[meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest
Mark, I was not complaining about your contest, merely trying to clarify which entry you thought was best. Since it was your contest of course you can use any criteria and change that criteria any way you want. I'm sorry to hear that someone is abusing your guestbook. As I have not yet been to your web site, I have not seen the comments you are referring to. Rick __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thuathe question(s)
In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:45:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I read that the main mass has been found and was enroute to someone. Any idea on its size? Hello Joel and list Mike and I are killing time waiting for our 11 1/2 hour flight to London to board. The largest single Thuathe stone is 2.3 kg. It is a beautiful 99% crusted wonder. Although we tried to buy it we were told it was not for sale. There are no other single pieces over 1 kg, however I have 2 pieces that fit together that weigh 1.5kg. They are both crusted fragments that were part of a much larger stone. David Ambrose in his listing of Thuathe pieces has a piece listed at an estimated 3.5 kg. It was broken into a number of pieces by the village chief looking for diamonds inside. At this point I don't know if my two pieces are from that stone or not. I will have to contact Dr Ambrose and see if he has any fragment weights connected with his 3.5 kg estimate. Mike and I plan to upload Thuathe pages to our websites around noon on Monday after we return. We have a couple hundred small stones and a handfull or two of stones over 100 grams, but nothing over 200 grams that will be available for sale. Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Closing in on Near Earth Objects (Comet C/1976 D1 Bradfield)
http://space.com/searchforlife/seti_neo_030227.html Closing in on Near Earth Objects By Peter Jenniskens Principal Investigator, SETI Institute 27 February 2003 While many astrobiologists follow the water, some are following the dirt. SETI Institute astronomer Peter Jenniskens is hot on the trail of an elusive comet whose last visit was in 1976, and whose lingering debris may help scientists warn us about the imminent return of a mysterious class of Near Earth Objects (NEOs). We believe that prediction models tested on the Leonid showers can also be used to predict when these dust trails are steered in the Earth's path by the gravitational influence of planets, and we are about to travel to South Africa to observe a new meteor shower thus predicted. When Comet C/1976 D1 Bradfield passed uncomfortably close to Earth's orbit on its sweep through the inner solar system, it was a faint +8 magnitude binocular object in the Southern hemisphere. Its passing was poorly communicated by observers who lacked today's connectivity. The best determination astronomers can make of the comet orbit places a return visit about 1,000 years into the future. Before we all heave a sigh of relief, thousands of such comets remain undetected. A similarly sized comet in such a fast moving orbit in another solar system may long ago have wiped out a civilization before it could be detected in our SETI searches. The key to finding the approaching comets is to recognize the new meteor shower when Earth hits its dust trail. In a paper soon to be published in the journal Icarus, Finnish colleague Esko Lyytinen and I predict a number of such showers, first on the list is the trail of C/1976 D1. Joining members of the Astronomical Society of South Africa - Meteor section just outside of Cape Town in South Africa, we hope to witness the meteor outburst, which peaks at 21:54 GMT (give or take 20 minutes) on March 1 and will last for approximately half an hour (14 minutes, full-width at half-maximum). The shower's radiant will be in the southern constellation Tucana, the Toucan, and will become known as the Beta Tucanids. The dust trails stretch far in front of and behind the comet, but that only when the planets cooperate can we observe a meteor shower. Jupiter and the other large outer planets in our solar system tug upon the path of comet dust particles. The tugging perturbs the orbits of the dust trails such that they are moved into Earth's path about once or twice every sixty years, through the combined effects of Jupiter and Saturn planets with 12 and 30-year rotation periods. A successful observation will help read other such showers for useful information regarding their parent comet. These encounters offer a chance to study the comet's debris and infer properties such as comet size, surface composition, and orbit. Repeated observations can in principal reveal whether a long period comet is approaching us, or returning back to the dark frontier of the solar system far beyond the outer planets. The viewing location is not ideal-unfortunately, the best seats in the house are found in hard to get to locations in Antarctica. Are we disappointed that we may never see this elusive comet again? Not at all. What's left behind after the comet has departed can provide as important information and we're learning to read the playbill. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA Finds Remnants Of Ancient Star In Earth's Upper Atmosphere
