Re: [meteorite-list] Tatahouine - Pronunciation

2003-03-03 Thread Michel Franco
Hi list,

Thanks Robert,

I think one should say:

ta ta ween

ta as in cat,  twice.

ween as in between.

The tu pronunciation is a Spilberg idea, not a tunisian one. Not far from
Tataouine, one can visit the site where was shot the movie that made this
city more famous than the Diogenite.

Tataouine is the correct spelling from the name of this Tunisian city. I
should find a photo of the road marks with this spelling in my files. I will
put that on my site one day.

A easy trip but today all fragments are gone unless you look for smaller
than 0.01 g. The 3 impact crater are still there, pretty empty. An old 1931
map facilitates their discovery.

Best day

Michel
Caillou Noir
100 chemin des Campènes
74400 Chamonix France


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 Hi Jeff,

 My assumption based on rudimentary francais has been
 that it is pronounced something like:

 ta'-tuh-ween'

 with the main accent on the third syllable, and more
 emphasis on the first syllable than the second.  The first
 ta rhymes with the ca of cat.  Again, this is a guess.
 The Labennes (or Anne) could give you a more accurate
 pronunciation.

 Cheers,
 Rob

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[meteorite-list] AD - Oriented Sikhtoe-alin

2003-03-03 Thread Jim Strope



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[meteorite-list] morristown mesosiderite

2003-03-03 Thread STEVE ARNOLD
Good morning list. Can anyone give me a brief history of the Morristown mesosiderite?Not alot is said about it it seems anywhere.Alot of meteorite dealers do not sell any. So I figure,RARE! pLEASE LET ME KNOW.
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Re: [meteorite-list] morristown mesosiderite

2003-03-03 Thread Michael L Blood
Title: Re: [meteorite-list] morristown mesosiderite



Hi Steve,
 May I suggest you invest in THE CATALOGUE OF METEORITES by Grady?
This is THE definitive text on all falls and finds and nearly always has the
most information on each and every meteorite. I see you often post to the
list asking others to supply you with the information you could easily look
up for yourself if you owned this single text. 
 (I do NOT sell them and have no personal stake here)
 So, whatcha say?
 Michael



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Good morning list. Can anyone give me a brief history of the Morristown mesosiderite?Not alot is said about it it seems anywhere.Alot of meteorite dealers do not sell any. So I figure,RARE! pLEASE LET ME KNOW. 

 S, CHITOWN


Steve R. Arnold, Chicago, USA!! 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Expeditions

2003-03-03 Thread Rafael B. Torres
Thanks a lot Michael, its seems that searching with small grid areas work 
good for locating meteorites. I will definetely do that, what Im plannig is 
If I find one meteorite I will search for more in that area, I will bring my 
digital so I can take pics in situ of any find...also Im planning to use 
markers for a find, like taking red sticks and put them in a meteorite find 
in order to locate the find later on, of course taking a picture of it. But 
I have just one question: How do u use the meteorite cane?...

I have a big magnet from a floppy disk, small in size, but man its powerful. 
Do I use it to sweep the area with it? or just when a rock looks 
different?...I have that big magnet attached to a cane, plus smaller magnets 
for checking rocks. How does a meteorite cane works the best?

PS-Thanks a lot of to all of those  who answered.

   =0)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Expeditions

2003-03-03 Thread rochette
.. But
I have just one question: How do u use the meteorite cane?...

I have a big magnet from a floppy disk, small in size, but man its powerful.
Do I use it to sweep the area with it? or just when a rock looks
different?...I have that big magnet attached to a cane, plus smaller magnets
for checking rocks. How does a meteorite cane works the best?

Ola Rafael

This is more less a repost from about one year ago: use of strong magnet
cause irreversible damage to the magnetic memory of a meteorite and
therefore decreases its scientific interest. Besides if you collect only
rocks sticking to your cane you will get slags but leave on the ground
almost all rarities: rumurutites, angrites, eucrites,diogenite, howardite,
martian, lunars, even some LL and CV. If you try to increase magnet power
to compensate, you may collect terrestrial basalts. So what's the use of
it, unless you know you are in a L or H strewfield???


Pierre



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Re: [meteorite-list] Tatahouine - Pronunciation

2003-03-03 Thread John Gwilliam
Rob and List,
I believe Rob's pronunciation is very close to correct.  Bob Holmes and I 
spent a few hours with Alain Carion and Anne Black at the Tucson Show while 
filming a segment for our soon to be released video.  While Alain talked 
about the Tatahouine meteorite, Anne held two very large specimens in her 
hands for the camera.  Even with his beautiful thick French accent, it was 
easy to hear how Alain pronounced the name.  Since he has personally hunted 
the strew field several times, I'd venture that he is pronouncing it properly.

Best,

John Gwilliam

At 10:53 PM 3/2/03 -0800, Matson, Robert wrote:
Hi Jeff,

My assumption based on rudimentary francais has been
that it is pronounced something like:
ta'-tuh-ween'

with the main accent on the third syllable, and more
emphasis on the first syllable than the second.  The first
ta rhymes with the ca of cat.  Again, this is a guess.
The Labennes (or Anne) could give you a more accurate
pronunciation.
Cheers,
Rob
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[meteorite-list] Rock-Picking Farmer Finds $1 Million Meteorite In Missouri

2003-03-03 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.startribune.com/stories/1451/3730208.html

Rock-picking farmer finds $1 million meteorite
Associated Press
March 3, 2003

FAIRFAX, Mo. -- Farmer Gary Wennihan may have made a meteoric rise to 
wealth.

Wennihan, 60, was tossing aside rocks in his soybean field to prevent 
damage to his combine when he picked up a strange-looking rock in the 
fall of 2000.

It turned out to be a rare meteorite scientists say could be worth as 
much as $1 million.

Ben Rogers, a Northwest Missouri State University student who attends 
Wennihan's church, offered to take it to his geology professor.

After polishing away the layers of rust, Rogers and assistant geology 
professor Richard Felton found a shiny metallic surface.

``It was beautiful, almost like chrome, it was so shiny,'' Rogers said.

