save file
Title: save file
Hi all,
Here is a strange problem I stumbled upon.
In my app I use a safe save procedure to save datafiles created by the app, used to save a datafile that was opened earlier, with the same name; and hence the file already exists on disk (the common situation if you opened for example a Word file, makes some changes, and selects Save from the File menu).
System: OSX4
- first I create some temporary file name (let's say tName)
- next I rename the file on disk (let's say fName) to tName
- next I save the file from the app as fName, setting the filetype to my app's creator and file type 4 character strings.
- finally I delete file tName
Works perfectly! Except...
If the file is at the start up disk, and I try to reopen the file (with the filetype to correct four character code of course), it's disabled (grayed). Actually, creator and filetype are all question marks. If the file is at any other place (another hard disk, the desktop, a folder on the startup disk), no problem; not grayed and creator and filetype have the correct characters.
Stated simple: if the file is at the startup disk, the creator and type become question marks; if it is anywhere else, creator and type codes are correct. A save procedure without replacing ('save as') always yields correct creator and filetypes.
Anybody any idea?
Wil Dijkstra
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mc can't open stack - mc can't save stack
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Re: mc can't open stack - mc can't save stack 3
Reinhold Venzl-Schubert wrote: I found the reason myself: The filename was too long!!! I sure wish they'd fix that. It comes up all the time. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Save stack as...
What happens if you: set the destroyStack of stack origStack to true close stack origStack wait for messages -- to assure that the mem-resident copy was destroyed delete file origStack save stack newerStack as origStack delete file newerStack ?? Phil I think I found the difficulty, or at least part of it. The full objective is to replace older versions of a stack, with newer versions. I put version numbers on the scripts. # see which stack is newer version, replace if necessary, delete oldest version exit to top # testing where the error occurs put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack streetStack into origStack # version number put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack newGold into installStack # version number THE ERROR INITIALLY OCCURS HERE I get a purge memory, and it opens the stacks. Apparently it cannot retrieve the script of a stack, without opening the stack? exit to top # testing where the error occurs if installStack origStack then # replace file goldstreet delete file streetStack save stack newGold as streetStack delete file newGold # set the destroyStack of stack streetStack to true # close stack streetStack # wait for messages # to assure that the mem-resident copy was destroyed # delete file streetStack # save stack newGold as streetStack # delete file newGold else # delete new goldstreet delete file newGold end if -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Save stack as...
*sigh* One problem leads to another Now it works without dialogs or opening windows, but it appears to be using the script from streetStack in both cases. It doesn't seem to be purging the info, because the stacks have different version numbers, but when I test it with answer, the version numbers are the same, from the first stack. I tried using a custom property instead of a script for storing version numbers. No difference. # see which stack is newer version, replace if necessary, delete oldest version lock screen lock messages # put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack streetStack into origStack put the gVersion of stack streetStack into origStack close stack streetStack wait for messages # put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack newGold into installStack put the gVersion of stack newGold into installStack close stack newGold wait for messages set the lockMessages to false unlock screen wait for messages answer installStack origStack exit to top -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Save stack as...
Tried turning the lock messages off, as a test. Now it retrieves the correct info. But we're back to the purge dialog, and opening the stack. This is really peeving me! It should be so blasted simple. # see which stack is newer version, replace if necessary, delete oldest version lock screen # lock messages # put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack streetStack into origStack put the gVersion of stack streetStack into origStack close stack streetStack wait for messages # put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack newGold into installStack put the gVersion of stack newGold into installStack close stack newGold wait for messages set the lockMessages to false unlock screen wait for messages answer installStack origStack exit to top -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Save stack as...
Shari, You're right... you can't get the script of a stack or even check the custom properties of a closed stack without opening it. Best approach is to lock messages, open the stack invisibly, get the script, close it (making sure its destroystack and destroywindow are true), and then run the rest of your script. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Save stack as... What happens if you: set the destroyStack of stack origStack to true close stack origStack wait for messages -- to assure that the mem-resident copy was destroyed delete file origStack save stack newerStack as origStack delete file newerStack ?? Phil I think I found the difficulty, or at least part of it. The full objective is to replace older versions of a stack, with newer versions. I put version numbers on the scripts. # see which stack is newer version, replace if necessary, delete oldest version exit to top # testing where the error occurs put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack streetStack into origStack # version number put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack newGold into installStack # version number THE ERROR INITIALLY OCCURS HERE I get a purge memory, and it opens the stacks. Apparently it cannot retrieve the script of a stack, without opening the stack? exit to top # testing where the error occurs if installStack origStack then # replace file goldstreet delete file streetStack save stack newGold as streetStack delete file newGold # set the destroyStack of stack streetStack to true # close stack streetStack # wait for messages # to assure that the mem-resident copy was destroyed # delete file streetStack # save stack newGold as streetStack # delete file newGold else # delete new goldstreet delete file newGold end if -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Save stack as...
