Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.

2005-10-17 Thread Steve MacSween
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> If I told you the number of times the 74 cherokee had water flushed from the
> diff from going through water, you'd be surprised. You'd be even more
> surprised that the axle lasted only 340k miles before being rebuilt.

Diffs don't have synchros to get stuck and break

Mac




Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.

2005-10-17 Thread Kevin
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 11:47:32AM -0400, Steve MacSween wrote:
> I was offered it for parts. Pity, the car's body was apparently near mint
> before the flood. I want it for the 4spd transmission, but my wrench advised
> you have to drain the gearbox and if any water comes out, run away. 

Why? As long as the water hasn't been in there long enough to rust the
gears together, it should be fine. You'll need to flush it a few times to get
the mayonnaise out if the 240D transmissions use motor oil as lube. You might
have to get creative to get the thing clean, but the more clever you are 
the less it will cost you. You said there was a rod through the block before
the flood, so it most likely wasn't run under its own power with the gearbox
full of water.

If I told you the number of times the 74 cherokee had water flushed from the
diff from going through water, you'd be surprised. You'd be even more 
surprised that the axle lasted only 340k miles before being rebuilt. 

K



Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.

2005-10-14 Thread Steve MacSween
Sorry, engine had a rod thru the block before the flood. Seller is keeping
the head. Car is near Ottawa, ON.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> A manual tranny may be OK..As long as it wasn't run since the flooding
> if the price is right i wouldn't worry too much.  Is the engine still there?
> I need a decent running 240D engine for cheap.  So what if you have to pull
> the pan and clean things out for the right price.  Where is it?
> 
> Mike
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve MacSween" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.
> 
> 
>> By purest coincidence, I can answer that, having just seen a 240d flood
>> car
>> in person (total flood, up to top of dash for about three days), two years
>> after it was flooded.
>> 
>> The wood appeared perfectly normal, actually better than my two 240Ds.
>> (Albeit this was fresh water.)
>> 
>> I was offered it for parts. Pity, the car's body was apparently near mint
>> before the flood. I want it for the 4spd transmission, but my wrench
>> advised
>> you have to drain the gearbox and if any water comes out, run away. As I
>> have no handy way to tip a w123 on its side, the vendor and I are in a
>> Mexican SO right now.
>> 
>> Mac
>> 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> I think if it had been under water the wood would appear delaminated. The
>>> photo of the underside seems normal, so I would guess the fading and
>>> cracking in the finish is due solely to solar UV.
>>> 
>>> On 10/13/05, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On this auction is the wood look like that because of sun or water?
>>>> 
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CONSOLE-
>>>> TRIM-COVER-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33705QQitemZ8006448525QQrdZ1
>>>> If you look at his other auctions you see one that looks "normal"
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CLIMATE-
>>>> CONTROL-TRIM-
>>>> NICE_W0QQitemZ8006450901QQcategoryZ40017QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
>>>> wItem
>>>> 
>>>> yet he has another
>>>> 
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CLIMATE-
>>>> CONTROL-TRIM-
>>>> NICE_W0QQitemZ8006451802QQcategoryZ40017QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
>>>> wItem
>>>> 
>>>> which looks like the centre console one, or is it just sun glare on
>>>> item in the photo?
>>>> 
>>>> PS "North Alabama"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> ===
>>>> John M. McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1-800-477-2659
>>>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>>>> 
>>>> ===
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Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.

2005-10-14 Thread Potter, Tom E
Years ago I worked in marine construction. We were always sinking
workboats and flooding the engines. We would raise the boat, change the
oil in the engine and fire it up. However, there were few electronics on
the old Detroit Diesel 6-71 and 6-110 engines. I think if you can get
the water out of the engine or transmission soon after the flooding,
they should be OK. I would not touch flooded electronics though.

Thomas E. Potter
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Canfield
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:56 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.


A manual tranny may be OK..As long as it wasn't run since the
flooding 
if the price is right i wouldn't worry too much.  Is the engine still
there? 
I need a decent running 240D engine for cheap.  So what if you have to
pull 
the pan and clean things out for the right price.  Where is it?

Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve MacSween" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.


> By purest coincidence, I can answer that, having just seen a 240d
flood 
> car
> in person (total flood, up to top of dash for about three days), two
years
> after it was flooded.
>
> The wood appeared perfectly normal, actually better than my two 240Ds.
> (Albeit this was fresh water.)
>
> I was offered it for parts. Pity, the car's body was apparently near
mint
> before the flood. I want it for the 4spd transmission, but my wrench 
> advised
> you have to drain the gearbox and if any water comes out, run away. As
I
> have no handy way to tip a w123 on its side, the vendor and I are in a
> Mexican SO right now.
>
> Mac
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I think if it had been under water the wood would appear delaminated.
The
>> photo of the underside seems normal, so I would guess the fading and
>> cracking in the finish is due solely to solar UV.
>>
>> On 10/13/05, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On this auction is the wood look like that because of sun or water?
>>>
>>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CONSOLE-
>>>
TRIM-COVER-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33705QQitemZ8006448525QQrdZ1
>>> If you look at his other auctions you see one that looks "normal"
>>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CLIMATE-
>>> CONTROL-TRIM-
>>>
NICE_W0QQitemZ8006450901QQcategoryZ40017QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
>>> wItem
>>>
>>> yet he has another
>>>
>>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CLIMATE-
>>> CONTROL-TRIM-
>>>
NICE_W0QQitemZ8006451802QQcategoryZ40017QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
>>> wItem
>>>
>>> which looks like the centre console one, or is it just sun glare on
>>> item in the photo?
>>>
>>> PS "North Alabama"
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>

