I pick it up on Monday, I will have to make a decision to either part it out or just replace the differential and put it up for sale. unlike mine, it is the fancier one with the sunroof and power windows. Kevin and Hillsboro, Oregon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2020, at 9:58 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > You need an MB Technical Data book for the 123. My oldest one covers the > 107, 124, 126 and 201, from 1985 to 1988, sorry. > >> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 9:46 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Yes it is from an 85 300td. I think it has a taller diff than other 123 cRs >> because the 1st gear for 85 is lower. Thanks for checking. Kinda surprised >> it went but the stethoscooe doesnt lie. >> >> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 4:25 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Karl asks: >>> Looks like the diff is gone. Anybody have a 2.88 they would part with >>> >>> If that is from a 1985, maybe. >>> Give me a day or two to look. >>> >>> Rick >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
You need an MB Technical Data book for the 123. My oldest one covers the 107, 124, 126 and 201, from 1985 to 1988, sorry. On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 9:46 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes it is from an 85 300td. I think it has a taller diff than other 123 cRs > because the 1st gear for 85 is lower. Thanks for checking. Kinda surprised > it went but the stethoscooe doesnt lie. > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 4:25 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > Karl asks: > > > > >Looks like the diff is gone. Anybody have a 2.88 they would part with > > > > If that is from a 1985, maybe. > > Give me a day or two to look. > > > > Rick > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
I had to replace a W123 diff once. It was noisy and I had a parts car, so... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
Yes it is from an 85 300td. I think it has a taller diff than other 123 cRs because the 1st gear for 85 is lower. Thanks for checking. Kinda surprised it went but the stethoscooe doesnt lie. On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 4:25 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Karl asks: > > >Looks like the diff is gone. Anybody have a 2.88 they would part with > > If that is from a 1985, maybe. > Give me a day or two to look. > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
I’ve got to knacker this 79 TD. No idea what it has in it. I have one from like an 84ish 126 but no idea if that would work. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 3, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Karl asks: > >> Looks like the diff is gone. Anybody have a 2.88 they would part with > > If that is from a 1985, maybe. > Give me a day or two to look. > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?
Karl asks: >Looks like the diff is gone. Anybody have a 2.88 they would part with If that is from a 1985, maybe. Give me a day or two to look. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