Donald Savage Headquarters, Washington Feb. 27, 2003 (Phone: 202/358-1547) Catherine E. Watson Johnson Space Center, Houston (Phone: 281/483-5111) RELEASE: 03-084 NASA FINDS REMNANTS OF ANCIENT STARS IN EARTH'S UPPER ATMOSPHERE NASA researchers believe they have found bits of ancient stars in small particles gathered in the Earth's upper atmosphere. The researchers revealed their findings in a paper released today. For more than two decades, NASA has collected interplanetary dust particles (IDPs) in the Earth's stratosphere using a modified U-2 aircraft, the ER-2. These tiny particles include the only samples of comets that can be studied in the laboratory. The stardust grains we discovered are typical of the kinds of dust that were available at the beginning of our solar system, these were the building blocks of the sun and planets, said Dr. Lindsay Keller, an author of the paper and a researcher in the Office of Astromaterials Research and Exploration Science at NASA's Johnson Space Center, Houston. Comet samples are the logical place to look for preserved stardust. They formed in a region of the solar system where they escaped the extensive processing that affected other solar system materials, he said. Before the sun formed, our solar system was a swirling cloud of dust and gas, the remnants of dead stars from other parts of the galaxy. Some of this dust survived the formation of the solar system unchanged to end up in comets. These comets contain the ingredients of the early solar system, the ingredients for which came from the remnants of early stars in the universe. The fact that these IDPs are rich in stardust and molecular cloud material suggests that they have remained essentially unchanged from the time the solar system formed, 4.5 billion years ago, said Dr. Scott Messenger, lead author of the paper and an astrophysicist at Washington University in St. Louis. The discovery was made possible by using a new kind of ion microprobe at Washington University, which measures isotopic ratios on scales much smaller than previously possible. This is essential for identifying stardust grains, because, they have isotopic ratios very different from anything in the solar system, Messenger said. Most collected IDPs range in size from 5 to 50 millionths of a meter, and often contain crystalline grains clumped together in sizes of 100 to 500 billionths of a meter. The paper is on the Internet at: http://www.sciencemag.org/sciencexpress/recent.shtml For more information about NASA on the Internet, visit: www.nasa.gov -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest and Website
The Decision of the Judge is Final... LOL.. The rap was cute..it was your contest and your choice. I was cutting up with you Mark. If I offended, I am sorry. They were all winners that I saw. Rosie - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Space Rocks [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest and Website Hello Rick and List, I did award this contest on the factor of much effort by the winner. I was a fast food manager for like 7 years. That was 7 long years of trying to teach teenagers to mop a floor multiple times and how to wipe off tables. I have seen an overall lack of effort here in America, so this one time I did award just for effort rather then say writing ability or scientific rambling. It is strange when you go outside of this country and see the effort some people do to accomplish a little task that we take for granted, like getting water or washing clothes. The ideal of this contest and the past was to give those a chance that don't have much to add to our everyday chatter a chance to be involved in the list and therefore create more of a community. It is not to try to anger people and if that is the case I will stop running them. In the future I will limit all entries to one per a person. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask. I would like to thank those that have sent me e-mails and those that posted positive messages to the website. There is one person who has continued to abuse the guestbook so it looks like that will be removed shortly, I do consider that action as liable and would consider sueing if I thought the person had anything. To that person, which most of you can probley guess who it is, you do understand that the website records your web address everytime you click on the site don't you? There is always a bad apple in every bunch and you have no affect on me or mine so I will leave it be. You have a choice in life to be a positive person or a negative. Lets hope that one day you choose to be a positive. I have also added several more newspaper articles in a way that should make it easy to find a certain article you are looking for. Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteor-Like Object Seen In India
http://66.234.3.46/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/theuae/2003/February/theuae_February370.xmlsection=theuae Meteor-like object seen in Sharjah By Tarek Fleihan, Meraj Rizvi, Zaigham Ali and Hani Bathish Khaleej Times Online (India) 27 February 2003 SHARJAH - In what could be described as a rare celestial spectacle, a meteor-like fiery object was seen shooting across the skies in Sharjah and was incidentally captured on tape for over four minutes by Talal Hajjar, a student of the American University of Sharjah (AUS), at around 6:30pm yesterday. 'I was driving by the men's dormitory when I pulled over after noticing this huge ball of fire streaking across the sky along a sharp axis towards the East at great speed and my first impression was that may be it was a common occurrence,' said Mr Talal, recounting his first reaction. 'But something told me that it was extraordinary, and I ran back to the car and pulled out my camera, which I was carrying because of the Mass Communication Media filming project and the constant pressure from my teacher Professor Beagalow,' said Mr Talal excitedly. The meteorological offices in Dubai and Sharjah said that the available satellite pictures suggest no unusual activity in the skies. 'This sort of thing is too small to register on a satellite picture, more so because at one particular time, we cover a limited area,' said one weatherman. According to a geological expert in the UAE, the falling object, if it did fall to the ground, would have created enough vibrations to be picked up by a seismograph, the instrument used to detect earthquakes. He said that the falling object either did not reach the ground and just burnt up in the sky, or if it did reach the ground it fell in the sea. From the fiery orange tail and the speed of its descent, estimated by an amateur astronomer to be over Mach 20, among the explanations produced is that it is either space debris or a large meteorite. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] oriented campos
Hi List, With all the high quality,remaglyted New Campos that have been on the market, has there been any showing signs of orientation. If so are there any pics availabletoview of any of these. Any info anyone has would be highly apprieciated. Thanks Bob C.