Felton's colleague, Renee Rohs, took the rock to a University of Kansas 
professor who taught her about meteors. Half of it was sent to the 
Institute of Meteoritics at the University of New Mexico for more 
analysis.

A leading meteorite expert at UCLA concluded that nothing similar had 
ever been found.

Rohs said other meteorites have brought $500 a gram. After small samples 
were donated to three universities, there still were 1,800 grams - or 4 
pounds - left of Wennihan's rock.

Wennihan is enjoying his treasure - whether it makes him a millionaire 
or not.

``I'm holding onto it until I get a good offer, and it may never come,'' 
he said last week. ``I'm certainly not holding my breath. And in the 
meantime, I'm just having fun with it.

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[meteorite-list] Missouri Field Rock Actually $1 Million Meteorite

2003-03-03 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.stjoenews-press.com/Main.asp?SectionID=81SubSectionID=272ArticleID=38172

Field rock actually $1 million meteorite
By LINDSEY V. COREY
St. Josesh News-Press
March 3, 2003

FAIRFAX, Mo. - Gary Wennihan won the lottery.

But it took a couple years to figure it out, and he hasn't cashed in yet.

The Fairfax farmer's retirement might come early because the heavy rock he
found turned out to be a one-of-a-kind meteorite.

They say the odds of just picking it up like I did, well, I'd be more
likely to be struck by lightning, said the 61-year-old. We've spent
millions to go to the moon, so to just walk up on something from outer space
is a rare experience. You just don't do that everyday.

The rock was just one of many Mr. Wennihan was tossing aside in a soybean
field in the fall of 2000.

I took it with me because it was different - heavier and rusty, he said.
You sure don't want something like that going through your combine.

And so the million-dollar meteorite banged around in the back of his pickup.

When he thought of it, Mr. Wennihan showed people the rock that he was
curious about, so curious he sawed it in half, revealing tiny crystals.

But no one took an interest. No one except fellow church member Ben Rogers,
who was enrolled in a geology class at Northwest Missouri State University
last year.

Mr. Rogers, 21, offered to take the rock to his professor for input.

We get a lot of things in here, most of them common, said Richard Felton,
assistant geology professor. But I knew right away that this was something
truly interesting.

So he and Mr. Rogers dug right in. It didn't take long for the two to polish
away the layers of rust and find a shiny metallic surface beneath.

It was beautiful, almost like chrome it was so shiny, the student said.

Just after midnight, they stopped their frenzied research and testing. Mr.
Felton didn't want to lose objectivity in his excitement.

Geologists are a conservative bunch, he said. I was still trying to
convince myself that something this rare couldn't be sitting in my office.

Besides, Mr. Felton had seen meteorites only behind museum glass.

I really needed someone who'd actually held and studied them, he said. So
I showed it to my colleagues the next morning and didn't say a word. I
didn't want to embarrass myself.

Dr. Renee Rohs' face lit up immediately.

It was just one of those things, the assistant geology professor said. If
you ever saw one, you never forget it. My first instinct was that it was a
stony-iron meteorite, the rarest kind of meteorites, and it was a pretty
strong instinct.

Dr. Rohs took the specimen to a University of Kansas professor who'd studied
and taught her about meteors and gained confirmation of its rarity.

From there, half of the rock was sent to the Institute of Meteoritics at the
University of New Mexico for further analysis. A leading meteorite expert at
the University of California at Los Angeles also repeatedly tested a sample,
comparing it to others, only to learn that nothing from the same asteroid
has been found on earth.

It's unique in the true sense of the word, Dr. Rohs said. There's nothing
else like it in the world, and I'm just amazed we had the opportunity to be
involved in the process. Its been a fun ride.

But the ride is not over for the meteorite's owner.

I'm holding onto it until I get a good offer, and it may never come, Mr.
Wennihan said. I'm certainly not holding my breath. And in the meantime,
I'm just having fun with it. I suppose I could buy my wife a chain of beauty
shops, but she's already got one and that'd be kind of like buying her a
sweeper for Christmas.

Mr. Wennihan said he's still not sure how much money it would take for him
to part with the rock that he's been showing to service clubs and school
children.

It's not like a load of corn or a bushel of beans, he said. There's no
established market. It's more like antiques. People want what they can't
have.

Dr. Rohs said other meteorites that only have a few matches have brought
$500 per gram. After small samples were donated to Northwest, UNM and UCLA,
about 1,800 grams or 4 pounds remain.

This is presumably worth more, she said. But it's hard to put a price on
it.

Despite Mr. Rogers wanting to remain anonymous originally, meteorite brokers
approached him on campus.

People actually showed up here looking for me, he said. It was kind of
scary. We had a lot of offers from people trMP**AdId=446 or cheap before we
knew what it was. Someone offered $10,000 for half of it, which actually
seemed like pretty good money at the time. I'm really glad we waited and got
help from the professors here. I give them all the credit really.

Knowing the truth is baffling. It brings so many possibilities to mind, not
only what do we do with it, but what can be learned from it.

Dr. Rohs said the meteorite, which she's used to illustrate lessons, has
more value than monetary.

As a geologist, it's another piece of the puzzle to understanding the 

Re: [meteorite-list] Rock-Picking Farmer Finds $1 Million Meteorite In

2003-03-03 Thread Ron Baalke
 
 WHAT?? What is its type? Sounds like an iron for 500/gram?
 Matt
 

I'm curious as to what type it is as well.  Both articles didn't say.
It looks to be either an iron or stony-iron. Because it is being
touted as a one-of-a-kind meteorites. I would guess it is in
the stony-iron class.

Ron Baalke

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[meteorite-list] A Meteor's Protective Bubbles? (Tagish Lake Meteorite)

2003-03-03 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=388mode=threadorder=0thold=0

A Meteor's Protective Bubbles?
Astrobiology Magazine
March 3, 2003

Summary: To survive its fiery descent through a planet's atmosphere,
hitching a ride inside a protective carbon bubble may have improved the
survival chances of organic life if it came from interplanetary fragments.

A Meteor's Protective Bubbles?

Adapted from NASA Johnson release
(http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/news/releases/2002/J02-122.html)

In a study published in the International Journal of Astrobiology,
researchers state that a meteorite that fell to Earth over northwestern
Canada in January 2000 contains a previously unseen type of primitive
organic material that was formed long before our own solar system came into
being.

