RE: Grouping with lists in a script

2003-03-09 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On  Sat, 08 Mar 2003 Chipp Walters wrote:


 Hi William,

 You can either create the objectList by selecting the objects you wish to
 group, then issuing the single command group as in..

 on mouseUp
   select control 1 and control 2
   group
 end mouseUp

 or if you don't want to select, you can use the 'and' concatenator as in..

 on mouseUp
   group control 1 and control 2 and control 3
 end mouseUp

 -Chipp


Hi Chipp,

Thanks very much for the response, but what you suggest is exactly what
I tried to *avoid* because of the great number of controls.

I had the understanding that the list-option of the group command was
an option to automate the tedious process to concatenate manually  a
huge number of crontols in the script editor.

This is what the Metatalk Reference says:

Syntax: group c

where c stands for a list, explained by an if-statement:

If a list of controls  is supplied, those controls will be added to
the new group.

If list here would just mean the concatenated sequence of controls
names or numbers in a script - explicitly written down one after the
other -, this extra option would be meaningless.

I tried to put the contatenated sequence of control names into a
variable fieldlist by means of a repeat loop.
Then, group fieldlist - both with an and-sequence as you suggested
and a vertical order of controls as lines - only produced errors.

What finally worked, as I already indicated, was to put group as the
first word into the repeat-loop generated variable fieldlist and then
put the do-command before the variable with the script:

put groupthe name of fld 1 into Fieldlist
   repeat with i = 2 to 100
 put Spaceandthe name of fld i after last word of Fieldlist
   end repeat
  do Fieldlist .-

The question remains, is there a special structure for the list-option
or is the information of the MetaTalk Reference merely tautological,
i.e. repeating in a fuzzy way what already had been stated?

If the latter is the case then the sentence:

If a list of controls  is supplied, those controls will be added to
the new group.

would indeed be superfluous and misleading.

Thanks and regards,

Wilhelm





group c

 Description:

 The group comand makes a set of selected controls into a
 group/background.
 If a list of controls  is supplied, those controls will be added to
 the new group.
==
Although there is a workaround (see the quotation below), I am still
curious to know how to produce a list as in

group c of the Metatalk Reference, where c stands for a list of
controls.

The Revolution Transcript Dictionary, which sometimes gives more
detailed information about matters of usage, does not mention the option

to use group with a list.

Well, anybody out there that has an idea?

Thanks in advance,

Wilhelm Sanke

On Tuesday, March 4th, I wrote:

 Subject: Grouping with lists in a script

 I needed to make a greater number of controls into a group by script.

 MetaTalk Reference (182) provides this information:

 Syntax:

 group c

 Description:

 The group comand makes a set of selected controls into a
 group/background.
 If a list of controls  is supplied, those controls will be added to
 the new group.


 I tried various forms of lists and put them into a variable
 fieldlist, but then

 group fieldlist failed each time.

 Two forms of lists I tried - generated in a repeat-loop - were

 fld 1
 fld 2
 fld 3
 

 and

 fld 1 and fld 2 and fld 3...

 What finally worked after some experimenting was using  the do
 command, like in

  put groupthe name of fld 1 into Fieldlist
   repeat with i = 2 to 100
 put Spaceandthe name of fld i after last word of Fieldlist
   end repeat
  do Fieldlist

 What am I missing in setting up the list structure for using the
 information about grouping in the MetaTalk Reference?


 Regards,

 Wilhelm Sanke




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Re: Grouping with lists in a script

2003-03-09 Thread miscdas
[snip}
I had the understanding that the list-option of the group command was
an option to automate the tedious process to concatenate manually  a
huge number of crontols in the script editor. 

This is what the Metatalk Reference says: 

Syntax: group c 

where c stands for a list, explained by an if-statement: 

If a list of controls  is supplied, those controls will be added to
the new group. 

If list here would just mean the concatenated sequence of controls
names or numbers in a script - explicitly written down one after the
other -, this extra option would be meaningless. 

I tried to put the contatenated sequence of control names into a
variable fieldlist by means of a repeat loop.
Then, group fieldlist - both with an and-sequence as you suggested
and a vertical order of controls as lines - only produced errors. 

The question remains, is there a special structure for the list-option
or is the information of the MetaTalk Reference merely tautological,
i.e. repeating in a fuzzy way what already had been stated? 

If the latter is the case then the sentence: 

If a list of controls  is supplied, those controls will be added to
the new group. 

would indeed be superfluous and misleading. 

Thanks and regards, 

Wilhelm

I think the entry for this in the MetaTalk Reference needs to be updated to 
clarify the very issue you raised. Intuitvely, when I encounter the term 
list, I think of a group of items that have a common delimiter, enabling 
me to buld a list in a rather simple manner. My first go-'round with this 
was to try to prepare a string comprising the list of controls, trying 
different delimiters. Of course, that totally didn't work. I finally settled 
on the concatenation method demonstrated in the docs. (But I still don't 
like it.)
miscdas
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Re: Grouping with lists in a script

2003-03-09 Thread miscdas
[snip]
Wilhelm Sanke writes: 

On  Sun, 09 Mar 2003,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


Intuitvely, when I encounter the term
list, I think of a group of items that have a common delimiter, enabling
me to buld a list in a rather simple manner.
miscdas 

The whole thing boils down to the problem, that even a list -
concatenated with and - does not work, if you generate it in a
repeat-loop and put it in into a variable. 

Regards, 

Wilhelm Sanke
=
When I said ...to 'buld' a list in a rather simple manner, I was refering 
to methods such as your repeat loop. This was one of the ways I tried 
without success as well. The documentation needs explicit examples, such as 
yours, of what works AND of what doesn't work. 

miscdas
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RE: Radius VV codec

2003-03-09 Thread xbury . cs
AFAIK, Radius only dev'ed for Mac and made their codecs available only for
their video cards (way back then...)
I've never seen a PC Radius codec. ;(

Maybe there is some source code? But doubtful...

 -Original Message-
 From: Schiller, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 13:22
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: Radius VV codec
 
 
 Hi debdoot,
 
 I am searching for a windows version of the Radius VV codec...
 and found your thread on
 http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/2002-June/001813.html
 I have the old Mac Radius VV codec if you want it.
 - do you have a windows one or know where I can find it?
 
 thanks
 
 Mark Schiller
 
 
 
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