Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-09 Thread Kevin Kraly
And the doors at the grocery say "No dogs except for seeing eye dogs."
Think about it.

I guess it's there to inform those who bring pet doggies into the store.  My 
seeing eye dog (Guide Dog) Joel reads all of the signs and can tell when 
lights are red or green too :-)!  I've just got to get him to be able to 
figure out which pedal is for the brakes and which one gives her Diesel.

Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
1999 Male Black Labrador Guide Dog, 250Kmi, Joel
PS.  He really has a mean, ferocious growl when you step on him! 


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Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Gary Hurst
i always bring my dog into those places

On 7/8/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And the doors at the grocery say "No dogs except for seeing eye dogs."
> Think about it.
>
> --R
>
> Tom Hargrave wrote:
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Since you mentioned the fact that blind people can't drive & it's a
> stupid
> > law then why do many drive up ATM's have Braille imprinted on their
> keypads?
> >
> > Here's another one, but not blind related. Wal-Mart sells a product in
> their
> > pet department called "breeding grass". It's an artificial plant that
> floats
> > upside down in the tank & is designed to baby give guppies a place to
> hide
> > so that momma does not eat them. This statement is printed on the side
> of
> > the box: "Always supervise your pet when playing with this product".
> >
> > And my point in all of this ranting? Maybe you are less blind then some
> of
> > our legislators???
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Hargrave
> > www.kegkits.com
> > 256-656-1924
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
And the doors at the grocery say "No dogs except for seeing eye dogs."  
Think about it.

--R

Tom Hargrave wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> Since you mentioned the fact that blind people can't drive & it's a stupid
> law then why do many drive up ATM's have Braille imprinted on their keypads?
>
> Here's another one, but not blind related. Wal-Mart sells a product in their
> pet department called "breeding grass". It's an artificial plant that floats
> upside down in the tank & is designed to baby give guppies a place to hide
> so that momma does not eat them. This statement is printed on the side of
> the box: "Always supervise your pet when playing with this product".
>
> And my point in all of this ranting? Maybe you are less blind then some of
> our legislators???
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>  
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
Got it, I think. Posing is as important as power?

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

which people here would tell you was really powerful.  because it's a
mercedes.  but more horsepower in a a chevy of similar size is weak.
because it's a chevy . get it?

On 7/8/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Gary Hurst wrote:
> >
> > to my mind, 174hp out of 2.4 liter naturally aspirated motor with a lot
> of
> > torque is A ROCKET by any means.
>
> Beats my Cosworth tuned 2.3L 190E by 7hp.
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Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
Kevin,

Since you mentioned the fact that blind people can't drive & it's a stupid
law then why do many drive up ATM's have Braille imprinted on their keypads?

Here's another one, but not blind related. Wal-Mart sells a product in their
pet department called "breeding grass". It's an artificial plant that floats
upside down in the tank & is designed to baby give guppies a place to hide
so that momma does not eat them. This statement is printed on the side of
the box: "Always supervise your pet when playing with this product".

And my point in all of this ranting? Maybe you are less blind then some of
our legislators???

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any
domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

to my mind, 174hp out of 2.4 liter naturally aspirated motor with a lot of
torque is A ROCKET by any means.

Well, I guess it's because "I" haven't driven it to see what it could 
actually do (blind people can't drive, stupid law! -:).  Mama doesn't really

put her foot into it no matter how much I want her to do it.  It must have 
quite a lot of power in reserve.  Her PT Cruiser which preceded the HHR had 
150HP out of a 2.4L DOHC 16 valve 4 cylinder with 167LbFt of torque, IIRC. 
If these engines were in lighter cars rather than pulling 3200LB around, , 
zippy would be an understatement!

Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Gary Hurst
which people here would tell you was really powerful.  because it's a
mercedes.  but more horsepower in a a chevy of similar size is weak.
because it's a chevy . get it?

On 7/8/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Gary Hurst wrote:
> >
> > to my mind, 174hp out of 2.4 liter naturally aspirated motor with a lot
> of
> > torque is A ROCKET by any means.
>
> Beats my Cosworth tuned 2.3L 190E by 7hp.
>
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Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Mitch Haley


Gary Hurst wrote:
> 
> to my mind, 174hp out of 2.4 liter naturally aspirated motor with a lot of
> torque is A ROCKET by any means.

Beats my Cosworth tuned 2.3L 190E by 7hp.

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Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Kevin Kraly
to my mind, 174hp out of 2.4 liter naturally aspirated motor with a lot of
torque is A ROCKET by any means.

Well, I guess it's because "I" haven't driven it to see what it could 
actually do (blind people can't drive, stupid law! -:).  Mama doesn't really 
put her foot into it no matter how much I want her to do it.  It must have 
quite a lot of power in reserve.  Her PT Cruiser which preceded the HHR had 
150HP out of a 2.4L DOHC 16 valve 4 cylinder with 167LbFt of torque, IIRC. 
If these engines were in lighter cars rather than pulling 3200LB around, , 
zippy would be an understatement!

Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
so is the 5.7 350 v8

LWB250 wrote:
> The 3.8l V-6 is the M617 of the GM world.  It's built
> like a brick doghouse, and can be run into the ground.
> 
> Dan
>
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Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread LWB250
The 3.8l V-6 is the M617 of the GM world.  It's built
like a brick doghouse, and can be run into the ground.

Dan


--- Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> as the average customer for a buick park avenue is
> 104 years old, however, 
> few people really know this.
> 
> A friend of mine in his late 40's used to sell
> Buicks, and he had a Park 
> Avenue Ultra for a while.  He did believe in the
> 3.8L engine.  He had a '92 
> Century that had some other V6 (3.3L IIRC) that was
> also a good runner, but 
> was a bit "coarser" since it didn't have any balance
> shafts.
> 
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Kevin Kraly
as the average customer for a buick park avenue is 104 years old, however, 
few people really know this.

A friend of mine in his late 40's used to sell Buicks, and he had a Park 
Avenue Ultra for a while.  He did believe in the 3.8L engine.  He had a '92 
Century that had some other V6 (3.3L IIRC) that was also a good runner, but 
was a bit "coarser" since it didn't have any balance shafts.

Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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