The Tagish Lake meteorite fell to Earth over the Yukon Territory of Canada
on Jan. 18, 2000. Parts of the meteorite were collected and kept frozen in
an unprecedented level of cleanliness to ensure that it was not contaminated
by any terrestrial sources.

Through extensive testing using, in part, electron microscopes, the
researchers found numerous hollow, bubble-like hydrocarbon globules in the
meteorite. They believe these organic globules, the first found in any
natural sample, are very similar to those produced in laboratory simulations
designed to recreate the initial conditions present when life first formed
in the universe.

While not of biological origin themselves, these globules would have served
very well to protect and nurture primitive organisms on Earth, said Dr.
Michael Zolensky, an author of the paper and a researcher in the Office of
Astromaterials Research and Exploration Science at NASA's Johnson Space
Center in Houston. They would have been ready-made homes for early life
forms.

The type of meteorite in which the globules were found is also so fragile
that it generally breaks up into dust during its entry into Earth's
atmosphere, scattering its organic contents across a wide swath. The
delicate charcoal found on Tagish Lake indeed is a rare example of a meteor
class called carbonaceous chondrites: meteorites which make up about three
per cent of the space rocks recovered. The possible chemical class of this
fall constitutes less than 0.1 per cent of all meteorites recovered to date,
and represents the most primordial samples known from the early solar
system. The largest piece recovered weighed about a half a pound (200 grams)
and a total of 2 pounds have been recovered (~1 kg).

If, as we suspect, this type of meteorite has been falling onto Earth
throughout its entire history, then the Earth was provided with these
hydrocarbon globules at the same time life was first forming here, Zolensky
said. We were exceedingly fortunate that this particular meteorite was so
large that some pieces survived to be recovered on the ground.

What we have now shown is that that these globules were in fact made
naturally in the early solar system, and have been falling to Earth
throughout time, Zolensky said.

The researchers believe the Tagish Lake meteorite came from the outer
asteroid belt, toward Jupiter, and that similar organic materials may have
been falling onto the moons of Jupiter, including Europa.

Last year, researchers at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field,
Calif., announced that they had made basically identical hydrocarbon
globules in the laboratory from materials present in the early solar system
and interstellar space. Scientists believe the molecules needed to make a
cell's membrane, and thus for the origin of life, are all over space. That
discovery implied that life could be everywhere in the universe, said Dr.
Louis Allamandola, the NASA Ames team's leader.

Using simple, everyday chemicals, researchers from Ames' Astrochemistry
Laboratory and the Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry at the
University of California, Santa Cruz, had created, for the first time,
proto-cells. These are the primitive cells that mimic the membranous
structures found in all life forms. This process happens all the time in
the dense molecular clouds of space, Allamandola said.

What's Next

It is interesting to speculate about the presence of these organics in the
ocean we believe may be present under the ice cap of this moon, Zolensky
said.

Jupiter's moon Europa is thought to be one of the most likely abodes for
microscopic life in our solar system. The ice-covered world may have liquid
water, energy, and organic compounds - all three of the ingredients
necessary for life to survive.

Streaks of reddish-brown color highlight cracks in Europa's outer layer of
ice. Some scientists have speculated that microorganisms suspended in
Europa's ice may be the cause of these colorations.

Europa's average surface temperature is minus 162 C (minus 260 F), and it
has an almost non-existent atmospheric pressure of 10-7 of a bar. (In
comparison, the average atmospheric pressure at the surface of the Earth 

[meteorite-list] RE: Tatahouine Pronunciation

2003-03-03 Thread Matson, Robert
I see that there are a number of different takes on the
possible pronunciations.  The vowel sounds are the most
uncertain.  In my opinion, the only possibilities for the
two TAs are:

ta:  rhymes with bat, cat, that
tah: rhymes with la, ma, pa
tuh: rhymes with duh, the

The choice of the pronunciation for the second TA is going
to be more difficult because it is not accented and difficult
to hear.

Bernd wrote:

 As for the hou syllable, see Anne's double OO.
 A comparable sound would be the double-O in loot
 or in hoot, or soot, etc.

Hoot and loot rhyme, but soot (which rhymes with foot)
does not.  I'm not clear on whether Tatahouine has three
syllables or four -- four seems awkward.  Is it something
like:

tah-tuh-hween?

As for syllable emphasis, it seems to be similar to Halloween.

--Rob

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[meteorite-list] Thuathe stones for sale! Webpage up!

2003-03-03 Thread Michael Farmer



Hello everyone, as Eric and I promised from South 
Africa last week, it is now noon in Tucson and our Thuathe pages are up and 
running. go to my website and see photos and story of our trip, pieces for 
sale, and be sure to see my collection page where my private pieces are listed. 

I fully expect to be sold out by tonight, so get 
them now or forget them. 
Mike Farmer
http://www.meteoritehunter.com


Re: [meteorite-list] Rock-Picking Farmer Finds $1 Million Meteorite In

2003-03-03 Thread Randy Mils

Too late. It already is that way.
All these clowns think they either found a Lunar or Martian Meteorite because that is what gets all the publicity. 
Don't try telling them otherwise or you will get your head handed to you and be accused of trying to steal their ticket to the big easy.
Randy.

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:19:45 -0500 
 
Good news and bad news: When this story gets out, a lot of farmers may 
start looking more carefully, but anything they find will surely be 
"worth" a million dollars. 
 

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[meteorite-list] Space Weather News - March 3, 2003

2003-03-03 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.spaceweather.com/

Space Weather News
March 3, 2003

METEOR UPDATE: A rare Antarctic meteor shower due on March 1st was
unimpressive. We had all eyes out last night for the shower but saw only
one meteor, reports astronaut Don Pettit from the International Space
Station. Ham radio operators in Australia listened for 144 MHz echoes from
the shower; they heard nothing out of the ordinary. In fact, signals were
poorer than usual, notes Rob Quick of Canberra. Stay tuned for further
updates.