Shari, Try: -- assumes 'streetStack' is the full filename to the stack lock messages open inv stack streetStack put the gVersion of stack streetStack into origStack close stack streetStack -- make sure destroyStack/destroywindow are true delete file streetStack save stack newGold as streetStack Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Save stack as... Tried turning the lock messages off, as a test. Now it retrieves the correct info. But we're back to the purge dialog, and opening the stack. This is really peeving me! It should be so blasted simple. # see which stack is newer version, replace if necessary, delete oldest version lock screen # lock messages # put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack streetStack into origStack put the gVersion of stack streetStack into origStack close stack streetStack wait for messages # put word 3 of line 1 of the script of stack newGold into installStack put the gVersion of stack newGold into installStack close stack newGold wait for messages set the lockMessages to false unlock screen wait for messages answer installStack origStack exit to top -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Save stack as...
Try: -- assumes 'streetStack' is the full filename to the stack lock messages open inv stack streetStack put the gVersion of stack streetStack into origStack close stack streetStack -- make sure destroyStack/destroywindow are true delete file streetStack save stack newGold as streetStack Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Didn't quite do it but it gave me ideas to try. My next programming day is Wednesday, so I'll be quiet for a few days :-) I did solve a biggie today :-) One of my beta testers for Phase I reported that nothing worked. Talk about a bummer. And on my birthday of all days. He was testing on OSX and my first thought was, oh man, you mean it doesn't work on OSX?? But he tried the Classic version and got the same result (bigger bummer, you mean it only works on MY computer) But it turned out to be a very small bug. An option he chose that put 0 into a variable that should have been a very large number. He figured it out on his own, to uncheck that option, and now he's happily testing away :-) Interesting that my best luck with beta testers always come from my Macintosh Users Group. So far I've gotten not one word of feedback from the beta testers who surfed into my website and applied. I'm sitting on the Windows version until I know all is well with the Mac version. Decided it's better to get one of them out the door, and THEN take time for the other one. Current project (streetStack etc.) is a plug in for Phase I. An addition. Rather than trusting people to install the newer stacks (they may have a combination, where this stack is newer but that one is older), I'm creating an installer button that deletes the oldest stacks and replaces with the newest ones. Well I'm off to celebrate my birthday :-) Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Save stack as...
Not quite there, but figured something out (birthday postponed an hour or so more... the fella is still at work and they won't let go of him). As both stacks have the same name, they are the same stack with a few minor changes, so they are versioned differently... I tried setting the name of one of the stacks to something else, before retrieving the script, and that seems to have prevented the purge dialog. The purge dialog was causing the second stack to open, visibly, regardless of lock screen, invisible, etc. So I think we're on our way to a solution... -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Save stack as...
Happy Birthday, Shari! Have a great one... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Save stack as... Try: -- assumes 'streetStack' is the full filename to the stack lock messages open inv stack streetStack put the gVersion of stack streetStack into origStack close stack streetStack -- make sure destroyStack/destroywindow are true delete file streetStack save stack newGold as streetStack Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Didn't quite do it but it gave me ideas to try. My next programming day is Wednesday, so I'll be quiet for a few days :-) I did solve a biggie today :-) One of my beta testers for Phase I reported that nothing worked. Talk about a bummer. And on my birthday of all days. He was testing on OSX and my first thought was, oh man, you mean it doesn't work on OSX?? But he tried the Classic version and got the same result (bigger bummer, you mean it only works on MY computer) But it turned out to be a very small bug. An option he chose that put 0 into a variable that should have been a very large number. He figured it out on his own, to uncheck that option, and now he's happily testing away :-) Interesting that my best luck with beta testers always come from my Macintosh Users Group. So far I've gotten not one word of feedback from the beta testers who surfed into my website and applied. I'm sitting on the Windows version until I know all is well with the Mac version. Decided it's better to get one of them out the door, and THEN take time for the other one. Current project (streetStack etc.) is a plug in for Phase I. An addition. Rather than trusting people to install the newer stacks (they may have a combination, where this stack is newer but that one is older), I'm creating an installer button that deletes the oldest stacks and replaces with the newest ones. Well I'm off to celebrate my birthday :-) Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Save stack as...
The goal: To replace a stack that exists, with a newer version of the same stack. The full filepaths to the stacks are in the variables, and the stacks are in different directories. delete file origStack save stack newerStack as origStack delete file newerStack This prompts the a stack exists, do you want to purge or save dialog. Even though the stacks were all originally closed. How do I bypass the dialog? I don't want to open the stacks. I simply want to replace file origStack with file newerStack, deleting the unneeded copies. And do this behind the scenes. Anybody? -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Save stack as...
