mc can't open stack - mc can't save stack

2005-10-21 Thread Reinhold Venzl-Schubert

Hi!

I wrote a script to export some cards of a stack A:
It creates a new stack B, copies the cards from A to B and save stack  
B after it.


I repeated this process several times with different cards and  
different stacks B1, B2, B3 and so on.


Later I tried to copy the cards of stack B1, B2, ... back to stack A.  
Most of the stacks B1, B2, ... could be opened and imported well, but  
one of the stacks can't not be opened with the importscript that I  
wrote. In the fileselector this strange stack is grey colored instead  
of black, so that I can't select it.


I can open this strange stack directly with mc, but than I could not  
save them again later.
I get the error message: Can't save stack, error was: can't open  
stack backup file.
The icons of the strange stack is different. It is a page with sharp  
bend at the right top, but it is empty, without the symbol of metacard.


Do anybody has an idea, what might be the reason for this strange  
behavior?


Reinhold

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mc can't open stack - mc can't save stack 2

2005-10-21 Thread Reinhold Venzl-Schubert
Hi!I can open this strange stack directly with mc, but than I could not save them again later.I get the error message: "Can't save stack, error was: can't open stack backup file."The icons of the strange stack is different. It is a page with sharp bend at the right top, but it is empty, without the symbol of metacard.Just now I see, that metacard can open this strang stack only with 2lz3.mc, the plugin of Klaus Major (Hi ;-)Reinhold___
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Re: mc can't open stack - mc can't save stack 3

2005-10-21 Thread J. Landman Gay

Reinhold Venzl-Schubert wrote:


I found the reason myself: The filename was too long!!!


I sure wish they'd fix that. It comes up all the time.

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Re: Save stack as...

2002-10-12 Thread Shari

What happens if you:
   set the destroyStack of stack origStack to true
   close stack origStack
   wait for messages -- to assure that the mem-resident copy was destroyed
   delete file origStack
   save stack newerStack as origStack
   delete file newerStack

??

Phil

I think I found the difficulty, or at least part of it.  The full 
objective is to replace older versions of a stack, with newer 
versions.  I put version numbers on the scripts.

# see which stack is newer version, replace if necessary, delete oldest version

  exit to top # testing where the error occurs

   put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack streetStack into 
origStack  # version number
   put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack newGold into 
installStack  # version number

THE ERROR INITIALLY OCCURS HERE
I get a purge memory, and it opens the stacks.  Apparently it cannot 
retrieve the script of a stack, without opening the stack?

   exit to top # testing where the error occurs

   if installStack  origStack then
 # replace file goldstreet

 delete file streetStack
  save stack newGold as streetStack
 delete file newGold

 # set the destroyStack of stack streetStack to true
 # close stack streetStack
 # wait for messages # to assure that the mem-resident copy was destroyed
 # delete file streetStack
 # save stack newGold as streetStack
 # delete file newGold

   else
 # delete new goldstreet
 delete file newGold
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Re: Save stack as...

2002-10-12 Thread Shari

*sigh*  One problem leads to another

Now it works without dialogs or opening windows, but it appears to be 
using the script from streetStack in both cases.  It doesn't seem to 
be purging the info, because the stacks have different version 
numbers, but when I test it with answer, the version numbers are 
the same, from the first stack.

I tried using a custom property instead of a script for storing 
version numbers.  No difference.


# see which stack is newer version, replace if necessary, delete oldest version
   lock screen
   lock messages
   # put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack streetStack into origStack
   put the gVersion of stack streetStack into origStack
   close stack streetStack
   wait for messages
   # put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack newGold into installStack
   put the gVersion of stack newGold into installStack
   close stack newGold
   wait for messages
   set the lockMessages to false
   unlock screen

   wait for messages
   answer installStack  origStack
   exit to top
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Re: Save stack as...

2002-10-12 Thread Shari

Tried turning the lock messages off, as a test.  Now it retrieves the 
correct info.  But we're back to the purge dialog, and opening the 
stack.

This is really peeving me!  It should be so blasted simple.




# see which stack is newer version, replace if necessary, delete oldest version
   lock screen
   # lock messages
   # put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack streetStack into origStack
   put the gVersion of stack streetStack into origStack
   close stack streetStack
   wait for messages
   # put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack newGold into installStack
   put the gVersion of stack newGold into installStack
   close stack newGold
   wait for messages
   set the lockMessages to false
   unlock screen

   wait for messages
   answer installStack  origStack
   exit to top
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Re: Save stack as...