ASTEROID FLYBY: A small 25-meter wide asteroid, 2003 DW10, is flying past
Earth today only 1.4 times farther from our planet than the Moon. John
Rogers of the Camarillo Observatory captured this image of the 17th
magnitude space rock on March 2nd. Rogers tracked the asteroid, not the
stars, so 2003 DW10 appears as a pointlike speck in the middle of the image.
The surrounding stars are streaked. 

BIG SUNSPOT: The face of the Sun has been mostly blank for some weeks, but
now a large sunspot has appeared. Active region 296 stretches eight
Earth-diameters from end to end. It's easy to see, but never stare directly
at the Sun. Use safe solar observing techniques instead. 

COMET NEAT: Last month Comet NEAT swung perilously close to the Sun--a
lovely event recorded by SOHO coronagraphs. Contrary to some internet
rumors, the comet's orbit was not altered by its apparent encounter with a
coronal mass ejection. Comet NEAT is not on a collision course with Earth.
The comet is now emerging from the Sun's glare into southern-hemisphere
skies. Ian Cooper of New Zealand took this picture of Comet NEAT at sunset
on Feb. 28th. The tail was 5 degrees long in 10 x 50 binoculars, says Ian.
The coma was about as bright as a 2nd or 3rd magnitude star. Photo
details: 50mm lens @ f/1.4, 12 sec. exp. on Fuji XTRA 400 film. Glen Oroua,
Manawatu, North Island, New Zealand. 


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[meteorite-list] ad: Thuathe web page is on line

2003-03-03 Thread Starbits
I have just added the web page with the photos of pieces of the Thuathe fall.  They 
can be viewed at the following url.

http://www.star-bits.com/thuathe.htm

Lots of beautiful stones available.

Eric Olson
http://www.star-bits.coom


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Re:[meteorite-list] CNN Poll: 70% Want To Know About Asteroid Impact

2003-03-03 Thread Space Rocks
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http://www.cnn.com//POLL/results/366631.html  

CNN Poll
February 28, 2003
 
If astronomers detect a planet-killing asteroid right before it hits Earth, do you
want to know? 

I think the answer depends on how soon the asteroid will hit. If its only a few minutes
you would only have

Oh NO! duck okfo76ir5hjfg.[phjdlpn.n.thprhp[-  k 0 08u 809  ..

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[meteorite-list] Specimens sought

2003-03-03 Thread Michael Masse



Hi 'List'

Seeking macros or slices of 2 breccias:
L3-4, L/LL3-6

Seeking macros, micros, or fragments
L7
transitionals
H/L5, H/L6, LL4/5, LL5/6
breccias
L4-5, L/LL5-6, LL4-5

Thanks for any help,
Michael
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rock-Picking Farmer Finds $1 Million Meteorite In

2003-03-03 Thread Martin Horejsi
Howdy again,

I just heard from the owners of the stone that they are going to be on the
Today Show and CNN tomorrow.

Someone please tell me about it since I do not have a television.

Cheers,

Martin




On 3/3/03 1:06 PM, Martin Horejsi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ron kindly suggested:
 
 I'm curious as to what type it is as well.  Both articles didn't say.
 It looks to be either an iron or stony-iron. Because it is being
 touted as a one-of-a-kind meteorites. I would guess it is in
 the stony-iron class.
 
 
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 The rock in the article is the Milton Pallasite that I wrote about in
 Meteorite Magazine in the May 2002 issue.
 
 Milton is a unique pallasite that appears to be somewhere between the main
 group pallasites and the Eagle Station pallasites but not directly on the
 line between them. There are also some interesting chemical similarities
 between Milton and carbonaceous chondrites.
 
 Milton is likely material from an asteroid as yet unrepresented in our
 collections.
 
 Given the price of Eagle Station, the $500/g figure is not quite so
 surprising.
 
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[meteorite-list] Re: Rock-Picking Farmer Finds $1 Million Meteorite In Missouri

2003-03-03 Thread Ron Baalke
 
 The rock in the article is the Milton Pallasite that I wrote about in
 Meteorite Magazine in the May 2002 issue.

Thanks for the info!  There is a paper being presented on this meteorite at
the upcoming LPSC:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2003/pdf/1683.pdf

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rock-Picking Farmer Finds $1 MillionMeteorite In

2003-03-03 Thread Michael L Blood
Ya,
But this dude will want this micromount price per gram for the
WHOLE STONE. This is like taking a kilo of pot and saying you busted a
dealer with a million dollars of dope, because, if you sell it by the
joint.
So, of course, no one will ever consider paying retail for the whole
mass.
This head set has permeated the country - interesting in light of
the DOWNTURN of the market since flooding of NWA material. A lot
of farmers are going to be taking a lot of material to the grave with
them.
Thanks for the info, Martin.
Best wishes, Michael


on 3/3/03 12:06 PM, Martin Horejsi at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ron kindly suggested:
 
 I'm curious as to what type it is as well.  Both articles didn't say.
 It looks to be either an iron or stony-iron. Because it is being
 touted as a one-of-a-kind meteorites. I would guess it is in
 the stony-iron class.
 
 
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 The rock in the article is the Milton Pallasite that I wrote about in
 Meteorite Magazine in the May 2002 issue.
 
 Milton is a unique pallasite that appears to be somewhere between the main
 group pallasites and the Eagle Station pallasites but not directly on the
 line between them. There are also some interesting chemical similarities
 between Milton and carbonaceous chondrites.
 
 Milton is likely material from an asteroid as yet unrepresented in our
 collections.
 
 Given the price of Eagle Station, the $500/g figure is not quite so
 surprising.
 
 Cheers,
 
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Cane

2003-03-03 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi Pierre,
Like most tools, one uses it with some degree of discretion. I
learned about it from Steve Schoner, one of the greatest hunters
ever. I first used one with him in an L/LL strewn field and he, at least,
did so with excellent results. So, at least some people consider it
to be of some use. 
Of course, I do not suggest attempting to use a screw driver to
hammer nails, but that does not make a screw driver useless.
Michael

on 3/3/03 7:45 AM, rochette at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Besides if you collect only
 rocks sticking to your cane you will get slags but leave on the ground
 almost all rarities: rumurutites, angrites, eucrites,diogenite, howardite,
 martian, lunars, even some LL and CV. If you try to increase magnet power
 to compensate, you may collect terrestrial basalts. So what's the use of
 it, unless you know you are in a L or H strewfield???
 