Shari, You need to make sure the destroyStack and destroyWindow of the stack is set to true. This way it should purge itself as soon as it's closed. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 6:57 PM Subject: Save stack as... The goal: To replace a stack that exists, with a newer version of the same stack. The full filepaths to the stacks are in the variables, and the stacks are in different directories. delete file origStack save stack newerStack as origStack delete file newerStack This prompts the a stack exists, do you want to purge or save dialog. Even though the stacks were all originally closed. How do I bypass the dialog? I don't want to open the stacks. I simply want to replace file origStack with file newerStack, deleting the unneeded copies. And do this behind the scenes. Anybody? -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Save stack as...
What happens if you: set the destroyStack of stack origStack to true close stack origStack wait for messages -- to assure that the mem-resident copy was destroyed delete file origStack save stack newerStack as origStack delete file newerStack ?? Phil - Original Message - From: Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:57 PM Subject: Save stack as... The goal: To replace a stack that exists, with a newer version of the same stack. The full filepaths to the stacks are in the variables, and the stacks are in different directories. delete file origStack save stack newerStack as origStack delete file newerStack This prompts the a stack exists, do you want to purge or save dialog. Even though the stacks were all originally closed. How do I bypass the dialog? I don't want to open the stacks. I simply want to replace file origStack with file newerStack, deleting the unneeded copies. And do this behind the scenes. Anybody? -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Save stack as...
Shari, You need to make sure the destroyStack and destroyWindow of the stack is set to true. This way it should purge itself as soon as it's closed. Ken Ray They are. Both boxes in the stack object dialog are checked. -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Confirming a Save command
I've tested this procedure out, and have found that on the Macintosh platform, if the stack being saved is locked, the save command produces a copy of the stack with the same name and followed by a tilde. One also gets a message in the result variable which says Can't open stack file. If you save a second time, the message in result is Can't open stack backup file. If it's the wording that bothers you, you can go into the Metacard Menu Bar stacks and change the wording. I did that with the Save dialog stack, to use File instead of Stack. I have not used it in a standalone yet, but it works fine in development mode. Then just make sure to embed/import that stack into your project. Also, my current project has a save file. This file is critical to the program. It reads the file on launch, pulls out a bunch of information such as user preferences, high scores, etc. and puts them into the program, since a standalone cannot remember. The program saves to this file often, behind the scenes. If the file gets mangled, the program will follow. So I have a set of data on card 2 of the save stack, a set of default information. When it launches, it checks the status of the saved data on card 1. Making sure numbers are numbers, if there are supposed to be 5 items, there are. If a value is supposed to be A or B, it is one of them. And if this check fails, the stack will pull the default data from card 2, which doesn't change, put it into card 1, and launch in default mode. The user will have to reset preferences and create new high scores, but at least they won't have to reinstall the program, if the data gets mangled. Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Save As protocol
on 1/20/02 7:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My current copy is always named someProgramName.mc, while the copies are someProgramName-2.mc, someProgramName-3.mc etc. Those number don't mean anything at all, except to show that they are copies of the original, in case I ball up the original. But the original, I want to keep working in, and just save copies as I go, for safekeeping. Having worked in a professional editorial environment for 30 years, where numerous galleys (previous versions) of any given document must be maintained for safety sake and revision control, I want to affirm the above... PLEASE don't change it... the current Mac way of implementing Save As means that you end up in a new document and the old document as it was disappears. This has bitten our editors more than once, where the current document gets corrupted and there is no file on disc with the latest revisions. To overcome this we have a policy that before you start work on a new document you should make a copy of it... name it with a new revision number and continue working in the original...this is a big nuisance. And a lot of grief would be saved if Quark Express did it the Metacard/Rev way. Om shanti, Hinduism Today Sivakatirswami Editor's Assistant/Production Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.HinduismToday.com, www.HimalayanAcademy.com, www.Gurudeva.org, www.hindu.org Read The Master Course Lesson of the Day at http://www.gurudeva.org/lesson.shtml ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: save
Phil Davis : (To test it, you could add a beep or 'put CLOSING ' statement in the handler and see if anything new happens upon close.) Although it's a clever suggestion, I find it quite funny (and refreshing) that ppl use statements as simple as beep to check if anything happens... Jus like in good old early days of Hypercard... JB P.S. : I do that myself quite often, and it's one of the best debugging tool I know... ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
save
New data placed in my MC standalone is not saved despite placing on closestack save this stack end closestack placed in the stack script Any ideas? mike ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: save
Have you verified that the script is in fact being executed? Maybe there's another 'closeStack' handler somewhere along the message path? (To test it, you could add a beep or 'put CLOSING ' statement in the handler and see if anything new happens upon close.) Another possibility: have you verified that 'this stack' is the stack you think it is? To test, you could add put the name of this stack in the handler. Hope this helps. Phil - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:36 PM Subject: save New data placed in my MC standalone is not saved despite placing on closestack save this stack end closestack placed in the stack script Any ideas? mike ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