2002-10-12 Thread Ken Ray
Shari,

You're right... you can't get the script of a stack or even check the custom
properties of a closed stack without opening it. Best approach is to lock
messages, open the stack invisibly, get the script, close it (making sure
its destroystack and destroywindow are true), and then run the rest of your
script.

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- Original Message -
From: Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Save stack as...


 What happens if you:
set the destroyStack of stack origStack to true
close stack origStack
wait for messages -- to assure that the mem-resident copy was
destroyed
delete file origStack
save stack newerStack as origStack
delete file newerStack
 
 ??
 
 Phil

 I think I found the difficulty, or at least part of it.  The full
 objective is to replace older versions of a stack, with newer
 versions.  I put version numbers on the scripts.

 # see which stack is newer version, replace if necessary, delete oldest
version

   exit to top # testing where the error occurs

put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack streetStack into
 origStack  # version number
put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack newGold into
 installStack  # version number

 THE ERROR INITIALLY OCCURS HERE
 I get a purge memory, and it opens the stacks.  Apparently it cannot
 retrieve the script of a stack, without opening the stack?

exit to top # testing where the error occurs

if installStack  origStack then
  # replace file goldstreet

  delete file streetStack
   save stack newGold as streetStack
  delete file newGold

  # set the destroyStack of stack streetStack to true
  # close stack streetStack
  # wait for messages # to assure that the mem-resident copy was
destroyed
  # delete file streetStack
  # save stack newGold as streetStack
  # delete file newGold

else
  # delete new goldstreet
  delete file newGold
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Re: Save stack as...

2002-10-12 Thread Ken Ray
Shari,

Try:

-- assumes 'streetStack' is the full filename to the stack
lock messages
open inv stack streetStack
put the gVersion of stack streetStack into origStack
close stack streetStack -- make sure destroyStack/destroywindow are true
delete file streetStack
save stack newGold as streetStack

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- Original Message -
From: Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Save stack as...


 Tried turning the lock messages off, as a test.  Now it retrieves the
 correct info.  But we're back to the purge dialog, and opening the
 stack.

 This is really peeving me!  It should be so blasted simple.

 


 # see which stack is newer version, replace if necessary, delete oldest
version
lock screen
# lock messages
# put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack streetStack into
origStack
put the gVersion of stack streetStack into origStack
close stack streetStack
wait for messages
# put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack newGold into installStack
put the gVersion of stack newGold into installStack
close stack newGold
wait for messages
set the lockMessages to false
unlock screen

wait for messages
answer installStack  origStack
exit to top
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Re: Save stack as...

2002-10-12 Thread Shari
Try:

-- assumes 'streetStack' is the full filename to the stack
lock messages
open inv stack streetStack
put the gVersion of stack streetStack into origStack
close stack streetStack -- make sure destroyStack/destroywindow are true
delete file streetStack
save stack newGold as streetStack

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Didn't quite do it but it gave me ideas to try.  My next programming 
day is Wednesday, so I'll be quiet for a few days :-)

I did solve a biggie today :-)  One of my beta testers for Phase I 
reported that nothing worked.  Talk about a bummer.  And on my 
birthday of all days.

He was testing on OSX and my first thought was, oh man, you mean it 
doesn't work on OSX??

But he tried the Classic version and got the same result (bigger 
bummer, you mean it only works on MY computer)

But it turned out to be a very small bug.  An option he chose that 
put 0 into a variable that should have been a very large number.

He figured it out on his own, to uncheck that option, and now he's 
happily testing away :-)

Interesting that my best luck with beta testers always come from my 
Macintosh Users Group.  So far I've gotten not one word of feedback 
from the beta testers who surfed into my website and applied.

I'm sitting on the Windows version until I know all is well with the 
Mac version.  Decided it's better to get one of them out the door, 
and THEN take time for the other one.

Current project (streetStack etc.) is a plug in for Phase I.  An 
addition.  Rather than trusting people to install the newer stacks 
(they may have a combination, where this stack is newer but that one 
is older), I'm creating an installer button that deletes the oldest 
stacks and replaces with the newest ones.

Well I'm off to celebrate my birthday :-)

Shari C



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Re: Save stack as...

2002-10-12 Thread Shari
Not quite there, but figured something out (birthday postponed an 
hour or so more... the fella is still at work and they won't let go 
of him).

As both stacks have the same name, they are the same stack with a few 
minor changes, so they are versioned differently...

I tried setting the name of one of the stacks to something else, 
before retrieving the script, and that seems to have prevented the 
purge dialog.  The purge dialog was causing the second stack to open, 
visibly, regardless of lock screen, invisible, etc.