 
 Pierre

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rock-Picking Farmer Finds $1 MillionMeteorite In

2003-03-03 Thread Matt Morgan
I love the analogy Michael...and we do often talk in grams and kilos.
LOL!!!
matt m


Michael L Blood wrote:

 Ya,
 But this dude will want this micromount price per gram for the
 WHOLE STONE. This is like taking a kilo of pot and saying you busted a
 dealer with a million dollars of dope, because, if you sell it by the
 joint.
 So, of course, no one will ever consider paying retail for the whole
 mass.
 This head set has permeated the country - interesting in light of
 the DOWNTURN of the market since flooding of NWA material. A lot
 of farmers are going to be taking a lot of material to the grave with
 them.
 Thanks for the info, Martin.
 Best wishes, Michael

 on 3/3/03 12:06 PM, Martin Horejsi at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Ron kindly suggested:
 
  I'm curious as to what type it is as well.  Both articles didn't say.
  It looks to be either an iron or stony-iron. Because it is being
  touted as a one-of-a-kind meteorites. I would guess it is in
  the stony-iron class.
 
 
 
  Hi Folks,
 
  The rock in the article is the Milton Pallasite that I wrote about in
  Meteorite Magazine in the May 2002 issue.
 
  Milton is a unique pallasite that appears to be somewhere between the main
  group pallasites and the Eagle Station pallasites but not directly on the
  line between them. There are also some interesting chemical similarities
  between Milton and carbonaceous chondrites.
 
  Milton is likely material from an asteroid as yet unrepresented in our
  collections.
 
  Given the price of Eagle Station, the $500/g figure is not quite so
  surprising.
 
  Cheers,
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Rock-Picking Farmer Finds $1 Million Meteorite In Missouri

2003-03-03 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Ron,

Thanks for your non-stop work in searching for recent articles.  While I do
not think the farmer will ever get his million dollars it would be
interesting to see it sell in an auction.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rock-Picking Farmer Finds $1 MillionMeteorite In

2003-03-03 Thread CMcdon0923
 This is like taking a kilo of pot and saying you busted a
dealer with a million dollars of dope, because, if you sell it by the joint.

DUDE    Cool analogy 

Sorryflashback to my mis-spent youth.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Rock-Picking Farmer Finds $1 MillionMeteorite In

2003-03-03 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
 I love the analogy Michael...and we do often talk in grams and kilos.

I always fell like we are all dealing drugs! You call your favorite dealer
and ask for a kilo of his best rock!  : ) This meteorite the farmer found
reminds me of that million dollar iron on ebay a while back that belonged to
the presidential hopeful.
Thanks, Tom
The proudest member of the IMCA 6168



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In


 I love the analogy Michael...and we do often talk in grams and kilos.
 LOL!!!
 matt m


 Michael L Blood wrote:

  Ya,
  But this dude will want this micromount price per gram for the
  WHOLE STONE. This is like taking a kilo of pot and saying you busted a
  dealer with a million dollars of dope, because, if you sell it by the
  joint.
  So, of course, no one will ever consider paying retail for the
whole
  mass.
  This head set has permeated the country - interesting in light
of
  the DOWNTURN of the market since flooding of NWA material. A lot
  of farmers are going to be taking a lot of material to the grave with
  them.
  Thanks for the info, Martin.
  Best wishes, Michael
 
  on 3/3/03 12:06 PM, Martin Horejsi at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Ron kindly suggested:
  
   I'm curious as to what type it is as well.  Both articles didn't say.
   It looks to be either an iron or stony-iron. Because it is being
   touted as a one-of-a-kind meteorites. I would guess it is in
   the stony-iron class.
  
  
  
   Hi Folks,
  
   The rock in the article is the Milton Pallasite that I wrote about in
   Meteorite Magazine in the May 2002 issue.
  
   Milton is a unique pallasite that appears to be somewhere between the
main
   group pallasites and the Eagle Station pallasites but not directly on
the
   line between them. There are also some interesting chemical
similarities
   between Milton and carbonaceous chondrites.
  
   Milton is likely material from an asteroid as yet unrepresented in our
   collections.
  
   Given the price of Eagle Station, the $500/g figure is not quite so
   surprising.
  
   Cheers,
  
   Martin
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[meteorite-list] AD: Tucson Show 2003 video

2003-03-03 Thread BobHolmes
Hello All,

As many of you may or may not know, John Gwilliam and I have been
working on a video about some of the meteorite  people and events at the
recent show in Tucson.

John has completed the final editing and  Copies will be available for
sale this Friday, March 7. A webpage will be up on Thursday or Friday,
and I will post a link when it is. I can, however, give you a little
information now. The tape is in VHS format with a running time of 41
minutes. The cost is $24 plus shipping ($6 inside US)

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[meteorite-list] $1 Million Meteorite (Humor Alert)

2003-03-03 Thread Bernd Pauli HD
Tom aka James Knudson wrote:

 I always feel like we are all dealing drugs!
 You call your favorite dealer and ask for a
 kilo of his best rock!  : )

Oh yeah, and it all started ... it all started ...
well, if interested in how it all started, please
open your METEORITE magazine, Feb 2003,
Vol. 9, Nr.1, on page 35. There you'll find
the details of this drama
:-) :-( :-) :-( ;-)

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[meteorite-list] Thuathe

2003-03-03 Thread Michael Farmer



Hi again, I am almost sold out of this meteorite. 
There are a couple pieces still listed, but other than that I only have a few 
fragments left. Everyone should check out Eric Olson's specimens. 
Mike Farmer
By the way, what does everyone think about my story 
and photos? 
Have'nt seen them? Click below. 
http://www.meteoritehunter.com/thuathehunt.htm



[meteorite-list] Thuathe

2003-03-03 Thread Bernd Pauli HD
Michael Farmer wrote:

 Hi again, I am almost sold out of this meteorite. There are a couple
 pieces still listed, but other than that I only have a few fragments
 left. Everyone should check out Eric Olson's specimens.Mike FarmerBy
 the way, what does everyone think about my story and photos? Haven't
 seen them? Click below.

http://www.meteoritehunter.com/thuathehunt.htm

If this link does not work, try this one:

http://www.meteoriteguy.com/index

 what does everyone think about my story and photos?

