RE: Interconnecting Metacard apps via sockets...
Using different ports per stack could help here... Rest to manage which stack uses which port... Just an idea... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Bovill Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 16:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Interconnecting Metacard apps via sockets... From: Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Interconnecting Metacard apps via sockets... At 10:04 PM +0100 8/14/01, David Bovill wrote: I am looking for a way to interconnect apps running on the same machine (on any platform), and thinking of using sockets. I will be programming the basic modules in MC, but want to leave the door open for modules to be coded in other languages, and on other machines... Why are the apps separate if they are talking on the same computer? Why not incorporate one into the other? I want to create an environment where the apps don't care where the programmes are - and where central server resources can be customised using local applications. The environment also needs to allow programmes other than those written in MC to communicate - hence sockets. I kinda know what I want to do - create (or use) a socket/http router with a DNS type local database. Any comments on this idea - anyone done it? Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: go stack
Actually I have two questions and, of course, two requests for help. :) I have a go stack it line in a standalone. It refers to another standalone. It doesn't go to the second standalone. If the it variable points to a stack which hasn't been converted to a standalone it works. Is this normal? A standalone is an application not a stack anymore, try launching it. Second, I'm trying to create an autostart hybrid CD using Toast on a Mac. I wrote an autorun.inf file with the lines: [autorun] OPEN=autostart.exe using SimpleText. I place the .inf file at the root of the WinDoz side of the CD and the autostart.exe standalone at the root level as well. It doesn't work. When I double-click the autostart.exe standalone from within My Computer the standalone runs just fine. When I open the inf file on the widows the file consists of a single line [autorun] OPEN=autostart.exe with black square blocks between the [autorun] and the OPEN=autostart.exe and immediately following the OPEN=autostart.exe. I assume the blocks are in fact return characters and so the OS must interpret the file as having two lines. Can I write the inf file on the Mac using Simpletext or does it have to be written on the windows side? Is the command OPEN=autostart.exe case sensitive? ::: :: PLAN!! I'd rather be surprised. :: F.A. (Rick) Rice, Instructor [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Div. of Sciences and Health Sciences Phone: (250) 828-5424 :: The University College of the Cariboo Fax: (250) 828-5450 :: 900 McGill Road :: Box 3010 :: Kamloops, BC :: V2C 5N3 ::: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list. . Regards, Andu __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Calling all apps!
If you've been to the Apps pages at MetaCard.com http://www.metacard.com/apps.html, you may have noticed that your application isn't there. :) If the true number of shipping apps built with MC were represented on those pages, it would make a very powerful statement about why we all prefer MetaCard. What reflects well on MetaCard reflects well on all of our work. While Scott's busy polishing MC 2.4, I've volunteered to help him with an update to the Apps pages at his site. Please please please consider adding your MetaCard-based app -- here's how: 1. Visit http://www.metacard.com/apps.html to get a feel for the length and nature of content people provide there (usually two or three paragraphs describing how MC made a difference with that project). 2. Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the following info: - Screen shot, with a width of 300 and a maximum height of 247 in GIF format (JPEG generally doesn't compress as well or look as good for screen shots, and PNG is still not widely supported among browsers). - The text you want displayed there. It need not be in HTML, but if you want to include mailto's or links to your site and/or product page please note clearly in your text where you want those to appear. - Include a note as to which category you'd like it to appear in. If you feel it should be listed in more than one category, please list both of them with an explanation. Also, it may be useful to consider expanding the categories there. Currently we have: - SAMPLE APPLICATIONS MetaCard/MetaTalk functionality demos - PRODUCT DEMOS Demos of commercial apps and simulations of software or other products - EDUCATIONAL SOFTWARE AND COURSEWARE - PRODUCTION APPLICATIONS Commercial or in-house tools applications - GAMES Do you feel these categories are clear and complete? How would you like to see them improved? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Multimedia Design and Development for Mac, Windows, UNIX, and the Web _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 ICQ#60248349Fax: 323-225-0716 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
delete on array elements does not delete key (2.4b4)
Consider the following: put 1 into bob[a] put 1 into bob[b] put the keys of bob a b delete bob[b] put the keys of bob a b I think when you use delete on an array element it should remove the element completely including the key (rather than just deleting the value of the key). Comments? Rodney -- -- Rodney Tamblyn Educational Media group Higher Education Development Centre, 75 Union Place University of Otago, PO Box 56, Dunedin, New Zealand ph +64 3 479 7580 Fax +64 3 479 8362 http://hedc.otago.ac.nz ~ http://rodney.weblogs.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
designers nightmare, and how to avoid it...