So I think we're on our way to a solution...

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Re: Save stack as...

2002-10-12 Thread Ken Ray
Happy Birthday, Shari!  Have a great one...

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- Original Message - 
From: Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Save stack as...


 Try:
 
 -- assumes 'streetStack' is the full filename to the stack
 lock messages
 open inv stack streetStack
 put the gVersion of stack streetStack into origStack
 close stack streetStack -- make sure destroyStack/destroywindow are true
 delete file streetStack
 save stack newGold as streetStack
 
 Ken Ray
 Sons of Thunder Software
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
 
 
 Didn't quite do it but it gave me ideas to try.  My next programming 
 day is Wednesday, so I'll be quiet for a few days :-)
 
 I did solve a biggie today :-)  One of my beta testers for Phase I 
 reported that nothing worked.  Talk about a bummer.  And on my 
 birthday of all days.
 
 He was testing on OSX and my first thought was, oh man, you mean it 
 doesn't work on OSX??
 
 But he tried the Classic version and got the same result (bigger 
 bummer, you mean it only works on MY computer)
 
 But it turned out to be a very small bug.  An option he chose that 
 put 0 into a variable that should have been a very large number.
 
 He figured it out on his own, to uncheck that option, and now he's 
 happily testing away :-)
 
 Interesting that my best luck with beta testers always come from my 
 Macintosh Users Group.  So far I've gotten not one word of feedback 
 from the beta testers who surfed into my website and applied.
 
 I'm sitting on the Windows version until I know all is well with the 
 Mac version.  Decided it's better to get one of them out the door, 
 and THEN take time for the other one.
 
 Current project (streetStack etc.) is a plug in for Phase I.  An 
 addition.  Rather than trusting people to install the newer stacks 
 (they may have a combination, where this stack is newer but that one 
 is older), I'm creating an installer button that deletes the oldest 
 stacks and replaces with the newest ones.
 
 Well I'm off to celebrate my birthday :-)
 
 Shari C
 
 
 
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Save stack as...

2002-10-11 Thread Shari
The goal:

To replace a stack that exists, with a newer version of the same stack.

The full filepaths to the stacks are in the variables, and the stacks 
are in different directories.

delete file origStack
save stack newerStack as origStack
delete file newerStack

This prompts the a stack exists, do you want to purge or save 
dialog.  Even though the stacks were all originally closed.  How do I 
bypass the dialog?   I don't want to open the stacks.  I simply want 
to replace file origStack with file newerStack, deleting the unneeded 
copies.  And do this behind the scenes.

Anybody?


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Re: Save stack as...

2002-10-11 Thread Ken Ray
Shari,

You need to make sure the destroyStack and destroyWindow of the stack is set
to true. This way it should purge itself as soon as it's closed.

Ken Ray
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From: Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 6:57 PM
Subject: Save stack as...


 The goal:

 To replace a stack that exists, with a newer version of the same stack.

 The full filepaths to the stacks are in the variables, and the stacks
 are in different directories.

 delete file origStack
 save stack newerStack as origStack
 delete file newerStack

 This prompts the a stack exists, do you want to purge or save
 dialog.  Even though the stacks were all originally closed.  How do I
 bypass the dialog?   I don't want to open the stacks.  I simply want
 to replace file origStack with file newerStack, deleting the unneeded
 copies.  And do this behind the scenes.

 Anybody?


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Re: Save stack as...

2002-10-11 Thread Phil Davis
What happens if you:
  set the destroyStack of stack origStack to true
  close stack origStack
  wait for messages -- to assure that the mem-resident copy was destroyed
  delete file origStack
  save stack newerStack as origStack
  delete file newerStack

??

Phil

- Original Message - 
From: Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:57 PM
Subject: Save stack as...


 The goal:
 
 To replace a stack that exists, with a newer version of the same stack.
 
 The full filepaths to the stacks are in the variables, and the stacks 
 are in different directories.
 
 delete file origStack
 save stack newerStack as origStack
 delete file newerStack
 
 This prompts the a stack exists, do you want to purge or save 
 dialog.  Even though the stacks were all originally closed.  How do I 
 bypass the dialog?   I don't want to open the stacks.  I simply want 
 to replace file origStack with file newerStack, deleting the unneeded 
 copies.  And do this behind the scenes.
 
 Anybody?
 
 
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Re: Save stack as...

2002-10-11 Thread Shari
Shari,

You need to make sure the destroyStack and destroyWindow of the stack is set
to true. This way it should purge itself as soon as it's closed.

Ken Ray


They are.  Both boxes in the stack object dialog are checked.
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