What photos? What story? Well, I think for most of us the new
meteorites were more important than the story behind them ;-)

OK. Let's be serious. The photo of that awesome main mass is
breathtaking !!! A beautifully, sculptured nose cone that knocks
your socks off !!!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Thuathe

2003-03-03 Thread Matt Morgan



Mike, Eric and the Hupes...
Bottoms up to a job well done!
Looking forward to getting my stones from Mike!
Matt Morgan
Michael Farmer wrote:

Hi
again, I am almost sold out of this meteorite. There are a couple pieces
still listed, but other than that I only have a few fragments left. Everyone
should check out Eric Olson's specimens.Mike
FarmerBy the way, what does
everyone think about my story and photos?Have'nt
seen them? Click below.http://www.meteoritehunter.com/thuathehunt.htm

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[meteorite-list] Will not be able to respond to emails

2003-03-03 Thread Adam Hupe



Dear List Members,

I have been checking my emails only a couple of 
times a week because I have had to temporarily relocate to another city because 
of a family emergency. If any of you have been trying to get through to me 
or my brother Greg, I am sorry that we have not been able to respond. I 
only have a limited amount of time to address each email and I am falling 
behind. I may have communications set up more directly later in the week 
at the new location. My brother was due back on the 12th from Africa but I 
am trying to recall him sooner because this emergency affects him as 
well.

I hope anybody who has been trying to get a hold of 
us understands and I apologize if this has caused any inconvenience. I ran 
out of time trying to email everybody back and thought the list would be a good 
place to get the word out.

Thank you everybody for your patience.

All the best,

Adam




Re: [meteorite-list] Thuathe

2003-03-03 Thread magellon



Mike,
The pictures are great. The country and people are beautiful.
The scary thing is you could have died! The adventure ends with
everyone happy. (The stones are definitely fusion crusted!)
Question: How did you know this was a friendly African country. (Several
are not)
How did you overcome the language barrier?
Would you do it again knowing the outcome beforehand?
Thank you and Eric for sharing your adventure.
Best,
Ken Newton

Michael Farmer wrote:

Hi
again, I am almost sold out of this meteorite. There are a couple pieces
still listed, but other than that I only have a few fragments left. Everyone
should check out Eric Olson's specimens.Mike
FarmerBy the way, what does
everyone think about my story and photos?Have'nt
seen them? Click below.http://www.meteoritehunter.com/thuathehunt.htm





Re: [meteorite-list] Thuathe

2003-03-03 Thread fcressy
Hi Mike and all,

You sure these stones weren't salted by nomads sneaking in from the
north?NOT!

Seriously, great write-up and photos; really adds to the story. Appreciate
you taking the time to add that part to your site for all of us to enjoy. Oh
yeah, great looking meteorites too. But can't believe you'd keep the best
ones for your collection ;-)

You and Eric are to be commended for a job well done.
Looking forward on seeing my piece in person.

Regards,
Frank

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Thuathe


Hi again, I am almost sold out of this meteorite. There are a couple pieces
still listed, but other than that I only have a few fragments left. Everyone
should check out Eric Olson's specimens.
Mike Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Expeditions n Magnetic Destruction

2003-03-03 Thread Rafael B. Torres
Thats kinda a hard view point, cuz it test us between 2 things. Destroying a 
meteorite for science or obtaining more items to our collections. Of course 
I dont want to harm any meteorites for science, even though they are only 
for collection. But one collector never knows when will the meteorites will 
be used for science...and more if its a unique find... is this a matter of 
ethics?...Is there another way for not destroying this record?



   =0)
Rafael B. Torres
Space Collection 2001
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:15:38 +0100
Hello, thats a good way of thinking. I want the meteorite cane just for L 
or
H meteorites stick to the big magnet. But I also will look with the eye 
for
other types of meteorites. Unfortunately I dont have any individual
Achondrite, Lunar, martian, etc...I just have slices of them, so I dont 
know
how they look like in situ, but I have photos. What kind of damage can a
magnet do to a meteorite?...I thought that it might break it, but what I
plan is not stick the meteorite directly to the ground, but above it. I 
also
have smaller magnets for checking the sample in my hands, thus not 
harming
the meteorite. Is that what you are telling me?

Well the arm is not mechanical just that the magnetic memory
(representative of magnetic fields recorded on the parent body) is erased.
So for the usual collector is does nothing, but for scientists studying
this magnetic record, the stone becomes useless.

PS: to be positive some rarities stick to the magnet also: E, Acapulcoites,
Winowaites, Ureilite, majority of carbons, some aubrites...
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[meteorite-list] Thuathe questions

2003-03-03 Thread Michael Farmer



Here are answers to some of the questions posed. 

The people there speak an interesting form of 
English, and Sotho. Many spoke English but it was hard to understand. They were 
all very nice though. 
The reason the Hupe's stones looked more rusted is 
this, 
the scientist, David Ambrose told Eric and I that 
when they first got the stones, they were all dirty, and they soaked many of 
them in water to try and remove the dirt. We all know that water and meteorites 
don't mix, so this of course caused them to badly rust. Once they did that, they 
no longer washed them, so only the first batch was so affected. He told me that 
those stones had been sold and since the Hupe's got the first stones, I must 
assume that those were the ones that the university tried to clean. 

 There were other questions, but 
I seem to be having a jet-lag induced memory loss, so please propose any 
questions again ASAP so that I can answer them here. 
It sure is a beautiful place. 
Perfect for a meteorite hunt, although I am still 
waiting for a fall in Tahiti! 
Mike Farmer
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[meteorite-list] Re: Was Rock -Picking ...Kilos and grams and The DEAI

2003-03-03 Thread E.L. Jones
Matt Morgan wrote:

I love the analogy Michael...and we do often talk in grams and kilos.  LOL!!!  matt m
 

Yeah Right!   With the new Email searching programs the FBI/DEA uses, 
what do you bet  we'll have this list infiltrated by the DEA?
Kilos, grams, baggies, scales, midnight flights to Africa...yeppers we 
have most of the key search wordslol I am sure that some of the 
meteorite names are also nicknames for hash or black tar heroin 
locales...  Big Brother is coming

Actually I am reminded of an incident known by very few list members 
untill now...