Hi folks, can someone give me a clue, what i might do wrong? I am trying to set the FontSmoothing on Win with setregistry. The key is hkey_current_user\control panel\desktop\Fontsmoothing I set tit to 1, if it is something else. The result is empty, so it looks like no error occured. But even after restarting Win, the screen fonts are still jaggy as hell. (See the subject...) Do i miss something, or do you really have to set it manually in the control panel Display ??? Any enlightenments are extremely appreciated. Thanks in advance. Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] MetaScape GmbH Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: delete on array elements does not delete key (2.4b4)
Rodney Tamblyn wrote: I think when you use delete on an array element it should remove the element completely including the key (rather than just deleting the value of the key). Comments? I think the way it works now is more consistent with other structures. For example, you can have an empty item or an empty line in a list, which does mean something. I have used arrays where I test whether an element is empty or not; if it is, I perform a different action than if it isn't. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: delete on array elements does not delete key (2.4b4)
I agree, thought I did find a place where I really would have liked delete to erase the key. I used a numerically indexed array as a stack (think state machine) which I wrote push and pop handlers for. Worked nicely, except when I popped off elements I wanted to use extents(myArray) to find out where the top of the stack was. Unfortunately this never shrinks even when I delete elements, so I had to create my own counter. Not a huge deal, but it was rather confusing at first. Brian I think the way it works now is more consistent with other structures. For example, you can have an empty item or an empty line in a list, which does mean something. I have used arrays where I test whether an element is empty or not; if it is, I perform a different action than if it isn't. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: designers nightmare, and how to avoid it...
Klaus Major wrote/ schreef: Do i miss something, or do you really have to set it manually in the control panel Display ??? What is the value after you set it in Display? Regards, Sjoerd Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
good article
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/01q3/metadata/metadata-1.html Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Cross platform IAC (was: Interconnecting Metacard
From: MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:55:43 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Interconnecting Metacard apps via sockets... Using different ports per stack could help here... Rest to manage which stack uses which port... Just an idea... What happens/any way to use localhost to connect stacks via sockets on the same machine? 1) Does the computer have to be connected to the internet? 2) Does the TCP/IP stuff have to configured properly by the user? 3) What are the cross platform issues? 4) Will connecting to a local socket trigger a dialup connection on some OS's? Any help on this really appreciated... I'm curious as to what you're after, and not just to have stacks interact via sockets but a more specific explanation such as why and what benefits do you expect. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list. . Regards, Andu __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: good article
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/01q3/metadata/metadata-1.html Which reminds me: I read articles about the strong points of UNIX, Linux, BSD, Mac OSX or plain, but never came across something similar regarding windows except the number of users. Nevertheless, following the evolution of Linux on desktops it is obvious to me that the fundamental model was windows not Mac despite its recognized superior user experience. Amazingly, the much disputed browser-desktop integration microsoft was rightfully accused of became standard feature on Linux. The cancer of windows office applications became desirable model to be followd in all its bloat. That tells me that most Linux UI developers were primarily windows users until they saw the light (but not all of it;-), and most concerning of all, the fact that microsoft by dominating the desktop world wide, implicitly controls at least partially what and how people think and/or create. No one can argue that a guy in front of windows 8 hours a day year after year doesn't have his general perception and logic affected about what the environment should look like or how it should work. That guy will definitely carry his baggage of thinking and working as well as his visual preferences in the rest of his life beyond the computer. Regards, Andu __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
delete on array elements does not delete key
The point here is that delete should delete, rather than just being a shorthand for put empty into in some situations. As far as consistency goes, Jacqueline is at least partially correct. Consider delete with a variable: global largeData globalNames() - list will not include largeData put 1 into largeData globalNames() - list will include largeData delete largeData globalNames() - list will still include largeData But this is hardly consistent with other delete operations: delete field 1 delete file filespec -- -- Rodney Tamblyn Educational Media group Higher Education Development Centre, 75 Union Place University of Otago, PO Box 56, Dunedin, New Zealand ph +64 3 479 7580 Fax +64 3 479 8362 http://hedc.otago.ac.nz ~ http://rodney.weblogs.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Digest metacard.v004.n434