[meteorite-list] Largest Stoney Find
fcressy wrote: does anyone know what the largest stoney find is? That might be Tsarev (L5): 28 masses, totalling 1131.7 kg, were found in fields, the largest mass weighed 284 kg. or probably Ghubara (L5) because a 300 kg mass was recently found. I remember a photo showing Serguei putting a triumphant foot on a huge Ghu- bara mass but I don't know if that was the 300 kg mass. Hello, Serguei, are you out there? Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ice Diary 2: Great Scott, A Ghost (Life In The Antarctic)
For JPL internal use only. http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=384mode=threadorder=0thold=0 Ice Diary 2: Great Scott, A Ghost Astrobiology Magazine February 27, 2003 Summary: The Ice Diary series explores the adventures of a dedicated group of meteor hunters. The National Science Foundation, NASA and the Smithsonian collect and curate extraterrestrial samples scoured from the South Pole. In this chronicle, our explorers consider ghosts of pioneer trekkers like Robert Scott. Ice Diary 2 Great Scott, A Ghost 29 November, 2002 Hello, my name is Danny Glavin, and I feel extremely lucky to be a part of the ANSMET team. As part of my thesis research, I studied how micrometeorites collected from the Antarctic ice could have delivered extraterrestrial organic material to the early Earth, potentially seeding the planet with the building blocks of life. One meteorite found in Antarctica by ANSMET that has received an enormous amount of publicity is the Martian meteorite ALH84001. This rock was blasted off of the surface of Mars millions of years ago by a large impact, sent flying into space, and eventually landed in the Allan Hills region of Antarctica about 13,000 years ago. In 1996, a team of scientists from the NASA Johnson Space Center and Stanford University claimed to have found evidence for ancient Martian life in this meteorite. The debate over whether this meteorite actually contains evidence for life on Mars continues today. My personal opinion is that a Martian sample return mission that would give us several pristine uncontaminated samples will be necessary to resolve this life on Mars debate. Over the last week in McMurdo I have been trying to find the words to describe Antarctica -- other than simply cold and white. Standing on the ice sheet at our shakedown camp about 12 miles outside of McMurdo, I had this overwhelming feeling of insignificance, with miles and miles of ice in every direction. Although it was a very bright and clear day, distances and dimensions were very difficult to judge. John Schutt, the reconnaissance team leader, asked me how tall I thought the Trans-Antarctic Mountains were in the distance. I guessed 5,000 feet, but they were actually 14,000 feet! One of the most important things to be concerned about in Antarctica is drinking LOTS of water. Keeping your body hydrated is the first defense against becoming sick. Because it is so dry here, your body loses much more water than normal. Although I was told to drink between five to seven liters of water per day, I didn't drink enough when I first got to McMurdo. A couple of days ago, I started to get a sore throat, cough, and stuffed-up nose. After visiting the local hospital, I was told that I had picked up the McMurdo Crud. The flight surgeon at the hospital prescribed me some medication, so I am feeling much better today. I really appreciate the extra help from the other team members so that I could get some much-needed rest. 30 November, 2002 My body is sore. We have spent the last couple of days loading gear and food for our six-week expedition to the ice. So when the opportunity to go on a six-hour ride to a cold, windy point came up, my gut reaction was to decline. But then Cady Coleman, an astronaut on our reconnaissance team, started twisting my arm. We left at 6:30 p.m. in a couple of large transports called Deltas. They are designed to travel over the sea ice, but they don't go faster than 25 MPH, and they don't have any suspension or heat. We got to Cape Evans in about 1 1/2 hours. Cape Evans is where Capt. Robert F. Scott launched his final run at the pole in 1913. The hut he built there has been perfectly frozen in time, and we were allowed to walk around inside. The table was still set, beds made, and a stack of seal blubber in the stables off to the side was still smelly. All the shelves were stocked with cans of cocoa and oatmeal. I couldn't help but feel there were ghosts present in the building. Scott never made it back to Cape Evans, but there is a memorial commemorating his sacrifice and others in the quest to reach the pole. Right outside the door was a Weddell Seal and her pup. They didn't seem to mind all the visitors and alternated playing and nursing while everyone snapped pictures. I was overwhelmed by their cuteness, and only took about 30 to 40 pictures. Fairly close to Cape Evans, a glacier coming off of Mt. Erebus is in contact with the sea ice. It forms a sheer wall of blue ice that stands over 500 feet tall. It was awesome in the true sense of the word. Despite this grandeur, the wind was howling and we were able to put our cold weather gear to the test. We had just left Cape Evans and Cady was well into a story about her launch on the Space Shuttle, when I saw a small black figure moving quickly across the ice. I yelled, Penguin! - cutting Cady off in mid-sentence. We piled out the back, and a
[meteorite-list] Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin
Recent Fireball Reports - still seeking reports of a sonic boom... - Forward Message meteorobs-digest Thursday, February 27 2003 Volume 04 : Number 1100 (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin Re: (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin Re: (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin (meteorobs) March NEBULA now on-line... -- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:55:42 +0800 From: Huan Meng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin Yesterday, many amateur astronomers Tianjin (a city to the southeast of Beijing) reported that they saw a big fireball at 07h15m (LT, equivalent 23h15m UT). The appearence of fireball was not seen, but ended at about 20 degrees above the east horizon, and slightly to the north. The fireball was at least -10mag... It is said it brightened the whole sky and the train lasted at least 15 minutes. No electrophonic or other sounds was heard. Today, I just got known some people in Beijing also watched this phenomenon. The time was just 1 minutes earlier, i.e. 07h14m LT. Observers in Beijing reported the fireball appear at about 60 degrees above the east horizon, from northwest to southeast, rushed with medium speed. Someone said the fireball was even brighter than the sun! My mother was on the way to her company at that time. While driving toward the west at 07h14m, she noticed the sky was suddenly brightened. She's puzzled, but did see the bolide. I'm now wondering if we can find any meteorite of this fireball somewhere? Any suggestion? or how to calculate the position of it/them? PS, the distance between Beijing and Tianjin was precisely 120km. Best wishes and Clear skies! Huan -- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 02:33:37 -0700 From: Jim Gamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin Huan, Can you provide a date for this event. I know the person who releases DOD (Department of Defense) satellite data to the public and he may be able to verify this event. Have you heard of any sightings from people East of Tianjin. Thanks. Regards, Jim Gamble El Paso, Tx Station-Sandia Meteor Detection Network All Sky Camera System 31.47.7.822N 106.18.18.770W [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/desert_lights -- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:35:24 +0800 From: Huan Meng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin Jim, Oh, sorry, it seemed I forgot the most important information. ;-P The date for this event was February 25/26. China uses local time in +8 time zone, so, the precise time in UT should be February 25th, 23h14m to 15m. Tianjin is a port in north China, on the west coast of Pacific. The east to that city was the sea, i'm afraid no observer there... Both Beijing and Tianjin has population over 10 million, and 07h15m was just in the rush hours. So, perhaps we can find more witnesses (?). Thanks you, Kind regards, Huan - - Original Message - From: Jim Gamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin Huan, Can you provide a date for this event. I know the person who releases DOD (Department of Defense) satellite data to the public and he may be able to verify this event. Have you heard of any sightings from people East of Tianjin. Thanks. Regards, Jim Gamble El Paso, Tx Station-Sandia Meteor Detection Network All Sky Camera System 31.47.7.822N 106.18.18.770W [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/desert_lights -- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:30:51 -0500 From: George Gliba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) March NEBULA now on-line... The March 2003 issue of NEBULA, the monthly newsletter of the NASA/Goddard Astronomy Club, is now on-line at: http://garc9.gsfc.nasa.gov/~astro/gac.html GWG The archive and Web site for our list is at http://www.meteorobs.org To stop getting all email from the 'meteorobs' lists, use our Webform: http://www.meteorobs.org/subscribe.html -- End of meteorobs-digest V4 #1100 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] auctions ending soon
Hey everybody! Just wanted to let you guys know that I have a couple of nice auctions ending in a couple of hours! Here is the link! http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=meteoriteninclude=0since=-1sort=3rows=25 take a look at them and give it your best shot J Greets to everybody on the list! Moritz Karl Gutzkowstr. 77 60594 Frankfurt Germany www.m3t3orites.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #0818
[meteorite-list] Website / list
Hi Mark, Rick all, Unfortunately, I saw the first two or three abusive comments on your site which were clearly left by the party who has recently SOMEHOW gotten back on the list. (I am hoping his being back on the list was through some mechanical end run, such as changing his email address and merely signing up without notice of Art - and that, therefore, this will come to Art's attention and we can, gratefully, be once again free of his obnoxious attacks and pointless rabble rousing). This attack behavior was, in the past, defended as needed criticism and a challenge of the status quo. However, as Peter McArther said, A satirist is a man who discovers unpleasant things about himself and then says them about other people. - 'Nuff said. It is a shame this was done to your site, especially at the outset of your enterprise. It is a disgrace you had to remove the feedback section of your site. It was one of the more delightful and fresh elements your site provided. Furthermore, he was drawn to your site by virtue of your announcement of same on this list - since this person accessed your site by virtue of his membership on this list, any and all things he wrote on your site are, in my opinion, subject to the same rules of conduct required for membership on this list. While he had only left 2 or 3 obnoxious commentaries when I was there, I understand this was not enough for him, and he continued to befoul your site until he reached 10 messages, virtually flooding your feedback forum with his obscene and totally unprovoked attacks. We didn't need the conflict in the past and we don't need it now. I request that Art take this matter into consideration. I will be emailing him, personally, regarding this person's conduct and I encourage any other concerned members to contact him as well. Best wishes, Michael on 2/26/03 11:07 PM, MARK BOSTICK at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Rick and List, I did award this contest on the factor of much effort by the winner. I was a fast food manager for like 7 years. That was 7 long years of trying to teach teenagers to mop a floor multiple times and how to wipe off tables. I have seen an overall lack of effort here in America, so this one time I did award just for effort rather then say writing ability or scientific rambling. It is strange when you go outside of this country and see the effort some people do to accomplish a little task that we take for granted, like getting water or washing clothes. The ideal of this contest and the past was to give those a chance that don't have much to add to our everyday chatter a chance to be involved in the list and therefore create more of a community. It is not to try to anger people and if that is the case I will stop running them. In the future I will limit all entries to one per a person. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask. I would like to thank those that have sent me e-mails and those that posted positive messages to the website. There is one person who has continued to abuse the guestbook so it looks like that will be removed shortly, I do consider that action as liable and would consider sueing if I thought the person had anything. To that person, which most of you can probley guess who it is, you do understand that the website records your web address everytime you click on the site don't you? There is always a bad apple in every bunch and you have no affect on me or mine so I will leave it be. You have a choice in life to be a positive person or a negative. Lets hope that one day you choose to be a positive. I have also added several more newspaper articles in a way that should make it easy to find a certain article you are looking for. Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. ...Thomas Jefferson -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Photos
MARS EXPLORATION ROVER PHOTOS National Aeronautics and Space Administration John F. Kennedy Space Center Kennedy Space Center, Florida 32899 Set to launch in 2003, the Mars Exploration Rover (MER) Mission will consist of two identical rovers designed to cover roughly 110 yards each Martian day. Each rover will carry five scientific instruments that will allow it to search for evidence of liquid water that may have been present in the planet's past. The rovers will be identical to each other, but will land at different regions of Mars. The first rover has a launch window opening May 30, and the second rover, a window opening June 25, 2003. No copyright protection is asserted for this photography. If a recognizable person appears in this photograph, use for commercial purposes may infringe a right of privacy or publicity. It may not be used to state or imply the endorsement by NASA employees of a commercial product, process or service, or used in any other manner that might mislead. Accordingly, it is requested that if this photograph is used in advertising and other commercial promotion, layout and copy be submitted to NASA prior to release. --- http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/photodetail.cfm?MediaID=18220 FOR RELEASE: 01/27/2003 PHOTO NO: KSC-03pd-0197 PHOTO CREDIT: NASA or National Aeronautics and Space Administration KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FLA. - A flatbed truck transports elements of the Mars Exploration Rovers Mission to the Payload Hazardous Servicing Facility at KSC. The cruise stage, aeroshell and lander for MER-2 are inside the shipping containers. --- http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/photodetail.cfm?MediaID=18221 FOR RELEASE: 01/27/2003 PHOTO NO: KSC-03pd-0198 PHOTO CREDIT: NASA or National Aeronautics and Space Administration KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FLA. -- A flatbed truck carrying elements of the Mars Exploration Rovers Mission nears the Payload Hazardous Servicing Facility at KSC. The cruise stage, aeroshell and lander for MER-2 are inside the shipping containers. --- http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/photodetail.cfm?MediaID=18222 FOR RELEASE: 01/28/2003 PHOTO NO: KSC-03pd-0199 PHOTO CREDIT: NASA or National Aeronautics and Space Administration KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FLA. -- The Payload Hazardous Servicing Facility at KSC is open to receive the Mars Exploration Rovers Mission elements. --- http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/photodetail.cfm?MediaID=18223 FOR RELEASE: 01/28/2003 PHOTO NO: KSC-03pd-0200 PHOTO CREDIT: NASA or National Aeronautics and Space Administration KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FLA. - Workers outside the Payload Hazardous Servicing Facility at KSC unload equipment associated with the Mars Exploration Rovers Mission. --- http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/photodetail.cfm?MediaID=18224 FOR RELEASE: 01/28/2003 PHOTO NO: KSC-03pd-0201 PHOTO CREDIT: NASA or National Aeronautics and Space Administration KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FLA. - Workers roll equipment into the Payload Hazardous Servicing Facility at KSC associated with the Mars Exploration Rovers Mission. --- http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/photodetail.cfm?MediaID=18225 FOR RELEASE: 01/28/2003 PHOTO NO: KSC-03pd-0202 PHOTO CREDIT: NASA or National Aeronautics and Space Administration KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FLA. - Containers inside the Payload Hazardous Servicing Facility at KSC contain elements associated with the Mars Exploration Rovers Mission. The cruise stage, aeroshell and lander for MER-2 have been delivered for processing. --- http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/photodetail.cfm?MediaID=18232 FOR RELEASE: 01/28/2003 PHOTO NO: KSC-03pd-0209 PHOTO CREDIT: NASA or National Aeronautics and Space Administration KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FLA. - In the Payload Hazardous Servicing Facility, workers lift the cover from the Mars Exploration Rover-2. --- http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/photodetail.cfm?MediaID=18233 FOR RELEASE: 01/28/2003 PHOTO NO: KSC-03pd-0210 PHOTO CREDIT: NASA or National Aeronautics and Space Administration KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FLA. -- In the Payload Hazardous Servicing Facility, workers get ready to remove the plastic covering from the Mars Exploration Rover-2. --- http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/photodetail.cfm?MediaID=18234 FOR RELEASE: 01/28/2003 PHOTO NO: KSC-03pd-0211 PHOTO CREDIT: NASA or National
[meteorite-list] Fw: auctions ending in 2-3 hours...
- Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: Michael Cottingham Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:56 PM Subject: auctions ending in 2-3 hours... Hello, Go to: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ 65 auctions ending tonight, Plus about 80 starting tonight on 1 minute delay...many of those have BUY IT NOW, so you might want to take a peak. Thanks Best Wishes Michael Cottingham
[meteorite-list] Re: Photo of me, Fred H. and Fred O.
Hi Mark, how the heck are ya doing? I just wanted to let you know that you got the names crossed on your picture of Fred Olsen and myself at the Tucson Show, 2003. You listed him as me and me as him, once again (remember the Denver Show photos in Voyage! magazine?) Now, this does not greatly bother me as I don't mind being thought of as a great big Teddy bear (as Olsen resembles) that all the women must find irresistible. But poor Fred O. may commit hari kari because meteorite collectors the world over think of him as the thin, ugly guy in the Tucson photo. Please, for Fred Olsen, adjust the sequence of our names on your Tucson photo of us. High Regards, Fred Hall
[meteorite-list] All Stars
Hi everybody. This is Rand. No, I'm not a scientist. I don't work for NASA. I'm not a mathematician. I don't have a collection of meteorites. I'm not wealthy by any means. I'm just a regular, average guy trying to figure things out the best I can. So far I've spent 18.5 years as an enlisted man in the U.S. Army. How ironic! I despise war. I have a profound respect for life and the environment. I saw a military career as an excellent opportunity for me to provide for my family. I served in the war zone, but not as a combatant. I served in a combat support hospital in the Arabian Desert providing humane treatment for fellow soldiers and prisoners of war alike. Recently I was almost deployed again. Officials deemed it best that I stay home this time. I concur with their decision. My wife, Gina is severely disabled in advanced stages of multiple sclerosis. She needs me here. I'd like to share something with the list. One night my wife lay in her bed watching television. Observing the performers on screen she said, I wish I could be a star. I responded, You ARE a star! Right now as you fight this disease with all of your determination, You are a star! As you raised our children and worked to supplement our income, You were a star! As you aided your parents, their lives dwindling in their twilight, you were a star. As you continue your life, doing the very best you can do, you will continue on as a star! So are YOU ALL STARS! Each of you in your own way! Here in this list we have people from many walks of life, from countries around the world. Whatever your strengths may be, in each or your distinct assemblage of personality traits and talents, as you do your bestYou are ALL STARS! I'm honored to be among your associates. Rand Kluge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WILD Purple Meteroite Amethyst Looking Rock
Hi all, Here's another Ebay beauty! Best Regards, Mike Reynolds IMCA #8127 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2162286613category=3239 _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] nice crust and flow lines
Matteo, I have this guy on my blacklist and would never know he was here if you did not keep returning his mail. Blacklist him and ignor his emails and he will go away. Alan Quoting M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ROCK! ROCK! ROCK!where is the flow lines? Your Institutes what idea have on this ordinary rock? Matteo --- M Yousef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please have a look! http://www.alifyaa.com/meteorite/fl2/index.html _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Website / list
Hello Michael, Art and list, Thanks for your concern Michael and to the many other list members who e-mailed off list. While I was trying to be nice and didn't mention Joel Warren's name in my last e-mail I see no reason to hide it now as today he has continued his behavior. Joel seems to have some beef with me which is surprizing as we had never communicated until on the list the other day when he wanted to argue about the latest fall in which I did not want to do, as history has shown Joel believes a scientific debate is cussing and rude remarks. Which by the way a weathering grade is a measurement of how much water has affected the chondrules and does not have anything to do with crust. Also studies in DAG meteorites, the Gold Basin, and Roosevelt County have shown that weathering is not a consistant thing. Further, The Doon - Kitchener Meteorite was picked up minutes after it fell and this meteorite a common chondrite already showed signs of weathering. My stance was simple that we had no information on the fall to make any judgment, a scientific debate at that time would be simply foolish. Now we know that 1000's seen it fall, a University did most of the study, and multiple meteorite teams have collected meteorites from the site. To argue the fall would show ignorence. Today I received more posting on my site guest book from Joel and was forced to remove it. I do a lot of traveling and even if I did not I am not going to log onto the site every hour to check to see what attack that Joel posted that needed erased. So I thank those that took the time to write a messege and I apologize I had to remove them. Joel's e-mails to me today included vulgar laugage and included the note that I'm making out my own personal manifesto that I can keep posting in your guest book. Other list members have also e-mailed me about like e-mails from Joel and anyone that guessed the name of the attacker was right. Well I have removed the guest book and blocked his name so that is no longer a problem. Joel's past e-mails have gotten him kicked off of this list and off of the Meteorite Collectors Group list so it is not a surprize that he wishes to express himself in this manner. Joel's posting here in the past was part of the reason why respected members chose to leave and I am asking Art to re-inforce Joel's removal from the list as it does not appear to me that Joel has changed in any way. Like Michael, I am also asking fellow list members to e-mail Art and let their opinion on this subject that affects many of us be know. Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ice Diary