I was closing a deal with a certain Long Island  dealer, (who's  name 
will remain secret, but his initials are Geoff C).  He and I were this 
particular evening in the museum parking lot in Paterson NJ.   He was 
weighing out a rock (a crusted Allende) with a scale-- in plain view 
on the top of his car.   Before long we noticed the Police Car across 
the parking lot eyeing us...  We got back in the car and almost choked 
trying to keep the laughter suppressed.  But I am sure his license 
plate is listed in there DEALER WATCH file with the DEAlol

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Was Rock -Picking ...Kilos and grams and The DEAI

2003-03-03 Thread Michael Farmer
I have a good one to post with that. During the Portales fall, Devin
Schrader and I met  two guys at a Luvs Truck Stop in Demming New Mexico. I
bought several Porales specimens from them and paid them $5000.00 cash,
counting it out in the resteraunt table. After I was done I  noticed about
30 people staring at us. A couple of rocks on the table and thousands of
dollars. Ill bet they talked a little that night wondering what was going on
there.
Mike Farmer
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DEAI


 Matt Morgan wrote:

 I love the analogy Michael...and we do often talk in grams and kilos.
LOL!!!  matt m
 
 
 Yeah Right!   With the new Email searching programs the FBI/DEA uses,
  what do you bet  we'll have this list infiltrated by the DEA?
 Kilos, grams, baggies, scales, midnight flights to Africa...yeppers we
 have most of the key search wordslol I am sure that some of the
 meteorite names are also nicknames for hash or black tar heroin
 locales...  Big Brother is coming

  Actually I am reminded of an incident known by very few list members
 untill now...

 I was closing a deal with a certain Long Island  dealer, (who's  name
 will remain secret, but his initials are Geoff C).  He and I were this
 particular evening in the museum parking lot in Paterson NJ.   He was
 weighing out a rock (a crusted Allende) with a scale-- in plain view
 on the top of his car.   Before long we noticed the Police Car across
 the parking lot eyeing us...  We got back in the car and almost choked
 trying to keep the laughter suppressed.  But I am sure his license
 plate is listed in there DEALER WATCH file with the DEAlol

 Elton


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[meteorite-list] NP Article, 06-1886 An Aerolite Liar

2003-03-03 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: The Landmark
City: Statesville, North Carolina
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1886
Page: 1


An Aerolite Liar

Correspondence of The Landmark.

 This statement appeared in a Washington, Pa., dispatch of May 27:
After months of search Professor Jonathan Emerick, of William and Mary
College, has discovered the aerolite which fell in Washington county
September 14, 1885.  It was found imbedded deep in soil, on Frederick
Miller's farm, two miles north of Claysville.  Professor Emerick says it is
the largest aeroliste on record and weighs fully 200 tons.  Its compostion
is chromium, nickel, alumnium, copper, magnesium and tin.  A reply was
received from Postermaster Scott stating that the report is a canard, no
such aerolite having fallen.
 There seems to be some person in the associated press who makes it his
business or pastime to invent aerolite discoveries, for it has been kept up
for a number of years.  The first instance I can now recall was the alleged
fall near Fort Worth, Texas, of an aerolite a mile in width.  When I read
the press dispatch I telegraphed to Fort Worth and ascertained that the
statement was a lie out of the whole cloth.  Then, in 1878, there came a
dispath from some place in Arkansas, stating that an aerolite had fallen
there and killed a farmer in his bed.  I investigated that statement and
found it was false.  Again, in 1882, it was reported in a press dispatch
that an aerolite as large as a hogshead had fallen in Georgia.  I made
diligent inquiries only to learn there was no truth in the report.  Two
months ago a press dispath from Washington stated that an aerolite had
fallen in that city.  It only proved that the liar had got around in the
direction.  there canards have cost some expense for correspondence and
telegraphy, and the friend should be killed.

W.E.H.




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[meteorite-list] NP Article, 05-1883 Alfianello Fall Article?

2003-03-03 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Title: The Stevens Point Journal
City: Stevens Point, Wi
Date: Saturday, May 26, 1883
Page: 2

An Aerolite
 The Rome correspondent of the St. James Gazette says that on the 16th
of February some peasants working in a field near Breseia were startled by
hearing a loud report like thunder.  Looking up they saw the clouds torn
open, and a large body followed by a train of bluish smoke hurtling through
the air over their heads with the noise of an express train.  The aerolite
buried itself in an adjoining field, the fall causing a shock like that of
earthquake.  It was felt ten kilometres away, while the report was heard at
Verona and Piacenze, many miles distant.  When they had recovered from their
fright the peasants hurried to the spot, and found a clean hole about three
feet deep running in an oblique direction from north-northeast; and on
digging down they came to a solid block, in the form of a truncated cone,
weighing from four to five hundred pounds.  The surface, which was still
hot, and emitted a sulphurous smell, was covered with a greenish black
crust, full of small holes, such as would be made by finger-tips in a soft
paste, which may have given rise to the report that one of the fragments
bore the impress of a hand.  The proprieter of the clover-field in which the
aerolite fell flew into a rage at his crops being trampled down by people
coming to see it, and broke it up, when it was carried away piece meal.  So
he gained nothing but damage to his fields, while those who picked up the
pieces found a ready sale for them, one man getting as much a seven thousand
franes for a lump that weighed twenty-five pounds. On a subsequent search by
Prof. Bombicci, of Bologha, several pieces of scorize, apparently detached
from the aerolite in its flight, were found in the neighborhood.