-- BEGIN metacard.v004.n434 -- 001 - MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] - RE: Interconnecting Metacard apps via sockets... 002 - Rodney Tamblyn rodney@st - delete on array elements does not delete key (2.4b4) 003 - Klaus Major kmajor@metas - designers nightmare, and how to avoid it... 004 - Beruvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Re: go stack 005 - David Bovill david.bovil - Cross platform IAC (was: Interconnecting Metacard apps via so 006 - Jacqueline Landman Gay j - Re: delete on array elements does not delete key (2.4b4) 007 - Andu [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Re: delete on array elements does 008 - Richard Gaskin Ambassado - Calling all apps: Addendum 009 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Re: delete on array elements does not delete key (2.4b4) 010 - Richard Gaskin Ambassado - Strategies for creating Browser-renderable HTML in MC This is the MetaCard mailing list. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send any bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list. --- MESSAGE metacard.v004.n434.1 --- From: MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Interconnecting Metacard apps via sockets... Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:55:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using different ports per stack could help here... Rest to manage which stack uses which port... Just an idea... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Bovill Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 16:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Interconnecting Metacard apps via sockets... From: Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Interconnecting Metacard apps via sockets... At 10:04 PM +0100 8/14/01, David Bovill wrote: I am looking for a way to interconnect apps running on the same machine (on any platform), and thinking of using sockets. I will be programming the basic modules in MC, but want to leave the door open for modules to be coded in other languages, and on other machines... Why are the apps separate if they are talking on the same computer? Why not incorporate one into the other? I want to create an environment where the apps don't care where the programmes are - and where central server resources can be customised using local applications. The environment also needs to allow programmes other than those written in MC to communicate - hence sockets. I kinda know what I want to do - create (or use) a socket/http router with a DNS type local database. Any comments on this idea - anyone done it? Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list. --- MESSAGE metacard.v004.n434.2 --- From: Rodney Tamblyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: delete on array elements does not delete key (2.4b4) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:03:50 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consider the following: put 1 into bob[a] put 1 into bob[b] put the keys of bob a b delete bob[b] put the keys of bob a b I think when you use delete on an array element it should remove the element completely including the key (rather than just deleting the value of the key). Comments? Rodney -- -- Rodney Tamblyn Educational Media group Higher Education Development Centre, 75 Union Place University of Otago, PO Box 56, Dunedin, New Zealand ph +64 3 479 7580 Fax +64 3 479 8362 http://hedc.otago.ac.nz ~ http://rodney.weblogs.com --- MESSAGE metacard.v004.n434.3 --- From: Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: designers nightmare, and how to avoid it... Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:31:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, can someone give me a clue, what i might do wrong? I am trying to set the FontSmoothing on Win with setregistry. The key is hkey_current_user\control panel\desktop\Fontsmoothing I set tit to 1, if it is something else. The result is empty, so it looks like no error occured. But even after restarting Win, the screen fonts are still jaggy as hell. (See the subject...) Do i miss something, or do you really have to set it manually in the control panel Display ??? Any enlightenments are extremely appreciated. Thanks in advance. Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] MetaScape GmbH --- MESSAGE metacard.v004.n434.4 --- From: Beruvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: go stack Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:13:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL
Re: delete on array elements does not delete key
Rodney Tamblyn wrote: The point here is that delete should delete, rather than just being a shorthand for put empty into in some situations. I see now. You are looking at the terminology itself rather than the function of the term. I promised not to criticize terminology on the list any more. :) But... equally awkward is delete stack -- which sometimes does, and sometimes doesn't. And woe to the developer who forgets which is which. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
A little troublesome script
Hi gals and guys, Here's a little troublesome script... This is in a button, when pressed, the button hilites itself non-stop forever (the type command I presume) instead of typing the text in the field as expected. Ctrl C doesn't work (yeah, im stuck doing windows). Closing the stack is the only thing that does... I suppose there's a good reason (probably the traversal...) but I can't spend too much time on this... Question is: Is it normal behavior? It sure is unexpected... on mouseUp put fld HistoryChanges into HC -- ;) put the short date into todaysdate put line 3 of HC into lastDateEntry if lastDateEntry is not todaysdate then type todaysdate return return before line 3 of fld HistoryChanges else type return before line 4 of fld HistoryChanges end if end mouseUp Thanks Xavier Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