Expanding on Ron's posts last week and this most recent one is a website devoted to the entire 2002-2003 ANSMET expedition. It's written in diary format by several members with the bulk of entries by a man named Andy Caldwell, a Colorado high scool teacher. It started as a link to his class and in the end bacame a very interesting record of the trip with plenty of photos and side info on the various posts and land features. It takes a while to read, in fact I still have a few entries to go, but if you have a little time to kill you may want to read a few days. It starts here http://tea.rice.edu/tea_caldwellfrontpage.html#calendar Ron,s posts have been parts of the entire record. -- Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ice Diary 2: Great Scott, A Ghost (Life In The Antarctic) For JPL internal use only. http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articles id=384mode=threadorder=0thold=0 Ice Diary 2: Great Scott, A Ghost Astrobiology Magazine February 27, 2003 Summary: The Ice Diary series explores the adventures of a dedicated group of meteor hunters. The National Science Foundation, NASA and the Smithsonian collect and curate extraterrestrial samples scoured from the South Pole. In this chronicle, our explorers consider ghosts of pioneer trekkers like Robert Scott. Ice Diary 2 Great Scott, A Ghost 29 November, 2002 Hello, my name is Danny Glavin, and I feel extremely lucky to be a part of the ANSMET team. As part of my thesis research, I studied how micrometeorites collected from the Antarctic ice could have delivered extraterrestrial organic material to the early Earth, potentially seeding the planet with the building blocks of life. One meteorite found in Antarctica by ANSMET that has received an enormous amount of publicity is the Martian meteorite ALH84001. This rock was blasted off of the surface of Mars millions of years ago by a large impact, sent flying into space, and eventually landed in the Allan Hills region of Antarctica about 13,000 years ago. In 1996, a team of scientists from the NASA Johnson Space Center and Stanford University claimed to have found evidence for ancient Martian life in this meteorite. The debate over whether this meteorite actually contains evidence for life on Mars continues today. My personal opinion is that a Martian sample return mission that would give us several pristine uncontaminated samples will be necessary to resolve this life on Mars debate. Over the last week in McMurdo I have been trying to find the words to describe Antarctica -- other than simply cold and white. Standing on the ice sheet at our shakedown camp about 12 miles outside of McMurdo, I had this overwhelming feeling of insignificance, with miles and miles of ice in every direction. Although it was a very bright and clear day, distances and dimensions were very difficult to judge. John Schutt, the reconnaissance team leader, asked me how tall I thought the Trans-Antarctic Mountains were in the distance. I guessed 5,000 feet, but they were actually 14,000 feet! One of the most important things to be concerned about in Antarctica is drinking LOTS of water. Keeping your body hydrated is the first defense against becoming sick. Because it is so dry here, your body loses much more water than normal. Although I was told to drink between five to seven liters of water per day, I didn't drink enough when I first got to McMurdo. A couple of days ago, I started to get a sore throat, cough, and stuffed-up nose. After visiting the local hospital, I was told that I had picked up the McMurdo Crud. The flight surgeon at the hospital prescribed me some medication, so I am feeling much better today. I really appreciate the extra help from the other team members so that I could get some much-needed rest. 30 November, 2002 My body is sore. We have spent the last couple of days loading gear and food for our six-week expedition to the ice. So when the opportunity to go on a six-hour ride to a cold, windy point came up, my gut reaction was to decline. But then Cady Coleman, an astronaut on our reconnaissance team, started twisting my arm. We left at 6:30 p.m. in a couple of large transports called Deltas. They are designed to travel over the sea ice, but they don't go faster than 25 MPH, and they don't have any suspension or heat. We got to Cape Evans in about 1 1/2 hours. Cape Evans is where Capt. Robert F. Scott launched his final run at the pole in 1913. The hut he built there has been perfectly frozen in time, and we were allowed to walk around inside. The table was still set, beds made, and a stack of seal blubber in the stables off to the side was
[meteorite-list] Look alikes
Hi List This is very off topic, but funny. I was checking out Mark B's photos and have to tell you that I hope to be at the Denver show if only to meet everyone, especially Bill Mason. I am going to get a hat and take my picture wearing dark glasses and be Bill's double. Our beards are very similar as well as the general features of our faces and I think it would be fun to see how many people would get us confused. Bill, I hope you don't take offense, I'm just very surprised at how we look similar and got a good laff out of it. Best wishes Mark Ferguson __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] All Stars