(Mark note: Possibly the Alfianello meteorite fall, an L6 that fell February
16th, 1883 at 1500hrs. 228kg total weight found)

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[meteorite-list] NP Article, 11-1867 Lecture on Meteors and Meteorites

2003-03-03 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: The Edinburgh Evening Courant
City: Edinburgh, Midlothian (United Kingdom)
Date: Wednesday, November 13, 1867
Page: 4

 MR A. S. HERSCHEL ON METEORS. - Last night, Mr A. S. Herschel delivered
the first of two lectures in commection with the Philosophical Institution
on Meteors and Meteorites.  The lecture was delivered in Queen Street
Hall, which was crowedin every corner.  Mr. Herschel, in the introductory
part of his lecture, narrated instances in which pieces of stone and iron
had fallen upon the earth from the air.  The fall of pieces of iron was very
rare; that of stones was much more frequent.  From an investigation made by
Howard in the beginning of this century, these stones were found to be
characterized by the pressence of nickel.  They had the appearence of grey
granite, but were distinguished from all the terrestrial rocks by having
sprinklings of iron filings through their whole substance, and at the same
time were glazed all over as if they had come from a furnace.  The records
appearing in the newspapers indicated that on an average one aerolite fell
per week, but it was supposed that if all that fell week picked up, one a
day would be found to be deposited on the earth. With the fall of an
aerolite a large ball of fire passed through the sky, and gave a violent
report, the sound resembling that of an earthquake which was heard for fifty
miles or more around.  Persons residing within that distance from where it
was rumoured that a stone had fallen could know whether or not the report
was a hoax, as they must have heard of it long before it got into the
newspapers.  Some aerolites which fell in France about three years ago very
much resembled granite which appeared to have been torn from rocks.  Mr
Herschel then proceeded to point out on diagrams the appearence of some of
the largest meteors which had been witnessed in recent times.  One of these
consisted of two chief heads, followed separateky and independently by small
companion meteors, each drawing a train behind its head.  These they might
suppose to be showers of stones all grouped together, which never reached
the earth al all.  The height in the air of these fire-balls had generally
been found to be about sixty miles.  Their speed was also very great.  They
seldom remained visible beyond a few seconds, and in that time they might
cross one side of Scotland to the other.  He then referred at some length to
the views which had been adopted in regard to these meteors.  Aristotlo was
of opinion that they were bodies of combustible vapour in the air, which
caught fire at one end, and burned rapidly the whole way to the other.  That
opinion was covived by Halley.  Another opinion was that they were caused by
electricity - a flash of lightning in the highest region of the atmosphere.
Chladoi was of opinion that the heat developed by the rapidity with which
the bodies passed through the air acting on the substance of the meteoric
stones, gave to them the extremely luminous flash.  As to the causes which
produced these large stones, they could as yet form no opinion whatever.
Shooting stars were next noticed by Mr. Herschel.  These,  he stated,
partook very much of the character of fireballs or aerolites; and after
noticing the great shower witnessed by Humboldt in 1799 in America, and a
similar shower thirty-four years afterwards, he stated that the 14th of the
present month was a day when the same phenomenon should be looked for.  We
were ont eh even of having something which had kept people in expectation
for more than the third part of the century, and which for another third of
a century was not likely again to be witnessed.  Last year a shower was seen
to take place on the morning of the 14th November, and that occureed over
Europe, Asia and Africa, where a shower was witnessed in 1839.  This year
they might expect it to occur in America, and the reason why he supposed
these stars would tomorrow morning, just before daylight, be visible was
that they were seen by fishermen at Hull in 1833.  Neither the fishermen nor
anybody else had mentioned having seen them at midnight on the night before,
therefore he did not hold out any hope that they would be seen this
(Wednesday) night.  Mr. Herschel concluded, amid loud applause, by stating
his intention to produce by Friday night, when he will give his next
lecture, as near a copy of the shower as he could.  The lecture was
brilliantly illustrated by diagrams and experiments, and was well received
by the audience.

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Re: [meteorite-list] $1 Million Meteorite (Humor Alert)

2003-03-03 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 3/3/2003 3:12:15 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Tom aka James Knudson wrote:

 I always feel like we are all dealing drugs!
 You call your favorite dealer and ask for a
 kilo of his best rock! : )

Oh yeah, and it all started ... it all started ...
well, if interested in how it all started, please
open your METEORITE magazine, Feb 2003,
Vol. 9, Nr.1, on page 35. There you'll find
the details of this drama
:-) :-( :-) :-( ;-)



Very funny Bernd!

I can just picture all those people all over the planet, mostly men, scrambling, yelling to their spouse: "Where did you put the last copy of METEORITE?"

I found mine and I see what you mean. 
Yes, very funny. Dorothy Norton obviously knows how it all got started. :-)

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Re: [meteorite-list] $1 Million Meteorite (Humor Alert)

2003-03-03 Thread Tom aka James Knudson



Bernrd wrote;
Oh yeah, and it all started ... it all started well, if 
interested in how it all started, pleaseopen your METEORITE magazine, Feb 
2003,Vol. 9, Nr.1, on page 35. There you'll findthe details of this 
drama
I do not have any meteorite magazines. Where can I get 
one?

Thanks, TomThe proudest member of the IMCA 
6168

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  Tom aka James Knudson wrote: I always feel like we 
are all dealing drugs! You call your favorite dealer and ask for 
a kilo of his best rock! : )Oh yeah, and it all 
started ... it all started ...well, if interested in how it all started, 
pleaseopen your METEORITE magazine, Feb 2003,Vol. 9, Nr.1, on page 
35. There you'll findthe details of this drama:-) 
:-( :-) :-( 
  ;-)Very funny Bernd!I can just picture 
  all those people all over the planet, mostly men, scrambling, yelling to their 
  spouse: "Where did you put the last copy of METEORITE?"I found 
  mine and I see what you mean. Yes, very funny. Dorothy 
  Norton obviously knows how it all got started.. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tatahouine - Pronounciation MOH Hardness?

2003-03-03 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 3/3/2003 12:31:24 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


It is by no accident that Luke Skywalker lives on Tatahouine. Lucas borrowed the name from that town because they shot the Tatahouine scenes near there. So, I would suspect that the pronounciation in the movie would be very close to the actual pronounciation if not exact.


You are quite right Mark. That is where a lot of the exterior scenes of the Star Wars movies were filmed. 
It is really a small dusty market town, but it has a very nice hotel with a swimming pool! If you want to see a picture I took there a few years ago, go to:
 http://www.impactika.com/tatahouineTUNS.jpg 
 
As for the pronounciation, I think I will go with the simplest:
 TA TA WEEN , all syllables pretty much equal.

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