Re: Browser Close Workaround?

2001-06-18 Thread Pierre Sahores

Hi Scott,

> Recently, Pierre Sahores wrote:
> 
> >>> Has anyone found a workaround for the situation where a browser that was
> >>> launched from an MC stack is closed when MC is quit?
> >> What about making and launching a .bat file which then launches the browser?
> >>
> >> Just a thought,
> >> Sjoerd
> >
> > An applescript must be able to do the job under MacOS and launch the "killall
> > -1
> > netscape" sh script from within Metacard if you are running unixes.
> 
> Thanks for the above suggestions.  I'm curious what the "-1" means for the
> kill command?  I can't seem to find a reference for the number.

In the killall command (Linux form of the BSD-like kill command), it's just the
num of the signal that will be send (see the man pages for more).

> In any event, my immediate need is some method on Windows to prevent a
> browser opened (launched) by MC from closing when MC is quit.  The annoying
> thing is, my client has several Windows 98 machines where this behavior
> already occurs and I can't figure out why.  If their machines are broken,  I
> need to find a way to "break" any machine that my stack runs on. :-)

Sorry but i don't figure me how to do that under win32 for yet - no working at
all under win32, those last six months... ;-)

> Thanks & Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> 
> Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web: www.tactilemedia.com

Regards, Pierre Sahores

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Re: FTP downloads

2001-06-18 Thread slord

As Scott mentioned, mirrors are good but not if people update 
them willy nilly.  The best method would be to write up a script 
that would maintain the files automatically for you.  You can 
tie it in with cron or any number of tricks.  I'm sure there is 
some sort of GPL mirroring tool out there.  I'll have a look and 
see if I find anything...

PS: Richard, been seeing you on the Adobe Golive list, ever sign 
up with OutActions?  They just set up a list today:  
http://www.outactions.com/forum/

The kid is a crack genius, I send him ideas and he builds them 
for me (he gets all the money).  He's built 3 things on my 
ideas and also offers a customized one I made related to opening 
an image in a new window (see:  
http://www.outactions.com/forum/ ).  He doesn't list it because 
he feels guilty, but if ask for it he'll send you one that does 
the same thing for QT movies...

On Monday, June 18, 2001, at 04:56 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Actually, Scott is dying for mirrors.  If anyone here
>> understands the high cost of bandwidth (it's expensive after
>> 50gig+).  I'm sure if the mirrors are properly setup then that
>> would help him a lot.
>
> What would be needed to establish a satisfactory mirror?  I 
> havbe space and
> bandwidth, and would be willing to help.
>
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Re: Visual Basic -- too complex?

2001-06-18 Thread Richard Gaskin

Jacqueline Landman Gay wrote:

> There is an article on Yahoo about the changes in MS Visual Basic's next
> incarnation as Visual Basic.Net, and how those changes are upsetting
> long-time developers:
> 
> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20010615/tc/visual_basic_net_is_it_too_complex
> __1.html
> 
> Seems like a good time for them to hear about MetaCard, maybe.

Once we have multi-column lists and database binding, they might listen;
database connectivity seems to be one of the main uses of VB.

Also, so much of VB work is as a shell to run ActiveX components (there are
several thousand of them available), so the relatively closed world of MC
might be a hard sell to a crowd used to plug-n-play extensibility (I have to
admit it's kinda cool to drop the IE component onto a form and have your own
embedded browser, however limited and single-platform it might be).

Just the same, it can't hurt to prowl such groups and drop in the
occassional relevant comment

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Re: FTP downloads

2001-06-18 Thread Richard Gaskin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Actually, Scott is dying for mirrors.  If anyone here
> understands the high cost of bandwidth (it's expensive after
> 50gig+).  I'm sure if the mirrors are properly setup then that
> would help him a lot.

What would be needed to establish a satisfactory mirror?  I havbe space and
bandwidth, and would be willing to help.

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 Fourth World Media Corporation
 Multimedia Design and Development for Mac, Windows, UNIX, and the Web
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Re: FTP downloads

2001-06-18 Thread Scott Raney

LiangTyan Fui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here is a temporally "mirror" site that you may try:
> 
> http://www.magix.com.my/tmp/linux.tgz
> http://www.magix.com.my/tmp/MacOS.sit
> http://www.magix.com.my/tmp/README.2.4
> http://www.magix.com.my/tmp/Win32.zip
> 
> I hope I did not violence MetaCard copyright.

Thanks, there's no problem with redistributing these files under the
Starter Kit license.

> BTW: Is this a right time for us to have a few mirror site for MetaCard
> download?

We'd encourge this *if* you can commit to keeping the mirrors updated.
We've used mirrors in the past but this has always been a significant
problem: The only thing worse than a slow download from the main
server is getting the wrong version from a mirror, a problem made
worse when it's new potential customers who run into it because they
don't know what version they're supposed to be getting.

Does anyone else regularly have problems accessing or downloading from
ftp.metacard.com?  We check it periodically and other than occasional
delays logging in during peak times, we've never seen any trouble with
it.  If you do have trouble, it'd be good to run "ping" and/or
"traceroute" to see if the problem is with the server itself or with
some part of the path between it and you (i.e., slow downloads are
often caused by overloaded routers between you and the server, and
you'll see this as dropped packets in ping and missing time values
when using traceroute).
  Regards,
Scott

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