Hi, Rand, that was very well said. That girl of yours she's really a star and I wish her all the strength of the universe to fight this terrible desease. I think I can relate a little bit to this as my cousin is struck with the same illness, and he and his family, wife and two loving children, they are shining stars too. May God bless you, Gina and Rand! -- Best_regards Best regards from DOWN-UNDER, Norbert Heike Kammel ROCKS ON FIRE IMCA #3420 www.rocksonfire.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody. This is Rand. No, I'm not a scientist. I don't work for NASA. I'm not a mathematician. I don't have a collection of meteorites. I'm not wealthy by any means. I'm just a regular, average guy trying to figure things out the best I can. So far I've spent 18.5 years as an enlisted man in the U.S. Army. How ironic! I despise war. I have a profound respect for life and the environment. I saw a military career as an excellent opportunity for me to provide for my family. I served in the war zone, but not as a combatant. I served in a combat support hospital in the Arabian Desert providing humane treatment for fellow soldiers and prisoners of war alike. Recently I was almost deployed again. Officials deemed it best that I stay home this time. I concur with their decision. My wife, Gina is severely disabled in advanced stages of multiple sclerosis. She needs me here. I'd like to share something with the list. One night my wife lay in her bed watching television. Observing the performers on screen she said, "I wish I could be a star." I responded, "You ARE a star!" Right now as you fight this disease with all of your determination, You are a star! As you raised our children and worked to supplement our income, You were a star! As you aided your parents, their lives dwindling in their twilight, you were a star. As you continue your life, doing the very best you can do, you will continue on as a star! So are YOU ALL STARS! Each of you in your own way! Here in this list we have people from many walks of life, from countries around the world. Whatever your strengths may be, in each or your distinct assemblage of personality traits and talents, as you do your bestYou are ALL STARS! I'm honored to be among your associates. Rand Kluge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] All Stars
Hi Rand I just want to say that its not wrong to think and act as you do, quite the reverse really and you don't have to defend your actions. Your moral convictions speak for themselves, don't they. But, I do have to admire your support of your wife. I have known a couple ms victims and they didn't always have the support of their spouse. All these spouses could see was the loss, not the gain from knowing and living with that person. They would look back with saddness at what they had..What a shame for them to be sad over a past that was filled with good times. Hers to you and your wife for living a good life. Mark - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:06 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] All Stars Hi everybody. This is Rand. No, I'm not a scientist. I don't work for NASA. I'm not a mathematician. I don't have a collection of meteorites. I'm not wealthy by any means. I'm just a regular, average guy trying to figure things out the best I can. So far I've spent 18.5 years as an enlisted man in the U.S. Army. How ironic! I despise war. I have a profound respect for life and the environment. I saw a military career as an excellent opportunity for me to provide for my family. I served in the war zone, but not as a combatant. I served in a combat support hospital in the Arabian Desert providing humane treatment for fellow soldiers and prisoners of war alike. Recently I was almost deployed again. Officials deemed it best that I stay home this time. I concur with their decision. My wife, Gina is severely disabled in advanced stages of multiple sclerosis. She needs me here. I'd like to share something with the list. One night my wife lay in her bed watching television. Observing the performers on screen she said, I wish I could be a star. I responded, You ARE a star! Right now as you fight this disease with all of your determination, You are a star! As you raised our children and worked to supplement our income, You were a star! As you aided your parents, their lives dwindling in their twilight, you were a star. As you continue your life, doing the very best you can do, you will continue on as a star! So are YOU ALL STARS! Each of you in your own way! Here in this list we have people from many walks of life, from countries around the world. Whatever your strengths may be, in each or your distinct assemblage of personality traits and talents, as you do your bestYou are ALL STARS! I'm honored to be among your associates. Rand Kluge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WILD Purple Meteroite Amethyst Looking Rock
HAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHA.O MY GOOODDD This is for a 2 lb mountain meteor rock, it looks like amethyst crystal inside it, i am not sure reallly what the rock is called. but i know it fell from the sky. It measures 5.5 wide x 4.5 tall. Buyer to pay s/h 5.50 s/h. No two of these are alike. It depends on how they break when they hit the earth. This person have a normaly amethist quartz but fall from the sky..if interested I have a similar piece fall from the sky in my collection. Regards Matteo --- Mike Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Here's another Ebay beauty! Best Regards, Mike Reynolds IMCA #8127 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2162286613category=3239 _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