>>> ===
>>> John M. McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1-800-477-2659
>>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.
http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>>>

>>> ===
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Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.

2005-10-14 Thread Mike Canfield
A manual tranny may be OK..As long as it wasn't run since the flooding 
if the price is right i wouldn't worry too much.  Is the engine still there? 
I need a decent running 240D engine for cheap.  So what if you have to pull 
the pan and clean things out for the right price.  Where is it?


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve MacSween" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.


By purest coincidence, I can answer that, having just seen a 240d flood 
car

in person (total flood, up to top of dash for about three days), two years
after it was flooded.

The wood appeared perfectly normal, actually better than my two 240Ds.
(Albeit this was fresh water.)

I was offered it for parts. Pity, the car's body was apparently near mint
before the flood. I want it for the 4spd transmission, but my wrench 
advised

you have to drain the gearbox and if any water comes out, run away. As I
have no handy way to tip a w123 on its side, the vendor and I are in a
Mexican SO right now.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I think if it had been under water the wood would appear delaminated. The
photo of the underside seems normal, so I would guess the fading and
cracking in the finish is due solely to solar UV.

On 10/13/05, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On this auction is the wood look like that because of sun or water?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CONSOLE-
TRIM-COVER-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33705QQitemZ8006448525QQrdZ1
If you look at his other auctions you see one that looks "normal"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CLIMATE-
CONTROL-TRIM-
NICE_W0QQitemZ8006450901QQcategoryZ40017QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
wItem

yet he has another

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CLIMATE-
CONTROL-TRIM-
NICE_W0QQitemZ8006451802QQcategoryZ40017QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
wItem

which looks like the centre console one, or is it just sun glare on
item in the photo?

PS "North Alabama"


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Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.

2005-10-14 Thread Steve MacSween
By purest coincidence, I can answer that, having just seen a 240d flood car
in person (total flood, up to top of dash for about three days), two years
after it was flooded.

The wood appeared perfectly normal, actually better than my two 240Ds.
(Albeit this was fresh water.)

I was offered it for parts. Pity, the car's body was apparently near mint
before the flood. I want it for the 4spd transmission, but my wrench advised
you have to drain the gearbox and if any water comes out, run away. As I
have no handy way to tip a w123 on its side, the vendor and I are in a
Mexican SO right now.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I think if it had been under water the wood would appear delaminated. The
> photo of the underside seems normal, so I would guess the fading and
> cracking in the finish is due solely to solar UV.
> 
> On 10/13/05, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> On this auction is the wood look like that because of sun or water?
>> 
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CONSOLE-
>> TRIM-COVER-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33705QQitemZ8006448525QQrdZ1
>> If you look at his other auctions you see one that looks "normal"
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CLIMATE-
>> CONTROL-TRIM-
>> NICE_W0QQitemZ8006450901QQcategoryZ40017QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
>> wItem
>> 
>> yet he has another
>> 
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CLIMATE-
>> CONTROL-TRIM-
>> NICE_W0QQitemZ8006451802QQcategoryZ40017QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
>> wItem
>> 
>> which looks like the centre console one, or is it just sun glare on
>> item in the photo?
>> 
>> PS "North Alabama"
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> ===
>> John M. McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1-800-477-2659
>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>> 
>> ===
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.

2005-10-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
I think if it had been under water the wood would appear delaminated. The
photo of the underside seems normal, so I would guess the fading and
cracking in the finish is due solely to solar UV.

On 10/13/05, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On this auction is the wood look like that because of sun or water?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CONSOLE-
> TRIM-COVER-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33705QQitemZ8006448525QQrdZ1
> If you look at his other auctions you see one that looks "normal"
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CLIMATE-
> CONTROL-TRIM-
> NICE_W0QQitemZ8006450901QQcategoryZ40017QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
> wItem
>
> yet he has another
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W-124-300E-BURL-WOOD-CLIMATE-
> CONTROL-TRIM-
> NICE_W0QQitemZ8006451802QQcategoryZ40017QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
> wItem
>
> which looks like the centre console one, or is it just sun glare on
> item in the photo?
>
> PS "North Alabama"
>
>
> --
> 
> ===
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> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
> 
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